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Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by ehegerty4: 12:33pm On Jun 15, 2017
MT 26:26-29, MK 14:22-25 The order of the communion was: bread, then wine.
LK 22:17-20 It was: wine, then bread.

MT 26:34, LK 22:34, JN 13:38 Peter was to deny Jesus before the cock crowed.
MK 14:30 Before the cock crowed twice.
MK 14:66-72 The cock crows after both the first and second denials.
(Note: These discrepancies have been "translated out" in some Bible versions.)

MT 26:40-45, MK 14:37-41 The disciples fall asleep three times.
LK 22:45 One time.

MT 26:49-50, MK 14:44-46 Jesus is betrayed by Judas with a kiss, then seized.
LK 22:47-48 Jesus anticipates Judas' kiss. No actual kiss is mentioned.
JN 18:2-9 Jesus voluntarily steps forward to identify himself making it completely unnecessary for Judas to point him out. No kiss is mentioned.

MT 26:51, MK 14:47, JN 18:10 The ear of a slave is cut off and left that way.
LK 22:50-51 The severed ear is miraculously healed by Jesus.

MT 26:52 Dispose of swords. All who take the sword will perish by it.
LK 22:36-38 Buy swords.

MT 26:57, MK 14:53, LK 22:54 After his arrest Jesus is first taken to Caiphas, the high priest.
JN 18:13-24 First to Annas, the son-in-law of Caiphas, then to Caiphas.

MT 26:18-20, 57-68, 27:1-2, MK 14:16-18, 53-72, 15:1 Jesus' initial hearing was at night on Passover. In the morning he was taken to Pilate.
LK 22:13-15, 54-66 The initial hearing took place in the morning on Passover.
JN 18:28, 19:14 It took place the day before Passover, on the Day of Preparation.

MT 26:59-66, MK 14:55-64 Jesus was tried by the entire Sanhedrin (the chief priests and the whole council).
LK 22:66-71 There was no trial but merely an inquiry held by the Sanhedrin.
JN 18:13-24 There was no appearance before the Sanhedrin, only the private hearings before Annas and then Caiphas.

MT 26:63, LK 22:70 The high priest asks Jesus if he is the Son of God.
MK 14:61 He asks Jesus if he is the Son of the Blessed.

MT 26:64, LK 22:70 Jesus answers: "You have said so," or words to this effect.
MK 14:62 He answers directly: "I am."

MT 26:69-70 Peter makes his first denial to a maid and "them all."
MK 14:66-68, LK 22:56-57, JN 18:17 It was to one maid only.

MT 26:71-72 Peter's second denial is to still another maid.
MK 14:69-70 (Apparently) to the same maid.
LK 22:58 To a man, not a maid.
JN 18:25 To more than one, "they."

MT 26:73-74, MK 14:70-71 Peter's third denial is to bystanders (two or more).
LK 22:59-60 To "another" (one).
JN 18:26-27 To one of the servants.

MT 26:74 The cock crowed once.
MK 14:72 The cock crowed twice.

MT 27:3-7 The chief priests bought the field.
AC 1:16-19 Judas bought the field.

MT 27:5 Judas threw down the pieces of silver, then departed.
AC 1:18 He used the coins to buy the field.

MT 27:5 Judas hanged himself.
AC 1:18 He fell headlong, burst open, and his bowels gushed out.

MT 27:11, MK 15:2, LK 23:3 When asked if he is King of the Jews, Jesus answers: "You have said so," (or "Thou sayest"wink.
JN 18:33-34 He answers: "Do you say this of your own accord?"

MT 27:11-14 Jesus answers not a single charge at his hearing before Pilate.
JN 18:33-37 Jesus answers all charges at his hearing before Pilate.

MT 27:20 The chief priests and elders are responsible for persuading the people to ask for the release of Barabbas.
MK 15:11 Only the chief priests are responsible.
LK 23:18-23 The people ask, apparently having decided for themselves.

MT 27:28 Jesus is given a scarlet robe (a sign of infamy).
MK 15:17, JN 19:2 A purple robe (a sign of royalty).

MT 27:32, MK 15:21, LK 23:26 Simon of Cyrene carries Jesus' cross.
JN 19:17 Jesus carries his own cross with no help from anyone.

MT 27:37 The inscription on the cross read: "This is Jesus the King of the Jews."
MK 15:26 "The King of the Jews."
LK 23:38 "This is the King of the Jews."
JN 19:19 "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews."

MT 27:44 Both of those who are crucified with Jesus taunt him.
LK 23:39-42 Only one taunts Jesus, and he is rebuked by the other for doing so.

MT 27:46 Jesus asks God, the Father, why he has been forsaken.
JN 10:30 Jesus says that he and the Father are one.

MT 27:46-50, MK 15:34-37 Jesus' last recorded words are: "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
LK 23:46 "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit."
JN 19:30 "It is finished." (Note: Even though both MT and MK allegedly represent direct quotes and are translated similarly, the actual Greek words used for God are different. MT uses "Eli" and MK uses "Eloi."wink

MT 27:48, LK 23:36, JN 19:29 Jesus was offered vinegar to drink.
MK 15:23 It was wine and myrrh, and he did not drink it.
JN 19:29-30 Whatever it was, he did drink it.

MT 27:54 The centurion says: "Truly this was the son of God."
MK 15:39 He says: "Truly this man was the son of God!"
LK 23:47 He says: "Truly this man was innocent" (or "righteous"wink.

MT 27:55, MK 15:40, LK 23:49 The women looked on from afar.
JN 19:25-26 They were near enough that Jesus could speak to his mother.

MT 27:62-66 A guard was placed at the tomb (the day following the burial).
MK 15:42- 16:8, LK 23:50-56, JN 19:38-42 (No guard is mentioned. This is important since rumor had it that Jesus' body was stolen and the Resurrection feigned.)
MK 16:1-3, LK 24:1 (There could not have been a guard, as far as the women were concerned, since they were planning to enter the tomb with spices. Though the women were aware of the stone, they were obviously unaware of a guard.)

MT 24:9 Even some of the disciples of Jesus will be killed.
JN 8:51 If anyone keeps Jesus' words, he will never see death.
HE 9:27 [All] men die once, then judgement follows.

MT 28:1 The first visitors to the tomb were Mary Magdalene and the other Mary (two).
MK 16:1 Both of the above plus Salome (three).
LK 23:55 - 24:1, 24:10 Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and "other women" (at least five).
JN 20:1 Mary Magdalene only (one).

MT 28:1 It was toward dawn when they arrived.
MK 16:2 It was after sunrise.
LK 24:1 It was at early dawn.
JN 20:1 It was still dark.

MT 28:1-2 The stone was still in place when they arrived. It was rolled away later.
MK 16:4, LK 24:2, JN 20:1 The stone had already been rolled (or taken) away.

MT 28:2 An angel arrived during an earthquake, rolled back the stone, then sat on it (outside the tomb).
MK 16:5 No earthquake, only one young man sitting inside the tomb.
LK 24:2-4 No earthquake. Two men suddenly appear standing inside the tomb.
JN 20:12 No earthquake. Two angels are sitting inside the tomb.

MT 28:8 The visitors ran to tell the disciples.
MK 16:8 They said nothing to anyone.
LK 24:9 They told the eleven and all the rest.
JN 20:10-11 The disciples returned home. Mary remained outside, weeping.

