site review plsss http://educationexpong.com/index.php

1) Hitting "submit" on contact and registeration page, without filling out anything, the page submits. No validation at all. Also, strange grey lines appear at the top of the page

2) Your logo is part flash, part image. In FF, because you are doing slices there, it looks disjointed, like a wave or broken bone.

3) Photo gallery page has huge gap at the top

4) I translated the page I was on from English to German but couldn't find English in the dropdown to re-translate back to English.

5) On "about us", strange circles (probably bullet images) are showing beside options and are showing outside of the content well.

6) "Download Flyer" image/link not working. Same with news/updates (and probably others)

7) Still using tables (for non-tabular data), image maps, multiple " " and spacer gifs in 2010?

Verdict:
Layout good, Functionality bad

I will just comment on the design and layout!
Hey golden that's a lovely site you have there i really like the way u have used white and green and the floral sticky background! One thing i noticed is that on the header you have used flash and an image. This normally appears broken on firefox. So for the sake of the firefox die-hards i would recommend you put everything on the header in flash + menu or you could have the swf + image in flash then have the menu come at the bottom.
All in all I LOVE IT!

The background will look better if that grey solid rectangle is removed. What's its use? It doesnt blend into the header or the site at any point.

okay golden for the new year, i fink am impress with what you doing, you've improved how ever i like d webby but try to hear my two col. what they have said aside that for me, thumbs up.

Apart from the functionality shit, and other stuffs u said thats true, i have a problem with one part of ur comment that has to do with multiple &nbsp, i don't think thats an issue, it can be used, as far at it creates no bug and its a way to get off sone shits of html

Thanks

Donpuzo:

Apart from the functionality poo, and other stuffs u said thats true, i have a problem with one part of your comment that has to do with multiple &nbsp, i don't think thats an issue, it can be used, as far at it creates no bug and its a way to get off sone shits of html

Thanks

Totally agree with you on that one.

@yawa tables are here to stay

Donpozu, infinity:
They may be hear to stay but it doesn't mean they are here to be abused. Some prefer to sleep on a bed of nails while others prefer to sleep on a bed of roses but all na bed right?

Using the above, especially if not done for good reason could lead to page bloat, pages not rendering consistently across all browsers/devices etc. For non-breaking spaces, why not use paddings and margins in CSS? If not displaying tabular data, why not use DIVs or FIELDSETs?

Again, Some prefer to sleep on a bed of nails while others prefer to sleep on a bed of roses. The choice is yours.

inf8nity:

@yawa tables are here to stay

For entire site design (excluding the presentation of tabular data)
Tables are for boys
DIVs (with the collabo xHtml and CSS), for men.

You either hit it like a boy or like a man.
Solely your choice.
Either ways, something's getting hit. But how good is the object feeling?
That'll depend on who was hitting. . .  the boy or the man.

For entire site design (excluding the presentation of tabular data)
Tables are for boys
DIVs (with the collabo xHtml and CSS), for men.

You either hit it like a boy or like a man.
Solely your choice.
Either ways, something's getting hit. But how good is the object feeling?
That'll depend on who was hitting. . . the boy or the man.

You are totally entitled to your opinion

and to my money maker too.
Most def

Dual Core:

and to my money maker too.
Most def

In the end the client doesn't care whether you used divs or tables as long she loves the site and pays well! do what you do.

inf8nity:

In the end the client doesn't care whether you used divs or tables as long she loves the site and pays well! do what you do.

I care about professionalism and conformity to standards and moving trends.
I really havnt built a site with what the client cares about my coding patterns at the back of my head.


Hey, I wonno do sturvs that will make my kids Hi5 and go. . . "damn dad rocks, he laid the eff'ing pips right"

same same as always, my opinions.

inf8nity:

as long she loves the site and pays well! do what you do.

friggin perve

I had to do that in reply to ur man and [b]boy [/b]thing

In the end the client doesn't care whether you used divs or tables as long she loves the site and pays well! do what you do.

Very bad attitude to have. That's like saying, "some people get to work on a bike while other walk. The boss doesn't care as long as they both get there, that's all that matters." They forget that the person who walks will be sweaty, smelly, tired and have a poor work attitude. It's also like saying, "some people serve a tennis ball at 10kph while others serve at 50kph. It doesn't matter as in the end, the ball still crosses the net. " They forget that the person who serves at a higher speed stands a better chance of hitting an ace.

This isn't a matter of opinion but a matter of FACT. People have been paid and some have made a lot of money doing the research to come up with reasons why we as (supposedly) professionals should do things a certain way. There are issues like page weight, browser consistency, usability (have you ever listened in on a screenreader before?), etc to deal with.

Oh well, as I said earlier, some prefer to lie on a bed of nails while others prefer to lie on a bed of roses. In the end, if we go to sleep at night, we all wake up in the morning right?

Now forcing yourself to create divs where you could easily do tables is laying on a bed of nails!

Css gladly broke us free from bondage, and we have stubbornly refused to let go of the cuffs

P.S: a bed of nails could be fun with the right babe

P.S: a bed of nails could be fun with the right babe

You are one weird/sick freak

am a newbbie in the coding game but i can confidently say that css is worth learning. why use table for layout, and of course thanks to the house

@Yawa, use of &nbsp and divs is different, just like dual said, i say any webdesigner who doesn't know how to use css sucks and of course in using css knowledge of div, id, span, class and all those are the tags used to comunicate with the style shit, css is a tread that is wonderful and most of all it avoids use off much silly table, but that does not take away the use of tables where neccesary and also the *nbsp thing can't be said as unproffesional.

