will never happen. disney is a US company and BBC Kids is a British one. you know how people think, how they talk here. someone sells cartoons to the "evil ones" and youll never hear the end from those people. you know exactly who and what im refering to

@ Zpixel Regarding government, we can't do it without them. Or to be more precise we can't get to the highest level without them. They provide the enabling environment to do business. Everything from power , ICT infrastructure , education, support grants, access to low interest credit needs government involvement. So we do our part and they have to do theirs.

@agathmari I don't understand your point.Could you explain it again?

@ na2day I am in the industry and I am passionate about the talent and energy in this country. However I'm also a realist. Nigeria is nowhere close to producing something like Avatar. We're not even close to being part of the production process and delivering a scene in the movie. We just do not have the infrastructure and studios.

@ Amhatu I believe Smoke and Mirrors was finished a while back.

I understand when people refer to the 'black' factor but I think that is a distraction. I'd look at it more from a development point of view. Their societies are much more developed than ours in terms of infrastructure etc. They've just had more time to get their act together. They've had all their civil wars and famines in the West. It's just that CNN and Fox and the BBC weren't their to cover it as they happened hundreds of years ago! It's a huge simplification but I hope you get my point. So I don't look at it as a race thing, just as stage in development issue. Asia is now taking off and we'll be next. Hopefully sooner rather than later with as little pain as possible. Nigeria in 2020 will be more advanced than it is now. However the country might have to go through more hell to get there.

Even the fact there are so many of us now in this field shows progress. I remember doing a search for Nigerian 3D 8-10 years ago and got little response.

as for me, my own view about this whole deal is dt there is this distinctness between us and them and i really dont know where it is coming from, if u check deeply u will see wht i'm talking about, for instant, why is dt when u see a design u can easily determine dt dis job is done in nigeria or dis job is done outside the country, there is dis touch dt makes it just unique and what could dt be? ordinarily, if u are into books, u can easily predict if d book is foreign or homemade, ranging from the design, to d print quality, to the paper quality and the rest,

lets go outside graphics, other professions too, we see it too, the foreign contractors give u the best buildings compared to our naija guys even even the building is done in naija here (on our own soil), hollywood another tale, america started building dt studio form d scratch, even technology neva make am, dt means they were once in a stage we are now, dt is d technology we are using presently, but are we getting d same results?

yes the talent is there, the skills are brushing up. but for me the last ingredient is missing, dt flavor is not just there, dts wht makes d distinction.

I laugh when i here of 9ja doing smetin close to avatar. Impossible!

See our movie industry, how many of Nollywoods production reach Titanic half. Even if we finally enter d animation industry, we end up in round-about.

I laugh when i here of 9ja doing smetin close to avatar. Impossible!

See our movie industry, how many of Nollywoods production reach Titanic half. Even if we finally enter d animation industry, we end up in round-about.

@adamuw- you know the ones im talking about. the ones who instead of seeing the positive effects this share of culture will have not only economicaly but as far as self estem they revert back to this infintile mentality that these man from kenya are looking for the "approval or validation form the evil white man".

@ na2day  I am in the industry and I am passionate about the talent and energy in this country. However I'm also a realist. Nigeria is nowhere close to producing something like Avatar. We're not even close to being part of the production process and delivering a scene in the movie. We just do not have the infrastructure and studios.

Not even a shot? lol.

You guys can check out the trailer for a new movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBmbd2-7zAI starring  Genevieve Nnaji,  Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde. When you watch this trailer, you'll begin to think how come we can't shoot a movie of that quality(i mean the lighting, grading, ) right in this country. It's really disturbs me.

emmakc:

I laugh when i here of 9ja doing smetin close to avatar. Impossible!

See our movie industry, how many of Nollywoods production reach Titanic half. Even if we finally enter d animation industry, we end up in round-about.

Sit down there. there is a new breed of film-makers that will be coming out soon

@agathamari Ok I see your point. I don’t really want to go into politics but I can’t want to leave the ‘evil white man’ remark unaddressed. I have nothing against the ‘evil white man’ as you put it. I’ve worked with many talented ones before and hope to do so in the future and we all learn from each other. No race or culture has the monopoly on ‘good or evil’. It’s a power thing. Wait until the Asian block rises and you’ll get it. China is already throwing its weight around Africa.

The Kenyan studio is not trying to look for validation or approval. They are getting their act together and playing a smart game. The ‘Tinga Tinga Tales’ which is the animation the studio is producing is based on African art and culture and will do what you are saying you want, which is spreading African culture in a positive way to other regions. Importantly those regions will see the value in it and pay the money for the series. Try to convince Nigerian investors/TV stations to pay proper money for an animation production and you’ll meet nothing but obstacles and excuses. We are too short sighted here at the moment.

Regarding Nollywood, I’ve stopped criticising them for the sake of it now. I see the operating environment they are working in and I know people in the industry who are and will push things forward. Those are the guys we have to link up with. Besides they have been able to work out a successful business model and whether we like it or not millions of people love the low quality stuff that they produce. But the quality is rising fast in many areas.

zPixel:

Not even a shot? lol.

You guys can check out the trailer for a new movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBmbd2-7zAI starring  Genevieve Nnaji,  Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde. When you watch this trailer, you'll begin to think how come we can't shoot a movie of that quality(i mean the lighting, grading, ) right in this country. It's really disturbs me.