MT 28:8-9 Jesus' first Resurrection appearance was fairly near the tomb.
LK 24:13-15 It was in the vicinity of Emmaus (seven miles from Jerusalem).
JN 20:13-14 It was right at the tomb.

MT 28:9 On his first appearance to them, Jesus lets Mary Magdalene and the other Mary hold him by his feet.
JN 20:17 On his first appearance to Mary, Jesus forbids her to touch him since he has not yet ascended to the Father.
JN 20:27 A week later, although he has not yet ascended to the Father, Jesus tells Thomas to touch him.

MT 28:7-10, MT 28:16 Although some doubted, the initial reaction of those that heard the story was one of belief since they followed the revealed instructions.
MK 16:11, LK 24:11 The initial reaction was one of disbelief. All doubted.

MT 28:1-18 The order of Resurrection appearances was: Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, then the eleven.
MK 16:9-14 It was Mary Magdalene, then two others, then the eleven.
LK 24:15-36 It was two, then Simon (Peter?), then the eleven.
JN 20:14 - 21:1 It was Mary Magdalene, then the disciples without Thomas, then the disciples with Thomas, then the eleven disciples again.
1CO 15:5-8 It was Cephas (Peter?), then the "twelve" (which twelve, Judas was dead?), then 500+ brethren (although AC 1:15 says there were only about 120), then James, then all the Apostles, then Paul.

MT 28:19 Jesus instructs his disciples to baptize.
1CO 1:17 Although he considers himself a disciple of Jesus, Paul says that he has not been sent to baptize.

MK 1:2 Jesus quotes a statement that allegedly appears in Isaiah. No such statement appears in Isaiah. (Note: IS 40.3 is seen by some as equivalent to MK 1.2; MA 3.1 is a much better fit, however, given that Jesus is allegedly quoting word for word in MK 1:2.)

MK 1:14 Jesus began his ministry after the arrest of John the Baptist.
JN 3:22-24 Before the arrest of John the Baptist.

MK 1:23-24 A demon cries out that Jesus is the Holy One of God.
1JN 4:1-2 Everyone who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God. (Note: This would mean that the demon is of God.)

MK 3:29 Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin.
AC 13:39, CN 2:13, 1JN 1:9 All sins are forgivable.

MK 4:11-12, 11:25 Jesus says that he uses parables so that the meaning of some of his teachings will remain secret to at least some persons. He explains the meanings of the parables only to his disciples. He thanks God for hiding some things from the wise while revealing them to "babes."
JN 18:20 Jesus says that he always taught openly, never secretly.

MK 6:16 Herod was the source of the belief that John had been raised from the dead.
LK 9:7 Others were the source. Herod was perplexed by the belief.

MK 6:52 The people were so unimpressed with "the Feeding of the Multitude" that they did not even understand the event.
JN 6:14-15 They were so impressed that they tried to force Jesus to be their king.

MK 6:53 After the feeding of the 5000, Jesus and the disciples went to Gennesaret.
JN 6:17-25 They went to Capernaum.

MK 15:25 It was the third hour when Jesus was crucified.
JN 19:14-15 It was after the sixth hour since Jesus was still before Pilate and had not yet been sentenced at that time.

MK 16:1-2 The women came to the tomb to anoint the body.
JN 19:39-40 The body had already been anointed and wrapped in linen cloth.

MK 16:5, LK 24:3 The women actually entered the tomb.
JN 20:1-2, 11 They did not.

MK 16:14-19 The Ascension took place (presumably from a room) while the disciples were together seated at a table, probably in or near Jerusalem.
LK 24:50-51 It took place outdoors, after supper, at Bethany (near Jerusalem).
AC 1:9-12 It took place outdoors, after 40+ days, at Mt. Olivet.
MT 28:16-20 No mention is made of an ascension, but if it took place at all, it must have been from a mountain in Galilee since MT ends there.)

LK 1:15 John the Baptist had the Holy Spirit from before his birth or the birth of Jesus.
LK 1:41 Elizabeth had it long before Jesus went away.
LK 1:67 So did Zechariah.
LK 2:25 So did Simeon.
LK 11:13 It is obtained by prayer (presumably at any time).
JN 7:39, JN 16:7, AC 1:3-5 The Holy Spirit cannot come into the world until after Jesus has departed.

LK 8:12 The Devil causes unbelief.
MK 4:11-12 Jesus is responsible for unbelief in at least some cases.
2TH 2:11-12 God is ultimately responsible for unbelief in at least some cases.

LK 14:26 No one can be a disciple of Jesus unless he hates his parents, wife, children, brothers and sisters.
1JN 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer.
1JN 4:20 If anyone claims to love God but hates his brother, he is a liar.

LK 18:9-14 Do not boast of your virtue.
RO 11:20, 1PE 5:5 Do not be proud.
RO 15:17, 2CO 1:12, HE 3:6, 2CO 2:14, 5:12, 11:17 Paul boasts of his faith and says that one should be proud of it.

LK 22:3-23 Satan entered Judas before the supper.
JN 13:27 It was during the supper.

LK 23:43 Jesus promises one of those crucified with him that they will be together, that very day, in Paradise.
JN 20:17, AC 1:3 Jesus was not raised until the third day and did not ascend until at least forty days later.

LK 23:55-56 The women followed Joseph to the tomb, saw how the body had been laid, then went to prepare spices with which to anoint the body.
JN 19:39-40 Joseph brought spices with him (75 or a 100 lbs.) and annointed the body (as the women should have noticed).

JN 1:1, 10:30 Jesus and God are one.
JN 14:28 God is greater than Jesus.

JN 1:1 Jesus was God incarnate.
AC 2:22 Jesus was a man approved by God.

JN 3:17, 8:15, 12:47 Jesus does not judge.
JN 5:22, 5:27-30, 9:39, AC 10:42, 2CO 5:10 Jesus does judge.

JN 5:22 God does not judge.
RO 2:2-5, 3:19, 2TH 1:5, 1PE 1:17 God does judge.

JN 5:24 Believers do not come into judgement.
MT 12:36, RO 5:18, 2CO 5:10, HE 9:27, 1PE 1:17, JU 1:14-15, RE 20:12-13 All persons (including believers) come into judgement.

JN 5:31 Jesus says that if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is not true.
JN 8:14 Jesus says that even if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is true.

JN 5:38-47 Men have a choice as to whether or not to receive Jesus.
JN 6:44 No one can come to Jesus unless he is drawn by the Father.

JN 7:38 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in scripture (i.e., the OT).
(No such statement is found in the OT.)

JN 10:27-29 None of Jesus' followers will be lost.
1TI 4:1 Some of them will be lost.

JN 12:31 The Devil is the ruler (or "prince"wink of this world.
1CO 10:26, RE 1:5 Jesus is the ruler of kings--the earth is his.

JN 12:32 Jesus implies that all persons will be saved.
1TI 2:3-4, 2PE 3:9 God wants all to be saved.
JN 12:40, AC 2:21, 2:39, RO 9:27, 10:13 Some will not be saved.
RE 14:1-4 Heaven will be inhabited by 144,000 virgin men (only?).

JN 13:36 Peter asks Jesus where he is going.
JN 14:5 Thomas does the same.
JN 16:5 Jesus says that none of them have asked him where he is going.

JN 17:12 Jesus has lost none of his disciples other than Judas.
JN 18:9 Jesus has lost none, period.

