Wow, pride birth before a fall. Whoever posted this thinks he has mastered Christianity and thus reached the final height of maturity, but you are wrong. Whatever you think you know just open your eyes for let him that think that he stands take heed lest he falls. How can you say there's nothing like grace when we are saved by grace. The very thought of being holy can only be achieved by God's grace. I pray that the holy Spirit will help you.........All this mumbling is due to wrong doctrine and faulty foundation.

bennyann:
I gained a lot from the op

Oaroloye can you please explain further to my own understanding when you say, "there's no such thing as grace"? Please come down to my level I beg and please don't make it lengthy because I'm still trying to go through all the posts here.

This is a humble request and I also have to learn how to go through your posts to the end. Thank you in advance

Bro. I guess he said there's nothing like grace because of its misinterpretation to suit worldly lifestyle of a lot of present-day church goers. Church goers now use grace as excuse to commit abominable sins and live in sordid immorality. Of course there's something called Grace; it is God's divine ability to help you resist sin(this is just one of the functions of Grace). The people of the old testament struggled to please God as they didn't have the spirit of God resident in them. But now by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in u, He who raised Jesus from the dead shall quicken your mortal bodies Rom. 8:11. Brother I cannot explain Grace without it being lengthy; but just know that there is grace. We are saved and sustained by grace. Grace is not a tool for imaginary righteousness but a divine assistance for salvation and righteous living.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

There are people who were known to be strong-in-Faith in the past- but NOW their Faith can no longer do anything. the reasons for this are not obvious.

That is to say, the TRUE reasons. There are "USUAL SUSPECT" Reasons for "FAITH-FAILURE," which are immediately taken to be the cause namely SIN and UNBELIEF.

If those are eliminated, most people cannot "think outside the box" and come up with other reasons.

(1) UNFORGIVENESS.

.   MARK 11:12-14, 20-26.

12. And on the morrow,
when they had come from Bethany,
he was hungry;
13. And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves,
he went to see
if perhaps he might find
any thing thereon.
But when he came to it
he found nothing but leaves,
for the time for figs
was not yet.

14. And Jesus spoke
and said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And His Disciples heard it.

20. And in the morning
as they passed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

"Master, behold,
the fig tree which thou cursedst
is withered away."

22. And Jesus answering
saith unto him,

"Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I say unto you,

'THAT WHOSOEVER
SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,

"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU
CAST INTO THE SEA;"

AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO PASS;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'

24. "Therefore I say unto you,

'WHAT THINGS SOEVER
YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'

25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have ought against any:
that your Father also,
Which is in Heaven
may forgive you your Trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your Trespasses."

THIS used to be an "obvious;" however, the prevalence of "VENGEANCE-PRAYING"  shows that this factor is largely forgotten. The Servant of Yahshua has no right to pray for others to come to harm.

What they have done to earn our "Righteous Wrath" is insignificant.

Unless you never Sinned your entire life, you have to forgive whoever offended you.

No "IFS," "ANDS," nor "BUTS."

(2) FAILURE TO INTERCEDE FOR ENEMIES AND STRANGERS.

.   MATTHEW 5:38-48.

38. "Ye have heard that it hath been said,

'AN EYE FOR AN EYE,
AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.'

39. "But I say unto you,

'THAT YE RESIST NOT EVIL:
BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL
SMITE THEE ON THY RIGHT CHEEK,
TURN TO HIM
THE OTHER ALSO.'

40. "And if any man will sue thee at The Law,
and take away thy coat,
let him have (thy) cloke also.
41. "And whosoever shall compel thee
to go a mile,
go with him twain.
42. "Give to him that asketh thee,
and from him that would borrow of thee
turn not thou away.
43. "Ye have heard that it hath been said,

'THOU SHALT LOVE
THY NEIGHBOUR
AND HATE
THINE ENEMY.'

44. "But I say unto you,

'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES,
BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU,
DO GOOD TO THEM
THAT HATE YOU,
AND PRAY FOR THEM
WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU
AND PERSECUTE YOU.'

45. "That ye may be
the Children of your Father
Which is in Heaven:
for He maketh His Sun
to rise on the Evil
and on the Good,
and sendeth Rain
on the Just
and on the Unjust.
46. "For if ye love them
which love you,
what Reward have ye?
Do not even the Publicans
the same?
47. "And if ye salute
your Brethren only,
what do ye more (than others)
Do not even the Publicans so?
48. "Be ye therefore Perfect,
even as your Father
Which is in Heaven
is Perfect."

Prayer for people whom we LIKE is EASY.

However, we do not do it of our own FREE WILL.

Our AFFINITY FOR them MAKES us do things for them.

PRAYING FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT US IS HARD FOR THE HYPOCRITE.

A person who TRULY BELIEVES THE TRUE GOSPEL has NO PROBLEM doing THINGS THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND- just because they FEAR GOD. After they have OBEYED the incomprehensible Commandment, THEN Understanding comes.

But the HYPOCRITE has NO QUALMS about NOT PRAYING for their ENEMIES, nor for TOTAL STRANGERS.

Therefore, their WILLPOWER LEVEL is DICTATED by THE EARTH- that is, THE NATURAL.

It becomes USELESS for SUPERNATURAL Operations.

(3) "GRACE" DOCTRINE: IMAGINARY RIGHTEOUSNESS.

.  JOHN 15:1-15.

"I AM The True Vine,
and my Father is
The Husbandman.
2. "Every branch in me
that beareth not fruit
He Taketh Away:
and every (branch)
that beareth fruit,
He Purgeth it,
that it may bring forth
more fruit.
3. "Now ye are clean
through The Word
which I have spoken
unto you.
4. "Abide in me, and I in you.
As the branch cannot
bear fruit of itself,
except it abide in the vine;
no more can ye,
except ye abide in me.
5. "I am The Vine,
ye are The Branches:

'HE THAT ABIDETH IN ME,
AND IN HIM,
THE SAME BRINGETH FORTH
MUCH FRUIT:'

for without me
ye can do nothing.
6. "If a man abide not in me,
he is cast forth as a branch,
and is withered;
and men gather them,
and cast (them) into The Fire,
and they are burned.
7. "If ye abide in me,
and my Words abide in you,
ye shall ask what ye will,
and it shall be done
unto you.
8. "Herein is my Father Glorified,

'THAT YE BEAR MUCH FRUIT;'

so shall ye be my Disciples.
9. As the Father hath loved me,
so have I loved you:
continue ye in my Love.
10. "If ye keep my Commandments,
ye shall abide in my Love;
even as I have kept
my Father's Commandments,
and abide in his Love.
11. "These things
have I spoken unto you,
that my Joy might remain in you,
and that your Joy
might be full.
12. "This is my Commandment,

'THAT YE LOVE ONE ANOTHER
AS I HAVE LOVED YOU.'

13. "Greater Love
hath no man than this,

'THAT A MAN
LAY DOWN HIS LIFE
FOR HIS FRIENDS.'

14. "Ye are my Friends,
if ye do whatsoever
I Command you.
15. "Henceforth I call you not Servants;
for the servant knoweth not
what his lord doeth:
but I have called you Friends;
for all things
that I have heard of my Father
I have made known
unto you."

There is NO SUCH THING AS "GRACE."

Anything you Pray for, or Command, you must EARN THE RIGHT TO RECEIVE.

"JESUS PAID IT ALL!" is a THEORY- which HE never preached, therefore it is NOT in The Gospel.

It is all about the Anointing. You are right in saying that you must earn the right to receive. The Anointing is not cheap.

K

Op how can you preach with one breath and then abuse with the other. Our faith doesn't work the same way it's unique to your understanding, life lessons, walk with Christ and the obstacles we face that deepen your faith in God it is not tied to another's in a sense that you cannot condemn others that their faith is dead because yours is working though we may worship the same God.

Brother Oaroloye;

I'll be responding to your posts one after the other. I took the pain of going thru all of them even tho' they're lengthy.

I beg that you consider your readers and make it at least, a bit shorter but carrying all the intended messages you intend to convey.


Seeing that you consider the Apostles as astrayed fellows, I'll mind the way I quote from the Epistles.

My Aim ultimately is to show you how The Apostles' Teachings corresponds with the Teachings of the Lord Jesus.

Your point 3: "there's no such thing as Grace" is in direct conflict with John 1:17.

"for The Law was given by Moses, but GRACE and Truth came by Jesus Christ"

Here, we're informed plainly that Jesus Brought 'GRACE and Truth' to mankind.

esere826:
"the reason your faith no longer works"
??

That is not a reasonable sentence construction. |It's like saying "the reason your jump no longer jumps"

Faith works.
If its not working, then its no faith in the first place.
You'r probably trying to say
.... "the reason your hope no longer works"
or
... "the reason your hope no longer leads to faith".

In a bid to correct you err.

Hope doesn't lead to faith. If faith is not working then you need to find out why hence the question the op asked.

Paulipopor:


In a bid to correct you err.

Hope doesn't lead to faith. If faith is not working then you need to find out why hence the question the op asked.

Dude, you still don't get it, do you
It's simple English i wrote in, not some vernacular.
And because you chose to engage in an ego fight, you persist in misinformation as is clear in your writting.

I'll leave you with Proverbs 15: 32 "He who refuses correction despises his own soul, but he who listens to reproof gets understanding"

esere826:


Dude, you still don't get it, do you
It's simple English i wrote in, not some vernacular.
And because you chose to engage in an ego fight, you persist in misinformation as is clear in your writting.

