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Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by lordcenred(m): 12:33pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
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Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by amjustme2: 1:13pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
Skynet "I love Your Shoes" I Love your Cloths" "Hmm, Nice Bike" |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 1:18pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
musicwriter: Apart from the other issues with your claims, are you sure you want to live in a country with its indigenenes encouraged to speak over 200 distinct languages on a day-to-day basis, talk less of a continent with over 1000? 1 Like |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by musicwriter(m): 1:38pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
CryptoCoinr: By this question; are you implying we began to communicate ourselves in Africa when we began to speak English? |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 1:49pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
musicwriter: Well, communication can be done with more than just written/spoken language so no. Strictly speaking though, there's no evidence of written language in Africa prior to colonialism, none that I've seen at least. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by musicwriter(m): 2:35pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
CryptoCoinr: You've began shifting your argument already even before it began!. Well, let me leave you on spoken language since at least you have common sense enough to work it out yourself that we must have been communicating ourselves before English. Now to Writing............ Writing originated in Kemet (the region known today as Egypt, Sudan, Kenya, Uganda) and it was from here it spread to the rest of the world. The first form of writing was the hieroglyphs (symbolic writing) which later evolved to scripts. This was 3,000 years before Jesus was born!!. By this time in history Europe was a forest. Hieroglyph (the first know form of writing) This site has done a good job on how to decode hieroglyphs. See http://www.omniglot.com/writing/egyptian.htm And if you think Egypt is far, here's an Igbo NSIDIBE script, and it was the original script used in writing the Igbo language before Britain arrived Nigeria and imposed the Latin script. Nsidibe script (the original script for Igbo language) I' am working out how these things could be taught on TV, cause we're far gone!. Otherwise, how could any so called educated African shamelessly say Europeans gave us writing!. The Yorubas, Bini's, Zulus, e.t.c every other African language had their scripts, but all these we lost during our 450 years in slavery. Writing originated in Africa!!. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 2:40pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
musicwriter: You lost me at the point you claimed I was shifting my argument. That is so very clearly a strawman. And if you want to contradict years of historical research, palaeography and archaeology because of what appears of be an envious tribalistic mindset then you need more than a bunch of unsubstantiated claims, an edited image linking to a spurious website and exclamation marks. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by musicwriter(m): 2:55pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
CryptoCoinr: Enjoy your mis-education, but stop passing it to others. The site I gave you is a language resource site maintained by white people, not by Africans. A British scholar named Wallace Budge translated the African hieroglyphs to English. A french scholar named Jean-Francois Campollion translated the African hieroglyphs to French. These are open information for you to verify and get yourself cured. 2 Likes |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 4:08pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
musicwriter: Likewise. Like I said earlier, "[y]ou lost me at the point you claimed I was shifting my argument' which is why you have the previous version of my post which was a product of me skimming over every other claim in your post. A British scholar named Wallace Budge translated the African hieroglyphs to English. Information about this is indeed very open. Use it and you might find out the first form of writing was not hieroglyphics and did not originate in Africa. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by musicwriter(m): 4:22pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
CryptoCoinr: If you're able to show me any form of writing that existed before the hieroglyphs I'll delete my Nairaland account. 1 Like |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 4:37pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
musicwriter: Cuneiform script dating back to ~3500 BC. Edit: And since you specifically said "any form of writing", here's another even further back: - Jiahu symbols of China - ~6600 BC |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by musicwriter(m): 4:52pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
CryptoCoinr: Of course, your education makes you choose inferiority, so even if African hieroglyphs and civilization is older you prefer your inferiority by giving the credit to Sumerians and Chinese. The first form of writing was invented by the first people on the earth- AFRICANS. Kemet civilization is at least 1,000 older than Sumerian. Kemet civilization is at least 3,000 older than Chinese. 1 Like |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 5:00pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
musicwriter: The evidence shows your claims to be decidedly false and no sort of ad hominem will help you. It's time to delete your account. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by musicwriter(m): 5:05pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
CryptoCoinr: The only thing I'll advise you is stop passing your inferiority to others. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 5:07pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
musicwriter: Ah yes, like I expected. You've lost but instead of standing by your word, you continue flinging inane ad hominems at me hoping to gain favor. A hypocritical sore loser. Bravo. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by musicwriter(m): 5:24pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
CryptoCoinr: Not all of us would be saved. You're far gone and this very post isn't for you. This youtube channel is maintained by a linguist (white) and its devoted to the origin of language and writing. Anybody interested should see this video for the origin of writing. Its just about 10 minutes long. How Egypt invented writing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBiuJ40t4rk 1 Like |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 5:31pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
