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Re: Evolutionary Theory And Creation Theory by gwiz32(m): 3:16pm On Feb 12, 2007
KAG:

Okay, I'll humour you. What are some of the many gaps in the theory of evolution, and how are they explained by the "creation theory"? In fact, why not start off telling us about the "creation theory", and explain the evidence for it.

If present the verification to refute both social and neo-Darwinism convincingly, any scientist merited his critique would render it awake. The renown and status they would obtain would be unparalleled amongst todays scientists. His surname would be cited in the same breath as Newton and Einstein. There’s no immense conspiracy in the midst of the scholastic society to brush off creationism beneath the rug. Its just creationism has ZERO pragmatic confirmation to back it up.

And to restate evolution does not invalidate the existence of a God or Jesus’s divinity. It controverts the unwise concepts of youthful earth creationists.
Re: Evolutionary Theory And Creation Theory by KAG: 2:36pm On Feb 16, 2007
gwiz_32:

If present the verification to refute both social and neo-Darwinism convincingly, any scientist merited his critique would render it awake. The renown and status they would obtain would be unparalleled amongst todays scientists. His surname would be cited in the same breath as Newton and Einstein. There’s no immense conspiracy in the midst of the scholastic society to brush off creationism beneath the rug. Its just creationism has ZERO pragmatic confirmation to back it up.

Word salad? That is, I'm not sure I understood most of what you wrote.

And to restate evolution does not invalidate the existence of a God or Jesus’s divinity. It controverts the unwise concepts of youthful earth creationists.

I didn't say it did. It does raise questions, though.
Re: Evolutionary Theory And Creation Theory by noetic2: 8:04pm On Jul 22, 2009
creationism
Re: Evolutionary Theory And Creation Theory by Oosie(m): 3:41am On Dec 13, 2009
I don't believe in either theory. For they are just theory.

Darwin explains that evolution is a proses of thousands of years. He also claims that we evolved from fish.
I ask you this my friend, where is the half form fish/human skeletons? Or do you believe in mermaids?

I believe that a God created everything, but not the God in the bible.

Explenation

The Biblical God is an Annunaki and came from the planet called nibiru (Do research on it)

The annunakis came to planet earth to mine gold and created us humans(in their likeness or image) to do the menial jobs(in other words as their slave mine workers) because they hated doing menial jobs themselves.
So says the sumerian mythology on which the biblical story of creation in the book of genesis was based.
And the Sumerian mythology now seems to be very accurate because it mentioned thousands of years ago the planet NIBIRU that has been discovered and now called the PLANET X.

-So if you're still wondering who the biblical God is,wonder no more.He was an Annunaki from Nibiruleading the expedition for gold on earth
-If you're wondering why we were created,well as slave mineworkers for the annunakis.

Among The Anunnaqi THE ANUNNAQI ELOHEEM are those beings who were sent down to the Planet Qi (Earth), known to you as angels. The word Anunnaqi means "those who ANU sent from heaven to Earth." They are called NETERU, meaning "guardians" by the Egyptians. The Anunnaqi Eloheem are the "mighty ones." In Ashuric/Syraic (Arabic) the "mighty ones" are referred to as Jabbariyns. In Aramic (Hebrew) the "mighty ones" are referred to as Gibboreem.The very elite among the Anunnaqi are called the DINNEER, or the DINGIR, meaning "the righteous, or divine ones of the rocket ship," or ILU, meaning "the lofty ones" in Akkadian.The Anunnaqi, Eloheem, were acting as intermediaries between Earth and NIBIRU. They came to the planet Earth in order to find gold and other resources, to take back to their planet which is the 8th planet—Rizq, of the 19th galaxy called Illyuwn meaning "on high," which was on its way to destruction due to constant rays from the three suns UTU, APSU, and SHAMASH.