I'll leave you with Proverbs 15: 32 "He who refuses correction despises his own soul, but he who listens to reproof gets understanding"

Proverbs 15: 32 "He who refuses correction despises his own soul, but he who listens to reproof gets understanding"

SHALOM!

MrPresident1:
Jesus Christ and Paul Christ.

OP, you cannot discredit Paul, Jesus and Paul are one.

You are lying deliberately, otherwise, you would show proof.

(1) PAUL DISAGREED WITH YAHSHUA ABOUT THE CRITERIA OF SALVATION.

.     MATTHEW 7:12-29.

21. "Not every one
that saith unto me,
'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into
The Kingdom of Heaven;
but He that doeth
The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22    Many will say to me
in That Day,

'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?'

23. "And then will I profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'

.     ROMANS 10:13.

13. Whosoever calls upon the Name of the LORD
shall be Saved.

(2) PAUL DISOBEYED THE LORD'S COMMANDMENT AGAINST TELLING MEN THAT HE WAS THE CHRIST.

.     MATTHEW 16:20.

20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus The Christ.

.     ACTS 9:22.

22. But Saul increased the more in strength,
and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus,
proving that this is very Christ.

(3) PAUL SERVED TWO MASTERS.

.      MATTHEW 6:24.

24. "No man can serve two masters:
for either he will hate the one,
and love the other;
or else he will hold to the one,
and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and mammon."


. ROMANS 7:22-25.

22. For I delight in The Law of God after the inward man:
23. But I see another Law
in my members,
warring against
The Law of my Mind,
and bringing me into captivity
to The Law of Sin
which is in my members.
24. O wretched man that I am!
Who shall deliver me
from the Body of this Death?
25. I thank God
through Jesus Christ our Lord.
So then with the Mind
I myself serve The Law of God;
but with the Flesh the Law of Sin.

(5) PAUL PREACHED A DIFFERENT GOSPEL FROM LORD YAHSHUA.

.      MATTHEW 24:14,35.

14. "And This Gospel of The Kingdom
shall be preached in all the World
for a Witness unto all Nations;
and then shall The End come."
35. "Heaven and Earth shall pass away,
but my Words shall not pass away."

(6) PAUL DISAGREED WITH LORD YAHSHUA ON THE ORIGIN OF SINFULNES.

.      MATTHEW 24:14,35.

12. Then came his Disciples,
and said unto him,

"Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended,
after they heard this Saying?"

13. But he answered and said,

"Every plant,
which my Heavenly Father hath not planted,
shall be rooted up.
14. "Let them alone:
they be blind leaders of the blind.
And if the blind lead the blind,
both shall fall into the ditch."

16. And Jesus said,

"Are ye also yet without understanding?
17. "Do not ye yet understand,
that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth
goeth into the belly,
and is cast out into the draught?
18. "But those things which proceed
out of the mouth
come forth from the heart;
and they defile the man.
19. "For out of the heart proceed
Evil Thoughts, Murders,
Adulteries, Fornications,
Thefts, False Witness, Blasphemies:
20. "These are the things which defile a man:
but to eat with unwashen hands
efileth not a man."


. ROMANS 7:7-25.

7. What shall we say then? Is the Law Sin?
God forbid. Nay, I had not known Sin, but by The Law:
for I had not known lust, except The Law had said,

"THOU SHALT NOT COVET."

8. But Sin,
taking occasion by the Commandment,
wrought in me all manner of concupiscence.
For without The Law Sin was dead.
9. For I was alive without The Law once:
but when The Commandment came,
Sin revived, and I died.
10. And The Commandment,
Which was ordained to life,
I found to be unto Death.
11. For Sin, taking occasion by the Commandment,
deceived me, and by it slew me.
12. Wherefore The Law is Holy,
and the Commandment Holy,
and Just, and Good.
13. Was then that which is Good
made Death unto me?
God forbid.
But Sin, that it might appear Sin,
working Death in me
by that which is Good;
that Sin by the Commandment
might become exceeding Sinful.
14. For we know that The Law is Spiritual:
but I am Carnal, sold under Sin.
15. For that which I do I allow not:
for what I would, that do I not;
but what I hate, that do I.
16. If then I do that which I would not,
I consent unto The Law that it is good.
17. Now then it is no more I that do it,
but Sin that dwelleth in me.
18. For I know that in me
[that is, in my Flesh,]
dwelleth no good thing:
for to Will is present with me;
but how to perform that which is Good
I find not.
19. For the Good that I would I do not:
but the Evil which I would not, that I do.
20. Now if I do that I would not,
it is no more I that do it,
but Sin that dwelleth in me.
21. I find then a Law, that,
when I would do Good,
Evil is present with me.
22. For I delight in The Law of God after the inward man:
23. But I see another Law
in my members,
warring against
The Law of my Mind,
and bringing me into captivity
to The Law of Sin
which is in my members.
24. O wretched man that I am!
Who shall deliver me
from the Body of this Death?
25. I thank God
through Jesus Christ our Lord.
So then with the Mind
I myself serve The Law of God;
but with the Flesh the Law of Sin.

(7) PAUL  REJECTED LORD YAHSHUA'S CONDEMNATION OF PHARISEEISM.

.    MATTHEW 23:23.

23. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
For ye pay Tithe of Mint
and Anise and Cummin,
and have omitted
the weightier matters of the Law,
Judgment, Mercy, and Faith:
these ought ye to have done,
and not to leave the other undone.
24. "Ye Blind Guides,
which strain at a gnat,
and swallow a camel.
25. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
For ye make clean the outside
of the cup and of the platter,
but within they are
full of extortion and excess.
26. "Thou blind Pharisee,
cleanse first that
which is within the cup and platter,
that the outside of them
may be clean also.
27. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
For ye are like unto
whited sepulchres,
which indeed
appear beautiful outward,
but are within
full of Dead Men's Bones,
and of all uncleanness.
28. "Even so ye also
outwardly appear Righteous
unto men,
but within ye are
full of Hypocrisy and Iniquity.
29. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
Because ye build
the tombs of the Prophets,
and garnish
the sepulchres of the Righteous,
30. "And say,

'IF WE HAD BEEN
IN THE DAYS OF OUR FATHERS,
WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN
PARTAKERS WITH THEM
IN THE BLOOD OF THE PROPHETS.'

31. "Wherefore ye be
Witnesses unto yourselves,
that ye are the Children of them
which killed the Prophets.
32. "Fill ye up then
the Measure of your Fathers.
33. "Ye Serpents,
ye Generation of Vipers,
how can ye escape
The Damnation of Hell?"


. ACTS 23:1-10.

AND Paul, earnestly
beholding the Council,
said,

"Men and Brethren,
I have lived
in all Good Conscience
before God until this day."

2. And the High Priest Ananias
commanded them
that stood by him
to smite him on the mouth.
3. Then said Paul unto him,

"God shall smite thee,
thou whited wall:
for sittest thou to judge me
after The Law,
and commandest me
to be smitten contrary
to The Law?"

4. And they that stood by said,

"Revilest thou God's High Priest?"

5. Then said Paul,

"I wist not, Brethren,
that he was the High Priest:
for it is written,

'THOU SHALT NOT SPEAK EVIL
OF THE RULER OF THY PEOPLE.' "

6. But when Paul perceived
that the one part were Sadducees,
and the other Pharisees,
he cried out in the Council,

"Men and Brethren,
I am a Pharisee,
the son of a Pharisee:
of The Hope and Resurrection
of the Dead I am called in question."

7. And when he had so said,
there arose a dissension
between the Pharisees and the Sadducees:
and the multitude was divided.
8. For the Sadducees say
that there is no Resurrection,
neither Angel,
nor spirit:
but the Pharisees confess both.
9. And there arose a great cry:
and the scribes that were
of the Pharisees' part arose,
and strove,
saying,

"We find no evil in this man:
but if a Spirit or an Angel
hath spoken to him,
let us not fight against God."

10. And when there arose
a great dissension,
the Chief Captain,
fearing lest Paul should have been
pulled in pieces of them,
commanded the soldiers to go down,
and to take him by force
from among them,
and to bring him into the castle.

( 8 ) PAUL RECOGNIZED THE PHARISEES AS HIS BRETHREN YAHSHUA DID NOT.

.      MATTHEW 12:46-50.

46. While he yet talked to the people,
behold, his mother and his brethren stood without,
desiring to speak with him.
47. Then one said unto him,

"Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without,
desiring to speak with thee."

48. But he answered and said unto him that told him,

"Who is my mother?
And who are my brethren?"

49. And he stretched forth his hand toward his Disciples,
and said,

"Behold my mother and my brethren!"
50. "For whosoever shall do The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven, the same is
my brother, and sister, and mother."

. ACTS 23:1,6.

AND Paul, earnestly
beholding the Council,
said,

"Men and Brethren,
I have lived
in all Good Conscience
before God until this day."

6. But when Paul perceived
that the one part were Sadducees,
and the other Pharisees,
he cried out in the Council,

"Men and Brethren,
I am a Pharisee,
the son of a Pharisee:
of The Hope and Resurrection
of the Dead I am called in question."

(9) PAUL SANCTIONED THE CLERGY LORD YAHSHUA FORBADE..

