eyinjuege:
How many men and women that are strangers to you who have disrespected you have you slapped? Talk more of giving blows to?

KhalDroggo:

Unfortunately, people like you only learn from experience. So my wish for you is that your mother, daughter, sister, aunt, in short all the females in your life, experience the kind of violence you are condoning.

hobermener:

Everyone has a limit!!!

hobermener:

Was expecting shallow minds like you to quote me. This is a dispassionate analysis of the truth. Hate it or like it

eyinjuege:


You still didn't answer the question I asked.
I know for sure in Nigeria, as a Nigerian we have very rude, annoying people on the roads. If you drive, you can be sure to get into road rage on the roads. If you also take public transport, its a no brainer that your ox will definitely be gored. Its unavoidable.
By both men, and women.
My question again- how many of these annoying, rude, crazy people on the roads have you slapped?

KhalDroggo:


Why am I shallow for wanting you to enjoy a taste of your own medicine?

hobermener:

A taste of my own medicine Wasn't wrong after all to conclude you have a shallow mind. Go through the post one more time, this time read slowly and with your senses on

hobermener:

Don't be too quick to quote if you don't have a valid point to pass across. Note my usage of the word "limit". Getting pissed by a reckless driver on the road or some angry woman at the store, does not compare to being psychologically traumatized by the actions of a spouse you meet and live with everyday!
You can put up with it for years but someday you might just lose your cool.
I do not advocate domestic violence as clearly outlined in my post, i just hate "the hypocrisy, and double standards" that come with it.

KhalDroggo:


Don't need to go through your post again. Just going through your vomit once was bad enough, but I'll summarise your main point so you'll understand how mindless it is: [b]Your position is that a man is typically level-headed but society should not judge him harshly if he loses his calm and beats a woman to stupor for merely saying something that he doesn't like. And for you, there is nothing wrong with this. The question is, would a man be that bold if it were another man who used abusive language towards him? Especially if that other man is bigger and stronger than him? So why would he be justified using for using the same method against a woman? Try your argument out in the civilised world and you'll be amazed at how ridiculous it sounds because such ideas have no place in any civilised community.[/b]

eyinjuege:


There is no hypocrisy anywhere. Its just common sense. A woman close to you keeps putting you down. Its only logical to leave such a toxic relationship. Same as its advocated for victims of domestic violence.
Now, when we talk of the law, it never equates physical assault to verbal/emotional assault. Once you touch a person, it becomes a different ball game entirely.
Your wife cheats on you? Then divorce her. Don't go beating her. Does it mean if a man cheats on his wife, she's allowed to pour hot water on him? Or use a pestle to break his head while he's asleep?
Your wife always insults you and disrespects you? Then divorce her. Its not by force to stay married to a nag. Why break her skull? Men also nag, and are emotionally abusive. Do we still advocate violence on such men? You'd be surprised that a lot of men are masters of emotional abuse.
If we all don't stand against violence now, do not be surprised when the women who are pushed to the wall begin their own retaliations.
No sex has a monopoly on violence, and its just a matter of time if its not curbed.

emmyN:
OP has a point, like it or not

optional1:
op wait till one beast punch ur sister in the face..



Lets see if you will blame her or the man....




No matter what a lady do to piss you off never rise your hands on her.. There are one million and one ways to punish her order than punching her...


#Real_men_dont _touch_a_woman.

hobermener:
Lately, several topics about domestic violence have graced the front page of this forum, and there seems to be a shocking trend; "the fact that the female is always the victim, and the male the beast".
Before you start passing judgements, i would like to state clearly that I'm not here to hold brief for the "shameful" actions of some men, but to point out the often ignored hypocrisy that usually accompanies society's views and analysis of this despicable act.

Most men are inbred introverts, as opposed to their extroverted female counterparts, and its not too uncommon to see men reacting physically when under pressure or when they get to what I'll like to term their "elastic limit".Most women have noticed this weakness in men, and never fail to use it to their advantage. Women thus have mastered the act of playing the victim card.
The average man seeks to be respected by his wife or girlfriend, while the woman seeks to be loved and showered with affection. Women don't understand that more than anything else, the man places an inestimable value on respect from his spouse, as no man ever wants to have his ego dragged in the mud - its no fault of ours, thats just how we're wired.