Na oyinbo production, we are talking about 100% local here!
Paula Moreno Director of Photography: Keith L. Smith director, that actually explain the texture, grading and the lightin!

emmakc:

I laugh when i here of 9ja doing smetin close to avatar. Impossible!

See our movie industry, how many of Nollywoods production reach Titanic half. Even if we finally enter d animation industry, we end up in round-about.

My brother, with d talents alone on this board, its quite possible, maybe not now but in no distant future, the problem is dat the guys in nollywood don't visit nairaland, i'm sure they spend their time online visiting p.o.r.n sites, that may explain d acute lack of creativity and ingenuity in stories and productions. Most of their vfx sucks big time, something i'd have done for them for free!

Again, part of the problem is 9jarian filmaker's mania in being the screenwriter, the producer, the cinematographer e.t.c, this is a serious aberration, which u can't find anywhere else but in 9ja, until we start recognisin and encouragin specialisation, we are wasting time as they always say - jack of all trade, u know d rest. And dat includes 3D production, u cant be a master in everything!

Though I didn't read through all the posts, I couldn't help but notice the pessimists shouting that we can not do it. Well, some Nigerians are already working hard instead of whining and waiting for government to do things for them. A company called fusion media is producing a Nigerian 3D animated series called the O-twins. I think it will be out in the beginning of this year. You can check out their website at

http://www.fusionng.com/

To the pessimists, I say, if you can't do something just help us by keeping quiet instead of making noise that will discourage the otherwise serious ones among us.

na2day!:

has anyone seen AVATAR? I believe, very soon 9ja will get there!

Avatar was done with motionbuilder and a software was used to plant seeds in the virtual world giving rise to the forest you see in the movie.Motion capture was heavily used for the tribe's movements or animation.
I wonder whether there's a studio in this country that uses a motion capture device,not to mention how much a software that is used to plant virtual trees will cost.Info about this:
http://area.autodesk.com/industrynews/avatar_the_game_changer

Can this be done here?

IG:

Though I didn't read through all the posts, I couldn't help but notice the pessimists shouting that we can not do it. Well, some Nigerians are already working hard instead of whining and waiting for government to do things for them. A company called fusion media is producing a Nigerian 3D animated series called the O-twins. I think it will be out in the beginning of this year. You can check out their website at

http://www.fusionng.com/

To the pessimists, I say, if you can't do something just help us by keeping quiet instead of making noise that will discourage the otherwise serious ones among us.

IG, Thanks for posting the info. The O-twins looks like a good production in the works.

AdamuW, Thanks for your answer.

Goodday

I was wondering if anyone knows of any Render Farm in Nigeria. I'm planning to setup one in the not-too-distant future. Is this a viable venture?

sendtodeji:

I was wondering if anyone knows of any Render Farm in Nigeria. I'm planning to setup one in the not-too-distant future. Is this a viable venture?

sendtodeji,
Something to Consider.

One of the best rendering station boards are

Tyan Thunder n4250QE S4985-SI (S4985G3NR-SI)

http://www.tyan.com/product_SKU_spec.aspx?ProductType=MB&pid=638&SKU=600000075


With a Tyan Thunder motherboard (4 of them, all Together made up of complete systems all AMD Opeteron Processors)


You can push out a high quality 1 hour reel at (NTSC & Pal standards) in less than a week)

For High Dynamic Range (Theater & Higher Ranges) may take 4 weeks maybe less or more depending on setup.

If Electricity is a problem you may consider a photovoltaic systems.

For Solar Electric information :
http://www.thesolarguide.com/solar-energy-systems/solar-photovoltaic-systems.aspx.

Goodday

P.S. If you decide to set it up I would be happy to work parttime for you build & test your setups as I do animation work.

Amhatu:

sendtodeji,
Something to Consider.

One of the best rendering station boards are

Tyan Thunder n4250QE S4985-SI (S4985G3NR-SI)

http://www.tyan.com/product_SKU_spec.aspx?ProductType=MB&pid=638&SKU=600000075


With a Tyan Thunder motherboard (4 of them, all Together made up of complete systems all AMD Opeteron Processors)


You can push out a high quality 1 hour reel at (NTSC & Pal standards) in less than a week)

For High Dynamic Range (Theater & Higher Ranges) may take 4 weeks maybe less or more depending on setup.

If Electricity is a problem you may consider a photovoltaic systems.

For Solar Electric information :
http://www.thesolarguide.com/solar-energy-systems/solar-photovoltaic-systems.aspx.

Goodday

P.S. If you decide to set it up I would be happy to work part-time for you build & test your setups as I do animation work.

Thanks for the suggestion. If you don't mind, drop me your email address. I will hit you up as soon as I've got something to get started. I'm building a scalable system. If it's lucrative enough a venture, I intend having a farm that's capable of rendering a 4 week job in 2 days. I know that's a lot of computing resource but it's achievable.

sendtodeji:

Thanks for the suggestion. If you don't mind, drop me your email address. I will hit you up as soon as I've got something to get started. I'm building a scalable system. If it's lucrative enough a venture, I intend having a farm that's capable of rendering a 4 week job in 2 days. I know that's a lot of computing resource but it's achievable.

sendtodeji, you can reach me at : amhatup1@webafrica-global.com

Thanks.

Amhatu:


sendtodeji, you can reach me at : amhatup1@webafrica-global.com

Thanks.

Are you available on IM? We could carry on a live conversation on Y!IM or AIM.

I will email you my Y!IM.

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