JN 17:12 Mentions a "son of perdition" as appearing in scripture (meaning the OT).
(Note: There is no "son of perdition" mentioned in the OT.)

JN 18:37 Jesus came into the world to bear witness to the truth.
RO 1:18-20 The truth has always been evident.

JN 20:9 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in scripture (meaning the OT). (No such statement is found in the OT.)

JN 20:22 In his first resurrection appearance before the assembled disciples, Jesus gives them the Holy Spirit.
AC 1:3-5, AC 2:1-4 The Holy Spirit was received much later (on Pentecost.)

JN 21:25 The world probably could not contain the books if all that Jesus did were to be written.
AC 1:1 The author of Acts has already written about all that Jesus began to do.

AC 5:19, 12:6-11 The disciples take part in a jailbreak made possible by an angel.
AC 5:40-42 The disciples disobey the Council and continue to teach and preach Jesus.
RO 13:1-4, 1PE 2:13-15 Obey the laws of men (i.e., government). It is the will of God.

AC 5:29 Obey God, not men.
RO 13:1-4, 1PE 2:13-15 Obey the laws of men (i.e., government). It is the will of God.

AC 9:7 Those present at Paul's conversion heard the voice but saw no one.
AC 22:9 They saw a light but did not hear a voice.

AC 9:7 Those present at Paul's conversion stood.
AC 26:14 They fell to the ground.

AC 9:19-28 Shortly after his conversion, Paul went to Damascus, then Jerusalem where he was introduced to the Apostles by Barnabas, and there spent some time with them (going in and out among them).
GA 1:15-20 He made the trip three years later, then saw only Peter and James.

AC 9:23 The governor attempted to seize Paul.
2CO 11:32 It was the Jews who tried to seize Paul.

AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.
RO 9:11-13 God hated Esau and loved Jacob even before their birth.

AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.
RO 9:18 God has mercy on whoever he chooses, etc.

AC 16:6 The Holy Spirit forbids preaching in Asia.
AC 19:8-10 Paul preaches in Asia anyway.

AC 20:35 Quotes Jesus as having said: "It is more blessed to give than to receive." (No such statement of Jesus is found elsewhere in the Bible.)

RO 2:12 All who have sinned without the law will perish without the law.
RO 4:15 Where there is no law there is no transgression (sin).

RO 2:13 Doers of the law will be justified.
RO 3:20, GA 3:11 They will not be justified.

RO 2:15 The law is written on the heart. Conscience teaches right from wrong.
1JN 2:27 Anointing by Jesus teaches right from wrong.

RO 4:9 Faith was reckoned to Abraham as righteousness.
JA 2:21 Abraham was justified by works (which made his faith perfect).

RO 10:11 (An alleged OT quote; no such statement in the OT.)

RO 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything that might cause your brother to stumble or be offended.
CN 2:16 Let no one pass judgement on you in matters of food and drink.

1CO 7:8-9 Widows should not marry (although it is better to marry than burn).
1TI 5:14 Young widows should marry, bear children, rule the household, etc..

1CO 8:4 There is only one God.
2CO 4:4 Satan is God of this world (therefore there are at least two gods).

1CO 10:33 Paul says that he tries to please men (so they might be saved).
GA 1:10 Paul says he would not be a servant of Christ if he tried to please men.

2CO 12:16 Paul says that he does use trickery.
1TH 2:3 Paul says that he does not use trickery.

GA 6:2 Bear one another's burdens.
GA 6:5 Bear your own burden.

1TH 2:2 God gave Paul the courage to continue his work.
1TH 2:17-18 Satan hindered Paul.
(Note: Who is stronger, Satan or God?)

1TI 1:15 Paul says that he is the foremost of sinners.
1JN 3:8-10 He who commits sin is of the Devil. Children of God do not sin.

1TI 6:20, 2TI 2:14-16, 3:1-7 Do not argue with an unbeliever.
2JN 1:10-11 Anyone who even greets an unbeliever shares his wicked work.
CN 4:5-6 Be wise in your behavior with outsiders. Let your talk be with grace, mixed with salt, so that you may be able to give an answer to everyone.
1PE 3:15 Always be ready to answer any man concerning your faith.

JA 4:5 (Quotes an alleged OT scripture verse not found in the OT.)

RE 8:7 All of the grass on earth is burned up, and then ...
RE 9:4 An army of locusts, which is about to be turned loose on the earth, is instructed not to harm the grass.
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by ehegerty4: 12:35pm On Jun 15, 2017
with these i will have to conclude the bible is a very good book! grin grin

plainbibletruth ilynem 9inches lfleak hfeetham0

i dont even know where you guys will start correcting over a thousands errors...

goodluck!
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by 9inches(m): 12:38pm On Jun 15, 2017
hfeetham0:
the Qurysh people you say..? lol.. never knew i was arguing with a daft illiterate... you see that school, you said you won't go, i will force.. go to school! read and learn... dnt cram and live on hearsay! knowledge is light!

good day

You are yet to make any sense. Try again but stick to the topic, o' peaceful muslim. Name-calling isn't going to get you off.
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by 9inches(m): 12:44pm On Jun 15, 2017
plainbibletruth:


You're on point again.

Here is one of the many instances where Mohamed sponsored DECEPTION - Al-Taqiya:

in Hadith 5:59.369, Moslems can lie and pretend in some situations:
"Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it."

NOTE that this was all to be done because someone "offended" the prophet of Allah.

You are right. The list is not exhausted even, because there are more instances of that pedophile warlord practicing deceit for selfish and evil deeds as recorded in islamic texts.
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by 9inches(m): 12:46pm On Jun 15, 2017
ehegerty4:
with these i will have to conclude the bible is a very good book! grin grin

plainbibletruth ilynem 9inches lfleak hfeetham0

i dont even know where you guys will start correcting over a thousands errors...

goodluck!

You bet... Only if you wouldn't mind explaining what you meant by "errors" in the bible.
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by hfeetham0(f): 12:55pm On Jun 15, 2017
9inches:


You are yet to make any sense. Try again but stick to the topic, o' peaceful muslim. Name-calling isn't going to get you off.
go to school brother, you are not intelligent enough... grin
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by ehegerty4: 12:56pm On Jun 15, 2017
9inches:


You bet... Only if you wouldn't mind explaining what you meant by "errors" in the bible.
this one na mumu oo... ok

er·ror
ˈerər/
noun
noun: error; plural noun: errors

a mistake.
"spelling errors"
synonyms: mistake, inaccuracy, miscalculation, blunder, oversight; More
fallacy, misconception, delusion;
misprint, erratum;
informalslip-up, boo-boo, goof
"leaving the door unlocked was my error"
the state or condition of being wrong in conduct or judgment.
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by 9inches(m): 1:02pm On Jun 15, 2017
hfeetham0:
go to school brother, you are not intelligent enough... grin

Dude, none of my brothers would begin his sentence with a lowercase letter. The joke is on you, o brainwashed son of muhammad (god punish him) grin

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Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by hfeetham0(f): 1:11pm On Jun 15, 2017
9inches:


Dude, none of my brothers would begin his sentence with a lowercase letter. The joke is on you, o brainwashed son of muhammad (god punish him) grin
the bolded.. done! grin
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by 9inches(m): 1:14pm On Jun 15, 2017
ehegerty4:
I be mumu oo... forgive me
Go and sin no more.

ehegerty4:

er·ror
ˈerər/
noun
noun: error; plural noun: errors

a mistake.
"spelling errors"
synonyms: mistake, inaccuracy, miscalculation, blunder, oversight; More
fallacy, misconception, delusion;
misprint, erratum;
informalslip-up, boo-boo, goof
"leaving the door unlocked was my error"
the state or condition of being wrong in conduct or judgment.

