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Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by mansmith(m): 8:31pm On Jan 22, 2010 |
in their absence is it not possible that their agents can do their dirty jobs for them as seen i intercontinental bank,abia state etc |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by biina: 9:21pm On Jan 22, 2010 |
coolG:Tenure limits guards against engendering poor corporate governance, by limiting the duration of effect. Else why do we have limited tenure in political office? why not let them be voted out by the populace? while I agree that some people who could still be productive will be cut short, the risk is not worth the reward. It gives room for the injection of fresh blood and new ideas and not the stagnation that comes from unlimited tenure.The banking sector should be supervised defensively and not left to run amok like the cabal they have in the US. The interest of depositors should be ahead of the personal gain of the shareholder. It is not the responsibility of the CBN to make sure that a bank is making the most profit posiible, but rather that depositor are protected from poor management. So there should be no northerners in banking again? People say sanusi has ulterior motive aka northern agenda, I have only asked that you provide evidence that any of the distressed bank are now in the hands of the northerners (by stating how many), and not if there were any northerners in the first place. It has never been a lack of policy but rather a supervisory oversight that allowed for the level of corruption in those banks. Still policy changes on such as check limits, narration on interbank transfer, information disclosure in financial statements etc all will make for a more transparent sector that will inhibit future corrupt practices. The enactment of a law does not stop crime, but the enforcement dissuades future offenders. Without prove, you have decided that it is aimed solely at those two. How does Jim Ovia being a bank CEO affect Sanusi? The CBN has not said that the move is because those banks are distressed, but rather that it is better for the system if CEOs dont remain in office indefinitely. Under the current guise, a majority shareholder can remain CEO for life and act in a manner that favors the shareholders (which in this case is mainly himself) at the expense of the depositors. The alternate solution is to bar anyone from having substantial shares in a bank, and I feel that would be unfair and moreso will likely require a review of the company act. The likes of Ovia can still own their banks and will ave a major say in who replaces them, they have just lost their executive powers. No individula should have a life sway on public funds, be it ina political office or otherwise. If you think I am a northerner or pro north, then you are gravely mistaken. I just dont subscribe to using the ethnicity argument to make a point. I dont know which comments about Ribadu you are referring to, but for Sanusi, I supported his appointment and subsequent actions, because I feel he is the kind of governor the CBN needed. The CBN serves as policy maker but also acts in a supervisory role, and it is the failings in carrying out the latter that has resulted in the mess that we call a banking sector (in fact I was hoping they would sack tunde lemo for his failings). All the increased capitalization carried out by Soludo and his predecessors were like pumping water into a leaking tank. Going forward, I actually think it would be better they split off the supervisory arm of the CBN so that we can have people that head each arm be more suited to their jobs, as we are yet to have one that is rounded in both. As to the Mutallab issue, I at no point approved of his actions, and only wanted the facts made bare before people jumped to conclusions. I am sure you know about the nonexistent weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, or that someone who learnt to fly a bi-plane flew a 747 into the WTC, or all the numerous fictitious black man crimes. I am just not quick to condemn a man on the words of the media nor the US government. Also I do not subscribe to the notion of equating the actions of an individual or handful of people to the desires of an entire ethnic group. It was that line of thinking that led us to the civil war, when the actions of handful of Igbos were equated to the wishes of the entire ethnic group. Most criticize the northerners for it and yet want to apply same MO. Mutallab is responsible for his action, and his immediate family, talk less of the entire northern region should not be held responsible for it, nor should his action be extrapolated beyond himself. People were quick to start generalizing on the issue, when the kid is not even the typical Nigerian, talk less a northerner. It sad that it is only the masses that make issues about ethnicity, while the elites are busy embezzlement our money under the banner of one nation |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by biina: 9:45pm On Jan 22, 2010 |
For those that may feel I am touting Sanusi as being perfect - I am not. I am sure he has his flaws and affiliations like any other human being. In fact I will be shocked if he clamps down on the forex black market which is almost a pure northerners' gig. Rather I am in support of his clearing out the rot in other areas, so that when his tenure is up, his successor (almost surely southerner) will be like him and clear out the remaining rot that Sanusi might have 'overlooked'. I am less interested in the good/bad things you did not do, but in the ones you did. Beyond the rumour mongering and dooms prophecies by some, I have not seen anything inherently inimical in the policies of sanusi. While they might not be the best (as nobody knows it all), they are all a positive step from the status quo. |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by PastorOla1: 9:50am On Jan 23, 2010 |