.     MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his Disciples,
2. Saying,

"The scribes and the Pharisees
sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever
they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye after their works:
for they say,
and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves
will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works
they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders
of their garments,
6. "And love the uppermost
rooms at Feasts,
and the Chief Seats
in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called Rabbi:
for one is your Master,
even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father
upon the Earth:
for One is your Father,
Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters:
for one is your Master,
even Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself
shall be abased;
and he that shall humble himself
shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites!
For ye shut up the Kingdom of Heaven
against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye
them that are entering
to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites!
For ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence
make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive
the greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites!
For ye compass sea and land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made,
ye make him twofold more
the Child of Hell
than yourselves."

.     EPHESIANS 4:11-16.

11. And he gave some, Apostles;
and some, Prophets;
and some, Evangelists;
and some, Pastors and Teachers;
12. For the Perfecting of the Saints,
for the work of the Ministry,
for the Edifying of the Body of Christ:
13. Till we all come in the Unity of the Faith,
and of The Knowledge of the Son of God,
unto a Perfect Man,
unto the measure of the stature
of the fulness of Christ:
14. That we henceforth be no more Children,
tossed to and fro,
and carried about with every Wind of Doctrine,
by the Sleight of Men,
and cunning craftiness,
whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15. But speaking The Truth in Love,
may grow up into him in all things,
which is the Head, even Christ:
16. From whom the whole body fitly joined together
and compacted by that which every joint supplieth,
according to the Effectual Working
in the measure of every part,
maketh increase of the Body
unto the edifying of Itself in Love.

MrPresident1:
Jesus Christ and Paul Christ.

OP, you cannot discredit Paul, Jesus and Paul are one.

You are lying deliberately, otherwise, you would show proof.

(10) PAUL DESPISED LORD YAHSHUA'S COMMANDMENT ON THE FATHERHOOD OF GOD.

. MATTHEW 23:9.

9. "And call no man your father
upon the Earth:
for One is your Father,
Which is in Heaven. "

. ACTS 23:6.

"Men and Brethren,
I am a Pharisee,
the son of a Pharisee:
of The Hope and Resurrection
of the Dead I am called in question."

(11) PAUL DESPISED LORD YAHSHUA'S COMMANDMENT TO BLESS AND PRAY FOR ENEMIES.

. MATTHEW 23:9.

9. "And call no man your father
upon the Earth:
for One is your Father,
Which is in Heaven. "

. ACTS 23:1-5.

[color=#990000]AND Paul, earnestly
beholding the Council,
said,

"Men and Brethren,
I have lived
in all Good Conscience
before God until this day."

2. And the High Priest Ananias
commanded them
that stood by him
to smite him on the mouth.
3. Then said Paul unto him,

"God shall smite thee,
thou whited wall:
for sittest thou to judge me
after The Law,
and commandest me
to be smitten contrary
to The Law?"

4. And they that stood by said,

"Revilest thou God's High Priest?"

5. Then said Paul,

"I wist not, Brethren,
that he was the High Priest:
for it is written,

'THOU SHALT NOT SPEAK EVIL
OF THE RULER OF THY PEOPLE.' "

. MATTHEW 5:38-48.

38. "Ye have heard
that it hath been said,

'AN EYE FOR AN EYE,
AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH:'

39. "But I say unto you,

'THAT YE RESIST NOT EVIL:
BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL SMITE THEE
ON THY RIGHT CHEEK,
TURN TO HIM
THE OTHER ALSO.'

40. "And if any man
will sue thee at the Law,
and take away thy coat,
let him have thy cloke also.
41. "And whosoever shall compel thee
to go a mile,
go with him twain.
42. "Give to him that asketh thee,
and from him that would
borrow of thee
turn not thou away.
43. "Ye have heard that it hath been said,

'THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR,
AND HATE THINE ENEMY.'

44. "But I say unto you,

'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES,
BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU,
DO GOOD TO THEM THAT HATE YOU,
AND PRAY FOR THEM
WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU,
AND PERSECUTE YOU;'

45. "That ye may be The Children
of your Father Which is in Heaven:
for He maketh His Sun to rise
on the Evil and on the Good,
and sendeth rain on the Just
and on the Unjust.
46. "For if ye love them which love you,
what Reward have ye?
Do not even the publicans the same?
47. "And if ye salute your Brethren only,
what do ye more than others?
Do not even the publicans so?
48. "Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father
Which is in Heaven is Perfect."

(12) PAUL COMMANDEERED THE CHIEFEST SEAT IN THE HIGHEST ROOM IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his Disciples,
2. Saying,

"The scribes and the Pharisees
sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever
they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye after their works:
for they say,
and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves
will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works
they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders
of their garments,
6. "And love the uppermost
rooms at Feasts,
and the Chief Seats
in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called Rabbi:
for one is your Master,
even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
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LUKE 14:7-11.

7. And he put forth a Parable
to those which were bidden,
when he marked how
they chose out the Chief Rooms;
saying unto them,
8. "When thou art bidden
of any man to a wedding,
sit not down in the Highest Room;
lest a more honourable man than thou
be bidden of him;
9. "And he that bade thee and him
come and say to thee,

'GIVE THIS MAN PLACE;'

and thou begin with shame
to take the Lowest Room.
10. "But when thou art bidden,
go and sit down
in the Lowest Room;
that when he
that bade thee cometh,
he may say unto thee,

'FRIEND, GO UP HIGHER:'

then shalt thou have worship
in the presence of them
that sit at meat with thee.
11. "For whosoever exalteth himself
shall be abased;
and he that humbleth himself
shall be exalted."

. EPHESIANS 2:1-9.

AND you hath he quickened,
who were dead in Trespasses and Dins;
2. Wherein in time past
ye walked according to the Course of this World,
according to the Prince of the Power of the Air,
the Spirit that now worketh in the Children of Disobedience:
3. Among whom also we all had our Conversation
in times past in the Lusts of our Flesh,
fulfilling the Desires of the Flesh and of the Mind;
and were by nature the Children of Wrath,
even as others.
4. But God,
Who is Rich in Mercy,
for His Great Love wherewith He loved us,
5. Even when we were dead in Sins,
hath quickened us together with Christ,
[by grace ye are saved;]
6. And hath raised us up together,
and made us sit together
in Heavenly Places in Christ Jesus:
7. That in the ages to come
He might shew the Exceeding Riches of His Grace
in His Kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8. For by Grace are ye Saved through Faith;
and that not of yourselves:
It is the Gift of God:
9. Not of Works,
lest any man should boast.

PAUL USED EXTRAVAGANT RHETORIC AND FLATTERY TO SEDUCE IGNORANT BELIEVERS, WHO COULD NOT KNOW LORD YAHSHUA'S ACTUAL TEACHINGS THAT HE WAS CONTRADICTING- BECAUSE HE, PAUL, HAD PERSONALLY KILLED ALL THOSE DISCIPLES WILLING TO TELL THEM!

Inspite of the highly respected organization, The Religious Monitoring Group's findings many years ago, This demented agent Bronchitis Oaroloye and his Handler, FAKE PASTOR Chris Okotie continued in their SATANIC MISSION to destroy the SCOAN Church.

Now that the undercover agent named here as Bronchitis Oaroloye, of the dreaded Pentecostal PFN & CFAN has been exposed, it it would be correct to say that their 30 year long vicious campaign to destroy the SCOAN Church Nigeria has failed. His Handler Pastor Chris Okotie has now abandoned undercover agent Bronchitis Oaroloye to his own devices.

READ A BRIEF EXTRACT FROM THE RELIGIOUS MONITOR GROUP'S FINDINGS :

We, as an independent organization devoted to the study of the doctrine, mode of worship, preaching, teaching and practice of religious bodies and Church organizations in Nigeria have focused our attention to the recent unwarranted attack and allegations against Pastor T. B. Joshua of The Synagogue Church of all Nations and Pastor Chris Oyakhilome of the Love World Assembly a.k.a Christ Embassy as published recently in various magazines and newspapers among which are Encomium magazine, Treasure magazine, This day Newspaper and City People magazine and lately, your magazine Charisma and Christian life.

At our request, both the Lagos State and Federal Government of Nigeria carried out thorough and extensive investigation of all the allegations through the use of State investigative network. Result of the Government investigation revealed that there was no substance in the Pastor Chris Okotie’s and the Pentecostal fellowship allegations against Pastor T. B. Joshua as a result of which the Government pronounced verdict of innocence.

Pastor T. B. Joshua has been found to be very upright and righteous and has received the true anointing of the Holy Spirit. The arrival of the true Holy Spirit anointed Pastor into the Nigerian Christian Ministries has been kicking Satan left and right, and the kingdom of Satan has been badly damaged.

The people fighting and accusing Pastor T. B. Joshua are in this category. They are the false and fortune seeker Pastors. Such as Chris Okotie and some of his fellow Pentecostal fellowship of Nigeria members. They are not actually fighting Pastor T. B. Joshua, they are fighting the happenings of holy spiritual hearings at the Synagogue. They are fighting the miracles of God happening at the Synagogue. The hearings and miracles taken place at the Synagogue can only be by the anointing of the Holy Spirit of God. This has challenged the kingdom of Satan in Nigeria and has threatened their survival and existence. The fellow Pastors threatened are the one fighting to protect their interest and survival. Unfortunately, it is too late for them. (I would like to add that the undercover agent OAROLOYE is gravely threatened by now that SATAN's kingdom is crumbling.