I did not ask you for copy and paste here. Keep disgracing your parents. "What you meant" implies 'in your own word and in context as applicable in your statement above.

You qualify for a full refund of your tuition. You need a good lawyer to sue your teachers for scamming your household big time.
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by 9inches(m): 1:16pm On Jun 15, 2017
hfeetham0:
the bolded.. done! grin

You bet.
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by ehegerty4: 1:27pm On Jun 15, 2017
9inches:

Go and sin no more.

I did not ask you for copy and paste here. Keep disgracing your parents. "What you meant" implies 'in your own word and in context as applicable in your statement above.

You qualify for a full refund of your tuition. You need a good lawyer to sue your teachers for scamming your household big time.
shut up! lunatic libtard!
a usual xtian method of running... yea... i deserve refund, yea, i will get the refund, yea we were scammed

now face the real issue or gerrooura here mhen!

the bible is a fraud, mind you if you have no point to correct the fraud, delete your account...
i will get you a bucket, you can wail all day long..

The only way to avoid correcting the errors is to hide inside a cave at the top of a mountain!
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by plainbibletruth: 1:30pm On Jun 15, 2017
ehegerty4:
with these i will have to conclude the bible is a very good book! grin grin

plainbibletruth ilynem 9inches lfleak hfeetham0

i dont even know where you guys will start correcting over a thousands errors...

goodluck!
I see that you just joined NL with this moniker today.

It's either that you have another moniker and now using this to try to derail the thread or you must have been so PAINED by posts here that you decided to move from 'guest' reader to being a member.

Either way my suggestion to you is this:
1. If you can give honest response to comments about the topic of the thread do so.
2. Open a fresh thread for your concerns about the Bible and invite us there BUT DON'T LUMP too many things together otherwise you'll end up being confused.

You don't put a whole bowl of rice into your mouth at once, do you? You take it in little by little.

Is this Imam telling the truth about Islam?
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by ilynem(m): 1:31pm On Jun 15, 2017
ehegerty4:


MT 26:26-29, MK 14:22-25 The order of the communion was: bread, then wine.
LK 22:17-20 It was: wine, then bread.

MT 26:34, LK 22:34, JN 13:38 Peter was to deny Jesus before the cock crowed.
MK 14:30 Before the cock crowed twice.
MK 14:66-72 The cock crows after both the first and second denials.
(Note: These discrepancies have been "translated out" in some Bible versions.)

MT 26:40-45, MK 14:37-41 The disciples fall asleep three times.
LK 22:45 One time.

MT 26:49-50, MK 14:44-46 Jesus is betrayed by Judas with a kiss, then seized.
LK 22:47-48 Jesus anticipates Judas' kiss. No actual kiss is mentioned.
JN 18:2-9 Jesus voluntarily steps forward to identify himself making it completely unnecessary for Judas to point him out. No kiss is mentioned.

MT 26:51, MK 14:47, JN 18:10 The ear of a slave is cut off and left that way.
LK 22:50-51 The severed ear is miraculously healed by Jesus.

MT 26:52 Dispose of swords. All who take the sword will perish by it.
LK 22:36-38 Buy swords.

MT 26:57, MK 14:53, LK 22:54 After his arrest Jesus is first taken to Caiphas, the high priest.
JN 18:13-24 First to Annas, the son-in-law of Caiphas, then to Caiphas.

MT 26:18-20, 57-68, 27:1-2, MK 14:16-18, 53-72, 15:1 Jesus' initial hearing was at night on Passover. In the morning he was taken to Pilate.
LK 22:13-15, 54-66 The initial hearing took place in the morning on Passover.
JN 18:28, 19:14 It took place the day before Passover, on the Day of Preparation.

MT 26:59-66, MK 14:55-64 Jesus was tried by the entire Sanhedrin (the chief priests and the whole council).
LK 22:66-71 There was no trial but merely an inquiry held by the Sanhedrin.
JN 18:13-24 There was no appearance before the Sanhedrin, only the private hearings before Annas and then Caiphas.

MT 26:63, LK 22:70 The high priest asks Jesus if he is the Son of God.
MK 14:61 He asks Jesus if he is the Son of the Blessed.

MT 26:64, LK 22:70 Jesus answers: "You have said so," or words to this effect.
MK 14:62 He answers directly: "I am."

MT 26:69-70 Peter makes his first denial to a maid and "them all."
MK 14:66-68, LK 22:56-57, JN 18:17 It was to one maid only.

MT 26:71-72 Peter's second denial is to still another maid.
MK 14:69-70 (Apparently) to the same maid.
LK 22:58 To a man, not a maid.
JN 18:25 To more than one, "they."

MT 26:73-74, MK 14:70-71 Peter's third denial is to bystanders (two or more).
LK 22:59-60 To "another" (one).
JN 18:26-27 To one of the servants.

MT 26:74 The cock crowed once.
MK 14:72 The cock crowed twice.

MT 27:3-7 The chief priests bought the field.
AC 1:16-19 Judas bought the field.

MT 27:5 Judas threw down the pieces of silver, then departed.
AC 1:18 He used the coins to buy the field.

MT 27:5 Judas hanged himself.
AC 1:18 He fell headlong, burst open, and his bowels gushed out.

MT 27:11, MK 15:2, LK 23:3 When asked if he is King of the Jews, Jesus answers: "You have said so," (or "Thou sayest"wink.
JN 18:33-34 He answers: "Do you say this of your own accord?"

MT 27:11-14 Jesus answers not a single charge at his hearing before Pilate.
JN 18:33-37 Jesus answers all charges at his hearing before Pilate.

MT 27:20 The chief priests and elders are responsible for persuading the people to ask for the release of Barabbas.
MK 15:11 Only the chief priests are responsible.
LK 23:18-23 The people ask, apparently having decided for themselves.

MT 27:28 Jesus is given a scarlet robe (a sign of infamy).
MK 15:17, JN 19:2 A purple robe (a sign of royalty).

MT 27:32, MK 15:21, LK 23:26 Simon of Cyrene carries Jesus' cross.
JN 19:17 Jesus carries his own cross with no help from anyone.

MT 27:37 The inscription on the cross read: "This is Jesus the King of the Jews."
MK 15:26 "The King of the Jews."
LK 23:38 "This is the King of the Jews."
JN 19:19 "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews."

MT 27:44 Both of those who are crucified with Jesus taunt him.
LK 23:39-42 Only one taunts Jesus, and he is rebuked by the other for doing so.

MT 27:46 Jesus asks God, the Father, why he has been forsaken.
JN 10:30 Jesus says that he and the Father are one.

MT 27:46-50, MK 15:34-37 Jesus' last recorded words are: "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
LK 23:46 "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit."
JN 19:30 "It is finished." (Note: Even though both MT and MK allegedly represent direct quotes and are translated similarly, the actual Greek words used for God are different. MT uses "Eli" and MK uses "Eloi."wink

MT 27:48, LK 23:36, JN 19:29 Jesus was offered vinegar to drink.
MK 15:23 It was wine and myrrh, and he did not drink it.
JN 19:29-30 Whatever it was, he did drink it.

