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I Grew Up In The Church by Deen4me(m): 5:06pm On Feb 19, 2010
Salam Alaikum ,

I came across this interesting write up , I wanted to share it .

There are some few things to learn from it.


By Afrah Alshaibani

May 2, 1996. Ever since I can remember, my family attended a non-denominational conservative Christian church (Church of Christ). I grew up in the church, taught bible school and sang in the choir. As a young teenager I began asking questions (as I think everyone does at one point in their lives): Why was I a member of the Church of Christ and not say Lutheran, Catholic or Methodist? If various churches are teaching conflicting doctrine, how do we know which one is right? Are they all right? Do 'all paths lead to God' as I had heard some say? Others say that as long as you are a good person it doesn't matter what you believe - is that true?

After some soul searching I decided that I did believe that there was an ultimate truth and in an attempt to find that truth I began a comparison study of various churches. I decided that I believed in the Bible and would join the church that best followed the Bible. After a lengthy study, I decided to stay with the Church of Christ, satisfied that its doctrines were biblically sound (unaware at this stage that there could be various interpretations of the Bible).

I spent a year at Michigan Christian College, a small college affiliated with the Churches of Christ, but was not challenged academically and so transferred to Western Michigan University. Having applied late for student housing, I was placed in the international dorm. Although my roommate was American, I felt surrounded by strange people from strange places. It was in fact my first real experience with cultural diversity and it scared me (having been raised in a white, middle class, Christian community). I wanted to change dorms but there wasn't anything available. I did really like my roommate and decided to stick out the semester.

My roommate became very involved in the dorm activities and got to know most everyone in the dorm. I however performed with the marching band and spent most of my time with band people. Marching season soon ended and finding myself with time on my hands, I joined my roommate on her adventures around the dorm. It turned out to be a wonderful, fascinating experience! There were a large number of Arab men living in the dorm. They were charming, handsome, and a lot of fun to be around. My roommate started dating one of them and we ended up spending most of our time with the Arabs. I guess I knew they were Muslims (although very few of them were practicing). We never really discussed religion, we were just having fun.

The year passed and I had started seeing one of the Arabs. Again, we were just enjoying each other's company and never discussed our religious differences. Neither of us were practicing at this time so it never really became an issue for us. I did, deep down, feel guilty for not attending church, but I pushed it in the back of my mind. I was having too much fun.

Another year passed and I was home for summer vacation when my roommate called me with some very distressing news: she'd become a Muslim!! I was horrified. She didn't tell me why she converted, just that she had spent a lot of time talking with her boyfriend's brother and it all made sense to her. After we hung up, I immediately wrote her a long letter explaining that she was ruining her life and to just give Christianity one more chance. That same summer my boyfriend transferred to Azusa Pacific University in California. We decided to get married and move to California together. Again, since neither one were practicing, religion was not discussed.

Secretly I started reading books on Islam. However I read books that were written by non-Muslims. One of the books I read was Islam Revealed by Anis Sorosh. I felt guilty about my friend's conversion. I felt that if I had been a better Christian, she would have turned to the church rather than Islam. Islam was a man-made religion, I believed, and filled with contradictions. After reading Sorosh's book, I thought I could convert my friend and my husband to Christianity.

At APU, my husband was required to take a few religion courses. One day he came home from class and said: "The more I learn about Christianity, the stronger my belief in Islam becomes." At about this same time he started showing signs of wanting to practice his religion again. Our problems began. We started talking about religion and arguing about our different beliefs. He told me I should learn about Islam and I told him I already knew everything I needed to know. I got out Sorosh's book and told him I could never believe in Islam. My husband is not a scholar by any stretch of the imagination, yet he had an answer for everything I showed him in Sorosh's book. I was impressed by his knowledge. He told me that if I really wanted to learn about Islam it must be through Islamic sources. He bought a few books for me from an Islamic bookstore and I started taking classes at a local mosque. What a difference the Islam I learned about from Muslim sources from the Islam I learned about from non-Muslims!

It was so difficult though when I actually decided to convert. My pride stood in the way for awhile. How could I admit to my husband and my friend that they were right all along? I felt humiliated, embarrassed. Soon though, I could deny the truth no longer, swallowed my pride, and alhamdulilah, embraced Islam - the best decision I ever made.

A few things I want to say to the non-Muslim reader:

[b]1. When I originally began my search for the truth all those years ago, I made a few wrong assumptions. First, I assumed that the truth is with Christianity only. It never occurred to me at that time to look outside Christianity. Second, I assumed that the Bible was the true Word of God. These were bad assumptions because they prohibited me from looking at things objectively. When I began my earnest study of Islam, I had to start at the very beginning, with no preconceived ideas. I was not a Christian looking at Islam; I looked at both Islam and Christianity (and many other religions) from the point of view of an outsider. My advice to you is to be a critical thinker and a critical reader.

