CryptoCoinr:


I love how you take your delusions so seriously.



So I say: "according to the "science" that has time stretching back 1.5 MYA, [b]life began ~4 BYA[/b]and Africa, much less Egypt, didn't even exist" and "Ever heard of Pangaea?" and your retort is National Geographic and a video about how humans supposedly "evolved"? , this is fun.

I' am no longer really responding to you, cause you don't deserve it. The information is out there for those who may need it.

I' am done with the thread.

musicwriter:


I' am no longer really responding to you, cause you don't deserve it. The information is out there for those who may need it.

I' am done with the thread.

And the coward runs away. Typical.

kay9:




You should do a re-read. It's fun.

I definitely would when I'm less busy.

musicwriter:


Talking to you amounts to talking to a dead man.

And you say Africa didn't even exist millions of years ago, so where did the first humans live?

I told you the original name is Kemet (Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Kenya) these cultures themselves it thought to have come from lower part of Africa. So, if the narrator says Egyptian writing comes from the lower part of the continent, he/she could actually be talking about West Africa which is still Africa. So, you can see the history is so old nobody can even date it in thousands of years since it runs to millions of years.

Your comment isn't intended for me, but I want to correct you.

Kemet was only the name of the then Ancient Egypt not for Sudan, Ethiopia and Kenya.

Yes, Ancient Egyptians said they came from the south, but that south isn't west Africa like you said. They specifically said, they came from the land of Punt. Punt was an ancient African Kingdom that included northern Sudan, Eritrea, northern Ethiopia and Somalia.

The language of Ancient Egyptians was now part of Afro-Asiatic super family. Afro-Asiatic originated in Ethiopia.

Hati13:

Your comment isn't intended for me, but I want to correct you.

Kemet was only the name of the then Ancient Egypt not for Sudan, Ethiopia and Kenya.

Yes, Ancient Egyptians said they came from the south, but that south isn't west Africa like you said. They specifically said, they came from the land of Punt. Punt was an ancient African Kingdom that included northern Sudan, Eritrea, northern Ethiopia and Somalia.

The language of Ancient Egyptians was now part of Afro-Asiatic super family. Afro-Asiatic originated in NE Africa(HOA or Northern Africa) about 10,000 years ago. Through time the then one language had been branched to different family language and now they are:-
- Cushitic family language
- Semitic family language
- Omotic family language
- Berber family language
- Chadic family language
- Ancient Egyptian language (extinct)

This's probably a second account of the other novice, but assuming you're someone else who have some information to share or honestly would want to know, I'll explain it to you.

Be informed, Sudan, Kenya, ;except Ethiopia, all these countries were created between 1884-1885 at the Berlin conference. Before then, they were collectively regarded as same. Just the same way Nigeria and environ were collectively regarded as "Niger-area" before it became Nigeria. Other less popular parts were simply called lower/South Egypt. In fact, Egypt itself was actually called "upper" Egypt not just Egypt. The Bible book of Isiah 11:11 mentioned it in its proper way.

The map you posted there has nothing to do with the point you're making, in fact you probably copied that piece somewhere and if you understand the history you'll understand its incoherently presented. Phut not Pnut is thought of being anywhere from Libya and the Mediterranean, not African hinterland. Just take a look of map of Africa and you'll clearly see where southern part of Egypt is. When you say Southern part of Egypt it could loosely extend anywhere from Kenya to not only West Africa, but down to South Africa. Just take a look at map of Africa and it becomes self explanatory.

Map of Africa

musicwriter:


This's probably a second account of the other novice, but assuming you're someone else who have some information to share or honestly would want to know, I'll explain it to you.

Be informed, Sudan, Kenya, ;except Ethiopia, all these countries were created between 1884-1885 at the Berlin conference. Before then, they were collectively regarded as same. Just the same way Nigeria and environ were collectively regarded as "Niger-area" before it became Nigeria. Other less popular parts were simply called lower/South Egypt. In fact, Egypt itself was actually called "upper" Egypt not just Egypt. The Bible book of Isiah 11:11 mentioned it in its proper way.

