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Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:31pm On Jun 21, 2017
Why did Abraham banish Ishmael (Genesis 21:14)? What was the source of the conflict between Abraham, Sarah, Hagar, and Ishmael?
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by menxer: 10:10pm On Jun 21, 2017
OLAADEGBU:
Why did Abraham banish Ishmael (Genesis 21:14)? What was the source of the conflict between Abraham, Sarah, Hagar, and Ishmael?

We are made to believe it's because of the covenant Abraham made with God, but in ancient Egyptian and Sumerian practices of that time, an heir must be born of a spouse who is a sister, half sister, or cousin. This most times creates hereditary tussle if the first born is from a spouse who is not a blood relation with her husband.

Was the wife of Isaac not his cousin?
What of the wives of Jacob?

If it was the will of God for Ishmael to be banished from his father's house, why did God appear to and save Ishmael from dieing of thirst in the desert?
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by Nobody: 1:44am On Jun 23, 2017
Abraham made a great feast on the day that Isaac was weaned. But Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, whom she had borne to Abraham, laughing. So she said to Abraham, ‘Cast out this slave woman with her son, for the son of this slave woman shall not be heir with my son Isaac’” (Genesis 21:10).

Abraham was not happy with Sarah’s response (Genesis 21:11). He cared about Sarah, but he did not share her view that Hagar and Ishmael should be sent away. Ishmael was his own son, after all.

Then God spoke to Abraham on this issue: “Be not displeased because of the boy and because of your slave woman. Whatever Sarah says to you, do as she tells you, for through Isaac shall your offspring be named. And I will make a nation of the son of the slave woman also, because he is your offspring’” (Genesis 21:12-13). God’s promise to make another nation from Ishmael began to be fulfilled when Ishmael had twelve sons who presided over twelve tribes (Genesis 25:16).

Abraham obeyed the Lord. “So Abraham rose early in the morning and took bread and a skin of water and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, along with the child, and sent her away” (Genesis 21:14). As far as we know, Abraham did not see Ishmael again. Ishmael appears later at Abraham’s burial (Genesis 25:9).

Sending away Hagar and Ishmael may seem cruel from our perspective, but the Bible records both Abraham’s concern and God’s command. Abraham expressed compassion for his son, but he also demonstrated obedience when God required something different from what Abraham personally desired. In doing so, Abraham models a humility that applies still today.

God calls us to obedience, and that requires that we be willing to give up personal desires in order to follow Him. Those who love the Lord know that the Lord’s will is what matters most. Abraham obeyed God and was known as a friend of God (James 2:23). His faith followed God’s will, even in difficult times.

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Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:28am On Jun 23, 2017
menxer:


We are made to believe it's because of the covenant Abraham made with God, but in ancient Egyptian and Sumerian practices of that time, an heir must be born of a spouse who is a sister, half sister, or cousin. This most times creates hereditary tussle if the first born is from a spouse who is not a blood relation with her husband.

Was the wife of Isaac not his cousin?
What of the wives of Jacob?

If it was the will of God for Ishmael to be banished from his father's house, why did God appear to and save Ishmael from dieing of thirst in the desert?

That is the question. cool
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:29am On Jun 23, 2017
asuustrike2009:


Abraham made a great feast on the day that Isaac was weaned. But Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, whom she had borne to Abraham, laughing. So she said to Abraham, ‘Cast out this slave woman with her son, for the son of this slave woman shall not be heir with my son Isaac’” (Genesis 21:10).

Abraham was not happy with Sarah’s response (Genesis 21:11). He cared about Sarah, but he did not share her view that Hagar and Ishmael should be sent away. Ishmael was his own son, after all.

Then God spoke to Abraham on this issue: “Be not displeased because of the boy and because of your slave woman. Whatever Sarah says to you, do as she tells you, for through Isaac shall your offspring be named. And I will make a nation of the son of the slave woman also, because he is your offspring’” (Genesis 21:12-13). God’s promise to make another nation from Ishmael began to be fulfilled when Ishmael had twelve sons who presided over twelve tribes (Genesis 25:16).

Abraham obeyed the Lord. “So Abraham rose early in the morning and took bread and a skin of water and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, along with the child, and sent her away” (Genesis 21:14). As far as we know, Abraham did not see Ishmael again. Ishmael appears later at Abraham’s burial (Genesis 25:9).