MT 27:54 The centurion says: "Truly this was the son of God."
MK 15:39 He says: "Truly this man was the son of God!"
LK 23:47 He says: "Truly this man was innocent" (or "righteous"wink.

MT 27:55, MK 15:40, LK 23:49 The women looked on from afar.
JN 19:25-26 They were near enough that Jesus could speak to his mother.

MT 27:62-66 A guard was placed at the tomb (the day following the burial).
MK 15:42- 16:8, LK 23:50-56, JN 19:38-42 (No guard is mentioned. This is important since rumor had it that Jesus' body was stolen and the Resurrection feigned.)
MK 16:1-3, LK 24:1 (There could not have been a guard, as far as the women were concerned, since they were planning to enter the tomb with spices. Though the women were aware of the stone, they were obviously unaware of a guard.)

MT 24:9 Even some of the disciples of Jesus will be killed.
JN 8:51 If anyone keeps Jesus' words, he will never see death.
HE 9:27 [All] men die once, then judgement follows.

MT 28:1 The first visitors to the tomb were Mary Magdalene and the other Mary (two).
MK 16:1 Both of the above plus Salome (three).
LK 23:55 - 24:1, 24:10 Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and "other women" (at least five).
JN 20:1 Mary Magdalene only (one).

MT 28:1 It was toward dawn when they arrived.
MK 16:2 It was after sunrise.
LK 24:1 It was at early dawn.
JN 20:1 It was still dark.

MT 28:1-2 The stone was still in place when they arrived. It was rolled away later.
MK 16:4, LK 24:2, JN 20:1 The stone had already been rolled (or taken) away.

MT 28:2 An angel arrived during an earthquake, rolled back the stone, then sat on it (outside the tomb).
MK 16:5 No earthquake, only one young man sitting inside the tomb.
LK 24:2-4 No earthquake. Two men suddenly appear standing inside the tomb.
JN 20:12 No earthquake. Two angels are sitting inside the tomb.

MT 28:8 The visitors ran to tell the disciples.
MK 16:8 They said nothing to anyone.
LK 24:9 They told the eleven and all the rest.
JN 20:10-11 The disciples returned home. Mary remained outside, weeping.

MT 28:8-9 Jesus' first Resurrection appearance was fairly near the tomb.
LK 24:13-15 It was in the vicinity of Emmaus (seven miles from Jerusalem).
JN 20:13-14 It was right at the tomb.

MT 28:9 On his first appearance to them, Jesus lets Mary Magdalene and the other Mary hold him by his feet.
JN 20:17 On his first appearance to Mary, Jesus forbids her to touch him since he has not yet ascended to the Father.
JN 20:27 A week later, although he has not yet ascended to the Father, Jesus tells Thomas to touch him.

MT 28:7-10, MT 28:16 Although some doubted, the initial reaction of those that heard the story was one of belief since they followed the revealed instructions.
MK 16:11, LK 24:11 The initial reaction was one of disbelief. All doubted.

MT 28:1-18 The order of Resurrection appearances was: Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, then the eleven.
MK 16:9-14 It was Mary Magdalene, then two others, then the eleven.
LK 24:15-36 It was two, then Simon (Peter?), then the eleven.
JN 20:14 - 21:1 It was Mary Magdalene, then the disciples without Thomas, then the disciples with Thomas, then the eleven disciples again.
1CO 15:5-8 It was Cephas (Peter?), then the "twelve" (which twelve, Judas was dead?), then 500+ brethren (although AC 1:15 says there were only about 120), then James, then all the Apostles, then Paul.

MT 28:19 Jesus instructs his disciples to baptize.
1CO 1:17 Although he considers himself a disciple of Jesus, Paul says that he has not been sent to baptize.

MK 1:2 Jesus quotes a statement that allegedly appears in Isaiah. No such statement appears in Isaiah. (Note: IS 40.3 is seen by some as equivalent to MK 1.2; MA 3.1 is a much better fit, however, given that Jesus is allegedly quoting word for word in MK 1:2.)

MK 1:14 Jesus began his ministry after the arrest of John the Baptist.
JN 3:22-24 Before the arrest of John the Baptist.

MK 1:23-24 A demon cries out that Jesus is the Holy One of God.
1JN 4:1-2 Everyone who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God. (Note: This would mean that the demon is of God.)

MK 3:29 Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin.
AC 13:39, CN 2:13, 1JN 1:9 All sins are forgivable.

MK 4:11-12, 11:25 Jesus says that he uses parables so that the meaning of some of his teachings will remain secret to at least some persons. He explains the meanings of the parables only to his disciples. He thanks God for hiding some things from the wise while revealing them to "babes."
JN 18:20 Jesus says that he always taught openly, never secretly.

MK 6:16 Herod was the source of the belief that John had been raised from the dead.
LK 9:7 Others were the source. Herod was perplexed by the belief.

MK 6:52 The people were so unimpressed with "the Feeding of the Multitude" that they did not even understand the event.
JN 6:14-15 They were so impressed that they tried to force Jesus to be their king.

MK 6:53 After the feeding of the 5000, Jesus and the disciples went to Gennesaret.
JN 6:17-25 They went to Capernaum.

MK 15:25 It was the third hour when Jesus was crucified.
JN 19:14-15 It was after the sixth hour since Jesus was still before Pilate and had not yet been sentenced at that time.

MK 16:1-2 The women came to the tomb to anoint the body.
JN 19:39-40 The body had already been anointed and wrapped in linen cloth.

MK 16:5, LK 24:3 The women actually entered the tomb.
JN 20:1-2, 11 They did not.

MK 16:14-19 The Ascension took place (presumably from a room) while the disciples were together seated at a table, probably in or near Jerusalem.
LK 24:50-51 It took place outdoors, after supper, at Bethany (near Jerusalem).
AC 1:9-12 It took place outdoors, after 40+ days, at Mt. Olivet.
MT 28:16-20 No mention is made of an ascension, but if it took place at all, it must have been from a mountain in Galilee since MT ends there.)

LK 1:15 John the Baptist had the Holy Spirit from before his birth or the birth of Jesus.
LK 1:41 Elizabeth had it long before Jesus went away.
LK 1:67 So did Zechariah.
LK 2:25 So did Simeon.
LK 11:13 It is obtained by prayer (presumably at any time).
JN 7:39, JN 16:7, AC 1:3-5 The Holy Spirit cannot come into the world until after Jesus has departed.

LK 8:12 The Devil causes unbelief.
MK 4:11-12 Jesus is responsible for unbelief in at least some cases.
2TH 2:11-12 God is ultimately responsible for unbelief in at least some cases.

LK 14:26 No one can be a disciple of Jesus unless he hates his parents, wife, children, brothers and sisters.
1JN 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer.
1JN 4:20 If anyone claims to love God but hates his brother, he is a liar.

LK 18:9-14 Do not boast of your virtue.
RO 11:20, 1PE 5:5 Do not be proud.
RO 15:17, 2CO 1:12, HE 3:6, 2CO 2:14, 5:12, 11:17 Paul boasts of his faith and says that one should be proud of it.

LK 22:3-23 Satan entered Judas before the supper.
JN 13:27 It was during the supper.

LK 23:43 Jesus promises one of those crucified with him that they will be together, that very day, in Paradise.
JN 20:17, AC 1:3 Jesus was not raised until the third day and did not ascend until at least forty days later.