The map you posted there has nothing to do with the point you're making, in fact you probably copied that piece somewhere and if you understand the history you'll understand its incoherently presented. Phut not Pnut is thought of being anywhere from Libya and the Mediterranean, not African hinterland. Just take a look of map of Africa and you'll clearly see where southern part of Egypt is. When you say Southern part of Egypt it could loosely extend anywhere from Kenya to not only West Africa, but down to South Africa. Just take a look at map of Africa and it becomes self explanatory.

Map of Africa

I'm no one except myself.

The pic I posted is related to what I'm saying. You said, Ancient Egyptian writing system could have came from west Africa and I indirectly told you using the pic that no, it wasn't from west Africa, rather from East Africa.

I agree in some of your points, but Phut/Punt was nowhere in Libya or Mediterranean region. There are 2 theories for it's location. One theory is that it located in East Africa while the other say it was in Arabia. But recent research is saying it was definitely located in the HOA(Eritrea, Ethiopia and Somalia).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Punt

musicwriter:


This's probably a second account of the other novice, but assuming you're someone else who have some information to share or honestly would want to know, I'll explain it to you.

Oh coward, he's not me but at least he got you to further make unsubstantiated claims.

Be informed, Sudan, Kenya, ;except Ethiopia, all these countries were created between 1884-1885 at the Berlin conference. Before then, they were collectively regarded as same.

No it wasn't.

(Northern) Sudan was, and I quote:

in ancient times the Kingdom of Nubia, which came under Egyptian rule after 2600 BC

Just the same way Nigeria and environ were collectively regarded as "Niger-area" before it became Nigeria.

Niger-area according to whom?

Other less popular parts were simply called lower/South Egypt. In fact, Egypt itself was actually called "upper" Egypt not just Egypt. The Bible book of Isiah 11:11 mentioned it in its proper way.

And the evidence linking your claims to reality is? Or is this just hot air?

The map you posted there has nothing to do with the point you're making, in fact you probably copied that piece somewhere and if you understand the history you'll understand its incoherently presented.

You've given ample evidence that it is you who doesn't understand history (else your account would be deleted by now) so back up your claims.

Phut not Pnut is thought of being anywhere from Libya and the Mediterranean, not African hinterland. Just take a look of map of Africa and you'll clearly see where southern part of Egypt is. When you say Southern part of Egypt it could loosely extend anywhere from Kenya to not only West Africa, but down to South Africa. Just take a look at map of Africa and it becomes self explanatory.

The Southern part of Egypt ends where the Northern part of Sudan starts. It's no more reasonable to say SA is part of Egypt than it is to say China is part of Russia simply because one is above the other. That's a non-sequitur.

Hati13:

I'm no one except myself.

The pic I posted is related to what I'm saying. You said, Ancient Egyptian writing system could have came from west Africa and I indirectly told you using the pic that no, it wasn't from west Africa, rather from East Africa.

I agree in some of your points, but Phut/Punt was nowhere in Libya or Mediterranean region. There are 2 theories for it's location. One theory is that it located in East Africa while the other say it was in Arabia. But recent research is saying it was definitely located in the HOA(Eritrea, Ethiopia and Somalia).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Punt

At least you have something meaningful to say and not the other guy telling us writing first emerged in China and Sumeria.

Yes, it's plausible Egyptian ancient scripts came from Ethiopia and that was actually part of the claim I was making and of course, they're other theories that support the West African narrative. Dr. Ben Josef Joachannan (an Egyptologist) even though he's Ethiopian, supports the theory the Kemetians migrated from West Africa.

Again, Phut is thought of as anything from Lybia, the Mediterranean, and may be Middle East, but not East Africa. East Africa is Cushite (Ethiopian) lands.

musicwriter:


At least you have something meaningful to say and not the other guy telling us writing first emerged in China and Sumeria.

The coward continues with his strawman arguments. Read it, with comprehension:

CryptoCoinr:

musicwriter post=59081386:


If you're able to show me any form of writing that existed before the hieroglyphs I'll delete my Nairaland account.