They were supposed to deliver the processed gold to spaceships that would be stored on the dark side of the moon called (Kingu or Shesqi), and Lahmu (Mars). This is where they constructed and loaded the 30 mile long cylinder shaped crafts. They used Lahmu (Mars) to assemble crafts to launch. The Anunnaqi arrived on the planet Qi by way of passenger crafts called shams. Their planet-sized ship Nibiru, which means "planet which crosses the skies, or planet of the crossing" travels at 1,008,600,272 feet per second, the speed of light. Nibiru is about 2½ to 3 times the size of the planet Earth. Nibiru has a crystal dome giving it the ability to break down light, it has solar panels that are the size of pin's heads or less than that and can generate millions and millions of watts of energy. Nibiru was set up for holographic inter dimensional transport and manned over 144,000 crew members headed by 24 elite beings called YAHWEHANS, 12 agreeable and 12 disagreeable. Nibiru is also called Merkabah meaning "the movable throne. These extra-terra-astral (extraterrestrial) are aboard the mother ship Nibiru.
The Anunnaqi's descriptions are dark-greenish brown skinned olive toned beings, with supreme 9 ether hair texture or what you'd call "kinky" or "kingly" hair. They look like humans with a few exceptions, such as their eyes. Some of the Anunnaqi's eyes are exceptionally larger than that of humans.

The Anunnaqi arrived on the planet Qi by way of passenger crafts called shams. Their planet-sized ship Nibiru, which means "planet which crosses the skies, or planet of the crossing" travels at 1,008,600,272 feet per second, the speed of light. Nibiru is about 2½ to 3 times the size of the planet Earth. Nibiru has a crystal dome giving it the ability to break down light, it has solar panels that are the size of pin's heads or less than that and can generate millions and millions of watts of energy. Nibiru is also called Merkabah by ours ancestors ancients Egyptians;meaning "the movable throne.

This is not an interpretation but Facts.
When the Americans invaded Iraq,they didn't go after the petrol first,They looted all the museums first,because they wanted to remove some evidence about Nibiru and the annunaqi.

The Annunaqi Eloheem are a race of beings created of pure green light and impure amber light before the foundation of this world. It was on the forth plane, the plane of “ultimate will, or the mental plane” that the division between the so-called good and so-called evil was established. As the supreme beings, the Annunaqi Eloheem skin was olive tone green to dark reddish brown. They are the race of supreme beings not spooks, ghosts, or apparitions. Annunaqi is just another name for Rizqiyians meaning “providers”. The Annunaqi are those beings that And, the most high sent down from heaven to earth in sets of 50’s while on the planet earth under an appointed being.  They receive the name Annunaqi when they came to earth.
The most high Elyown Elyown El illuminated the light of Murduk, son of Damkina and Enqi.  Murduk, who is also known Al Khidr, meaning “the green one”, who is the highest of all the Eloheem, Annunaqi, or angels.  The deity Murduk is equivalent to Amun Ra, (Atum Ra) in Egyptian sciences. He is of the green essence, with the splendor of beauty. That essence became divided into two parts. One was extremely pure and luminous, to the vision of the intellect, which came the noble and superior individuals, the soul of the prophets, Apostles, Al Mahdi, The Messiah, and the people of the right hand. Whereas the other appeared, impure and amber, and the second part was called “fire” from which came jaan, the father of the jinn, a race of evil Eloheem, Cherubeems.

The information presented here on the Anunaki is based of factual evidence and not theory (belief). The information about the annunaki  are found within your bible, with names changed to fit into the Torah and bible story (myths and tales). Who do you think the sons of God mentioned in Genesis 6: 2 are? These are your Annunaki. The story of Abramham (Ibrahim) and his first two wives was taken from the Annunaqi and is the same as that of Anu and his two wives. Anu (the Heavenly one) had two son Enqi and Enlil which later became Ismael and Israel (Jacob) of the Torah/ Bible. The Language of Aramic Hebrew as its roots in the Language if the Ancient Sumerians who were the desendants of the Annunaqi's. Believe is what the Jesus story is based on. The Annunaqi are dealing with facts.

