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lol even before then, the dead Jew begged for the "cup to pass over" him

hopefulLandlord:
lol even before then, the dead Jew begged for the "cup to pass over" him

lol

@rawgurl,

ANSWER: "ANTHROPOTHEISM"-The assertion that all gods are nothing more than deified men!!!

A man constituted himself as a nuisance and the Romans were irritated by him, and also, the jews felt that he had blasphemed by equating himself to their god, so they now decided to crucify him!!! But the man(jesus), who might have been taking excess amounts of hard drugs or even suffered from "temporal-lobe Epilepsy", started believing that truly, an old man in the sky was going to save him, and since nothing happened, he starts to question his faith on the cross!!! Jesus doubted his own religion on the cross, and he died an atheist!!!

why would god even sacrifice himself to himself?

why would he come for him to be killed by the people he wants so save, as a means of saving them?

Niflheim:
@rawgurl,

ANSWER: "ANTHROPOTHEISM"-The assertion that all gods are nothing more than deified men!!!

A man constituted himself as a nuisance and the Romans were irritated by him, and also, the jews felt that he had blasphemed by equating himself to their god, so they now decided to crucify him!!! But the man(jesus), who might have been taking excess amounts of hard drugs or even suffered from "temporal-lobe Epilepsy", started believing that truly, an old man in the sky was going to save him, and since nothing happened, he starts to question his faith on the cross!!! Jesus doubted his own religion on the cross, and he died an atheist!!!

u said it all.

rawgurl:
Jesus' last words on the cross,

"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

hardly seem like the words of a man who planned it that way

Read ur Bible, those were not his last words, his last words were" it is finished"

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rawgurl:


"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" did he make this statement ?

Yes he did, but it wasn't his last as u earlier mentioned

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rawgurl:


does that means the son of God doubted the existence of his father ?

How did u get to dis premise

spartan117:
How did u get to dis premise

that's the conclusion, not a premise

hopefulLandlord:

that's the conclusion, not a premise

So what led u to dis conclusion

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rawgurl:


does that means the son of God doubted the existence of his father ?

go girl

This should help.
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously.
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
1 peters:2:21

Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
1 Peter:4:1

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Matthew:16:24

1 Peter:2:24
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Matthew:10:38

rawgurl:


A good king inspires loyalty. An evil tyrant demands blind obediance. A good king allows those who do not want to serve him leave in peace. An evil tyrant kills and tortures those who will not be slaves. This is why I could never be christian.

Lol. I had that same thought last year, before I gave my life to Christ. Why won't there be another option? Why must it heaven or hell? I even cursed him, because I couldn't understand him. Then he opened my eyes.

I was watching one movie then, there was on actor i hated. Despite everything his friend did for him. With all the oath they took, never to betray each other. He still detrayed and killed his friend.

Immediately that happened I removed the movie and broke it into pieces. There was a voice in my head saying why did I break this disk? Why was I angry? I don't normally react this way, when I watch movies. And I was like why would someone be this wicked? That even if I get this actor in real life I will beat him up. That I will never be this wicked and evil, that anyone this evil shouldn't live. The voice: So you hate him because he isn't like you? I said yes.
The voice: Do you now see why sin, is an abomination in the sight of your Creator? Then this verse can to me:
Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
1 Peter:1:16
That God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
1 John:1:5

cooncudee:
why would god even sacrifice himself to himself?

why would he come for him to be killed by the people he wants so save, as a means of saving them?

It is a fabrication and blatant lie by the Roman. How could the majestic lord of the throne do such a things. Christian invented a lie against their lord.

NoWorries7:
This should help.
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously.
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
1 peters:2:21

Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
1 Peter:4:1

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Matthew:16:24

1 Peter:2:24
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Matthew:10:38

still does not clarify it

NoWorries7:
Lol. I had that same thought last year, before I gave my life to Christ. Why won't there be another option? Why must it heaven or hell? I even cursed him, because I couldn't understand him. Then he opened my eyes.

I was watching one movie then, there was on actor i hated. Despite everything his friend did for him. With all the oath they took, never to betray each other. He still detrayed and killed his friend.

Immediately that happened I removed the movie and broke it into pieces. There was a voice in my head saying why did I break this disk? Why was I angry? I don't normally react this way, when I watch movies. And I was like why would someone be this wicked? That even if I get this actor in real life I will beat him up. That I will never be this wicked and evil, that anyone this evil shouldn't live. The voice: So you hate him because he isn't like you? I said yes.
The voice: Do you now see why sin, is an abomination in the sight of your Creator? Then this verse can to me:
Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
1 Peter:1:16
That God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
1 John:1:5

u were never an atheist.

Ur bible said God was on high and he controlled the world and therefore we must pray against Satan. Well, if God controls the world, he controls Satan. For me, religion was full of misstatements and reaches of logic that I just couldn't agree with