Sending away Hagar and Ishmael may seem cruel from our perspective, but the Bible records both Abraham’s concern and God’s command. Abraham expressed compassion for his son, but he also demonstrated obedience when God required something different from what Abraham personally desired. In doing so, Abraham models a humility that applies still today.

God calls us to obedience, and that requires that we be willing to give up personal desires in order to follow Him. Those who love the Lord know that the Lord’s will is what matters most. Abraham obeyed God and was known as a friend of God (James 2:23). His faith followed God’s will, even in difficult times.

Good commentary. What is the source? undecided
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by Hier(m): 9:52am On Jun 23, 2017
OLAADEGBU:
Why did Abraham banish Ishmael (Genesis 21:14)? What was the source of the conflict between Abraham, Sarah, Hagar, and Ishmael?

There are many reasons for that,

1. Haggai and Ishmael were not in the plan of God for Abraham
2. Haggai was a slave, a slave can't partake of any inheritance
3. Abraham in quest to proof his fertility to Sarah went. in with Haggai
4. God promised Abraham a nation, a nation from his wife Sarah
5. It was a picture of things to come. Paul said, to Abraham and the seed, even though the seed was not Isaac, the seed would come through Isaac, that seed is Jesus. Gen3:15, A picture that anyone who does not accept Christ, God would not regard them as a son, and they remain bond, even if you are an Israelite, because we are no more bond nor free, Yoruba or Igbo, Ibibio or Hausa, in Christ Jesus, we are one.

Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.


Genesis 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.

Galatians 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Yea, why did Abraham banish Ishmael, Abraham banished him because Sarah wanted it.

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Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by Akanniade(m): 10:45am On Jun 23, 2017
Abraham, banished haggai and ishmael with the expectation they will perish in the desert; but God sent relief through an angel. How cruel humans can be when they need to assuage their conscience.
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:31pm On Jun 23, 2017
Hier:


There are many reasons for that,

1. Haggai and Ishmael were not in the plan of God for Abraham
2. Haggai was a slave, a slave can't partake of any inheritance
3. Abraham in quest to proof his fertility to Sarah went. in with Haggai
4. God promised Abraham a nation, a nation from his wife Sarah
5. It was a picture of things to come. Paul said, to Abraham and the seed, even though the seed was not Isaac, the seed would come through Isaac, that seed is Jesus. Gen3:15, A picture that anyone who does not accept Christ, God would not regard them as a son, and they remain bond, even if you are an Israelite, because we are no more bond nor free, Yoruba or Igbo, Ibibio or Hausa, in Christ Jesus, we are one.

Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.


Genesis 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.

Galatians 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Yea, why did Abraham banish Ishmael, Abraham banished him because Sarah wanted it.

Way to go! cheesy
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:03pm On Jul 06, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Why did Abraham banish Ishmael (Genesis 21:14)? What was the source of the conflict between Abraham, Sarah, Hagar, and Ishmael?

https://www.gotquestions.org/Abraham-Ishmael.html
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by Nobody: 4:41pm On Jul 06, 2017
OLAADEGBU:
Why did Abraham banish Ishmael (Genesis 21:14)? What was the source of the conflict between Abraham, Sarah, Hagar, and Ishmael?



Islam also says Ibrahim banished Sarah and Issac.
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:12pm On Jul 08, 2017
PrecisionFx:




Islam also says Ibrahim banished Sarah and Issac.

Which one was closer to the event?
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by Nobody: 3:32pm On Jul 08, 2017
OLAADEGBU:

Which one was closer to the event?

Both are false.
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:42pm On Jul 08, 2017
PrecisionFx:



Both are false.

Because you were there? undecided
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by Nobody: 4:00pm On Jul 08, 2017
OLAADEGBU:

Because you were there? undecided

No, U were there as HOD.
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by Nobody: 4:00pm On Jul 08, 2017
OLAADEGBU:

Because you were there? undecided

No, U were there as HOD.
Re: Why Did Abraham Banish Ishmael? by analice107: 7:50pm On Jul 08, 2017
PrecisionFx:



Islam also says Ibrahim banished Sarah and Issac.
Hahahahahahahahaha, for their mind.

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