Sumeria or Samaria is where Abraham the Father of Many nations is From.  It is mentioned with the Tigris Euphrates, the GIhon, Pishon, and Havalla. Why is it in your bible it says all throughout Gen 1, 2, and 3. God Found the Gold was good. Why is it that Hebrew is thousands of years older than English and the Hebrew language has not "J" in it but everyone still thinks Jesus is the correct name when it clearly refers to YAHhoshua as in Alleluyah, EliYah, Yerimiah, etc.  Why is that Jesus (Yahoshua) is refered to as being under Melchizedek in Hebrew 7 and that Melchizedek is refered to as the King of Salem and Salem is located in ancient Iraq.  Why is it that Moses entered into heavean and became immortal like Enoch, John the baptist, Elijah, Yahoshua, but his actual name was Thothmoses in Eqyptian. Even Daniel the Interpreter of Dreams is in Babylon and receives that kingdom from Nebuchadnezzer.  Why would The Most High do this if this was a pagan group of people?  Sumeria and Egypt were the two places where the holy people lived before all of the invasions.



Before replying to this msg by throwing your beliefs at me, go do research on it and you wil discover that all i've said has proof. What you have said is based on theory.

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Re: Evolutionary Theory And Creation Theory by Oosie(m): 4:03am On Dec 13, 2009
Just remember this my friends.

Someone did create space and everything in it.
That is our true God
Re: Evolutionary Theory And Creation Theory by helperzz(m): 10:17pm On Mar 05, 2010
@ atheist wait a minute! Why do you like throwing questions without willing to answer any questions yourself.But i won't take a questioneer approach with you.Proof that my God ALLAH exist are the stars,the sun,the planet the earth we live in. You might counter me that all this were created through the 'big bang' but i wouldn't disagree with you on the 'big bang' issue.If there ever existed a 'big bang' i put it to you that the energy for that big bang to occur could have come only from my supreme lord ALLAH except if you wish to accept the fact that something can come from nothing!!! ALLAHU AKBAR
Re: Evolutionary Theory And Creation Theory by easylogic(m): 12:01am On Mar 06, 2010
More of a Theistic evolutionist or progressive creationist.
Re: Evolutionary Theory And Creation Theory by Krayola(m): 3:17am On Mar 06, 2010
Evidence for Evolution (Shared Ancestry)

Just because scientists no longer debate the issue of shared ancestry, does not mean that it is not worth understanding why it is no longer debated. In other words, it is worthwhile to convince yourself (and your students) of the fact of shared ancestry by investigating the evidence.

Note that evidence for a historical idea like shared ancestry is historical in nature. Scientists use a method of induction, called the method of hypothesis, which is also called the inference to the best explanation. In this method, one assumes a hypothesis for the sake of investigation, and then asks what would follow if the hypothesis were true. In other words, one makes a prediction from the hypothesis. This prediction, which can be a prediction of a future event, but also can be a retrodiction of past phenomena, is then tested against the empirical world. This is done for several competing hypotheses, and the hypothesis that is best able to explain the observed pattern of data, gathered either through experimentation or through historical means (e.g. fossils, patterns among current species, etc.), is accepted as the best explanation.

Since students are used to thinking about hypothesis testing only in the form of an experiment, it is worth taking the time to instruct them on historical types of hypothesis testing, which includes examining patterns and the clues left behind1. Both hypotheses: 1) species are static and unchanging, and 2) species are related through common descent, make clear predictions about patterns of data. Examining the predictions of these two ideas against the available evidence has led scientists to infer that common descent is the correct hypothesis.

There are several basic lines of evidence for evolution. The reason that scientists view this evidence as so convincing (besides the sheer vast quantity of it) is that each of these lines of evidence is predicted by evolutionary theory. In addition, these lines of evidence are independent of each other. One line of evidence does not depend on another. That they all corroborate with the same biological explanation (shared ancestry) is extremely convincing.

Biogeography

Biogeography is the study of how species are distributed spatially across the landscape (geographically). How species are distributed provides evidence for evolution. The distribution of many species does not make sense, unless they shared a common ancestor. For example, if species were static (unchanging), then you would expect to find the same species in areas with similar environmental conditions around the world. Evolutionary theory, however, predicts that modern species should be found close to where their ancestors were, regardless of the environmental conditions. This is the major type of evidence that convinced Darwin.