LK 23:55-56 The women followed Joseph to the tomb, saw how the body had been laid, then went to prepare spices with which to anoint the body.
JN 19:39-40 Joseph brought spices with him (75 or a 100 lbs.) and annointed the body (as the women should have noticed).

JN 1:1, 10:30 Jesus and God are one.
JN 14:28 God is greater than Jesus.

JN 1:1 Jesus was God incarnate.
AC 2:22 Jesus was a man approved by God.

JN 3:17, 8:15, 12:47 Jesus does not judge.
JN 5:22, 5:27-30, 9:39, AC 10:42, 2CO 5:10 Jesus does judge.

JN 5:22 God does not judge.
RO 2:2-5, 3:19, 2TH 1:5, 1PE 1:17 God does judge.

JN 5:24 Believers do not come into judgement.
MT 12:36, RO 5:18, 2CO 5:10, HE 9:27, 1PE 1:17, JU 1:14-15, RE 20:12-13 All persons (including believers) come into judgement.

JN 5:31 Jesus says that if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is not true.
JN 8:14 Jesus says that even if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is true.

JN 5:38-47 Men have a choice as to whether or not to receive Jesus.
JN 6:44 No one can come to Jesus unless he is drawn by the Father.

JN 7:38 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in scripture (i.e., the OT).
(No such statement is found in the OT.)

JN 10:27-29 None of Jesus' followers will be lost.
1TI 4:1 Some of them will be lost.

JN 12:31 The Devil is the ruler (or "prince"wink of this world.
1CO 10:26, RE 1:5 Jesus is the ruler of kings--the earth is his.

JN 12:32 Jesus implies that all persons will be saved.
1TI 2:3-4, 2PE 3:9 God wants all to be saved.
JN 12:40, AC 2:21, 2:39, RO 9:27, 10:13 Some will not be saved.
RE 14:1-4 Heaven will be inhabited by 144,000 virgin men (only?).

JN 13:36 Peter asks Jesus where he is going.
JN 14:5 Thomas does the same.
JN 16:5 Jesus says that none of them have asked him where he is going.

JN 17:12 Jesus has lost none of his disciples other than Judas.
JN 18:9 Jesus has lost none, period.

JN 17:12 Mentions a "son of perdition" as appearing in scripture (meaning the OT).
(Note: There is no "son of perdition" mentioned in the OT.)

JN 18:37 Jesus came into the world to bear witness to the truth.
RO 1:18-20 The truth has always been evident.

JN 20:9 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in scripture (meaning the OT). (No such statement is found in the OT.)

JN 20:22 In his first resurrection appearance before the assembled disciples, Jesus gives them the Holy Spirit.
AC 1:3-5, AC 2:1-4 The Holy Spirit was received much later (on Pentecost.)

JN 21:25 The world probably could not contain the books if all that Jesus did were to be written.
AC 1:1 The author of Acts has already written about all that Jesus began to do.

AC 5:19, 12:6-11 The disciples take part in a jailbreak made possible by an angel.
AC 5:40-42 The disciples disobey the Council and continue to teach and preach Jesus.
RO 13:1-4, 1PE 2:13-15 Obey the laws of men (i.e., government). It is the will of God.

AC 5:29 Obey God, not men.
RO 13:1-4, 1PE 2:13-15 Obey the laws of men (i.e., government). It is the will of God.

AC 9:7 Those present at Paul's conversion heard the voice but saw no one.
AC 22:9 They saw a light but did not hear a voice.

AC 9:7 Those present at Paul's conversion stood.
AC 26:14 They fell to the ground.

AC 9:19-28 Shortly after his conversion, Paul went to Damascus, then Jerusalem where he was introduced to the Apostles by Barnabas, and there spent some time with them (going in and out among them).
GA 1:15-20 He made the trip three years later, then saw only Peter and James.

AC 9:23 The governor attempted to seize Paul.
2CO 11:32 It was the Jews who tried to seize Paul.

AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.
RO 9:11-13 God hated Esau and loved Jacob even before their birth.

AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.
RO 9:18 God has mercy on whoever he chooses, etc.

AC 16:6 The Holy Spirit forbids preaching in Asia.
AC 19:8-10 Paul preaches in Asia anyway.

AC 20:35 Quotes Jesus as having said: "It is more blessed to give than to receive." (No such statement of Jesus is found elsewhere in the Bible.)

RO 2:12 All who have sinned without the law will perish without the law.
RO 4:15 Where there is no law there is no transgression (sin).

RO 2:13 Doers of the law will be justified.
RO 3:20, GA 3:11 They will not be justified.

RO 2:15 The law is written on the heart. Conscience teaches right from wrong.
1JN 2:27 Anointing by Jesus teaches right from wrong.

RO 4:9 Faith was reckoned to Abraham as righteousness.
JA 2:21 Abraham was justified by works (which made his faith perfect).

RO 10:11 (An alleged OT quote; no such statement in the OT.)

RO 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything that might cause your brother to stumble or be offended.
CN 2:16 Let no one pass judgement on you in matters of food and drink.

1CO 7:8-9 Widows should not marry (although it is better to marry than burn).
1TI 5:14 Young widows should marry, bear children, rule the household, etc..

1CO 8:4 There is only one God.
2CO 4:4 Satan is God of this world (therefore there are at least two gods).

1CO 10:33 Paul says that he tries to please men (so they might be saved).
GA 1:10 Paul says he would not be a servant of Christ if he tried to please men.

2CO 12:16 Paul says that he does use trickery.
1TH 2:3 Paul says that he does not use trickery.

GA 6:2 Bear one another's burdens.
GA 6:5 Bear your own burden.

1TH 2:2 God gave Paul the courage to continue his work.
1TH 2:17-18 Satan hindered Paul.
(Note: Who is stronger, Satan or God?)

1TI 1:15 Paul says that he is the foremost of sinners.
1JN 3:8-10 He who commits sin is of the Devil. Children of God do not sin.

1TI 6:20, 2TI 2:14-16, 3:1-7 Do not argue with an unbeliever.
2JN 1:10-11 Anyone who even greets an unbeliever shares his wicked work.
CN 4:5-6 Be wise in your behavior with outsiders. Let your talk be with grace, mixed with salt, so that you may be able to give an answer to everyone.
1PE 3:15 Always be ready to answer any man concerning your faith.

JA 4:5 (Quotes an alleged OT scripture verse not found in the OT.)

RE 8:7 All of the grass on earth is burned up, and then ...
RE 9:4 An army of locusts, which is about to be turned loose on the earth, is instructed not to harm the grass.

I find it a waste of my limited time to debate people like you. You go on Google and copy things from people with limited knowledge of the Bible and you come here to paste. If you had knowledge of what the Bible really is, and you had taken your time to read those passages (I am overestimating you, I know), then you will realise how ignorant this post is.
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by ilynem(m): 1:37pm On Jun 15, 2017
plainbibletruth:

I see that you just joined NL with this moniker today.

It's either that you have another moniker and now using this to try to derail the thread or you must have been so PAINED by posts here that you decided to move from 'guest' reader to being a member.

Either way my suggestion to you is this:
1. If you can give honest response to comments about the topic of the thread do so.
2. Open a fresh thread for your concerns about the Bible and invite us there BUT DON'T LUMP too many things together otherwise you'll end up being confused.

You don't put a whole bowl of rice into your mouth at once, do you? You take it in little by little.