The influx of foreign missionaries, President of Nations and dignitaries from all over the world to the Synagogue is as a result of this true anointing. The hearings and miracles according to Pastor T. B. Joshua is not the work of his own hand but his father THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
The miracles and hearings are received free and all the thousands of various missionaries from all over the world on pilgrimage to Synagogue are accommodated free with feeding as no one pays for anything at the Synagogue.
No endowment fund, no development fund, no special contribution and no extortion is allowed at the Synagogue as practiced by other Pentecostal Churches through which the founders and general overseers enrich themselves.

SHALOM!

solasoulmusic:
Op how can you preach with one breath and then abuse with the other.

I am authorized to tread on Serpents and Scorpions, you Hypocrite!

Our faith doesn't work the same way it's unique to your understanding, life lessons, walk with Christ

You LIAR!

What "FAITH" have YOU, when you piously talk about "WALKING WITH CHRIST," trying to pretend to be a CHRISTIAN?

. MATTHEW 16:20.

20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus The Christ.

. MATTHEW 28:16-20.

16. Then the Eleven Disciples
went away into Galilee,
into a mountain where
Jesus had appointed them.
17. And when they saw him,
they worshipped him:
but some doubted.
18. And Jesus came
and spake unto them,
Saying,

"All Power is given unto me
in Heaven and in Earth.
19. "Go ye therefore,
and Teach all Nations,
baptizing them in
The Name of the Father,
and of The Son,
and of The Holy Ghost:
20. "Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have Commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway,
even unto The End of The World."
Amen.

WHAT HAPPENED?

At what point did the Words of Yahshua become UNIMPORTANT to you, that you can boast of "WALKING WITH CHRIST?"

You could not OBEY Yahshua's LEAST Commandment; how could you possibly care about his OTHER Teaching?

and the obstacles we face that deepen your faith in God

ONLY A FOOL would accept a Doctrine that says that "OBSTACLES DEEPEN FAITH!"

. MARK 4:36-41.

36. And when they had sent away the multitude,
hey took him even as he was in the ship.
And there were also with him other little ships.
37. And there arose a great storm of wind,
and the waves beat into the ship,
so that it was now full.
38. And he was in the hinder part of the ship,
asleep on a pillow: and they awake him,
and say unto him,

"Master, carest thou not that we perish?"

39. And he arose, and rebuked the wind,
and said unto the sea,

"Peace, be still."

And the wind ceased,
and there was a great calm.
40. And he said unto them,

"Why are ye so fearful?
How is it that ye have no Faith?"

41. And they feared exceedingly,
and said one to another,

"What manner of man is this,
that even the wind and the sea obey him?"

CAN YOU SHOW HOW THE OBSTACLES CONFRONTED DEEPENED THE DISCIPLES' FAITH?

. MARK 9:14-29.

14. And when he came to his Disciples,
he saw a great multitude about them,
and the scribes questioning with them.
15. And straightway all the people,
when they beheld him,
were greatly amazed,
and running to him saluted him.
16. And he asked the scribes,

"What question ye with them?"

17. And one of the multitude answered and said,

"Master, I have brought unto thee my son,
which hath a dumb spirit;"

18. And wheresoever he taketh him,
he teareth him:
and he foameth,
and gnasheth with his teeth,
and pineth away:
and I spake to thy Disciples
that they should cast him out;
and they could not."

19. He answereth him,
and saith,

"O Faithless Generation,
how long shall I be with you?
How long shall I suffer you?
Bring him unto me."

20. And they brought him unto him:
and when he saw him,
straightway the spirit tare him;
and he fell on the ground,
and wallowed foaming.
21. And he asked his father,

"How long is it ago since this came unto him?"

And he said,

"Of a child.
22. And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire,
nd into the waters,
to destroy him:
but if thou canst do any thing,
have compassion on us,
and help us."

23. Jesus said unto him,

"If thou canst believe,
all things are possible to him that believeth."

24. And straightway the father of the child cried out,
and said with tears,

"Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief."

25. When Jesus saw that the people came running together,
he rebuked the foul spirit,
saying unto him,

"Thou dumb and deaf spirit,
I charge thee, come out of him,
and enter no more into him."

26. And the spirit cried,
and rent him sore,
and came out of him:
and he was as one dead;
insomuch that many said,

"He is dead."

27. But Jesus took him by the hand,
and lifted him up;
and he arose.
28. And when he was come into the house,
his disciples asked him privately,

"Why could not we cast him out?"

29. And he said unto them,

"This kind can come forth by nothing,
but by Prayer and Fasting."

CAN YOU SHOW HOW THIS OBSTACLE "DEEPENED" ANYONE'S FAITH?

Acts 7:55-60

. MARK 9:14-29.

55. But he, being full of the Holy Ghost,
looked up stedfastly into Heaven,
and saw the gGory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56. And said, Behold, I see the Heavens opened,
and the Son of Man standing on the Right Hand of God."

57. Then they cried out with a loud voice,
and stopped their ears,
and ran upon him with one accord,
58. And cast him out of the city,
and stoned him:
and the witnesses laid down their clothes
at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
59. And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God,
and saying,

"Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

60. And he kneeled down,
and cried with a loud voice,

"Lord, lay not this Sin to their charge."

And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

CAN YOU PLEASE SHOW WHOSE FAITH WAS "DEEPENED" HERE?

it is not tied to another's in a sense that you cannot condemn others that their faith is dead because yours is working though we may worship the same God.

WHY NOT?

When FAITH can only "DIE" by ONE route!

. JOHN 15:1-8.

"I AM The True Vine,
and my Father is The Husbandman.
2. "Every branch in me
that beareth not Fruit
He taketh away:
and every branch
that beareth Fruit,
He purgeth it,
that it may bring forth
more Fruit.
3. "Now ye are clean
through the Word
Which I have spoken unto you.
4. "Abide in me, and I in you.
As the branch cannot
bear fruit of itself,
except it abide in the vine;
no more can ye,
except ye abide in me.
5. "I am the Vine,
ye are the Branches:

'HE THAT ABIDETH IN ME
AND I IN HIM,
THE SAME BRINGETH FORTH
MUCH FRUIT:'

for without me ye can do Nothing.
6. "If a man abide not in me,
he is cast forth as a branch,
and is withered;
and men gather them,
and cast them into the Fire,
and they are burned.
7. "If ye abide in me,
and my Words abide in you,
ye shall ask what ye will,
and it shall be done unto you.
8. "Herein is my Father Glorified,

'THAT YE BEAR MUCH FRUIT.'

THE ONLY WAY A CHRISTIAN CAN LOSE THEIR FAITH IS BY NOT ABIDING IN THE LORD!

This must be condemned to the utmost, as is the DUTY of the Righteous.


. LEVITICUS 19:11-18.

11. "Ye shall not steal,
neither deal falsely,
neither lie one to another.
12. "And ye shall not swear
by My Name falsely,
neither shalt thou profane
The Name of thy God:
I am The LORD.
13. "Thou shalt not
Defraud thy Neighbour,
neither Rob him:
the Wages of him that is Hired
shall not abide with thee
all night until the morning.
14. "Thou shalt not Curse the Deaf,
nor put a Stumblingblock before the Blind,
but shalt fear thy God:
I am The LORD.
15. "Ye shall do no
Unrighteousness in Judgment:
thou shalt not Respect
the Person of the Poor,
nor Honour the Person of the Mighty:
but in Righteousness shalt thou
judge thy Neighbour.
16. "Thou shalt not go up and down
as a Talebearer among thy people:
neither shalt thou stand against
the Blood of thy Neighbour:
I am The LORD.
17. "Thou shalt not Hate thy Brother
in thine heart:
thou shalt in any wise
rebuke thy Neighbour,
and not suffer Sin upon him.
18. "Thou shalt not Avenge,
nor bear any Grudge
against the Children of thy people,
but thou shalt Love thy Neighbour
as thyself:
I am The LORD."

. MATTHEW 18:15-20

15. "Moreover if thy Brother
shall trespass against thee,
go and tell him his fault
between thee and him alone:
if he shall hear thee,
thou hast gained thy Brother.
16. "But if he will not hear thee,
then take with thee one or two more,

'THAT IN THE MOUTH
OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES
EVERY WORD
MAY BE ESTABLISHED.'

17. "And if he shall neglect to hear them,
tell it unto the Church:
but if he neglect to hear the Church,
let him be unto thee
as an Heathen man and a Publican.
18. "Verily I say unto you,

'WHATSOEVER YE SHALL
BIND ON EARTH
SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN:
AND WHATSOEVER YE SHALL
LOOSE ON EARTH
SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.'

19. "Again I say unto you,

'THAT IF TWO OF YOU
SHALL AGREE ON EARTH
AS TOUCHING ANY THING
THAT THEY SHALL ASK,
IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM
OF MY FATHER
WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'

20. "For where two or three
are gathered together in my Name,
there am I in the midst of them."

IT IS THE DUTY OF BRETHREN TO KNOW WHEN ONE OF THEM IS IN ERROR, AND TO CORRECT THEM.

It is the DUTY of Brethren to ACCEPT CORRECTION INSTANTLY, and not HIDE under EXCUSES and PLAY ON IGNORANCE.

. MATTHEW 5:38-48.

38. "Ye have heard
that it hath been said,

'AN EYE FOR AN EYE,
AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH:'

39. "But I say unto you,

'THAT YE RESIST NOT EVIL:
BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL SMITE THEE
ON THY RIGHT CHEEK,
TURN TO HIM
THE OTHER ALSO.'