Before leaving the office Jim Ovia, Tony Elumelu, Akinfemiwa they should be properly Probed not after leaving office only to hear again that any of them have 200 houses pls |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by coolG: 11:50pm On Jan 23, 2010 |
biina: You are partially correct! But it is not only the masses that do that. The elites continue to use ethnicity and religion to hold down their people while they continue to steal. Falau Bello, the CEO of Unity Bank, with all his education believe consolidation of the banks handed economic power to one section of the country. As if the selling of shares pre-consolidation by the banks including over 12 northern banks were done in one section of the country. How does he account for the thousands of northerners who voluntarily chose not to buy shares in some of the erstwhile banks that were historically northern. What's the purpose of his statements? Is it not to incite a section of the country while hiding his incompetence to manage and lead a bank. So, the problem is cultural and pervasive. People always claim they are not bias but everyone has a bias. The only distinguishing factor is whether you can keep your bias out of your decision process most of the times (all of the times is not possible) to do what is right for the country or institution. I always hope for the best for the country. |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by rasputinn(m): 12:01am On Jan 24, 2010 |
yuppydon: This is a pure case of blackmail.Of course Elumelu knows he can challenge the decision in court and will most likely get ba favourable decision,but he'd rather not as he knows how vindictive Sanusi is.Sanusi who knows some shady deals Tony had pulled especially while they were together will most definitely open a can of worms that will embarrass Tony to high heavens,this is why Tony immediately appointed Oduoza to succeed him Too bad that the nations apex bank has been reduced to this Shame on you Sanusi |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by rasputinn(m): 12:04am On Jan 24, 2010 |
The obvious target is Tony Elumelu.Jim Ovia had even planned to resign last year,but had to shelve the idea as he got wind that the CBN was about to sack some bank MDs and he didn't want people to mistake his resignation for a Sanusi sack.The man is quite relieved |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by vislabraye(m): 1:26am On Jan 24, 2010 |
binna , Tolu 10 and , made some very interesting statements. People are always reading tribalism into everything. Whether Sanusi is beig tribalistic or not that would not exonerate the Ibrus and Akingbolas from any misdeeds. The banks are plc, and the largest shareholdres are the public and therefore, the CEOs and/or Managers should be rotatted. Thats what's normally done. Also this strategy is damage control. If you know the lavish livestyle the ousted CEOs ( Ibru and Akingbola ) lived, you would understand his reason for coming up with that law |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by DARA1234: 1:33am On Jan 24, 2010 |
The banks involved are the biggest and best ran in the country, will this decision weaken the banks, will their shares drop, will it reduce public confidence, will this decision do more harm than good?, I think it will. Is there a systemic plan to weaken these banks, |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by biina: 8:07am On Jan 24, 2010 |
coolG:Yes I did make a comparison to political office, as in the same vein that you want a fail safe mechanism to prevent incumbent political office holders manipulating the electoral process to perma-fix himself despite acting against the wishes of the people, you also do not want an individual to entrench himself in the office of a CEO of a bank while his actions are inimical to the depositor funds. If there were no public funds involved, then we can let the shareholders deal with the issue. Tenure limit ensures a change in personnel. A lack of it will result in someone who is the majority shareholder being in office permanently, irrespective of him being biased to the shareholders (himself ) at the expense of depositors. Pre-consolidation, I might have been on the other side, but the with limited number of banks we now have, steps need to taken to safe guard things. Prevention is better than cure. One should be cautious when make relative comparison to foreign nations, as there is a reason we are struggling. The US academia operates a tenure track system, I would not approve of such for Nigerian lectures. The US senator are not tenure limited; I will not approve of such for Nigeria. My question was 'How many are northerners?' and not ' If any were northerners' The question was posed to someone who accused Sanusi of social engineering, and was expecting an answer in support of this. Check limit and narration on interbank transfer will make for a transparent sector that will inhibit future corrupt practices because there will be less money in limbo, thereby increasing transparency. You can check the CBN circulars for details on the policy changes that Sanusi has made. A policy is not enforced if the frauds 'discovered' were not acted upon. The police witnessing a crime does not constitute the enforcement of the law. Your believe is what you have decided is true (or is it not?) Professional jealousy? that would be shocking as Sanusi was MD of one of the largest banks and is currently the CBN governor. The lesser envies the greater. Still one cannot know whats in people's hearts. Banks are not public utilities, nor are they your typical private institution. The shareholders cannot be left to act to protect their own interest at the expense of the depositors. The fact that the CBN ratifies executive appointment is evidence of this. This is simply an