I watched a clip on Facebook where a girl was literally harassing a guy in a high school classroom, calling him a bïtch and all forms of demeaning names as she pulled his shirt and continously tossed him around to the consternation of his friends and everyone around, even the high school teacher. This continued for a while as the dude kept his cool, expecting her to retreat, but she only increased the tempo. Dude lost his cool and slammed the the girl to the floor. That was the moment the high school teacher and everyone else stepped in to stop him and take him out of the class. Many comments from men and women alike condemned the girls actions while excusing that of the guy, as they claimed she got what she deserved. But my question was what if there was no video recording of how everything played out and the girl just steps out with a swollen face accusing the guy of brutality?? Your guess is as good as mine - the dude will be cooling off in jail and not even his own parents will believe his side of the story!!!!

There's another instance of a lady, who on instagram cried for help as she was thrown out by her fiance after an altercation with him. He was angry and called her names after she consumed his breakfast, and instead of attempting to mollify his anger by sweet words or just walking away, she claim to have given him"back to back" and when the dude couldn't handle any more of her venomous words, he requested that she be thrown out! asserting that he had no respect for her, ladies on instagram were busy screaming for her to "pull out, pull out", like davido was about to cum in his third side chick, but she insisted she wants to have words with him, which shows she takes a large portion of the blame for what really played out.
No man in his sane mind who proposed to a woman or marries her would want to hit her for any reason, but the venomous and disparaging vituperations from some angry women could make even angel Gabriel's heart boil. Some women have mastered the art of so pushing men to the wall and expecting them to remain docile because he's the man, and any attempt to touch her would constitute domestic violence. I'm strongly of the opinion that if ladies will learn to bridle their mouths and respect their better halves, cases of domestic violence will trickle down to almost none. I make bold to state that no sane man would dare touch a respectful woman, except under the influence of some substance. Even the holy books command the woman to be respectful and submissive to the husband while he in turn loves her and cherishes her as his own self.
The popular slogan "real men don't touch women" should be amended to "real men walkaway from disrespectful women". Don't disrespect every man that comes your way, and expect to be respected in return. Life is all give and take!!!
The feminists as usual would run to counter this often ignored truth, but any rational mind would see this as the truth laid bare.

I edited @bolded. I'm not a fan of violence regardless of the gender involved. Except ofcourse its for self defense.

Brilliant piece You've got.

Viking007:
I edited @bolded. I'm not a fan of violence regardless of the gender involved. Except ofcourse is for self defense.

Brilliant piece You've got.

hobermener:

I presume you to be a matured adult. I cant help you think with your rational mind!!
How many times have instances of domestic violence against men popped up on the news??
For ages the women have been known to play the victim card. Do you know how many men go through domestic violence of some sort and are asked to suck it up cos they men?
You scream divorce like its ewa agoyin and bread. How many men can risk parting with half of what they labored for all their lives?? How many can risk parting with their biological kids
So you get married to a woman, she insults you on your wedding night, and you.file for divorce the next morning?

hobermener:

God how do nigerians reason

hobermener:

I presume you to be a matured adult. I cant help you think with your rational mind!!
How many times have instances of domestic violence against men popped up on the news??
For ages the women have been known to play the victim card. Do you know how many men go through domestic violence of some sort and are asked to suck it up cos they men?
You scream divorce like its ewa agoyin and bread. How many men can risk parting with half of what they labored for all their lives?? How many can risk parting with their biological kids
So you get married to a woman, she insults you on your wedding night, and you.file for divorce the next morning
God how do nigerians reason

hobermener:
Lately, several topics about domestic violence have graced the front page of this forum, and there seems to be a shocking trend; "the fact that the female is always the victim, and the male the beast".
Before you start passing judgements, i would like to state clearly that I'm not here to hold brief for the "shameful" actions of some men, but to point out the often ignored hypocrisy that usually accompanies society's views and analysis of this despicable act.