musicwriter: And the coward continues to double down on his hypocrisy. If you had even an ounce of dignity your account would've been deleted by now. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by JennyOfOldstones(f): 6:46pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
kay9:I do visit the thread but I'm more of a silent observer |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by kay9(m): 8:03pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by kay9(m): 8:21pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
CryptoCoinr: Coward? He just dusted your claims and provided several links and videos to support his arguments, and you dub him "coward"?? Dude, you're just hopeless. Feel free to wallow in your self-imposed ignorance. @musicwriter, nice work bruv. We need more of you. 3 Likes |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 8:24pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
kay9: Did you get lost or are you willfully selectively blind? CryptoCoinr: He provided 1 link that in no way substantiates his claim and unreferenced images which when Reverse Imaged, still offer nothing to bolster his claim. Dude, you're just hopeless. Feel free to wallow in your self-imposed ignorance. It's very hard to take the claim of me being in self-imposed ignorance seriously when you can't tell the difference between 6600 BC, 3500 BC and 3000 BC, can't see two inches in front of you when that tribalistic mindset sets in and can't seem to tell the difference between inventing alphabets and inventing writing. Perhaps project less in the future, it'll help you look less inane. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by kay9(m): 8:29pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
JennyOfOldstones: You seem like your feet are well-grounded in the ASOIAF trivia.. ..and your first name is prolly Jennifer. The thread is flooded with "children of summer" right now and it gets tiring reading their comments sometimes. We could use a fresh and informed perspective. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by JennyOfOldstones(f): 10:10pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
kay9:No, my name isn't Jennifer...and I really don't think I'm grounded in ASOIAF trivia. I see things on forums that still surprise me and leave me wondering if I actually read the books at all. I still haven't read Adwd properly |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by kay9(m): 10:40pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
JennyOfOldstones: You should do a re-read. It's fun. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by musicwriter(m): 11:14pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
CryptoCoinr: Do you know how old Kemet civilization is? We are talking about millions of years and you are talking few thousands? Life began in Kemet. At least according to the science of archeology and genetics, the first humans lived in Kemet about 1.5 million years ago. Kemet history is so old its called pre-history i. e they've been before history!. And now you acknowledge they invented alphabets. What did they use alphabets for? 1 Like |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 11:24pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
Still displaying your cowardice I see. musicwriter: And the legitimate evidence for all these your claims are? BTW, according to the "science" that has time stretching back 1.5 MYA, life began ~4 BYA and Africa, much less Egypt, didn't even exist. And now you acknowledge they invented alphabets. No I didn't. The very video you linked to even acknowledges @4:04 that the Egyptians were a child to a parent group responsible for what lead to alphabets. What did they use alphabets for? Irrelevant. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by musicwriter(m): 11:54pm On Aug 02, 2017 |
CryptoCoinr: Talking to you amounts to talking to a dead man. And you say Africa didn't even exist millions of years ago, so where did the first humans live? I told you the original name is Kemet (Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Kenya) these cultures themselves it thought to have come from lower part of Africa. So, if the narrator says Egyptian writing comes from the lower part of the continent, he/she could actually be talking about West Africa which is still Africa. So, you can see the history is so old nobody can even date it in thousands of years since it runs to millions of years. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 12:12am On Aug 03, 2017 |
musicwriter: Projection. Seeing you trip over yourself time and time again makes it worth it though. And you say Africa didn't even exist millions of years ago, so where did the first humans live? Ever heard of Pangaea? You and your cheerleader kay9 might want to brush up on your general knowledge before going further. I told you the original name is Kemet (Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Kenya) these cultures themselves it thought to have come from lower part of Africa. So, if the narrator says Egyptian writing comes from the lower part of the continent, he/she could actually be talking about West Africa which is still Africa. So, you can see the history is so old nobody can even date it in thousands of years since it runs to millions of years. You can continue to make spurious sounding claims like this but until you're able to provide a shred of legitimate evidence for it, it's nothing but hot air. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by musicwriter(m): 12:31am On Aug 03, 2017 |
CryptoCoinr: And you don't even know the first humans lived in Africa? It don't worth it continuing this discussion. I' am out. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 12:36am On Aug 03, 2017 |
musicwriter: Coward, keep on regurgitating this and I'll keep asking you to back up your claims. |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by musicwriter(m): 12:42am On Aug 03, 2017 |
CryptoCoinr: Men..... .. you're totally far back from basic knowledge about Africa and the world. You need serious assistance to get you out of where you are. National geographic channel a science oriented channel documentary on the origin of the human race. See documentary below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTU353BN-wM Anybody who don't have enough data can watch this short documentary by history Channel summarizing the same thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMOtzeJzPf4 |
Re: Researchers Shut Down AI That Invented Its Own Language by CryptoCoinr(f): 12:48am On Aug 03, 2017 |
musicwriter: I love how you take your delusions so seriously. National geographic channel a science oriented channel documentary on the origin of the human race. See documentary below. So I say: "according to the "science" that has time stretching back 1.5 MYA, [b]life began ~4 BYA[/b]and Africa, much less Egypt, didn't even exist" and "Ever heard of Pangaea?" and your retort is National Geographic and a video about how humans supposedly "evolved"? , this is fun. |
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