Is this Imam telling the truth about Islam?
Funny, I didn't even go through his copy and paste post. I can swear even he hasn't gone through it himself.
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by 9inches(m): 1:43pm On Jun 15, 2017
ehegerty4:
yea... i am a lunatic libtard!
... yea... i deserve refund, yea, i will get the refund, yea we were scammed

You are making progress.

ehegerty4:
the bible is a fraud, mind you if you have no point to correct the fraud, delete your account...
i will get you a bucket, you can wail all day long..

The only way to avoid correcting the errors is to hide inside a cave at the top of a mountain!

Unlike muhammad's quran, there is no error in the bible whatsoever; not one.
Now address the imam's statement. Open new thread and notify me if you want a new discussion.
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by plainbibletruth: 4:04pm On Jun 15, 2017
The Taqiya of Al-Hajjaj
(From THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD In the section dealing with The Affairs of AL-HAJJAJ B. ‘ILAT AL-SULAMI)

After the conquest of Khaybar, one of Mohamed’s companions by name Al-Hajjaj wanted to go back to Mecca to collect the money he had with his wife and those he had given merchants. He asked Mohamed for permission and was granted. He then told Mohamed:
I must tell lies, O apostle” – ie. When he gets to Mecca.

Mohamed then told him:
“Tell them”

So when the man got to Mecca and the Meccans wanted to know how Mohamed fared in Khaybar he hid his identity as a Moslem and when they confronted him with this:
“Tell us, O Abu Muhammad, for we have heard that the high-wayman [NOTICE what they knew Mohamed as – HIGH-WAYMAN] has gone to Khaybar which is a town of the Jews and the garden of the Hijaz".

He then went on to LIE about Mohamed, saying:
He has suffered a defeat such as you have never heard of and his companions have been slaughtered; you have never heard of the like, and Muhammad has been captured

He went on to tell more lies until he had collected all his money and then just before he left Mecca he confided in someone the truth about the Khaybar raid and asked the man not to tell the rest of the people until 3 days after he was gone.

Al-Taqiya was a norm even with Mohamed. Those who are commanded to follow him as an example can do no ‘less’.
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by ehegerty4: 4:53pm On Jun 15, 2017
plainbibletruth:

I see that you just joined NL with this moniker today.

It's either that you have another moniker and now using this to try to derail the thread or you must have been so PAINED by posts here that you decided to move from 'guest' reader to being a member.

Either way my suggestion to you is this:
1. If you can give honest response to comments about the topic of the thread do so.
2. Open a fresh thread for your concerns about the Bible and invite us there BUT DON'T LUMP too many things together otherwise you'll end up being confused.

You don't put a whole bowl of rice into your mouth at once, do you? You take it in little by little.

Is this Imam telling the truth about Islam?
am not for this thread, am for those verses... will join christianity only if you can clarify those hiccups..
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by ehegerty4: 4:53pm On Jun 15, 2017
ilynem:

I find it a waste of my limited time to debate people like you. You go on Google and copy things from people with limited knowledge of the Bible and you come here to paste. If you had knowledge of what the Bible really is, and you had taken your time to read those passages (I am overestimating you, I know), then you will realise how ignorant this post is.
yea yea.. run run .. grin grin
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by ehegerty4: 4:54pm On Jun 15, 2017
9inches:


You are making progress.



Unlike muhammad's quran, there is no error in the bible whatsoever; not one.
Now address the imam's statement. Open new thread and notify me if you want a new discussion.
yea, run away... clarify just 3 and i will become a christian...
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by hfeetham0(f): 5:00pm On Jun 15, 2017
[s]
plainbibletruth:
The Taqiya of Al-Hajjaj
(From THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD In the section dealing with The Affairs of AL-HAJJAJ B. ‘ILAT AL-SULAMI)

After the conquest of Khaybar, one of Mohamed’s companions by name Al-Hajjaj wanted to go back to Mecca to collect the money he had with his wife and those he had given merchants. He asked Mohamed for permission and was granted. He then told Mohamed:
I must tell lies, O apostle” – ie. When he gets to Mecca.

Mohamed then told him:
“Tell them”

So when the man got to Mecca and the Meccans wanted to know how Mohamed fared in Khaybar he hid his identity as a Moslem and when they confronted him with this:
“Tell us, O Abu Muhammad, for we have heard that the high-wayman [NOTICE what they knew Mohamed as – HIGH-WAYMAN] has gone to Khaybar which is a town of the Jews and the garden of the Hijaz".

He then went on to LIE about Mohamed, saying:
He has suffered a defeat such as you have never heard of and his companions have been slaughtered; you have never heard of the like, and Muhammad has been captured

He went on to tell more lies until he had collected all his money and then just before he left Mecca he confided in someone the truth about the Khaybar raid and asked the man not to tell the rest of the people until 3 days after he was gone.

Al-Taqiya was a norm even with Mohamed. Those who are commanded to follow him as an example can do no ‘less’.
[/s]hadithu dohinfu
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by true2god: 6:52pm On Jun 15, 2017
hfeetham0:
it's important to remember that the Quran was revealed to the prophet over a 30yr period. During that time there were times of war, many Surahs ppl misinterpret as violent, are considered the protocols of handling a violent enemy who means to do you harm. So most Muslims don't read that and think they need to kill non believers, extremists use those verses to justify their evil. A very important verse in the Quran is 'if you kill a single innocent, it's as if you killed the whole world, and if you save one innocent life, it's as if you've saved all of mankind." The extremists are enemies of Islam. They do nothing but make life harder for good Muslims.


remember, the Quran is a book of today, yesterday and tomorrow...

another thing is, if christian, buddhist, or hindus were the more populated in the mid east zone... same will be subjected to them... if you know the power of Oil... the previous saudi king sold the arab world to the ameri.... what do i know...
Stop parroting the fake Islamic national anthem:

'if you kill a single innocent, it's as if you killed the whole world, and if you save one innocent life, it's as if you've saved all of mankind'.

It has become stale. However this is the complete quote, not the lying Islam quotes:

Qur'an 5:32:

On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.

Salient points:

1 - It explicitly states that this was a commandment to the Children of Israel, i.e. the Jews! This is not a commandment to all people, and it certainly should not be misused as if this is Allah's command to Muhammad's people.

2 - Even if this were a command to the Muslims, there's still an escape clause: "unless it be for murder or spreading mischief in the land." If someone is "spreading mischief", he can still be killed.
Anything can mean 'spreading mischief in the land'. If I say that Jesus is the son of God, while I am in Saudi Arabia, I can be arrested. If I say Mohammed is a fake prophet, while I am in mecca, I will be killed because I am 'spreading mischief' in Saudi Arabia by committing shirk.

Now let's think for a moment.
As if this weren't obvious enough from the verse itself, the Qur'an further expounds this point in the very next verse. 5:33 says:

The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land : that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.

This verse is referring to the Muslims, not the Jews anymore, as we can tell in the shift from past tense to present tense. And here, the punishment for mischief is clearly prescribed: execution, crucifixion, mutilation, or at the least, exile. This is the command given to the Muslims. Quite clearly, it does not teach what the Muslims proclaim it teaches; in fact, it teaches almost the exact opposite.

In any case, you can no longer deceive us kafir with your Qur'anic misquotes. We have read your books.