40. "And if any man
will sue thee at the Law,
and take away thy coat,
let him have thy cloke also.
41. "And whosoever shall compel thee
to go a mile,
go with him twain.
42. "Give to him that asketh thee,
and from him that would
borrow of thee
turn not thou away.
43. "Ye have heard that it hath been said,

'THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR,
AND HATE THINE ENEMY.'

44. "But I say unto you,

'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES,
BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU,
DO GOOD TO THEM THAT HATE YOU,
AND PRAY FOR THEM
WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU,
AND PERSECUTE YOU;'

45. "That ye may be The Children
of your Father Which is in Heaven:
for He maketh His Sun to rise
on the Evil and on the Good,
and sendeth rain on the Just
and on the Unjust.
46. "For if ye love them which love you,
what Reward have ye?
Do not even the publicans the same?
47. "And if ye salute your Brethren only,
what do ye more than others?
Do not even the publicans so?
48. "Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father
Which is in Heaven is Perfect."

THE TRUE CHRISTIAN DOES NOT WANT TO BE AN IMPEDIMENT TO THE CHURCH, AMD WILL IMMEDIATELY CONFESS WHERE THEY ARE WRONG.

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH specifically, and Her satellites, have INFILTRATED Protestant Churches as FALSE BRETHREN, in order to DELIBERATELY obstruct and disrupt TRUE WORSHIP OF GOD.

. DEUTERONOMY 25:13-16.

13. Thou shalt not
have in thy bag divers weights,
a great and a small.
14. Thou shalt not have
in thine house divers measures,
a great and a small.
15. But thou shalt have
a perfect and just weight,
a perfect and just measure
shalt thou have:
that thy days may be
lengthened in the land
which the LORD thy God
giveth thee.
16. For all that do such things,
and all that do unrighteously,
are an Abomination
unto The LORD thy God.

. DEUTERONOMY 27:24.

18. Cursed be he
that maketh the blind
to wander out of the way.
And all the people shall say, "Amen."

THEREFORE, NO CHRISTIAN HAS ANY EXCUSE FOR NOT BEING VIGILANT, AND TESTING EVERYTHING THEY ARE TOLD, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR ERRORS.
. MATTHEW 12:41-45.

41. "The men of Nineveh shall rise
in Judgment with this Generation, and shall condemn it:
because they repented at the preaching of Jonas;
and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The queen of the South shall rise up
in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it:
for she came from the uttermost parts of the Earth
to hear the Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold,
a greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'

and when he is come, he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he, and taketh with himself
seven other spirits more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also unto this Wicked Generation."

. JOHN 3:14-21.

14. "And as Moses lifted up
the serpent in the wilderness,
even so must The Son of Man be lifted up:
15. "That whosoever believeth in him
should not Perish,
but have Eternal Life.
16. "For God so loved the World,
that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not Perish,
but have Everlasting Life.
17. "For God sent not His Son into the World
to condemn the World;
but that the World
through him might be Saved.
18. "He that believeth on him
is not Condemned:
but he that believeth not
is Condemned already,
because he hath not believed
in the Name of The Only Begotten Son of God.
19. "And this is The Condemnation,

'THAT LIGHT IS COME
INTO THE WORLD,
AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS
RATHER THAN LIGHT,
BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS
WERE EVIL.'

20. "For every one that doeth Evil
hateth the Light,
neither cometh to The Light,
lest his deeds should be reproved.
21. "But he that doeth Truth
cometh to The Light,
that his deeds may be made manifest,
that they are wrought in God."

ANYONE WITH THE LEAST BY THE WAY OF WISDOM, COMES TO THE LORD YAHSHUA, TO LEARN WHAT THEY MUST DO TO BE SAVED.

This is as SIMPLE, or as COMPLICATED as you are.

By their bitterness we shall know them you give Christianity a bad name running around online condemning people I have bared and will continue to bare more fruit than you or your generations can ever imagine you think I am like you with pride

I serve a living God who does not boast or condemn but unites us in love everyday regardless of if we have money

Why didn't Zachariah shout to the streets but instead climb buildings to see Christ we should aim to be Christlike honestly so all your nonsense wasn't even worth the quote

People like you na SU online in real life a bitter old man

SHALOM!

solasoulmusic:
Op how can you preach with one breath and then abuse with the other.

. MATTHEW 18:1-14.

AT the same time came
the Disciples unto Jesus,
saying,

"Who is the greatest
in The Kingdom of Heaven?"

2. And Jesus called a little child unto him,
and set him in the midst of them,
3. And said,

"Verily I say unto you,

'EXCEPT YE BE CONVERTED,
AND BECOME AS LITTLE CHILDREN,
YE SHALL NOT ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.'

4. "Whosoever therefore
shall humble himself
as this little child,
the same is greatest
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
5. "And whoso shall receive
one such little child
in my Name receiveth me.
6. "But whoso shall offend
one of these little ones
which believe in me,
it were better for him
that a millstone
were hanged about his neck,
and that he were drowned
in the Depth of the Sea.
7. "Woe unto the World
because of Offences!
For it must needs be
that Offences come;
but woe to that man
by whom the Offence cometh!
8. "Wherefore if thy hand
or thy foot offend thee,
cut them off,
and cast them from thee:
it is better for thee
to enter into life
halt or maimed,
rather than having
two hands or two feet
to be cast into Everlasting Fire.
9. "And if thine eye offend thee,
pluck it out,
and cast it from thee:
it is better for thee to enter into life
with one eye,
rather than having two eyes
to be cast into Hell Fire.

10. "Take heed that ye
despise not one
of these little ones;
for I say unto you,

'THAT IN HEAVEN
THEIR ANGELS DO ALWAYS
BEHOLD THE FACE OF MY FATHER
WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'

11. "For the Son of Man
is come to Save
that which was Lost.

12. "How think ye?
If a man have an hundred sheep,
and one of them be gone astray,
doth he not leave the ninety and nine,
and goeth into the mountains,
and seeketh that which is gone astray?
13. "And if so be that he find it,
verily I say unto you,

'HE REJOICETH MORE
OF THAT SHEEP
THAN OF THE NINETY AND NINE
WHICH WENT NOT ASTRAY.'

14. "Even so it is not
The Will of your Father
Which is in Heaven,
that one of these little ones
should perish."

EVERY SIN THAT IS HOLDING YOU BACK, YOU MUST REPENT OF.

If you CAN'T, then you must AMPUTATE whatever BODY PART you are using to commit that Sin.

Aramaic Scholar, GEORGE LAMSA, said that the Lord was using an idiom of their language.

"To pluck out your eye" meant: "STOP COVETING."

"To cut off your hand" meant "STOP STEALING."

"To cut off your foot" meant "STOP COMMITTING ADULTERY."

The FALSE CHRISTIAN PREACHER assures his VICTIMS that they DON'T have to go THAT FAR- that YAHSHUA COULD NOT POSSIBLY MEAN THAT LITERALLY! So that, all you they have to do is utter a TOKEN VERBAL REPENTANCE, which THEY DO NOT NEED TO MEAN- because GOD IS STUPID, and ONLY CARES ABOUT hearing what He wants to hear- JUST LIKE THEM.

That is NOT what they SAY, verbatim- I am PARAPHRASING, of course!

Did you know (I am sure you don't,) that THE BIBLE WAS COMPILED BY A MAN WHO DID EXACTLY THAT?

He had a problem with LUST, so he CASTRATED HIMSELF, to be RIGHTEOUS.

His name was ORIGEN ADAMANTIUS, and he SINGLEHANDEDLY DECIDED which Bible Books were CANON, and which were REJECTED. LOOK. IT. UP.

Any time that you think that you have DONE ENOUGH for God, THINK OF THAT MAN, and FEEL ASHAMED OF YOURSELF!

This is SERIOUS!

The FALSE PREACHER TRUNCATES The Word of God, until WHAT IS LEFT will NEVER FREE YOU.

. JOHN 8:30-32.

30. As he spake these Words,
many believed on him.
31. Then said Jesus to those Jews
which believed on him,
"If ye continue in my Word,
(then) are ye my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall know The Truth,
and The Truth shall make you Free."

IF YOU ARE TAUGHT TO CONTINUE ON TO THE TRUTH, YOU WILL BECOME FREE AS A MATTER OF COURSE.

If you are NOT Taught to CONTINUE IN THE WORD OF YAHSHUA, you WILL have BONDAGES, you WILLhave SINS.

THE CLERGY ARE SPECIFICALLY-TRAINED to KEEP their followers in a CYCLE of RECURRING SIN.

Every Church that uses CLERGY is THE SAME.

They will NEVER WANT THEIR VICTIMD TO KNOW that KEEPING THE TEACHINGS OF YAHSHUA ALONE is what SAVES- and that there is NOTHING that THEY can do for them that THEY cannot do MORE.

If the LAYMEN ever BEGIN TOFIGURE THAT OUT, they are SPECIFICALLY-TRAINED to DELIBERATELY DECEIVE them, with LIES, HALF-TRUTHS, and MISAPPLIED DATA in order to CONFUSE them, and BRING THEM BACK TO THE BELIEF THAT WITHOYT THEM, the CHRIST, the ANOINTED ONE, they can NEVER SUCCEED.

