kingsleybrave:

Certified IMBICILE.,.,,,is ur backward STATE free of insane men as a result of ritualist and tendency 4 quick wealth?
what gave you d impetus to mention my state?

colossus91:

Unku sensé the legendary sense giver borrow that your sense to ajimobi.......meanwhile ibadan has more mad than normal pipu u and i knw it............ no cry ehn

elawee55:
Wait till next full moon... I'm just saying... Granny knows best!

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thesicilian:
Can't blame them for chaining him. Cost of psychiatric treatment is high in Nigeria. I hope the government now can take better care of him.

Memories12411:
Is there no better way to treat him. Why such a cruel way of treatment?

IamaNigerianGuy:


Are you speculating or what ? Psychiatric treatment is the cheapest type of treatment in Nigeria. You can treat most serious patients with between 1,000 and 5,000 naira monthly.

IamaNigerianGuy:


Are you speculating or what ? Psychiatric treatment is the cheapest type of treatment in Nigeria. You can treat most serious patients with between 1,000 and 5,000 naira monthly.

frenzyduchess:
and who is going to be paying this 1000 - 5000k monthly? The grandma?

thesicilian:

Which of the psychiatric hospitals have you worked before that charges 1 to 5k monthly?!

MissRaine69:
This is a country where access to good ( this is open to intrepretation)healthcare is not possible for many. superstition is rife and it does not help and finally it's pertinent to note that not many have choice in regards access to psychiatric care. To those condemning the grandmother what would you have her do? Assuming she had little or no money, preferred the grandson at home rather than be roaming the streets? Before you exercise your keyboard warrior skills think ( not always possible for some) try nonetheless.

IamaNigerianGuy:


The grandma is not the parent. Where are the parents ? It is quite alluring to plead poverty as a reason for his incarceration but this does not pass muster. The world has moved on from this barbaric approach. The parents need to be called to account.

MissRaine69:

That's assuming there are parents to speak off. And secondly step down from your soap box and step into the real Nigeria the one that's past the facade of wealth and riches. This young man is not the only one in this situation. Condemning the grandmother is NOT going to address the problem the question should be why resort to this in the first instance?

IamaNigerianGuy:


Is it not better to source for 3,000 monthly from friends, relatives, pastors and imams than to tie up a human being like a goat ? Psychiatric illness is debilitating and stigmatic but not the end of the world for all patients. Some people have gone on to become great scholars Nobel prize winners,political figures etc A very famous Nigerian I know has a severe mental disorder but you never can tell.
So I don't really get the point you are making. It would certainly appear to me that the family should bear the cost of treatment

IamaNigerianGuy:


You appear firmly wedded to your opinion. First you assume that there are no parents, second you assert that I have criticized the grandmother - I can't remember doing so. Third, you admit poverty as an excuse for this inhumane treatment: that is a very slippery slope you are treading. Where do we draw the line? Is child slavery acceptable on account of poverty? Are ritual killings? Sex trafficking ? I don't accept your argument or its implications. Even if the country has failed us , we should not fail ourselves.

1.Someone must take responsibility, and the most logical first line candidates are the family members.
2.People should learn from this example and desist from this barbaric practice.
3 Mental illness is not incurable, it is manageable and as I have asserted before, it is relatively cheap to do so.
4 People with psychiatric disorders should not be tied up like animals.

Which of these points do you disagree with ?

IamaNigerianGuy:


You appear firmly wedded to your opinion. First you assume that there are no parents, second you assert that I have criticized the grandmother - I can't remember doing so. Third, you admit poverty as an excuse for this inhumane treatment: that is a very slippery slope you are treading. Where do we draw the line? Is child slavery acceptable on account of poverty? Are ritual killings? Sex trafficking ? I don't accept your argument or its implications. Even if the country has failed us , we should not fail ourselves.

1.Someone must take responsibility, and the most logical first line candidates are the family members.
2.People should learn from this example and desist from this barbaric practice.
3 Mental illness is not incurable, it is manageable and as I have asserted before, it is relatively cheap to do so.
4 People with psychiatric disorders should not be tied up like animals.

Which of these points do you disagree with ?

IamaNigerianGuy:


Is it not better to source for 3,000 monthly from friends, relatives, pastors and imams than to tie up a human being like a goat ? Psychiatric illness is debilitating and stigmatic but not the end of the world for all patients. Some people have gone on to become great scholars Nobel prize winners,political figures etc A very famous Nigerian I know has a severe mental disorder but you never can tell.
So I don't really get the point you are making. It would certainly appear to me that the family should bear the cost of treatment

frenzyduchess:

so this month,old grandma sources for funds ,next month she does too and every other month after?,you folks say something's online that are not practical.

I know of a case that the patient was thrown out of the hospital to be roaming the streets cos his family could no longer afford to pay his bills. Ordinary anti-malaria that has gone up,people price it like crayfish.

I think two major reasons are poverty and ignorance .some of this cases would have easily be treated with cheap medication before developing into full blown psychosis but our superstious belief will make them running to spirtual houses instead of seeking medical help.

Personally i dont see any thing wrong in putting him in chains if he has become violent after all even in the psychiatric hospitals some patients are restricted with belts and all.

IamaNigerianGuy:


Government hospitals. After the initial cost of registration, tests etc maintenance can be very low if you avoid brand name drugs and use generics. Many Nigerian psychiatrists innovate to their patients advantage and bring costs down.
The major factor preventing people from seeking treatment are ignorance and fear of stigmatization.

IamaNigerianGuy:



I have noticed that we Africans consciously and unconsciously accept low standards for ourselves. It is very practical to seek treatment, perhaps they lack knowledge of where to go.


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Agreed.



You are in error there. Restraining a patient in a psychiatric facility because he is a danger to himself or others is not the same as chaining someone. They may look similar outwardly but they arise from different motivations and perspectives. The latter can get you in legal trouble as a health practitioner (even in Nigeria). The goal of restraints is to prevent harm while treatment is going on, though some patients (a small number) will require extended, maybe permanent, management of this type. Hospitals NEVER restrain patients with chains.

In fact, one of the landmark events of modern psychiatry can be traced back to 1795 in France when Dr Phillipe Pinel ordered the removal of chains from an inmate of the Paris asylum. If we are still debating the issue today on NL then that indicates how far Nigeria has to go.

Poverty is not the issue; ignorance is.