On your claim that crude oil and the Americans are the reasons for Islamic violence in the middle east, that's a fat lie again. The shia-sunni war/crisis had been going on for almost 1400 years, and it is nonstop, long before America come into existence as a nation. And again, the Arabs, immediately after the death of Mohammed, invaded Spain, Portugal and France, all in the name of allahh. Don't forget the Islamic invasion of South east Asia, with wholesale slaughter of the kafirs for allahh. Is it the Americans that sent them or allahh?
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by hfeetham0(f): 7:18pm On Jun 15, 2017
true2god:
Stop parroting the fake Islamic national anthem:

'if you kill a single innocent, it's as if you killed the whole world, and if you save one innocent life, it's as if you've saved all of mankind'.

It has become stale. However this is the complete quote, not the lying Islam quotes:

Qur'an 5:32:

On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.

Salient points:

1 - It explicitly states that this was a commandment to the Children of Israel, i.e. the Jews! This is not a commandment to all people, and it certainly should not be misused as if this is Allah's command to Muhammad's people.

2 - Even if this were a command to the Muslims, there's still an escape clause: "unless it be for murder or spreading mischief in the land." If someone is "spreading mischief", he can still be killed.
Anything can mean 'spreading mischief in the land'. If I say that Jesus is the son of God, while I am in Saudi Arabia, I can be arrested. If I say Mohammed is a fake prophet, while I am in mecca, I will be killed because I am 'spreading mischief' in Saudi Arabia by committing shirk.

Now let's think for a moment.
As if this weren't obvious enough from the verse itself, the Qur'an further expounds this point in the very next verse. 5:33 says:

The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land : that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.

This verse is referring to the Muslims, not the Jews anymore, as we can tell in the shift from past tense to present tense. And here, the punishment for mischief is clearly prescribed: execution, crucifixion, mutilation, or at the least, exile. This is the command given to the Muslims. Quite clearly, it does not teach what the Muslims proclaim it teaches; in fact, it teaches almost the exact opposite.

In any case, you can no longer deceive us kafir with your Qur'anic misquotes. We have read your books.

On your claim that crude oil and the Americans are the reasons for Islamic violence in the middle east, that's a fat lie again. The shia-sunni war/crisis had been going on for almost 1400 years, and it is nonstop, long before America come into existence as a nation. And again, the Arabs, immediately after the death of Mohammed, invaded Spain, Portugal and France, all in the name of allahh. Don't forget the Islamic invasion of South east Asia, with wholesale slaughter of the kafirs for allahh. Is it the Americans that sent them or allahh?
mumu shut up! all you wrote is samething i corrected ur brother of.. read that same surat from verse 27.. dunce
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by plainbibletruth: 9:51pm On Jun 15, 2017
Predictably Mohammedan!

You Islamic apologists follow the same route all the time.

You are never able to clearly articulate your position on ANY portion of the quran, so you resort to so many distracting tactics - "out of context", "that is not what that verse mean", "abrogation", "the Arabic actually means...", "that has already been answered", etc.

When you know you cannot deny the FACTS being presented to you what you then do is run for cover.

Of course, becoming crude and vitriolic does not mean anything to you.

Then, also is your resort to DEFLECTION; point fingers at perceived 'faults' in the other person's in order to remove focus from the original issue.


Answering questions with questions is another common escape route you guys take.

Not to forget claim of REFUTATION - "that has already been refuted"; even when you have not really been able to prove anything wrong either by clear argument or evidence.

DECEPTION is always the name of the game for you Mohammedans.
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by 9inches(m): 10:11pm On Jun 15, 2017
ehegerty4:
yea, run away... clarify just 3 and i will become a christian...

Stick to the topic, mr. Muzzie
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by true2god: 5:12am On Jun 16, 2017
hfeetham0:
mumu shut up! all you wrote is samething i corrected ur brother of.. read that same surat from verse 27.. dunce
It is only on nairaland I see dunce claiming to correct a superior argument. Wonders shall never cease.

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Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by hfeetham0(f): 5:32am On Jun 16, 2017
true2god:
It is only on nairaland I see dunce claiming to correct a superior argument. Wonders shall never cease.
trying so hard everyday to prove the perfected wrong, i feel ur pain bro... you can wail all day for all i care.. grin
Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by true2god: 6:29am On Jun 16, 2017
hfeetham0:
trying so hard everyday to prove the perfected wrong, i feel ur pain bro... you can wail all day for all i care.. grin
Face the topic, don't face me. Your imam exposed the violent and criminal tendencies in Islamic text. Repudiate what the imam said, you dnt need attack me.

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Re: VIDEO: Muslim Imam Tells Truth About Islam by plainbibletruth: 11:28am On Jun 16, 2017
ehegerty4:
yea, run away... clarify just 3 and i will become a christian...

On your challenge on alleged contradictions:
REMEMBER, you said 3 would be ok.

First, it is important to note that –
The different gospels recorded events in varying details. In other words, some may record the same incident in more details than the others BUT the core issues remain the same.
For example if 2 people report the following
a) He went from A to B.
b) He went from A to B passing through difficult terrain
the difference in the two statements DOES NOT invalidate or make any one of them wrong. It is just that one added more details.

Having stated that lets look at 3 of your picks:
NO.1
You wrote –
MT 26:59-66, MK 14:55-64 Jesus was tried by the entire Sanhedrin (the chief priests and the whole council).
LK 22:66-71 There was no trial but merely an inquiry held by the Sanhedrin.
JN 18:13-24 There was no appearance before the Sanhedrin, only the private hearings before Annas and then Caiphas.

My response:
The Jewish religious groups had a head – an authority – over them at any point in time.
The Jews cleared their judicial matters with that authority.
This they did in John 18: 13-24.
It WAS NOT a private hearing because we are told in an earlier verse of John 18 – ie. Verse 12 – that “Then the detachment of soldiers with its commander and THE JEWISH OFFICIALS arrested Jesus. They bound him and brought him first to Annas …..”
So there is no contradiction here. This same crowd remained here and eventually led Jesus to his other trials – to Caiaphas, and then others including Pilate and Herod.
Earlier verses of the chapter of the gospel of Luke which you quoted also clearly stated that they first took Jesus to the high priest.
Once the sequence of events is well understood as I have shown here, you can see that there is no contradiction or disagreement between the gospels here.

NO.2
You wrote –
MT 26:63, LK 22:70 The high priest asks Jesus if he is the Son of God.
MK 14:61 He asks Jesus if he is the Son of the Blessed.

My response:
In Mark gospel the use of the word “again” means that Jesus was asked questions more than once. The high priest may have asked it in different ways which were differently captured by the different writers of the gospels as they were led to by the Holy Spirit.
“Son of the Blessed” and “Son of God” basically refers to the same thing. “The Blessed” is the most high God.

NO.3
You wrote –
MK 1:14 Jesus began his ministry after the arrest of John the Baptist.
JN 3:22-24 Before the arrest of John the Baptist.

My response:
Note that in John 3:22-24 Jesus was in JUDEA not in GALILEE. It was after John’s incarceration that Mark records Jesus going to GALILEE.
In mark 1:14, nothing there says “Jesus began his ministry after the arrest of John the Baptist” What that verse states is his LOCATION after John was taken into custody.
So again, there is no contradiction between these two portions of the gospels.

Now here are some other Bible passages you need to understand:
“There is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved” – Acts 4:12
“He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey (the command to believe) the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him” – John 3:36
“Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved” – Acts 16:31

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