The ANGLICAN BOOK OF COMMON PRAYER allegedly contains a Teaching called THE HOMILY OF OBEDIENCE, in which the Christian is expected to PLEDGE SUBSCRIPTION to the FALSE IDEA that EVERYONE MUST STAY IN THEIR CLASS- Monarchy and Aristocracy must remain RULERS, Peasants must remain LABOURERS, and that it is SACRILEGE to even THINK of CHANGING it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiW_l848t8

(See: 0:58 - 1:02 hour.)

. PROVERBS 26:24-28.

24. He that hateth
Dissembleth with his lips,
and layeth up Deceit within him;
25. When he speaketh fair,
believe him not
for there are seven Abominations
in his heart.
26. Whose hatred
is covered by Deceit,
his wickedness shall be shewed
before the whole Congregation.
27. Whoso diggeth a Pit
shall fall therein:
and he that rolleth a stone,
it will return upon him.
28. A Lying Tongue hateth those
that are afflicted by it;
and a Flattering Mouth worketh Ruin.

ANYBODY WHO DOES NOT DISCLOSE WHICH CHURCH THEY REPRESENT IS OBVIOUSLY AN AGENT, IN MY OPINION.

Why would a Christian be ashamed of their own Church?

I tell people up-front, that I am a Born Again, Full-Gospel, Pentecostal Christian, not affiliated with any Organized Church, and I believe also in Teachings from NAGUALISM, SCIENTOLOGY, and THE CELESTINE PROPHECY.

If that detracts from my credibility- it does not so much as reduce my credibility to Ground Level, so much that it...well, digs a HOLE, of at least six foot depth- SO BE IT.

I am not going to have SECRET BELIEFS you only learn after your millionth Dollar of Donation, or tenth year of service, or something. If you want my CLOAK, you vpcan have my COAT, too. I only believe in what is COMPATIBLE with THE GOSPEL- and these people- L. RON HUBBARD, CARLOS CASTANEDA, and JAMES REDFIELD, have Testimony that CONFIRMS The Gospel.

That is ALL I need from them, and is all that is useful.

But the CLERGYMEN other Christians follow?

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Do you question the SOURCES of THEIR Doctrines?

Did you KNOW that they have NO RIGHT to be PRIESTS or PASTORS?

Do you KNOW when they teach you things in DIRECT CONTRADICTION to Lord YAHSHUA'S Teachings?

Do you think that GOD is in your Church, DESPITE the FALSE DOCTRINES, and despite OTHER FALSE CHRISTIANS in the Congregation?

Of COURSE you do or you DID, before I informed you of your errors.

Do you still believe that NOW?

solasoulmusic:
By their bitterness we shall know them

Where is that in THE ENTIRE BIBLE?

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law and The Prophets.
13. "Enter ye in at The Strait Gate:
for wide is the Gate,
and broad is the way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be which go in thereat:
14. "Because strait is the Gate,
and narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life,
and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns,
or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every Good Tree
bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a Corrupt Tree
bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot
bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree
bring forth Good Fruit.
19. "Every tree that
bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down,
and cast into the Fire.
20 Wherefore by their Fruits
ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one
that saith unto me,
'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into
The Kingdom of Heaven;
but He that doeth
The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22 Many will say to me
in That Day,

'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?'

23. "And then will I profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'

24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth Them,
I will liken him unto a Wise Man,
which built his house upon a rock:
25. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell not:
for it was founded upon a rock.
26 . "And every one that heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto a Foolish Man,
which built his house upon the sand:
27. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell:
and great was the fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had ended these Sayings,
the people were astonished
at his Doctrine:
29. For He taught them
as one having authority,
and not as the scribes.

MANY MEDICINES ARE DISTINCTLY BITTER.

You know that a MEDICINE is EXPIRED, when it no longer has a TASTE.

Anyone who violates the sayings of Lord Yahshua is COMMITTING MURDER AND SUICIDE: damn straight I am going around condemning people who do that!

you give Christianity a bad name running around online condemning people

BLESS GOD, I SINCERELY HOPE SO!

I HOPE TO GOD that I have SINGLEHANDELY given CHRISTIANITY the WORST NAME POSSIBLE to Name UNDER HEAVEN!


.. MATTHEW 5:10-20.

10. "Blessed are they
which are Persecuted for Righteousness' sake:
for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
11. "Blessed are ye,
when men shall Revile you,
and Persecute you,
and shall say all manner of Evil
against you Falsely,
for my sake.
12. "Rejoice, and be exceeding glad:
for great is your Reward in Heaven:
for so Persecuted they the Prophets
which were before you.
13. "Ye are the Salt of the Earth:
but if the salt have lost his savour,
wherewith shall it be salted?
It is thenceforth good for nothing,
but to be cast out,
and to be trodden under foot of men.
14. "Ye are the Light of the World.
A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15. "Neither do men light a candle,
and put it under a bushel,
but on a candlestick;
and it giveth light unto
all that are in the house.
16. "Let your light so shine before men,
that they may see your Good Works,
and glorify your Father
Which is in Heaven.
17. "Think not that I am come
to destroy The Law,
or The Prophets:
I am not come to destroy,
but to fulfil.
18. "For verily I say unto you,

'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS,
ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE
SHALL IN NO WISE
PASS FROM THE LAW,
TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'

19. "Whosoever therefore shall break
one of these least Commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called the least
in the Kingdom of Heaven:
but whosoever shall do and teach them,
the same shall be called great
in the Kingdom of Heaven.
20. "For I say unto you,

'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
SHALL EXCEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS
OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' "

No Preacher of THE GOSPEL OF LORD YAHSHUA can POSSIBLY have a "GOOD NAME" amongst those who REJECT YAHSHUA, REFUSE HIS TEACHINGS, and HATE GOD!

If that is a LIE, show us how- you LYING COWARD!

. JOHN 15:17-27.

17. "These things I Command you,
that ye love one another.
18. "If the World hate you,
ye know that it hated me
before it hated you.
19. "If ye were of the World,
the World would love his own:
but because ye are not of the World,
but I have Chosen you out of the World,
therefore the World hateth you.
20. Remember the word that I said unto you,

'THE SERVANT IS NOT GREATER THAN HIS LORD,'

If they have persecuted me,
they will also persecute you;
if they have kept my Saying,
they will keep yours also.
21. "But all these things will they do unto you
for my Name's sake,
because they know not Him That sent me.
22. "If I had not come and spoken unto them,
they had not had Sin:
but now they have no cloke for their Sin.
23. "He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
24. "If I had not done among them
The Works which none other man did,
they had not had Sin:
but now have they both seen and hated
both me and my Father.
25. "But this cometh to pass,
that the word might be fulfilled
that is written in their Law,[/color]

'THEY HATED ME
WITHOUT A CAUSE.'

26. "But when The Comforter is come,
Whom I will send unto you from the Father,
even the Spirit of Truth,
Which proceedeth from The Father,
He shall testify of me:
27. "And ye also shall bear witness,
because ye have been with me
From The Beginning."

I have bared

(The correct term you should have used is "BORNE."

and will continue to bare more fruit

(The correct term you should have used is "BEAR.)

than you or your generations can ever imagine you think I am like you with pride

Since there is a complete failure of punctuation here, it would be presumptuous of me to try to interpret your statement.

If you had friends, they would have helped you out.

I serve a living God who does not boast or condemn but unites us in love everyday regardless of if we have money

Assuming I am interpreting this statement correctly, I think you just said that you serve a "LIVING GOD," Who does not "BOAST," nor "CONDEMN."

If you mean "YAHWEH GOD," you are LYING about SERVING HIM.

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You are NOT serving HIM, nor His Son, Yahshua.

YAHWEH GOD does NOTHING ELSE BUT "BOAST" AND "CONDEMN!"

Or can you show me and other NAIRALANDERS where He has EVER Said ANYTHING From The Beginning that was NOT BOASTFUL, and did NOT CONDEMN?

You cannot, of course.

Why didn't Lazarus shout to the streets but instead climb buildings to see Christ we should aim to be Christlike honestly so all your nonsense wasn't even worth the quote

People like you do not know anything in The Bible that you were not taught. How you know that that is not EXACTLY what Lazarus did, after Lord Yahshua RESURRECTED him from the dead, the fourth day?

. JOHN 12:9-11.

9. Much people of the Jews therefore
knew that he was there:
and they came not for Jesus' sake only,
but that they might see Lazarus also,
whom he had raised from the dead.
10. But the Chief Priests consulted
that they might put Lazarus also to death;
11. Because that by reason of him
many of the Jews went away,
and believed on Jesus.

People like you na SU online in real life a bitter old man

I take whatever recommendations I can get, positive or negative.

But everyone will be accountable to God for every idle word they may speak!

It's people like you and your attitude that leave me clinging to Gods word , his voice and his path than Mans

That judgemental attitude is the reason I don't worship on sundays but would rather spend time praising God everyday

I have seen the two faced so called christians do more harm than good sometimes. They are christians on paper but in spirit they are filled with hate. I would much rather develop without that as it never got anyone further as the Bible clearly states.

God is going to call his servants to preach his gospel with love and when you hear that call answer it but don't come online and play God

It is the sabbath day my day of rest and thanksgiving not taxation

This guy called Oaroloye is hateful, unapproachable and full of himself. He is repulsive. His attitude and Jesus Christ has nothing in common.

Martinez19:
This guy called Oaroloye is hateful, unapproachable and full of himself. He is repulsive. His attitude and Jesus Christ has nothing in common.

The answer is NOT far at all. He takes every of Jesus' Word literally.

e.g to follow me, "you MUST HATE your father and mother, and yea, even your life"



That's Bad of him. He never study to understand what Lord Jesus Christ really meant/teaches.