Darwin collected many animal and plant specimens, as well as fossils during his voyage on the Beagle. It turned out that the South American fauna were quite different from the European fauna that Darwin was used to. It also turned out that the fossils he found in South America were very similar to the living animals he had collected. Why should a unique set of animals be found in the same place as what appeared to be related fossils? The best explanation for this pattern is that the extant South American species had descended from the now extinct fossil species.

A particularly clear example of how the current distribution of species provides evidence for shared ancestry can be seen on islands. Evolutionary theory predicts that islands that have similar environments, but are in different parts of the world, will not be populated with the same species. Instead, these islands should be populated with plant and animal species that are closely related to the species on the nearest mainland, even if the environment there is very different from the island. This is what is seen throughout the world. For example, the Galapagos Islands off of the coast of Ecuador, South America, are volcanic and barren. These islands are not populated with species from other volcanic islands around the world; instead, they are populated with species that are related to those found in the nearby lush tropics of South America.

This pattern is predicted by evolutionary theory: newly formed geographically isolated islands are populated (by migration events) with plants and animals from the nearest mainland. These populations then adapt to the new environments on the islands, and reproductive isolation (i.e. speciation) eventually results. Subsequent migration from island to island within the archipelago leads to further adaptive changes and to additional speciation events. This pattern of migration to new habitats, adaptive evolution in response to novel environments, divergence from the ancestral population, and ultimately the formation of distinct species, is especially apparent on islands. For this reason, island chains like the Galapagos provide us with convincing evidence for shared ancestry. That different species on these islands have a shared history is the best explanation for their geographic pattern of distribution.

Fossil record

Another line of evidence for shared ancestry includes various aspects of the fossil record. Since rocks are laid down sequentially, with older rocks laid down before, and thus below, younger rocks, the chronological sequence of organisms can be inferred from where the fossils are found. The chronological order of the major groups seen in the fossil record shows a succession of species that is predicted by evolutionary theory. For example, prokaryotes, according to numerous independent lines of evidence, are thought to be the oldest group of organisms. Thus, evolutionary theory predicts that fossil prokaryotes should appear before (and therefore below) eukaryotes. This is what the fossil record shows: prokaryotes are found in older rocks than are eukaryotes. Likewise, fish appear before amphibians, which appear before reptiles, which appear before mammals; all as predicted by evolutionary theory.

Also as predicted, the fossil record shows transitions (links) between groups, which are evidence that these groups have a shared history. For example, mammals are thought to have evolved from a reptilian ancestor, and this transition is thoroughly documented with a series of fossil skulls (reptiles ->mammal-like reptiles -> reptile-like mammals -> mammals). There are also examples of transitions/links between fossils and modern species (two exceptionally well-documented cases include horses and humans). Likewise, the newly discovered whale fossil with hind limbs is a link between modern whales and their hypothesized terrestrial ancestor.

Similarity

Evolutionary theory predicts that, if all organisms have a shared ancestry, then all living things should have certain characteristics in common. The genetic code (genes and how their protein products are coded) is universal—all plants, animals, fungi, bacteria and protists have the same genetic code. There is no chemical reason for the specific code that we have (i.e. the genetic code is not chemically constrained to be the way it is). Another code would have worked as well. Nor is this the only way that information can be transferred from one generation to the next. The genetic code that all organisms now have, just so happened to be the one that the ancestor of all living things had. The fact that all organisms share this code reflects this historical legacy and provides evidence that all living taxa shared a common ancestor at one point in time.

There are two patterns of similarity in traits among species. The first type is an analogous similarity, which is when a trait in two different species is similar and they have the same function. The other type of similarity is homologous similarity, which is when two traits are similar, regardless of the function of the trait. In this case, two traits are similar even when it is not functionally necessary for them to be similar. The best explanation for this pattern of homologous similarity is that the traits are similar because of a common history of the two species. In other words, two species have the same trait because the common ancestor of the two species had the trait. For example, all vertebrate embryos look very similar during the earlier stages of development, including having gill pouches and tails. Thus, a reptilian embryo, a bird embryo and a human embryo look very similar, even though they develop into very different adult organisms (Figure 2)2.  The best explanation for this similarity in embryos is a shared history of vertebrates—all vertebrates share a common ancestor that had a tailed embryo with gill pouches.