Most men are inbred introverts, as opposed to their extroverted female counterparts, and its not too uncommon to see men reacting physically when under pressure or when they get to what I'll like to term their "elastic limit".Most women have noticed this weakness in men, and never fail to use it to their advantage. Women thus have mastered the act of playing the victim card.
The average man seeks to be respected by his wife or girlfriend, while the woman seeks to be loved and showered with affection. Women don't understand that more than anything else, the man places an inestimable value on respect from his spouse, as no man ever wants to have his ego dragged in the mud -

its no fault of ours, thats just how we're wired.

I watched a clip on Facebook where a girl was literally harassing a guy in a high school classroom, calling him a bïtch and all forms of demeaning names as she pulled his shirt and continously tossed him around to the consternation of his friends and everyone around, even the high school teacher. This continued for a while as the dude kept his cool, expecting her to retreat, but she only increased the tempo. Dude lost his cool and slammed the the girl to the floor. That was the moment the high school teacher and everyone else stepped in to stop him and take him out of the class. Many comments from men and women alike condemned the girls actions while excusing that of the guy, as they claimed she got what she deserved. But my question was what if there was no video recording of how everything played out and the girl just steps out with a swollen face accusing the guy of brutality?? Your guess is as good as mine - the dude will be cooling off in jail and not even his own parents will believe his side of the story!!!!

There's another instance of a lady, who on instagram cried for help as she was thrown out by her fiance after an altercation with him. He was angry and called her names after she consumed his breakfast, and instead of attempting to mollify his anger by sweet words or just walking away, she claim to have given him"back to back" and when the dude couldn't handle any more of her venomous words, he requested that she be thrown out! asserting that he had no respect for her, ladies on instagram were busy screaming for her to "pull out, pull out", like davido was about to cum in his third side chick, but she insisted she wants to have words with him, which shows she takes a large portion of the blame for what really played out.
No man in his sane mind who proposed to a woman or marries her would want to hit her for any reason, but the venomous and disparaging vituperations from some angry women could make even angel Gabriel's heart boil. Some women have mastered the art of so pushing men to the wall and expecting them to remain docile because he's the man, and any attempt to touch her would constitute domestic violence. I'm strongly of the opinion that if ladies will learn to bridle their mouths and respect their better halves, cases of domestic violence will trickle down to almost none. I make bold to state that no sane man would dare touch a respectful woman, except under the influence of some substance. Even the holy books command the woman to be respectful and submissive to the husband while he in turn loves her and cherishes her as his own self.
The popular slogan "real men don't touch women" should be amended to "real men dont touch respectful women". Don't disrespect every man that comes your way, and expect to be respected in return. Life is all give and take!!!
The feminists as usual would run to counter this often ignored truth, but any rational mind would see this as the truth laid bare.

ScarletOverkill:



Lol. Victim card, huh?
Speaking out about domestic abuse = playing the victim card? When you use that sentence, "playing the victim card', you imply that these women aren't even victims. That perhaps they just love being pitied or that they somehow want to make men look bad or that they just like making noise. Check the frontpage- a girl in South Africa was burnt to death by her boyfriend after suffering routine beatings throughout the duration of their relationship. Had she gathered the guts to speak out, would that be your conclusion? That she just wanted to, you know, play the victim?

And who asked men not to speak up? Anybody hold una mouth? Who created a system of hyper masculinity where men feel obliged to protect their ever-fragile manhood's by suffering in silence?

When Daddy Freeze spoke up about the constant physical and emotional abuse he sufferred in the hands of his ex wife, was it not men who mocked him? I have a friend who still sees Freeze as a weakling because his wife used to hit him. If that boy gets married tomorrow and his wife starts abusing him, he'll also feel obliged to suck it up and protect his nonexistent masculinity.
When men are ready to get over their hang-ups, they can finally muster up enough courage to speak up. Until then, park well and let people who are courageous enough to speak up do so.

I find it really amusing, but not very surprising, that a lot of Nigerian men, like you, are triggered by the recent spotlight on domestic abuse and somehow feel the need to defend themselves. Guilt is a biatch, yeah?