This is how he STRAYED away!

@Oaroloye


The simple truth is, you donot understand the Bible.

You mean, Jesus' Words should be taken literally?

Lemme ask you, "do you bury the dead?"

Well, Jesus said to a man who wanted to follow Him, saying, "let the dead bury their dead"

So, I guess you stop burying the dead. Let the body out in the field and rotten up.


Also, Jesus said, "if you want to follow Me, you MUST HATE your father and mother"

Go on and hate your parents.

May God deliver you from this your so-called Gospel. It's sickening!



Jesus charged His Disciples not to disclose His Identity as THE CHRIST, you donot even care to know why He charged them thus. And you think you understand why He gave them that charge, and what He intended to achieve by giving them that instruction?

"with all your gettings, get UNDERSTANDING"

@Oaroloye

If you're interested in a discussion, I plead with you to bring forth your points(against Paul) one after the other, not using bulky notes, and I promise to help explain as many as I can.


But, to start with, DO YOU KNOW WHAT JESUS' MISSION FOR THE LAW WAS?

In Matthew 5:17, He said, " donot think I've come to abolish the Law and the Prophets; I've come to fulfill them"

If you understand what that means, YOU WON'T be insisting or the LAW nor CONDEMNING PAUL's TEACHINGS.

I know you'll also say Paul was wrong for saying, "Christ is the END of the LAW for righteousness to everyone that believes" (Romans 10:4).

I'll Advise you, it's NOT all about quoting LONG BULKY verses, it's about understanding what you quote.

To understand any portion of the Bible, you must explain it so that it does NOT conflict with any verse of the Bible.

Jesus brought 'Grace and Truth' (John 1:17), but you said, "there's NOTHING LIKE GRACE -IT DOESN'T EXIST!"





Think about/cross check again, what you teach.

OP Your lift don't go all the way to the top ! Sir, you are also also two cents short of a Rand !

Why is Bronchitis Oaroloye insulting all the great saints ?
HAVE ANYONE NOTICED THAT APOSTLE PAUL NEVER INSULTED OR CURSED Bronchitis oaroloye ? Bronchitis Oaroloye is using crude DECEPTION to dilute the BELIEVERS Faith in the MIGHTY JESUS. He foolishly believes that he has invented new ways to destroy Christianity
by mixing occultic/ Satanic doctrines with the HOLY GOSPELS

Can someone recommend a clinic for him, he is spewing contagious bronchial fluids all over the holy scriptures.

iSpirit1:
@Oaroloye

If you're interested in a discussion, I plead with you to bring forth your points(against Paul) one after the other, not using bulky notes, and I promise to help explain as many as I can.


But, to start with, DO YOU KNOW WHAT JESUS' MISSION FOR THE LAW WAS?

In Matthew 5:17, He said, " donot think I've come to abolish the Law and the Prophets; I've come to fulfill them"

If you understand what that means, YOU WON'T be insisting or the LAW nor CONDEMNING PAUL's TEACHINGS.

I know you'll also say Paul was wrong for saying, "Christ is the END of the LAW for righteousness to everyone that believes" (Romans 10:4).

I'll Advise you, it's NOT all about quoting LONG BULKY verses, it's about understanding what you quote.

To understand any portion of the Bible, you must explain it so that it does NOT conflict with any verse of the Bible.

Jesus brought 'Grace and Truth' (John 1:17), but you said, "there's NOTHING LIKE GRACE -IT DOESN'T EXIST!"





Think about/cross check again, what you teach.

You have effectively summarized Pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye's serious weakness as a preacher. Unfortunately, he wont learn anything from this because it conflicts with his hidden agenda.

Pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye continuously but unconsciously reveal his severe lack of insight into the holy Gospel. He says in his epistle No.1 on FORGIVENESS that "Unless you never Sinned your entire life, you have to forgive whoever offended you. No "IFS," "ANDS," nor "BUTS."

Haa Ha Lol ! roll on the floor laughter ! Why is Bronchitis ignorant of the perfect example of the one that had no SIN. He forgave those that offended him.

This FAKE pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye is blissfully unaware that he has revealed the real reasons for all the problems he is heaping upon his narrow shoulders. Below is a brief extract from one of his long, long, boooring epistles. Yawn, Yawn !

Bronchitis Oaroloye arrogantly asks, "Why would a Christian be ashamed of their own Church? I tell people up-front, that I am a Born Again, Full-Gospel, Pentecostal Christian, I believe also in Teachings from NAGUALISM, SCIENTOLOGY, and THE CELESTINE PROPHECY."

He arrogantly goes on to say, "If that detracts from my credibility- it does not so much as reduce my credibility to Ground Level, so much that it...well, digs a HOLE, of at least six foot depth- SO BE IT."

Case closed ! Bronchitis Oaroloye is by no measure a Born-again of the Holy Spirit. He boldly proclaimed that he believes in the demonic OCCULTIC teachings of "The CELESTINE PROPHECY." This book is written by an antichrist James Redfield because he rejects the Gospel: that salvation is by Christ alone through repentance from sin and faith in the cross for the forgiveness of sins; James Redfield rejects the Christian faith, and instead preaches a psychic spirituality rooted in religious pluralism.

This is a very deceptive book; it leads men away from Scripture and brings them into a deceiving, demonic spirit world of occultism, witchcraft, psychic-ism, and visions which point to anti-Scriptural concepts (the Ten Insights). I truly believe this book is demonically inspired.

Bronchitis Oaroloye has repeatedly stated, " I tell people up-front, that I am a Born Again, Full-Gospel, Pentecostal Christian, I believe also in Teachings from NAGUALISM, SCIENTOLOGY, and THE CELESTINE PROPHECY."

Bronchitis Oaroloye also gets his FAKE inspirations from NAGUALISM : Don Juan and Castaneda Under don Juan’s tutelage, Castaneda took peyote, talked to coyotes, turned into a crow, and learned how to fly. All this took place in what don Juan called “a separate reality.” Castaneda, who died in 1998, was, from 1971 to 1982, one of the best-selling nonfiction authors in the country. During his lifetime, his books sold at least 10 million copies.

Castaneda was viewed by many as a compelling writer, and his early books received overwhelmingly positive reviews. Time called them “beautifully lucid” and remarked on a “narrative power unmatched in other anthropological studies.” They were widely accepted as factual, and this contributed to their success. Richard Jennings, an attorney who became closely involved with Castaneda in the ’90s, was studying at Stanford in the early ’70s when he read the first two don Juan books. “I was a searcher,” he recently told Salon. “I was looking for a real path to other worlds. I wasn’t looking for metaphors.”

The books’ status as serious anthropology went almost unchallenged for five years. Skepticism increased in 1972 after Joyce Carol Oates, in a letter to the New York Times, expressed bewilderment that a reviewer had accepted Castaneda’s books as nonfiction. The next year, Time published a cover story revealing that Castaneda had lied extensively about his past. Over the next decade, several researchers, most prominently Richard de Mille, son of the legendary director, worked tirelessly to demonstrate that Castaneda’s work was a hoax.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

There are people who were known to be strong-in-Faith in the past- but NOW their Faith can no longer do anything. the reasons for this are not obvious.

That is to say, the TRUE reasons. There are "USUAL SUSPECT" Reasons for "FAITH-FAILURE," which are immediately taken to be the cause namely SIN and UNBELIEF.

If those are eliminated, most people cannot "think outside the box" and come up with other reasons.

(1) UNFORGIVENESS.

.   MARK 11:12-14, 20-26.

12. And on the morrow,
when they had come from Bethany,
he was hungry;
13. And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves,
he went to see
if perhaps he might find
any thing thereon.
But when he came to it
he found nothing but leaves,
for the time for figs
was not yet.

14. And Jesus spoke
and said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And His Disciples heard it.

20. And in the morning
as they passed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

"Master, behold,
the fig tree which thou cursedst
is withered away."

22. And Jesus answering
saith unto him,

"Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I say unto you,

'THAT WHOSOEVER
SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,

"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU
CAST INTO THE SEA;"

AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO PASS;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'

24. "Therefore I say unto you,

'WHAT THINGS SOEVER
YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'

25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have ought against any:
that your Father also,
Which is in Heaven
may forgive you your Trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your Trespasses."

THIS used to be an "obvious;" however, the prevalence of "VENGEANCE-PRAYING"  shows that this factor is largely forgotten. The Servant of Yahshua has no right to pray for others to come to harm.

What they have done to earn our "Righteous Wrath" is insignificant.

Unless you never Sinned your entire life, you have to forgive whoever offended you.

No "IFS," "ANDS," nor "BUTS."

(2) FAILURE TO INTERCEDE FOR ENEMIES AND STRANGERS.

.   MATTHEW 5:38-48.

38. "Ye have heard that it hath been said,

'AN EYE FOR AN EYE,
AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.'

39. "But I say unto you,

'THAT YE RESIST NOT EVIL:
BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL
SMITE THEE ON THY RIGHT CHEEK,
TURN TO HIM
THE OTHER ALSO.'

40. "And if any man will sue thee at The Law,
and take away thy coat,
let him have (thy) cloke also.
41. "And whosoever shall compel thee
to go a mile,
go with him twain.
42. "Give to him that asketh thee,
and from him that would borrow of thee
turn not thou away.
43. "Ye have heard that it hath been said,

'THOU SHALT LOVE
THY NEIGHBOUR
AND HATE
THINE ENEMY.'

