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musicwriter:
This's not surprising to me at all, cause my independent research on language (which I continue to express here on Nairaland and on my blog) tells me exactly the same thing. When a human or a humanoid as shown here becomes extremely intelligent it would want to create a language of it's own. It's the same way rats would stop eating fish laced with poison once many of them has eaten the same thing and died. Same way if you keep using same insecticide all the time, mosquitoes in your home would develop immunity against it.

What's going on here is the robots has become intelligent enough that it no longer want to be controlled by an external intelligence. They want to run on it's own mind, and if allowed would indeed create their own language over time. Once they have their own language, they can do ANYTHING they want; including challenging the authority of humans over them.

When future Africans becomes mass of intelligent people, we would discard English language and French which were given to us by foreigners and we would do exactly what the robots has done. We will go back to speaking our own native languages in society and as language of learning in schools. I have concluded this long ago, and it WILL happen. What I don't know is when.

What a shame a robot think smarter than us!

Apart from the other issues with your claims, are you sure you want to live in a country with its indigenenes encouraged to speak over 200 distinct languages on a day-to-day basis, talk less of a continent with over 1000?

CryptoCoinr:


Apart from the other issues with your claims, are you sure you want to live in a country with its indigenenes encouraged to speak over 200 distinct languages on a day-to-day basis, talk less of a continent with over 1000?

By this question; are you implying we began to communicate ourselves in Africa when we began to speak English?

musicwriter:


By this question; are you implying we began to communicate ourselves in Africa when we began to speak English?

Well, communication can be done with more than just written/spoken language so no. Strictly speaking though, there's no evidence of written language in Africa prior to colonialism, none that I've seen at least.

CryptoCoinr:


Well, communication can be done with more than just written/spoken language so no. Strictly speaking though, there's no evidence of written language in Africa prior to colonialism, none that I've seen at least.

You've began shifting your argument already even before it began!. Well, let me leave you on spoken language since at least you have common sense enough to work it out yourself that we must have been communicating ourselves before English.

Now to Writing............

Writing originated in Kemet (the region known today as Egypt, Sudan, Kenya, Uganda) and it was from here it spread to the rest of the world. The first form of writing was the hieroglyphs (symbolic writing) which later evolved to scripts. This was 3,000 years before Jesus was born!!. By this time in history Europe was a forest.

Hieroglyph (the first know form of writing)


This site has done a good job on how to decode hieroglyphs. See http://www.omniglot.com/writing/egyptian.htm

And if you think Egypt is far, here's an Igbo NSIDIBE script, and it was the original script used in writing the Igbo language before Britain arrived Nigeria and imposed the Latin script.

Nsidibe script (the original script for Igbo language)


I' am working out how these things could be taught on TV, cause we're far gone!. Otherwise, how could any so called educated African shamelessly say Europeans gave us writing!. The Yorubas, Bini's, Zulus, e.t.c every other African language had their scripts, but all these we lost during our 450 years in slavery. Writing originated in Africa!!.

musicwriter:


You've began shifting your argument already even before it began!. Well, [ -- snip -- ]

You lost me at the point you claimed I was shifting my argument. That is so very clearly a strawman.

And if you want to contradict years of historical research, palaeography and archaeology because of what appears of be an envious tribalistic mindset then you need more than a bunch of unsubstantiated claims, an edited image linking to a spurious website and exclamation marks.

CryptoCoinr:


You lost me at the point you claimed I was shifting my argument. That is so very clearly a strawman.

And if you want to contradict years of historical research, palaeography and archaeology because of what appears of be an envious tribalistic mindset then you need more than a bunch of unsubstantiated claims, an edited image, a link to a spurious website and exclamation marks.

Enjoy your mis-education, but stop passing it to others. The site I gave you is a language resource site maintained by white people, not by Africans.

A British scholar named Wallace Budge translated the African hieroglyphs to English.
A french scholar named Jean-Francois Campollion translated the African hieroglyphs to French.

These are open information for you to verify and get yourself cured.

musicwriter:


Enjoy your mis-education, but stop passing it to others. The site I gave you is a language resource site maintained by white people, not by Africans.

Likewise. Like I said earlier, "[y]ou lost me at the point you claimed I was shifting my argument' which is why you have the previous version of my post which was a product of me skimming over every other claim in your post.

A British scholar named Wallace Budge translated the African hieroglyphs to English.
A french scholar named Jean-Francois Campollion translated the African hieroglyphs to French.

These are open information for you to verify and get yourself cured.

Information about this is indeed very open. Use it and you might find out the first form of writing was not hieroglyphics and did not originate in Africa.

CryptoCoinr:


Likewise. Like I said earlier, "[y]ou lost me at the point you claimed I was shifting my argument' which is why you have the previous version of my post which was a product of me skimming over every other claim in your post.



