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Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by ilynem(m): 4:01pm On May 28, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI:Sir, I think you should Google "satanic logos" and you will shocked at what you see. Almost everything from Chrome, to Walt Disney, to Vodafone, to coca cola, to even the google you are using to search are all rumored to be satanic. Do we stop using all these things? |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by WotzupNG: 6:08pm On May 28, 2017 |
ilynem:Jesus and Paul were doubted but we're not found with son nor promoting the dark Kingdom knowingly or unknowingly. If you continue being led by these questionable men, then you won't be able to work out your salvation Who are the enemies of the church? The men who are trying to hijack the body of Christ are part of that group. |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by ilynem(m): 8:03pm On May 28, 2017 |
WotzupNG:Sir, I kindly advice you Google "satanic logos". I bet even the phone you are using has one. Does that mean you aren't filled with the Holy spirit? And looking at it from the outside, everyone is questionable. Also, I feel you are expecting perfection from this men, which is absolutely not fair because they are humans. No Pastor leads anyone to Christ. They simply show the way, and your journey from there on is personal. 1 Like |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by efficiencie(m): 1:39am On May 29, 2017 |
if your judgment of these men is anchored on their use of designs whose etymology is rooted in satanic origins, then I assure you that more than 80% of Christians around the world are guilty of your accusation of these two men of God and you might very well be guilty of your own accusation...nevertheless you must realize the kind of God Christians serve. This was the same GOD that created one wife for one man but didn't destroy David when he married the wives and daughters of Saul (2Samuel12:7-8; 1Samuel18;20). This was the same GOD that outlawed coming in contact with faeces yet HE told Ezekiel to cook his food with faeces as a sign (Deuteronomy 23;12-14; Ezekiel 4:12). This is the same GOD that struck Uzziah for offering incense in the Temple but was not wrath with David who ordered for the ephod though he wasn't a priest, wasn't ceremonially clean and wasn't of the priesthood tribe of Levi (2Chronicles 26;18-19; 1Samuel30;7-8 )... Let us be wary of the LORD GOD and let your judgments be based on REVELATIONS FROM CHRIST and not carnal evidences...that you may not fall victim of the same PUNISHMENT Miriam fell into when she based her judgment on carnal evidences (Numbers 12;1-11)!!! |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by TPAND(f): 4:44am On May 29, 2017 |
Because my pastor wears Versace and yours can't afford, that makes the Holy Spirit not in him |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Topgainer: 7:54am On May 29, 2017 |
efficiencie:Miriam story again! How many have you seen today? I have heard statements like the ones you spewed up there from Nigerian Prophets and men of gods who will not want their evil deeds questioned. It is obvious you sat for long under such men and at this point in your life you have not understood there is a difference between Christianity and the 6/7th book of Moses inspired ministration of Nigeria false prophets and bishops. Have you thought of the origin of the popular 'enemy die by fire, fall and die, curses and threatening people, extortionist sermons and much emphasis on money? Christians are licensed by the teachings of Christ, the letters of the Apostles and boldness from above to confront and expose the unfruitful works of darkness anywhere they may be found. The moment Bishop Oyedepo, Bishop ODM Kpokwevwe, Prophet Rev King Ezeugo etc begin to associate with unfruitful works of darkness, they will be exposed by Christians, no hiding place in the old testament or in stories like that of Miriam. WotzupNG:Op, as much as it is part of it, it is not sufficient to label people satanic because of the products they use. I will rather focus on their conducts mainly and preaching partly. The duo of Prophet Biodun and Apostle Johnson have no resemblance to Jesus in either sermon or conducts. They themselves know the source codes they are using to hoodwink their followers. |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by efficiencie(m): 8:10pm On May 29, 2017 |
Topgainer: Brother! you are not GOD! You did not call them or certify them fit to minister! More importantly, you are not under any obligation to worship at the denominations that these men run. All i am pointing out is that GOD is a spirit, his affairs are spiritual, His evidences are based on the spiritual and His methods are spiritual and this makes GOD and His affairs usually intractable as far as scientific observation and deduction is concerned. While i am not alluding to the justification of whatever these men of GOD have done, I am only saying that if any accusation of these people is to be done and done right it must be grounded on spiritual evidence alone and if such an evidence is not available one runs the risk of stepping on GOD's toes by maligning them even if they appear wrong or are indeed wrong... 1 Like |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by gwama: 8:25pm On May 29, 2017 |
Good subject, I have always decried the heads of Medusa that this pastor Biodun carried, and that does not shock his faithful, really he is not a pastor, he is a worshiper of satan. When I also noticed that Apostle Johnson Suleman had also worn shoes with this logos, really I was discouraged, should I give false to his detractors? If you want to wear luxurious clothes "branded", there are many prestigious brands other than Versace that do not represent the devil as visibly. A little wisdom Men of God. |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Nobody: 9:22pm On May 29, 2017 |
