Pope Benedict XVI, speaking to members of the Pontifical Academy for Life earlier this year, addressed the issue of married couples struggling with infertility. He said, “The Church pays great attention to the suffering of couples with infertility, she cares for them and, precisely because of this, encourages medical research.”
But he warned against “the lure of the technology of artificial insemination,” which is not permitted by Catholic teaching. The Pope said to couples unable to conceive: “[Your] vocation to marriage is no less because of this. Spouses, for their own baptismal and marriage vocation, are called to cooperate with God in the creation of a new humanity. The vocation to love, in fact, is a vocation to the gift of self and this is a possibility that no organic condition can prevent. There, where science has not yet found an answer, the answer that gives light comes from Christ.”
Catholic teaching prohibits in vitro fertilization, maintaining that a child has the right to be conceived in the marital embrace of his parents. Human sexuality has two components, the unitive and procreative; IVF separates these components and makes the procreative its only goal. Pope Paul VI said that there is an “inseparable connection, willed by God, and unable to be broken by man on his own initiative, between the two meanings of the conjugal act: the unitive meaning and the procreative meaning.”
There are other issues involved. IVF makes the child a commodity produced in a laboratory, and makes doctors, technicians, and even business people part of the conception process. The sperm used is usually obtained by masturbation, which the Church teaches is immoral. The sperm or eggs used may not come from the couple desiring the child; because one of the spouses may be infertile, it may be necessary to use the sperm or eggs from an outsider. Most of the embryos conceived—which the Church holds should be respected new human lives—die, are frozen indefinitely for later implantation, are used for research, or are discarded. Children conceived through IVF also have a greater incidence of birth defect.
http://www.afriforum.net/289/catholic-view-on-ivf#91

Well that's the catholic's view.
We have God's view,catholic's view,Jehovah witness' view,etc.

thorpido:
Well that's the catholic's view. We have God's view,catholic's view,Jehovah witness' view,etc.

To you what's God view on IVF

veneza:


To you what's God view on IVF

God's view is the same as with heart transplant or kidney transplant.
He gave men the knowledge and if He didn't want it to work,no matter how men try,it will fail.
You know there are high failure rates with IVF.

thank God its Catholic view,I mean wetin concern the church with how you bring in a child into the world.that was how my bestie got pregnant and the husband denied it because he so much believed in the safe period method being 100% effective,and that the catholic church can never be wrong.

thorpido:
God's view is the same as with heart transplant or kidney transplant.
He gave men the knowledge and if He didn't want it to work,no matter how men try,it will fail.
You know there are high failure rates with IVF.

let us follow your arguement to its reasonable conclusion. God also gave man d knowledge of nuclear weapons, and if he doesnt want it to work, no matter what it will fail abi? So any country that successfully detonate a nuclear bomb is approved by God abi?

Sorry that line of arguement is fallacious.

Science has also had both positive and humanly degrading application and in this case the pope argues that to make human life a commodity to be produced in d lab is to degrade it.

Add that to the 100's of human life in d formative stage that dies in the process then it is truly dispicable.

Abiagirl777:
thank God its Catholic view,I mean wetin concern the church with how you bring in a child into the world.that was how my bestie got pregnant and the husband denied it because he so much believed in the safe period method being 100% effective,and that the catholic church can never be wrong.

Weytin concern d church is pretty simple, the church judges d morality of actions and in this case she says it is immoral.

Ubenedictus:
let us follow your arguement to its reasonable conclusion. God also gave man d knowledge of nuclear weapons, and if he doesnt want it to work, no matter what it will fail abi? So any country that successfully detonate a nuclear bomb is approved by God abi?

Sorry that line of arguement is fallacious.

Science has also had both positive and humanly degrading application and in this case the pope argues that to make human life a commodity to be produced in d lab is to degrade it.

Add that to the 100's of human life in d formative stage that dies in the process then it is truly dispicable.

That is true @bolded.Nevertheless,He doesn't always interfere in all human activities.If men choose to destroy themselves,he may not interfere but that does not mean He approves it.
The IVF is peculiar because even scientists can't give the life. They only become part of the process of assisting it.
I agree abuse is part of it.

thorpido:
That is true @bolded.Nevertheless,He doesn't always interfere in all human activities.If men choose to destroy themselves,he may not interfere but that does not mean He approves it.
The IVF is peculiar because even scientists can't give the life. They only become part of the process of assisting it.
I agree abuse is part of it.

Actually life can now be created in d lab, all you need is egg i.e ovum and sperm, it may die off early but it can certianly be created that is IVF, making human life a commodity.

Ubenedictus:
Actually life can now be created in d lab, all you need is egg i.e ovum and sperm, it may die off early but it can certianly be created that is IVF, making human life a commodity.

Except the Lord build a house,they labour in vain that build it....

The scientists can only work in the lab but the life still comes from God.That is why some die off.The ones that stay,stay because God sustained them.

thorpido:
Except the Lord build a house,they labour in vain that build it....

The scientists can only work in the lab but the life still comes from God.That is why some die off.The ones that stay,stay because God sustained them.

yeah and the bomb that blew, blew because God allowed it.

That God allows a thing doesn't mean he approves it.

Ubenedictus:
yeah and the bomb that blew, blew because God allowed it.

That God allows a thing doesn't mean he approves it.

Exactly @bolded.
We are concerned about the ones He approves.Heart transfers and IVF fall in the same category.They sustain life unlike bombs that destroy.
They can't even be compared.

thorpido:
Exactly @bolded.
We are concerned about the ones He approves.Heart transfers and IVF fall in the same category.They sustain life unlike bombs that destroyWe are concerned about the ones He approves.Heart transfers and IVF fall in the same category.They sustain life unlike bombs that destroy.
They can't even be compared.

IVF and heart transplant aren't the same, while the later sustian life, the former plays God by creating life in a labThey can't even be compared.[/quote] IVF and heart transplant aren't the same, while the later sustian life, the former plays God by creating life in a lab.

Are you even aware that even none married people even use d same ivf and get kids as a commodity? Or people who run ponzi schemes by selling ivf kids? Did God not see it when he gave d life? does that also mean God approves those too? hell noAre you even aware that even none married people even use d same ivf and get kids as a commodity? Or people who run ponzi schemes by selling ivf kids? Did God not see it when he ga

Ubenedictus:
IVF and heart transplant aren't the same, while the later sustian life, the former plays God by creating life in a labThey can't even be compared. IVF and heart transplant aren't the same, while the later sustian life, the former plays God by creating life in a lab.

Are you even aware that even none married people even use d same ivf and get kids as a commodity? Or people who run ponzi schemes by selling ivf kids? Did God not see it when he gave d life? does that also mean God approves those too? hell noAre you even aware that even none married people even use d same ivf and get kids as a commodity? Or people who run ponzi schemes by selling ivf kids? Did God not see it when he ga

God approves the children,not the people or purpose by which they come.Every child comes with a destiny that is independent of whether they come from illicit relationships or illicit IVF deals.

thorpido:
God approves the children,not the people or purpose by which they come.Every child comes with a destiny that is independent of whether they come from illicit relationships or illicit IVF deals.

nobody is arguing about the children, even d pope will agree that a child of rape is still a child created and loved by God, an ivf child is also loved by God even d pope will agree.
The problem is d means! That is where d pope disaproves, d means is wrong! To treate human life as a lab commodity is wrong.