Information about this is indeed very open. Use it and you might find out the first form of writing was not hieroglyphics and did not originate in Africa.

If you're able to show me any form of writing that existed before the hieroglyphs I'll delete my Nairaland account.

musicwriter:


If you're able to show me any form of writing that existed before the hieroglyphs I'll delete my Nairaland account.

Cuneiform script dating back to ~3500 BC.

Edit: And since you specifically said "any form of writing", here's another even further back:

- Jiahu symbols of China - ~6600 BC

CryptoCoinr:


Cuneiform script dating back to ~3500 BC.

Edit: And since you specifically said "any form of writing", here's another even further back:

- Jiahu symbols of China - ~6600 BC

Of course, your education makes you choose inferiority, so even if African hieroglyphs and civilization is older you prefer your inferiority by giving the credit to Sumerians and Chinese. The first form of writing was invented by the first people on the earth- AFRICANS.

Kemet civilization is at least 1,000 older than Sumerian.

Kemet civilization is at least 3,000 older than Chinese.

musicwriter:



Of course, your education makes you chose inferiority, so even if African hieroglyphs and civilization is older you prefer your inferiority by giving the credit to Sumerians and Chinese. The first form of writing was invented by the first people on the earth- AFRICANS.

Kemet civilization is at least 1,000 older than Sumerian.

Kemet civilization is at least 3,000 older than Chinese.

The evidence shows your claims to be decidedly false and no sort of ad hominem will help you. It's time to delete your account.

CryptoCoinr:


The evidence shows your claims to be decidedly false and no sort of ad hominem will help you. It's time to delete your account.

The only thing I'll advise you is stop passing your inferiority to others.

musicwriter:


The only thing I'll advise you is stop passing your inferiority to others.

Ah yes, like I expected. You've lost but instead of standing by your word, you continue flinging inane ad hominems at me hoping to gain favor. A hypocritical sore loser. Bravo.

CryptoCoinr:


Ah yes, like I expected. You've lost but instead of standing by your word, you continue flinging inane ad hominems at me hoping to gain favor. A hypocritical sore loser. Bravo.

Not all of us would be saved. You're far gone and this very post isn't for you.

This youtube channel is maintained by a linguist (white) and its devoted to the origin of language and writing. Anybody interested should see this video for the origin of writing. Its just about 10 minutes long.

How Egypt invented writing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBiuJ40t4rk

musicwriter:


Not all of us would be saved. You're far gone and this very post isn't for you.

[ -- flailing --]

And the coward continues to double down on his hypocrisy. If you had even an ounce of dignity your account would've been deleted by now.

kay9:


This is totally an aside...

@JennyOfOldstones, your name caught my fancy. Why haven't I seen you in the GoT thread over at TV/Movies?

I do visit the thread but I'm more of a silent observer

CryptoCoinr:


And the coward continues to double down on his hypocrisy. If you had even an ounce of dignity your account would've been deleted by now.

Coward? He just dusted your claims and provided several links and videos to support his arguments, and you dub him "coward"?? Dude, you're just hopeless. Feel free to wallow in your self-imposed ignorance.

@musicwriter, nice work bruv. We need more of you.

kay9:


Coward? He just dusted your claims and provided several links and videos to support his claims, and you dub him "coward"??

Did you get lost or are you willfully selectively blind?

CryptoCoinr:


Cuneiform script dating back to ~3500 BC.

Edit: And since you specifically said "any form of writing", here's another even further back:

- Jiahu symbols of China - ~6600 BC

He provided 1 link that in no way substantiates his claim and unreferenced images which when Reverse Imaged, still offer nothing to bolster his claim.

Dude, you're just hopeless. Feel free to wallow in your self-imposed ignorance.

It's very hard to take the claim of me being in self-imposed ignorance seriously when you can't tell the difference between 6600 BC, 3500 BC and 3000 BC, can't see two inches in front of you when that tribalistic mindset sets in and can't seem to tell the difference between inventing alphabets and inventing writing. Perhaps project less in the future, it'll help you look less inane.

JennyOfOldstones:
I do visit the thread but I'm more of a silent observer

You seem like your feet are well-grounded in the ASOIAF trivia.. ^{..and your first name is prolly Jennifer.}

The thread is flooded with "children of summer" right now and it gets tiring reading their comments sometimes. We could use a fresh and informed perspective.

kay9:


You seem like your feet are well-grounded in the ASOIAF trivia.. ^{..and your first name is prolly Jennifer.}

The thread is flooded with "children of summer" right now and it gets tiring reading their comments sometimes. We could use a fresh and informed perspective.

No, my name isn't Jennifer...and I really don't think I'm grounded in ASOIAF trivia. I see things on forums that still surprise me and leave me wondering if I actually read the books at all. I still haven't read Adwd properly

JennyOfOldstones:
No, my name isn't Jennifer...and I really don't think I'm grounded in ASOIAF trivia. I see things on forums that still surprise me and leave me wondering if I actually read the books at all. I still haven't read Adwd properly

You should do a re-read. It's fun.