Scatterscatter: U are terribly right They might not have that knowledge of wot the logo stands for not everyone does. Many christians wearing even the common jeans of versace dont. I got to know it though long time ago tru The Clash of the Titans movie. |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by gwama: 9:23pm On May 29, 2017 |
Scatterscatter: When somebody is a spiritual leader, he must be very careful with his image, it is very important. I myself am a simple Christian, I pay attention to my image when I go out, I do not wear mini skirts, I look at the symbolic printed fabrics before buying them ... etc. If being the religious leader, they wear the medusa-headed clothings voluntarily, I question their spirituality. I can conclude that they are wolves disguised as lambs. |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by gwama: 9:32pm On May 29, 2017 |
softwerk: You can make wit with this subject, but it's a reality brother , it's not normal for religious leaders to wear this satanics symbols. |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Nobody: 9:49pm On May 29, 2017 |
Dear brother, How are you today, and how was work too. I read your post with a little smile at the corner of my mouth. And I know you made this comment and observation witha sincere heart but that does not make it right in anyway. The head of Medusa is evil truely and it may not look good for a Christian to knowingly put such on either as a logo on cloth or jewellery. But bro. if you would like to know there are many symbols of the Devil in the world that me and you dont know of. And thats a fact. One Symbol ppl wear on cloth and on jewellries is the Star of David. And judging by the name b you would think it shouldn't be evil, But do u know its one of logos of the ocult? The normal Star has five sides but Star of David has Six. I can put it to you that if you bring all your clothes, shoes, jewelries and appliances out you must find one of these Evil signs on some. Why? We are living in an evil world being controlled by the forces of darkness and we cant do anything to change it. Do u know some currencies of some countries bear some of this signs Either made conspicuous or hidden. Would that make you reject such money when you travel across the globe or refuse to put them in your pocket or wallet. Yeye dey smell Even on the tiny labels of your shirts behind your neck may have some. The essence of this long epistle is to let you know that wearing such does not make you a child of the devil especially wen you dont know the meaning of what it stands for. So these men of God might not know. Now even if they are aware of its meaning, wearing such doesnt make them evil still but it is only wise for them not to wear such because of ppl that will criticise them like you or those that are not strong in faith so as not to make them fall. The same thing is applicable to eating foods that were offered to gods. A christian is free to eat such because he is aware there is no God but God so why dhould you be afraid of something that doesnt exist. but if you know you might make a baby Christian fall by your action then dont it eat. Finally it might shock you that as you are reading this epistle right now, you have an evil symbol on you or on some things in your house unknowingly. Does that mean you are of the Devil? Your faithfully, Davtosh |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Topgainer: 12:47am On May 30, 2017 |
efficiencie:And where did I say I am God? The bold represents the favourite line of the False prophets and the gods they worship, the psychology of the 'fear me game' they play on the gullibles. Like I said it has its origin in the 6/7 books of Moses, has nothing to do with Christianity or the laws of the spirit of life in Christ. It will not sell here. Your description of God and the Spirit is warped. Stay away from false Prophets and Bishops. Chose between Christianity and Moses; stick to one. It is crystal clear you are dancing around the two. Are you not abusing the word 'Call' like most youths under the bondage of Pentecostalist gods and lords of manor? I have a call has become an Anthem. Every Charlatan, every fraudster, every motivational speaker, every magician, every sorcerer, every occultist, every writer of short stories, every slave of False Bishops, Apostles and Prophets has an aspiration, to threaten people with 'I have a call' like their Masters so 'fear me'. |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by efficiencie(m): 2:35am On May 30, 2017 |
Topgainer: Funny!!! The likes of you would have shot Saul through with a dart of lightning through his chest and never give him the chance to be a Paul if you were in the place of GOD. The likes of you would have lent their support to the sons of thunder to call down fire on the Samaritans (Luke 9:52-59). The likes of you would have shut the door to an ignorant Pharisee (John 3)...It is because of the likes of you that the LORD GOD commanded that the tares be left to grow with the wheat, because the zeal of your narrow introspection would justify rooting out the wheat in the name of eliminating tares...in the end, when you yourself are faced with the scales of equity, the sword of Justice and a blind impartial judge you would be the first to cry for mercy and your zealotry would mock you there and then...I never alluded to or lent my support to any man of GOD and their lifestyle. I only believe that CHRIST is the ultimate judge and HE alone has the moral standing to deem anyone right or wrong and give rewards or sanctions... |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Topgainer: 7:37am On May 30, 2017 |