extension of that function. I would rather we have a fixed tenure than the CBN vetoing or sacking executives on a case by case basis. This policy will not be a problem for those with diffused shareholders like FBN or UBA as they already have tenure limits. It is those banks that have an individual majority shareholder that will be affected more, and like I said I dont approve of a 'one-man' business being licensed to receive public funds either from the government or directly from depositors. I have heard both sides of the argument, and while some countries have unified entities, others (like the UK) have them split up. We have had the unified approach for a while with little to no success, and I feel we might do better. I would have liked to see what we could achieve with a Soludo+Sanusi, with one making the wholistic plans, while the other carries out the supervision and enforcement. The consolidation of banks was a consequence of increased capitalization requirement. Soludo was not the first to increase bank capitalization nor will he be the last. The problem of the Nigerian banking sector is primarily two fold: poor corporate governance, and, operating in a dead economy. Increased capitalization aims to make more money available for loans, but the Nigerian banks were not suffering from a lack of capital. Rather the problem was that the industry was not productive such that the banks were not guaranteed good returns on the loans. You have to ask yourself, does a big bank make a big economy, or a big economy makes a big bank. In the right economic environment, market forces would have grown the banks capital base, as the likes of FBN were then above the requirement and didn't need any mergers to meet the requirements. The size of a bank does no imply profitability else how do you explain all the big bank in the US that were distressed while several smaller ones were healthy. All we have done is put our eggs in a few baskets and now cannot afford to let them fail. Even the US is now seeking to limit the size of banks so that they will not be held to ransom again in the future. My point wasn't about the religious affiliations of the pilot, but simply that you cannot go from practicing on a 727 low level simulator to pulling the aerial stunts they reportedly carried out. |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by rasputinn(m): 5:19am On Jan 25, 2010 |
vislabraye: Agreed CEOs are rotatted and their tenures can be pegged;normally BUT NOT BY THE CBN,it's purely a shareholders' decision,but because Nigeria is a lawless country,Sanusi can pull stunts like these and get away with it,what makes the situation unfortunate is that the affacted CEOs have soiled hands and are afraid that should they challenge the decision in court or even breathe an atom of dissent in the media(did you see Elumelu's interview in Thisday yesterday,dude was sounding like Sanusi's PR man),then vintage vindictive Sanusi will open their rofo rofo can of worms |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by KukuraontheMove(m): 5:27am On Jan 25, 2010 |
@clintwine Thats a lengthy piece! But its all spot on. We are an interesting study! Our country, that is! |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by aimans: 12:31pm On Jan 27, 2010 |
@ Chuckvyl & Naijaking1 Well,it never stops to amaze me the way Nigerians think.I think our problem could be traced to poverty and poor education.Nigerians attach sentiments to most political and financial issues.Don't get offended guys.But i shall explain.Some people here are comparing Bank CEOs to politicians in terms of 'sitting tight'.What a shame. Well,banks are private companies guys.It is a privately owned company hence CEOs should be determined by shareholders' votes.As a matter of fact,i expect the banks to challenge this in court.This is dictatorial in nature.CBN should not dictate to the shareholders how long they intend to keep a CEO.As a private company,Zenith bank is similar to Dangote Group PLC.Most of those guys who are CEOs are the majority shareholders in the banks.Removing them with this new CBN regulation is similar to asking Dangote to quit as Chairman of Dangote Group.Because both of them are private companies and not government run companies.Reason this critically before you comment.This new CBN law is a shame.It means that Jim Ovia cannot be appointed as CEO of another bank(by shareholders' vote) just because he has served 10 years at Zenith.Ovia has lots of experience in the banking industry.In developed countries people like him are well sought after.A bank that needs his experience should be free to appoint anybody as their CEO.You must not have been a staff of a bank to be appointed as CEO guys.The current CEO of Citi Group was never a staff of Citi Group.This is a draconian law from CBN.There is nothing ethically wrong with a family run bank.We need sound bank policies and regulation Sanusi.This will have no positive effect on the banking industry. Do u guys have financial knowledge? Do you know what it's meant by the term "Financial Institutions" in a country. I guess u do not understand that term. @ Chvckvyl, ur analogy doesnt make a single sense. Every populace of country has, directly or indirectly, a unit of currency with any finanacial institutions operating in that country. Please, go and study some foundamental knowledge of finance & Understanding Financial Institutions in Nigeria. That will help you lots. Why you not canvassing that only Adenuga & his family sholud be banking with Equitorial Trust Bank (ETB)? I guess u'r a family member of Ibru. Now I understand. |
Re: Sanusi Ousts Ovia, Elumelu, Akinfemiwa by coded777: 3:09pm On Jan 30, 2010 |
Does this mean more loss of jobs within and around the said banks? If this would cause some staff their jobs then i see no point in Sanusi's ill move |
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