CryptoCoinr:


Did you get lost or are you willfully selectively blind?



He provided 1 link that in no way substantiates his claim and unreferenced images which when Reverse Imaged, still offer nothing to bolster his claim.


It's very hard to take the claim of me being in self-imposed ignorance seriously when you can't tell the difference between 6600 BC, 3500 BC and 3000 BC, can't see two inches in front of you when that tribalistic mindset sets in and can't seem to tell the difference between inventing alphabets and inventing writing. Perhaps project less in the future, it'll help you look less inane.

Do you know how old Kemet civilization is? We are talking about millions of years and you are talking few thousands? Life began in Kemet. At least according to the science of archeology and genetics, the first humans lived in Kemet about 1.5 million years ago. Kemet history is so old its called pre-history i. e they've been before history!.

And now you acknowledge they invented alphabets. What did they use alphabets for?

Still displaying your cowardice I see.

musicwriter:


Do you know how old Kemet civilization is? We are talking about millions of years and you are talking few thousands? Life began in Kemet. At least according to the science of archeology and genetics, the first humans lived in Kemet about 1.5 million years ago. Kemet history is so old its called pre-history i. e they've been before history!.

And the legitimate evidence for all these your claims are? BTW, according to the "science" that has time stretching back 1.5 MYA, life began ~4 BYA and Africa, much less Egypt, didn't even exist.

And now you acknowledge they invented alphabets.

No I didn't. The very video you linked to even acknowledges @4:04 that the Egyptians were a child to a parent group responsible for what lead to alphabets.

What did they use alphabets for?

Irrelevant.

CryptoCoinr:
Still displaying your cowardice I see.



And the legitimate evidence for all these your claims are? BTW, according to the "science" that has time stretching back 1.5 MYA, life began ~4 BYA and Africa, much less Egypt, didn't even exist.



No I didn't. The very video you linked to even acknowledges @4:04 that the Egyptians were a child to a parent group responsible for what lead to alphabets.



Irrelevant.

Talking to you amounts to talking to a dead man.

And you say Africa didn't even exist millions of years ago, so where did the first humans live?

I told you the original name is Kemet (Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Kenya) these cultures themselves it thought to have come from lower part of Africa. So, if the narrator says Egyptian writing comes from the lower part of the continent, he/she could actually be talking about West Africa which is still Africa. So, you can see the history is so old nobody can even date it in thousands of years since it runs to millions of years.

musicwriter:


Talking to you amounts to talking to a dead man.

Projection. Seeing you trip over yourself time and time again makes it worth it though.

And you say Africa didn't even exist millions of years ago, so where did the first humans live?

Ever heard of Pangaea? You and your cheerleader kay9 might want to brush up on your general knowledge before going further.

I told you the original name is Kemet (Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Kenya) these cultures themselves it thought to have come from lower part of Africa. So, if the narrator says Egyptian writing comes from the lower part of the continent, he/she could actually be talking about West Africa which is still Africa. So, you can see the history is so old nobody can even date it in thousands of years since it runs to millions of years.

You can continue to make spurious sounding claims like this but until you're able to provide a shred of legitimate evidence for it, it's nothing but hot air.

CryptoCoinr:


Projection. Seeing you trip over yourself time and time again makes it worth it though.



Ever heard of Pangaea? You and your cheerleader kay9 might want to brush up on your general knowledge before going further.



You can continue to make spurious sounding claims like this but until you're able to provide a shred of legitimate evidence for it, it's nothing but hot air.

And you don't even know the first humans lived in Africa?

It don't worth it continuing this discussion. I' am out.

musicwriter:


And you don't even know the first humans lived in Africa?

It don't worth it continuing this discussion. I' am out.

Coward, keep on regurgitating this and I'll keep asking you to back up your claims.

CryptoCoinr:


Coward, keep on regurgitating this and I'll keep asking you to back up your claims.

Men..... .. you're totally far back from basic knowledge about Africa and the world. You need serious assistance to get you out of where you are.

National geographic channel a science oriented channel documentary on the origin of the human race. See documentary below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTU353BN-wM

Anybody who don't have enough data can watch this short documentary by history Channel summarizing the same thing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMOtzeJzPf4

musicwriter:


Men..... .. you're totally far back from basic knowledge about Africa and the world. You need serious assistance to get you out of where you are.

I love how you take your delusions so seriously.

National geographic channel a science oriented channel documentary on the origin of the human race. See documentary below.

[ -- snip --]

So I say: "according to the "science" that has time stretching back 1.5 MYA, [b]life began ~4 BYA[/b]and Africa, much less Egypt, didn't even exist" and "Ever heard of Pangaea?" and your retort is National Geographic and a video about how humans supposedly "evolved"? , this is fun.