efficiencie:And where did I talk of rewards or sanctions? Can't you see you and your prophetic Bishop teachers are the comedian here. Are you angry that Prophet Omotosho has been nabbed ( slammed with 22 count charges including sexual assault ) by the South Africa Government who gave no recourse to your senseless standing to deem anyone right or wrong? You forgot, the likes of me are the devils in your little song above. According to you this time, the Prophetic Bishop who corners a teenager for sex rendezvous, who assults a neighbours wife, who spends Church money for a nightout with international prostitutes when the widows abound in his local congregation, should never be told he is wrong because according to you he is a man of gods and others are men of the devils. The propagation of the fear of 'Call' is gaining grounds among Charlatans. Can I know the date you got your own 'Call' and possibly why you think others don't have this immunity 'Call' like you and your ilks. The Bible in my hands has a standing to deem anyone right or wrong, it warned of the fruits of false prophets, the beasts and their multitude of followers. The word of God in your mouth can expose, reprove and denouce evil works of darkness anywhere it is found. The law enforcement agents have a standing to deem right or wrong as well, within the constitution of the land. Brother, stay away from false Prophets and Bishops. Their 'call' will do you no good neither will the fear of them. I observed you abuse bible quotations a lot which is common among pretentious 'callers and callings.' I will not oblidge you with another response. |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Nobody: 7:43am On May 30, 2017 |
Scatterscatter:Don't mind the op.very judgemental |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Nobody: 7:45am On May 30, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI:It will be very difficult to differentiate between fake and original except as revealed by the holy spirit. Even if he reveal it, he's not the author of confusion. |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Nobody: 7:48am On May 30, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI:And you think it's everything the holy spirit reveals? Half of what we use are Satan's material including the media, phones,computer e.t.c |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Nobody: 7:52am On May 30, 2017 |
oweniwe:It's wrong for pastors to wear but members can what an irony. Funny enough Oyakhilome and Suleiman came from the same spiritual father |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Nobody: 7:54am On May 30, 2017 |
ilynem:Good talk. |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Topgainer: 7:58am On May 30, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: I don't think so, the description of the fruits of fake Prophets is crystal clear in the Bible. Go back to your Bible and match the words/actions of the Bishop under your observation. The new testament should be the ultimate reference because some Prophetic Charlatans find solace in digging up blood sacrifices in the old testaments as the authority upon which they do such. Paraphrased "To you Christians, if an angel from heaven comes with a different message apart from the one in delivered to you in the new testament reject it" |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Nobody: 11:08am On May 30, 2017 |
Topgainer:Ask Jesus to open your eyes.Ask him to tell you more because Lucifer knows the Bible and various tricks |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by efficiencie(m): 2:50pm On May 30, 2017 |
Topgainer: On 1 I never alluded to or implied that any one caught breaching the laws of the land of the country he/she inhabits must not be punished according to the same laws of the land. I guess your desire to have me appear wrong permitted you to arrive at such a conclusion. On 2 I never referred to you as a devil, after all the immature sons of thunder were pretty much your ally and Christ did not label them devils! (Luke 9:52-56 ) On 3 So the two men of GOD who happen to be the bone of contention were caught by YOU committing the heinous acts you so carefully listed above...well if of a truth they did these and the LORD exposes them their very deeds will revile them and their actions will chastise them because the light will be prove it... (John 3:19-20 ) On 4 I never spoke of having a call and neither did i assign immunity to those who claim they have a call...after all the young prophet was called by GOD to do HIS bidding but he failed and got punished by HIM who called the prophet (1Kings 13). On 5 Oh yes, pretty much as the Law of the LORD GOD was in the hands of the pharisees who caught a lady in a punishable act and made bold to stone her to death...I think JESUS CHRIST would have received a lot of tongue lashing from your YOUR ROYAL "SCRIPTURENESS" for sparing that guilty lady! (John 8 ) On 6 Funny!!! you don't know me yet you already conclude that I patronize and fear false prophets, bishops; abuse bible quotations and pretentious...thank GOD you are not GOD! Jude saw well, when he prophesied of people who use their tongue the way you do (Jude 1:8 )! Are you sure you don't want to oblige me with another response? |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by Topgainer: 5:12pm On May 30, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: That's not my point. I said it is not difficult for anybody who has the Bible as reference to detect the false Prophets and Bishops. One doesn't really need another 'open' eyes to see what is in the open as such as a Book itemizing the Characters to watch out for in a false Bishop. Do you need an open eye to know that a man that calls himself a Killing Prophet with specialty in eliminating enemies of people for a token is a native doctor? Well, unless one is under a spell which is common among the Prophet talknados and bishops |
Re: These 2 Nigerian Pastors Don’t Have The Holy Spirit In Them by oaroloye(m): 4:32am On Jun 01, 2017 |
WotzupNG: You are a HYPOCRITE for quoting PAUL to JUDGE people for using PERISHABLE OBJECTS which HE JUSTIFIED. |
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