Thanks

I dunno where all the &nbsp started from though but pardon me if i'm just bumping into the convo.

What I am about to say is solely my opinion which has been refined overtime from experience and never ending learning.

Web designers misuse tables just the same way they misuse &nbsp

Personally its a turn off for me to check someone's source codes and i'm seeing

<p>Hey will you marry me? </p>

&nbsp
&nbsp
&nbsp
&nbsp
&nbsp
&nbsp
&nbsp

<h3>abeg naaaa! </h3>

This is just unprofessional.

Why can't the
be used?
Why cant padding and margins be used?
Why can't the "spacer.gif" trick be used (if u dunno how to css your way out)?

I mean these are neater sturvs that get the job done across all important browsers.

This was me, 3 years ago

  <td width="18%" height="36" background="images/rightgrad.jpg" valign="top">&nbsp;<p><BODY>

<SCRIPT SRC="calendar.js"></SCRIPT>
&nbsp;</p>
          <p>&nbsp;</p>
          <p>&nbsp;</p>
          <p>&nbsp;</p>
          <p>&nbsp;</p>
          <p>&nbsp;</p>
          <p>&nbsp;</p>          </td>
        </tr>
      </table>      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td width="780" height="45" valign="top" colspan="2" background="images/bottom1.jpg">
      <p style="margin-top: 15; margin-bottom: 0" align="center"><b><font face="Verdana" size="1"><a href="profile.htm" style="text-decoration: none"><font color="#000000">About Us</font></a>|&nbsp; <a href="contact.htm" style="text-decoration: none"> <font color="#000000">Contact Us&nbsp;</font></a>&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="index.htm" style="text-decoration: none"><font color="#000000">Home</font></a></font></b>     
      <p style="margin-top: 15" align="center"><img src="images/signaturee.jpg" width="170" height="30"></td>
    </tr>


This is me now

<script type="text/javascript" src="scripts/accordion.js"></script>
</head>

<body>
<div id="container">
<div id="header"></div>
<div class="nav_bar"><ul>
<li><a href="index.php">Home</a></li>
<li><a href="profile.htm">Profile</a></li>
<li><a href="services.htm">Services</a></li>
<li><a href="projects.htm">Projects</a></li>
<li><a href="statements.htm">Statements</a></li>
<li><a href="contact.htm">Contact</a></li>
</ul></div>
<div id="links">

<h4 class="carts"><?php echo $title_1?></h4>
<div class="subs">
<?php echo $content_1; ?>
</div>


see? I'm growing! 

4 years back the &nbsp was like a savior cuz i didnt know how else to jump to the next line and create some space between.

I remember how frustrating it was for me to be in dreamweaver and anytime i hit enter to take me to a new line, it creates a big gap between lines. Then i'll have to go down to formatting properties and change something there to "performatted" then yada yada. . . oh dreamweaver design view, i could sue Adobe for wasting a part of my lifetime 


This would be me in 2030
1110101011010101010101010101010101011110000101001001101100101

BML (Binary Markup Language)

Ya i get your point, i don't think anyone will use
&nbsp to replace a
tag and any person will be dumb enough to write tags this wayL:

&nbsp
&nbsp
&nbsp
if he knows a
is right for it.

The debate is one a example like<p>Hello&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp i HONESTLY LOVE YOU!!!</p>

See, its better to use nbsp here than any other convention!!!

Thanks, Expecting ur help once again on my last mail to you

Donpuzo:

The debate is one a example like[b]<p>Hello&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp i HONESTLY LOVE YOU!!!</p>[/b]

<p><span style="padding-right:30px">Hello</span> I HONESTLY LOVE YOU!!!</p>

Its neater, its 2010'er, and you command more respect from anyone (company or individual) viewing your source and from the browser too.


as per the mail, i'll mail you tomorrow.

@Yawa, use of &nbsp and divs is different, just like dual said

i don't think anyone will use
&nbsp to replace a
tag and any person will be dumb enough to write tags this way

Are you sure about that? Have you seen some of the sites up for review here lately?

The debate is one a example like<p>Hello&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp i HONESTLY LOVE YOU!!!</p>

See, its better to use nbsp here than any other convention!!!

Actually, no it is not. Dual's approach is best

Dual, you make me laugh, see, this is also against another convention, that says all styling should be sent to a style sheet, so let stick to the fact that a &nbsp is ok as long as it follow the way i tagged it, and complex or more styistic poo's be left for the css, cause the use of this wil prompt and error if validated ona xhtml validator and far from it, &nbsp is not a depricated tag!!!

Donpuzo:

Dual, you make me laugh, see, this is also against another convention, that says all styling should be sent to a style sheet,

Are you kidding me? Who in W3C's name set that as a convention?
Then what happens to inline CSS?

@yawa, don't mind me, gramatical error, due to the fact i am batling with coding and also trying to re orient u guys,

No shit people, like dual should guess, i spent too long a time learning html, css and javascript, i meanmastery of them, that i don't know how to place seesion variables

By convention, styling and positioning should be left for CSS to handle.
CSS can present itself in 3 forms, as far as i know

External,
Internal and
Inline

Specificity is used to determine who gets the meat, should there be any conflict among them 3.

Seriously, i used it in my site, and validated on CSE HTML VALIDATOR v7.0 and it said i have already declared an external style rule and inline is wrong although it cam out as an advice to be xhtml compliant rather than a warning of wrong tags,

Although such taging aint wrong, but, still stick to the fact that nbsp aint wrong but if u are as brilliant as dual and wanna be proffesional as yawa, go by duals way!!!!

Its not my way, its convention and best practice.

ok sir , lol,