Evolutionary theory predicts that different species will evolve different forms of shared (homologous) traits
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As lineages of organisms expand their ranges to new environments, they adapt to function in those new environments. The similar traits that different populations inherited from their common ancestors may be modified and diverge from each other (due to different environments). Thus, a shared (homologous) trait may diverge in form among related taxa. For example, all vertebrates have forelimbs made up of exactly the same bony elements. However, these elements have been greatly modified in different species for different functions. If organisms have evolved, then comparative studies of the morphology of these organisms should reveal evidence of shared ancestry. The fact that bird wings and mammal limbs (for example) share the same basic structure and bony elements provides convincing evidence that these animals share a common ancestor. Thus, homology provides evidence for shared ancestry—it provides glimpses into the shared ancestry of organisms today, and how they have diverged from their ancestors in the past.

Along the same lines, vestigial organs are structures that are currently of little use to the organism (i.e. they have no known current function). They are the historical remnants of structures that did have a function in earlier ancestors, and provide evidence for shared ancestry. Whales, for example, do not have hind limbs, but some whales have the vestiges of a pelvis and leg bones. The best explanation is that these pelvic and leg bone vestiges are homologous to all vertebrate pelvises and leg bones. This means that the ancestors of whales had complete structures, and that they have been greatly reduced in whale evolution.

Evolutionary theory also predicts that different organisms will independently evolve similar solutions to the same functional problem (analogy). For example, the wings of bats, birds, and insects all serve the same basic function (flight) and are similar in appearance. They are not similar because of shared ancestry (the common ancestor of bats, birds and insects did not have wings), but because they serve the same function. In another example, plants in the cactus family are only found in the New World. However, they are very similar in appearance to plants in the euphorb family, which are only found in the Old World. These two plant families are not closely related, yet they have very similar traits (e.g. thorny spines and highly reduced leaves). They do not share a common history; instead they share a common environment (hot, dry desert), to which they each have independently adapted similar traits. Another term for this is convergence or convergent evolution. The existence of similar characteristics in taxonomically different taxa with similar environments can be evidence for adaptive evolution (i.e. evolution by natural selection), if the similar characteristics function in similar ways to the shared environmental conditions.

Imperfect Adaptations/Contrivances

Evolutionary theory predicts that some traits will not be “perfectly” adapted. Natural selection (the only evolutionary mechanism to produce adaptations) does not “start from scratch” when a new functional challenge is presented. If it were able to start from scratch, we should expect to see nothing but perfection in adaptation. But since natural selection acts on the genetic variation that is currently available in a population, the “best” solution cannot always be found. Often, existing traits are modified (“contrived”) to serve a new function. The giant panda’s thumb, a modified wrist bone, is one famous example of a clumsy adaptation contrived from an existing trait.

Another example of an imperfect adaptation is the vertebrate eye (including our own). The design of the vertebrate retina is “inside-out.” The retina is behind the nerves that form the optic nerve. Where the optic nerve leaves the eye, there is a hole, which results in a blind spot. There is no functional reason for our eyes to be this way; the best explanation is historical—a “better” retina was not available in the common ancestor of all vertebrates. In the eyes of some mollusks (squids and octopuses) the retina is in front of the optic nerve, and thus they have no blind spot. Their ancestors happened to have the structures that could be modified into functional eyes without the design compromise of a blind spot.

http://evoled.dbs.umt.edu/lessons/evidence.htm
Re: Evolutionary Theory And Creation Theory by OLULAW: 4:24am On Mar 06, 2010
Given that a theory is "a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena. In other words, it is the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science," creationsim cannot be adjudged, and is not, a theory. Instead, it's a religious proposition.

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