44. "But I say unto you,

'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES,
BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU,
DO GOOD TO THEM
THAT HATE YOU,
AND PRAY FOR THEM
WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU
AND PERSECUTE YOU.'

45. "That ye may be
the Children of your Father
Which is in Heaven:
for He maketh His Sun
to rise on the Evil
and on the Good,
and sendeth Rain
on the Just
and on the Unjust.
46. "For if ye love them
which love you,
what Reward have ye?
Do not even the Publicans
the same?
47. "And if ye salute
your Brethren only,
what do ye more (than others)
Do not even the Publicans so?
48. "Be ye therefore Perfect,
even as your Father
Which is in Heaven
is Perfect."

Prayer for people whom we LIKE is EASY.

However, we do not do it of our own FREE WILL.

Our AFFINITY FOR them MAKES us do things for them.

PRAYING FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT US IS HARD FOR THE HYPOCRITE.

A person who TRULY BELIEVES THE TRUE GOSPEL has NO PROBLEM doing THINGS THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND- just because they FEAR GOD. After they have OBEYED the incomprehensible Commandment, THEN Understanding comes.

But the HYPOCRITE has NO QUALMS about NOT PRAYING for their ENEMIES, nor for TOTAL STRANGERS.

Therefore, their WILLPOWER LEVEL is DICTATED by THE EARTH- that is, THE NATURAL.

It becomes USELESS for SUPERNATURAL Operations.

(3) "GRACE" DOCTRINE: IMAGINARY RIGHTEOUSNESS.

.  JOHN 15:1-15.

"I AM The True Vine,
and my Father is
The Husbandman.
2. "Every branch in me
that beareth not fruit
He Taketh Away:
and every (branch)
that beareth fruit,
He Purgeth it,
that it may bring forth
more fruit.
3. "Now ye are clean
through The Word
which I have spoken
unto you.
4. "Abide in me, and I in you.
As the branch cannot
bear fruit of itself,
except it abide in the vine;
no more can ye,
except ye abide in me.
5. "I am The Vine,
ye are The Branches:

'HE THAT ABIDETH IN ME,
AND IN HIM,
THE SAME BRINGETH FORTH
MUCH FRUIT:'

for without me
ye can do nothing.
6. "If a man abide not in me,
he is cast forth as a branch,
and is withered;
and men gather them,
and cast (them) into The Fire,
and they are burned.
7. "If ye abide in me,
and my Words abide in you,
ye shall ask what ye will,
and it shall be done
unto you.
8. "Herein is my Father Glorified,

'THAT YE BEAR MUCH FRUIT;'

so shall ye be my Disciples.
9. As the Father hath loved me,
so have I loved you:
continue ye in my Love.
10. "If ye keep my Commandments,
ye shall abide in my Love;
even as I have kept
my Father's Commandments,
and abide in his Love.
11. "These things
have I spoken unto you,
that my Joy might remain in you,
and that your Joy
might be full.
12. "This is my Commandment,

'THAT YE LOVE ONE ANOTHER
AS I HAVE LOVED YOU.'

13. "Greater Love
hath no man than this,

'THAT A MAN
LAY DOWN HIS LIFE
FOR HIS FRIENDS.'

14. "Ye are my Friends,
if ye do whatsoever
I Command you.
15. "Henceforth I call you not Servants;
for the servant knoweth not
what his lord doeth:
but I have called you Friends;
for all things
that I have heard of my Father
I have made known
unto you."

There is NO SUCH THING AS "GRACE."

Anything you Pray for, or Command, you must EARN THE RIGHT TO RECEIVE.

"JESUS PAID IT ALL!" is a THEORY- which HE never preached, therefore it is NOT in The Gospel.

please faith is not to work miracles again in this modern day, faith is simply to believe in christ and be saved and go about your normal life and be free, what do you people want?
miracles?
una don die!
nothing will ever satisfy you people

SHALOM!

esere826:
"the reason your faith no longer works"
??

That is not a reasonable sentence construction. |It's like saying "the reason your jump no longer jumps"

All things you could say, talk about, THIS is what you find to criticize.

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. GALATIANS 5:6.

6. For in Jesus Christ
neither Circumcision availeth any thing,
nor Uncircumcision;
but Faith which worketh by Love.

FAITH WORKS.

Learn that there are things you don't know anything about.

Faith works.
If its not working, then its no faith in the first place.
You'r probably trying to say
.... "the reason your hope no longer works"
or
... "the reason your hope no longer leads to faith".

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WHAT have you now done to HELP anyone?

At the End of the Day, your Faith is still nonexistent.

hacktycoon:
Wow, pride birth before a fall. Whoever posted this thinks he has mastered Christianity and thus reached the final height of maturity, but you are wrong. Whatever you think you know just open your eyes for let him that think that he stands take heed lest he falls. How can you say there's nothing like grace when we are saved by grace. The very thought of being holy can only be achieved by God's grace. I pray that the holy Spirit will help you.........All this mumbling is due to wrong doctrine and faulty foundation.

Wow ! Your observation about the OP is spot on. Your entire mention is loaded with truth, but I will make my point by quoting you. You said, "All this mumbling is due to wrong doctrine and faulty foundation."

The OP was written by a fake pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye who is working hard to enrich himself by Satanically mixing the Holy Scriptures with Dark fictional novels of Criminal Scientology and hallucinogenic drug-induced fictional Nagualism.

By 1952, "Dianetics" was exposed as fiction because his wife knew his terrible secrets. Dianetics was a book of fiction written on their kitchen table with zero science involved, only hallucinogenic drugs, and then his income went to zero and L.Ron Hubbard became desperate for money.
He began integrating the ideas from the fictional novel Dianetics into the beliefs and practices of what he called Scientology.

Prof Richard De Mille exposed the founder of Nagualism as a writer of fiction, but Carlos Castaneda fraudulently published his novels as non-fiction to con his readers. He went on to start his own religion called Nagualism in the same way L.Ron Hubbard started Criminal Scientology.

Carlos Castaneda and L.Ron Hubbard both did a course in fictional writing at the same college.

I therefore must repeat your advice to fake pastor Bronchitis.
You said, "All this mumbling is due to wrong doctrine and faulty foundation."

Martinez19:
This guy called Oaroloye is hateful, unapproachable and full of himself. He is repulsive. His attitude and Jesus Christ has nothing in common.

I agree 300%. He dont know Jesus !!

But guess why ?

Pastor Bronchitis cant afford to pay his way for recognition in the ranks of Criminal Scientology;

Leah Remini shows a producer her bookcase filled with Scientology books. "Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath"/A&E
Leah Remini showed off a large bookcase in her home filled with L. Ron Hubbard texts.

One wouldn't think that books for church membership could cost thousands of dollars, but Remini explained that there are 12 basic books in Scientology, and the package costs about $4,000. which is more than 1.3million Niara. And a member will often have to buy the books multiple times whenever Scientology says they've been updated. Which could cost more than 4million Niara.

Additionally, Scientology allegedly tells members that libraries have a demand for the books and encourages members to buy multiple book packages to donate to libraries.
In addition to books, Remini said that Scientologists must buy Hubbard's lectures, various audio CDs, donate to the church's causes, and pay a membership fee. What a ripoff !

I am willing to pay my tithes to pastor Bronchitis so he can pay his exorbitant fees to Criminal Scientology.

sonofthunder:

its your post, hence your vision. you fully know what you want to bring to birth in your readers...

I agree Sonofthunder. It is pastor Bronchitis' vision indeed. His vision statement shows that he is creating a hybrid religion where the Holy Scriptures will be mixed with Satanic Nagualism and Criminal Scientology which will bring to birth in his readers a strong desire to worship Lucifer.

Pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye (aka prince Aroloye of Inadre, Nigeria) has been studying Criminal Scientology for more than 20 yrs without progress because he is unable to pay more than 3.5million Niara in fees to gain average recognition in this church. Now he wants to start his own church based on the doctrines of Criminal Scientology and it Satanic rituals.

The son of Criminal Scientology, Ron DeWolf exposed his own dad , “My father L.Ron Hubbard conned people out of their money, used Satanic black magic, distributed drugs from his church, and took sexual advantage of the church’s young female followers, I was invited to participate in private Sex orgies with my dad and three or four innocent young girls at the alter of his church then spray his sperm over the church alter to honor Lucifer.”

He reveals further that "My father’s theory was that one has to open or crack a girls soul in order for the satanic power of Lucifer to pour through it and into him," Dewolf said in a recent magazine interview. "It got kind of weird, culminating in a variety of violent sex acts. Dad also had an incredibly violent temper. He was into S&M (Violent sex acts) and would beat his mistresses and shoot them full of drugs." His father used amphetamines and cocaine, DeWolf says, plus other hallucinogens.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



How is this inconsistent with what I have written in the past?

Not at all pastor Bronchitis. No, your doctrines are very consistent and inline with your future plans to launch a new never seen before hybrid religion that mixes the Holy Scriptures with Satanic Nagualism and Criminal Scientology that will release in your followers a strong desire to worship Lucifer. I am not surprised by your moves because it is well known that your master, L. Ron Hubbard the god of Criminal Scientology had SEX-ORGIES using innocent young girls on his church alter and inviting his own son, Ron DeWolf to join in.

Pastor Bronchitis will your followers also enjoy the New-age experience of spraying their sperm over the alter to appease Lucifer ?