Cuneiform script dating back to ~3500 BC.

Edit: And since you specifically said "any form of writing", here's another even further back:

- Jiahu symbols of China - ~6600 BC

You asked for "any form of writing" that preceded hieroglyphics and if I did show you, you'd delete your account. I gave you two but rather than keeping to your promise, you continue to show your shameless cowardice in every post.

musicwriter:


At least you have something meaningful to say and not the other guy telling us writing first emerged in China and Sumeria.

Yes, it's plausible Egyptian ancient scripts came from Ethiopia and that was actually part of the claim I was making and of course, they're other theories that support the West African narrative. Dr. Ben Josef Joachannan (an Egyptologist) even though he's Ethiopian, supports the theory the Kemetians migrated from West Africa.

Again, Phut is thought of as anything from Lybia, the Mediterranean, and may be Middle East, but not East Africa. East Africa is Cushite (Ethiopian) lands.

Punt/Phut is a Kingdom, not a ppl.

Yes, Ethiopians are predominantly Cushite ppl, but this didn't had anything to do with not being part of Punt Kingdom.

Search online if you want and you will know that Punt had nothing to do with Libya or Mediterranean region. Punt location was in Sudan and HOA like I said previously.

Hati13:

Punt/Phut is a Kingdom, not a ppl.

Yes, Ethiopians are predominantly Cushite ppl, but this didn't had anything to do with not being part of Punt Kingdom.

Search online if you want and you will know that Punt had nothing to do with Libya or Mediterranean region. Punt location was in Sudan and HOA like I said previously.

A people makes a kingdom. What's a kingdom without people?

Finally, I' am talking about PHUT mentioned at Genesis 1-11 (KJV) from where western education itself got the name. I have no idea where you got Pnut or Punt or whatever you have. Of course, Ethiopians are related to Phut. There were the sons of Ham; namely, Cush, Mizraim, Phut, and Canaan.

Ok, I' am done with the thread. See you later.

musicwriter:


A people makes a kingdom. What's a kingdom without people?

Finally, I' am talking about PHUT mentioned at Genesis 1-11 (KJV) from where western education itself got the name. I have no idea where you got Pnut or Punt or whatever you have. Of course, Ethiopians are related to Phut. There were the sons of Ham; namely, Cush, Mizraim, Phut, and Canaan.

Ok, I' am done with the thread. See you later.

Analyzing History from the perspective of the Bible will mostly result in inaccurate conclusion/s.

Peace and see you later also.

Hati13:

Analyzing History from the perspective of the Bible will mostly result in inaccurate conclusion/s.

Peace and see you later also.

Phut and most other terminologies in ancient Egypt was gotten from the bible. The bible itself (old testament) was copied from the Egyptian Book of Coming Forth to Day from Night which was part of their own bible- the source of all other so called holy books. The bible is a historical document owing to its age, even if its a myth. So, its not a question of religion as I' am not a religious person.

Hati13:

Analyzing History from the perspective of the Bible will mostly result in inaccurate conclusion/s.

Is this sarcasm?

musicwriter:


Phut and most other terminologies in ancient Egypt was gotten from the bible. The bible itself (old testament) was copied from the Egyptian Book of Coming Forth to Day from Nigh which was their own bible- the source of all other so called holy books.

Another categorically false and unsubstantiated claim from the coward given the fact that the Bible, or specifically, the events described therein predates that book, also called the "Book of the Dead" (which is actually majorly a book of spells), by at least 500 years and any attempt to link the two would be the result of butchered logic.

musicwriter:


Phut and most other terminologies in ancient Egypt was gotten from the bible. The bible itself (old testament) was copied from the Egyptian Book of Coming Forth to Day from Night which was part of their own bible- the source of all other so called holy books. The bible is a historical document owing to its age, even if its a myth. So, its not a question of religion as I' am not a religious person.

Peace then

CryptoCoinr:
Is this sarcasm?.

No, it isn't. I'm just telling him from my angle.

Hati13:

No, it isn't. I'm just telling him from my angle.

Hmm, I disagree but would rather not get into it.