DONSMITH123:
Fear Ooni of Ife. Next time he will learn how to respect Ooni

history2900:
For the last time, the Oba of Lagos is not a junior to the Ooni of Ife. hey are monarchs of different kingdoms ! Was the king of England superior to the king of France ? All this madness needs to stop.

history2900:
Oduduwa is a myth, a character in a religion. You are confusing religion and history. Please go to europe and learn the meaning of history, it seems they don't teach it in nigeria anymore, thank God I studied in europe.

coolestchris:
real power, fvck Christianity

history2900:
For the last time, the Oba of Lagos is not a junior to the Ooni of Ife. hey are monarchs of different kingdoms ! Was the king of England superior to the king of France ? All this madness needs to stop.

krispycash:


I would like to correct a notion... The Ooni of Ife is way superior to the oba of Lagos... The Ooni of ife is the Oba of the Yoruba tribe one of the descendants of oduduwa like the ALAFIN of oyo and the oba of Benin.. Ile ife is believed to be the birthplace of the Yoruba kingdom. Forget what the European documents read... They can never know the history of a culture more than the people of that culture... So please the oba of Lagos is not recognised by the Queen of England. The throne and crown of the Ooni is recognised worldwide... As the leader of the Yoruba tribe... So the oba of Lagos is not at par with the ooni.

NovusHomo:


Just like Jesus, Yahweh, even Mohammed.

NovusHomo:


Oba of Omo Oniles is a paperweight in Yoruba ranking of Obas. Do not confuse the economic power of Lagos with Akiolu's stature. He ranks low; indeed, very low. He should stop mistaking courtesy and respect for ranking.

NLProblemChild:
The person above me should delete his comments .. I want to be the FTC on this matter ..

OlaoChi:
Yoruba history and religion is interwoven

That is one of the differences between Africa and Europe hence western education is education based on European ideas

FTBOY:
nope! i don't even believe the fire outbreak has got anything to do with the Ooni at all. ..it was purely accident. if there had been no slight misunderstanding between the two monarchs you wouldn't be here blaming the "gods" for being responsible for a common accident. you people should grow above these superstitious beliefs...it's part of african's problems.

ayenitre:


The best historian of African affairs are Africans. Oduduwa being a myth is a narrative that an European historian will most likely push. If you studied African history in Europe, ask for a refund, because chances are you read a factually incorrect textbooks or you were taught by a fraud. Only Africans can write objectively about African history because we had a life before whitemen built their ships. The first narrative held by most Yorubas is that Oodua is the first king of ile-ife, the alternative narrative is that he's a pantheon actively involved in the creation of the world. I guess you were refering to the later narrative when you claimed he's a myth. The Ooni is always referred to as god or Oorisa irrespective of who held the office. Ooni Adeyeye is an Orisa but that doesn't make him a 'myth' does it?

Don't get me wrong, western education is good as I earned an advanced degree in engineering in a western country myself, but to imply that only whites can write our history is shocking to say the least.

OlaoChi:


Ife is the source of yorubaland. That alone makes all obas less than the ooni

Saintmary:

that explains the conflict in information, you studied in europe! So, you will call yourself an expert on yoruba matters just because some university gave you certificate (pali).

seeyouin2019:



Lagos is a no mans land. you guys only started claiming it after the Biafra war..

SouthWestBlood:


Superstitious? But you believe the white Jesus story? Go and sleep!

history2900:
My point was that I learnt the meaning of "history" in europe !

history2900:
I think you are reversing roles here. the british crown has lots of documents about the Oba of Lagos, he was a vassal to the british crown for quite some time. And once again, oduduwa is a myth, a character in a religion. No precolonial map records ife as an important entity. And let me tell you an other seceret: yoruba is not a tribe, it is a union of tribes. Even the word yoruba is a recent one and it was meant to discribe only a few among those who now call themselves yorubas. Just go to the gallica website and check the precolonial maps. The only link between the different yoruba tribes is the Benin empire of which the vast majority of them were once citizens. Some igbo tribes were also citizens of the Benin empire.

history2900:
Lagos iis not "noman's land". Lagos was a part of the Benin empire, it was a vassal kingdom to the Oba (of Benin) crown before the british took over

Saintmary:

And before the Oba of Benin?

