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Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by Lady234: 2:54pm On Dec 29, 2009
Alevi muslims refuse to worship in mosques.
They are part of Turkey's 15 million strong Alevi Islam. Interestingly Alevi muslims believe in the Unity of allah, muhammed and ali, a doctrine which closely resembles the Christian doctrine of the Trinity. Although they say its not a trinity, Alevi's believe muhammad and ali are representations of divine energies, the first of which is allah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alevi_Islam
Re: Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by Nobody: 2:57pm On Dec 29, 2009
Re: Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by jagunlabi(m): 3:06pm On Dec 29, 2009
Key Alevi characteristics include:

-Love and respect for all people (“The important thing is not religion, but being a human being”)
-Tolerance towards other religions and ethnic groups (“If you hurt another person, the ritual prayers you have done are counted as worthless”)
-Respect for working people ("The greatest act of worship is to work”)
-Equality of men and women, who pray side by side. Monogamy is practiced[/list]

What lovely characteristics! smiley If only the other islamic factions can adopt the same characteristics!
Re: Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by Lady234: 3:12pm On Dec 29, 2009
jagunlabi:

Key Alevi characteristics include:

-Love and respect for all people (“The important thing is not religion, but being a human being”)
-Tolerance towards other religions and ethnic groups (“If you hurt another person, the ritual prayers you have done are counted as worthless”)
-Respect for working people ("The greatest act of worship is to work”)
-Equality of men and women, who pray side by side. Monogamy is practiced[/list]

What lovely characteristics! smiley If only the other islamic factions can adopt the same characteristics!

@ jagunlabi
They believe they don't have to kill people to be in "paradise"
Re: Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by KunleOshob(m): 3:19pm On Dec 29, 2009
They are probably "born again" muslims grin
Re: Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by jagunlabi(m): 3:38pm On Dec 29, 2009
Allah U Akbar to that. grin
Lady 234:

@ jagunlabi
They don't kill people to be in "paradise"
Re: Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by jagunlabi(m): 3:39pm On Dec 29, 2009
More like the islamic version of the christian gnosticism.They are probably much closer to sufism than islam.
KunleOshob:

They are probably "born again" muslims grin
Re: Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by Lady234: 4:18pm On Dec 29, 2009
jagunlabi:

Key Alevi characteristics include:

-Love and respect for all people (“The important thing is not religion, but being a human being”)
-Tolerance towards other religions and ethnic groups (“If you hurt another person, the ritual prayers you have done are counted as worthless”)
-Respect for working people ("The greatest act of worship is to work”)
-Equality of men and women, who pray side by side. Monogamy is practiced[/list]

What lovely characteristics! smiley If only the other islamic factions can adopt the same characteristics!
You supported them

jagunlabi:

More like the islamic version of the christian gnosticism.They are probably much closer to sufism than islam.
Now you write against them.

Why do muslims kill
Re: Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by jagunlabi(m): 4:27pm On Dec 29, 2009
Lady 234:

You supported them
Yes, i did.

Lady 234:

Now you write against them.
No, i did not.I merely stated the nature of their belief system., and was neither judging them nor their approach to what they believe in any way.

Why do christians tend to read and interprete things upside down?
Re: Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by Lady234: 4:52pm On Dec 29, 2009
jagunlabi:

More like the islamic version of the christian gnosticism.They are probably much closer to sufism than islam.

How best can one interprete what you wrote above. You've clearly written that they are closer to sufism than islam but you said:
"What lovely characteristics! If only the other islamic factions can adopt the same characteristics! which would mean they are muslims as you have catergorised alevism as an islamic faction.

Why do christians tend to read and interprete things upside down?
Who is guilty here muslims or Christians.
, anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people." (Qur'an 5:32)
Why do muslims kill to go to "paradise"
Re: Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by jagunlabi(m): 5:17pm On Dec 29, 2009
Lady 234:

How best can one interprete what you wrote above. You've clearly written that they are closer to sufism than islam but you said:
"What lovely characteristics! If only the other islamic factions can adopt the same characteristics! which would mean they are muslims as you have catergorised alevism as an islamic faction.
Lady, what i meant with that statement was that because of the characteristics of their beliefs(which are very unlike that of the traditional islamic dogma indeed) they are closer to sufism.This is not a negative judgement of their belief but a show of appreciation.When i said that they are closer to sufism, i was not denying that they are a sort of islamic faction, but was just stating the nature of their belief system in a positive, appreciative and non-judgemental fashion.
Do you know anything about sufism,lady?
Re: Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by Lady234: 5:25pm On Dec 29, 2009
[/quote].
Do you know anything about sufism,lady?
[quote]

I know. they are mystic.
Re: Alevi Muslims Refuse To Worship In Mosques by jagunlabi(m): 5:37pm On Dec 29, 2009
Lady 234:

I know. they are mystic.
Is that all?Are you familiar with what sufism is all about, the nature of their beliefs?

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