I've always wondered about this, too. You and your thread made me wonder even more.

hobermener:

The feminist are here!!!
"NO MATTER" what a woman does", DO NOT punch her!!
Honey I'm no proponent of domestic violence or beating women, my point is the belief that a man should hold himself even after he's been put through the greatest ordeal by his wife, and he be regarded as a beast for taking a "reflex action" based on how bad he's been treated at that time is hypocritical, especially when you consider the way the women are being excused.

hobermener:

Your use of sensless gifs and obtrusive fonts says it all.
And @the bolded, ill suggest you go through the post again, but you wouldn't because you've chosen to wallow in your self delusion of making a valid point. You should fix your comprehension problems though

Well, at least we agree that my use of gifs and bold print is like your use of brain power: loud and pointless You're one of those bright boys who only sees the good in those who blindly agree with you. Sorry, won't join be joining that bandwagon.I see other Nairalanders have been putting you in your place though. Very nice.....

hobermener:

Mrs wannabe feminist, refrencing the case of the south African girl is just a shameful act of trying to whip up sentiments on your part, while ignoring countless cases of men who've committed suicide due to the frustration and trauma their wives put them through. This is less pronounced in a coun5 like nigeria, but in the western world, a man can be sent to jail simply for being accused of rape or some form of violence against a woman, without the burden of proof being on the woman. And as regards freeze, did his wife not allege him battering her too?? Or you carefully skipped that just to prove your point??
I am no advocate of domestic violence, but when a woman acts in such an offensive manner as to trigger a man into hitting her, she should be apportioned some blames too, something we never get to see

hobermener:

Mrs wannabe feminist. refrencing the case of the south African girl is just a shameful act of trying to whip up sentiments on your part, while ignoring countless cases of men who've committed suicide due to the frustration and trauma their wives put them through. This is less pronounced in a coun5 like nigeria, but in the western world, a man can be sent to jail simply for being accused of rape or some form of violence against a woman, without the burden of proof being on the woman. And as regards freeze, did his wife not allege him battering her too?? Or you carefully skipped that just to prove your point??
I am no advocate of domestic violence but when a woman acts in such an offensive manner as to trigger a man into hitting her, she should be apportioned some blames too, something we never get to see

eyinjuege:


You still didn't answer the question I asked.
I know for sure in Nigeria, as a Nigerian we have very rude, annoying people on the roads. If you drive, you can be sure to get into road rage on the roads. If you also take public transport, its a no brainer that your ox will definitely be gored. Its unavoidable.
By both men, and women.
My question again- how many of these annoying, rude, crazy people on the roads have you slapped?

KhalDroggo:


Don't need to go through your post again. Just going through your vomit once was bad enough, but I'll summarise your main point so you'll understand how mindless it is: Your position is that a man is typically level-headed but society should not judge him harshly if he loses his calm and beats a woman to stupor for merely saying something that he doesn't like. And for you, there is nothing wrong with this. The question is, would a man be that bold if it were another man who used abusive language towards him? Especially if that other man is bigger and stronger than him? So why would he be justified for using the same methods against a woman? Try your argument out in the civilised world and you'll be amazed at how ridiculous it sounds because such ideas have no place in any civilised community.

coolcatty:



And how many women run their putrid mouth on their female bosses?...female soldiers and policemen?...heck they don't even run their mouth at their tailors and hair stylist..so why run it on their husband that provides for them?

it's just like my wife now,running her mouth at me when I know and have witnessed how she is so so scared of her immediate boss..even stammers when she answers his calls.....a small boy that is not my mate in anything academically and financially...then tomorrow society expects me to walk away when she hits me.....who will pay for my emotional and psychological trauma?

Take time and go through what the OP posted...most of u just comment whatever u think will help u garner likes from ignorant people..... Bet u are not married....never being in a relationship sef..........the society is just moroniic and tends to support a woman even when she denigrates her husband......I have friends that have very provocative women as wives...mwomen with no iota of respect for their husband....just running their ungrateful tap they call a mouth.....causing immense emotional and psychological trauma to the man.....men suffer domestic violence too.

And if any if my female relations raise her hands first to hit her husband,I will regard the man as the biggest fooool on earth if he doesn't retaliate.

Rubbish... What lousy morals are we teaching our young ones self?