Cloud007:
hummm....you are so lost. You can tell those your gibberish to pple dat don't know their origin. Yoruba culture is rich and near 100% accurate. Also u can't separate religion from Yoruba culture. See Oduduwa the first king of ile ife gave birth to okanbi. Okanbi gave birth to seven children. Onipopo of Popo, Onisabe of Sabe, Alara of Ara, Ajero of Ijero, Orangun of Oke-Ila, Owa Obokun Ajibogun of Ijesaland and Oranmiyan.Oranmiyan was the last son and the most adventurous of the members of Oduduwa's dynasty. Oranmiyan was the first Oba of Benin and also the first Alafin of Oyo and the sixth Ooni (King of ife)(where we have Opa Oranmiyan till date)From my simple analogy. You should understand if you want to....dat ife/Ooni existed way long before both oyo and bini kingdom. Either Lagos pple came from ife or bini they still have the same central origin. Which is ife. Oga....I fink you should return ur glorified diploma certificate and sue for a refund. Trust me, you are only making a caricature of your self here. Meanwhile it will be worthwhile if you dedicate your study/story to you own origin. Cos am super sure u are not Yoruba not even worthy to accept the prestige dat comes from a concubine. Ese pupo.

history2900:
I don't know, the first pre-colonial map of the region shows Lagos as a vassal to Benin.

coolestchris:
real power, fvck Christianity

Saintmary:

Are you giving attention to this person, all he knows about the Yoruba Nation, he got from one University E-Library and Google.

Saintmary:

What makes you think that the Great Britain has authority over the culture and history of the Yoruba People.

history2900:

Yeah, "don't discuss with those who do not hold the same opinion as you, no matter how solid their proofs are", that seems to be the african way of thinking. And my friend the Bibliothèque nationale de France is a real library, google it, it is not just an e-library. I spent a lot of time in that library. I wont discuss my credentials, they are out of topic.

Cloud007:
hummm....you are so lost. You can tell those your gibberish to pple dat don't know their origin. Yoruba culture is rich and near 100% accurate. Also u can't separate religion from Yoruba culture. See Oduduwa the first king of ile ife gave birth to okanbi. Okanbi gave birth to seven children. Onipopo of Popo, Onisabe of Sabe, Alara of Ara, Ajero of Ijero, Orangun of Oke-Ila, Owa Obokun Ajibogun of Ijesaland and Oranmiyan.Oranmiyan was the last son and the most adventurous of the members of Oduduwa's dynasty. Oranmiyan was the first Oba of Benin and also the first Alafin of Oyo and the sixth Ooni (King of ife)(where we have Opa Oranmiyan till date)From my simple analogy. You should understand if you want to....dat ife/Ooni existed way long before both oyo and bini kingdom. Either Lagos pple came from ife or bini they still have the same central origin. Which is ife. Oga....I fink you should return ur glorified diploma certificate and sue for a refund. Trust me, you are only making a caricature of your self here. Meanwhile it will be worthwhile if you dedicate your study/story to you own origin. Cos am super sure u are not Yoruba not even worthy to accept the prestige dat comes from a concubine. Ese pupo.

history2900:

Please let us be factual here, these maps were drawn by several european explorers, not just british ones. And the point which you are missing is this: nobody cares about the nationality of the explorers ! What matters is that they drew precised precolonial maps which are like pictures of the past, let us look at those pictures, even if you hate the photographer !

Saintmary:

ok then, let me reframe the question to suit your mind, What makes you think the whole of Europe and Europeans have authority over the culture of the Yoruba Nation?