2. Another mistake that many people make when talking about Islam is that they pick out a certain teaching and judge the whole of Islam on that one point. For example, many people say that Islam is prejudiced towards women because Islamic laws of inheritance award the male twice as much as the female. What they fail to learn, however, is that males have financial responsibilities in Islam that females do not have. It is like putting a puzzle together: until you have all the pieces in the right places, you cannot make a statement about the picture, you cannot look at one little piece of the puzzle and judge the whole picture.

3. Many people said that the only reason I converted was because of my husband. It is true that I studied Islam because he asked me to - but I accepted Islam because it is the truth. My husband and I are currently separated and plan to divorce in June, insha' Allah. My faith in Islam has never been stronger than it is now. I look forward to finding a practicing Muslim husband, insha' Allah, and growing in my faith and practice. Being a good Muslim is my number one priority.
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May Allah lead all of us closer to the truth.


Source http://new-muslims-world..com/2009/10/i-grew-up-in-church.html
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by jamila10(f): 8:58am On Feb 21, 2010

it is really an intersting experience we have have to consider it carefully!

it made me feel we are responsible of what others think about Islam through our behaviours!
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 10:46am On Feb 22, 2010
Alhamdullilah for u sister,may Allah(swt) see us all through insha Allah amin


I WAS A CHRISTIAN TOO BEFORE I BECAME A MUSLIM
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Deen4me(m): 11:53am On Feb 22, 2010
@ jamila10

Unfortunately the flow of actions is you meet Muslims before you meet Islam

And if you are unfortunate to meet non practicing ones you might be put off

I always say don't learn the deen from Muslims but learn it from the Source which is the Holy Quran and Sunnah of the

Rasul PBUH.

@ uplawal

A lot of us Muslims born into Islam never fully appreciate the favor of which Allah has granted us.

Its a good beginning lets pray the journey ends well
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 1:18pm On Feb 22, 2010
@deen4me,yeah its true,may Allah guide us all,amin
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by chakula: 3:45pm On Feb 22, 2010
Allah is gretest and for Him everything is possible
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by GODSON2009(m): 6:39pm On Feb 22, 2010
Deen4me:

Salam Alaikum ,

I came across this interesting write up , I wanted to share it .

There are some few things to learn from it.


By Afrah Alshaibani

May 2, 1996. Ever since I can remember, my family attended a non-denominational conservative Christian church (Church of Christ). I grew up in the church, taught bible school and sang in the choir. As a young teenager I began asking questions (as I think everyone does at one point in their lives): Why was I a member of the Church of Christ and not say Lutheran, Catholic or Methodist? If various churches are teaching conflicting doctrine, how do we know which one is right? Are they all right? Do 'all paths lead to God' as I had heard some say? Others say that as long as you are a good person it doesn't matter what you believe - is that true?

im sorry sister,but YOU WERE NEVER A CHRISTIAN TO START WITH"YOU WERE A "XTIAN" OR A RIGHTEOUS CHRISTIAN!
my bible tells me that your perceived righteousness is like a filthy rag before the lord also the bible continues that except you are born again,you will not enter the kingdom of GOD which you clearly were not,so how can you claim to be a christian
Deen4me:

After some soul searching I decided that I did believe that there was an ultimate truth and in an attempt to find that truth I began a comparison study of various churches. I decided that I believed in the Bible and would join the church that best followed the Bible. After a lengthy study, I decided to stay with the Church of Christ, satisfied that its doctrines were biblically sound (unaware at this stage that there could be various interpretations of the Bible).
same as there are various interpretations of the QURAN,in addittion there are several hadiths several sects e.t.c
Deen4me:

I spent a year at Michigan Christian College, a small college affiliated with the Churches of Christ, but was not challenged academically and so transferred to Western Michigan University. Having applied late for student housing, I was placed in the international dorm. Although my roommate was American, I felt surrounded by strange people from strange places. It was in fact my first real experience with cultural diversity and it scared me (having been raised in a white, middle class, Christian community). I wanted to change dorms but there wasn't anything available. I did really like my roommate and decided to stick out the semester.

My roommate became very involved in the dorm activities and got to know most everyone in the dorm. I however performed with the marching band and spent most of my time with band people. Marching season soon ended and finding myself with time on my hands, I joined my roommate on her adventures around the dorm. It turned out to be a wonderful, fascinating experience! There were a large number of Arab men living in the dorm. They were charming, handsome, and a lot of fun to be around. My roommate started dating one of them and we ended up spending most of our time with the Arabs. I guess I knew they were Muslims (although very few of them were practicing). We never really discussed religion, we were just having fun.
this part of the narrative have clearly shown that the physical carnal attractions actually informed tyour love for islam,a white girl from a middle class background,experiencing an exotic foreign culture,
Deen4me:

The year passed and I had started seeing one of the Arabs. Again, we were just enjoying each other's company and never discussed our religious differences. Neither of us were practicing at this time so it never really became an issue for us. I did, deep down, feel guilty for not attending church, but I pushed it in the back of my mind. I was having too much fun.
this is another proof that you were never a christian to start with but a righteous "xtian" if you though having fun was a substitute for serving your GOD,then u werent feeling guilty but just added this for full effect of "committed christian"even the moslems will agree with me on that uplawal and abuzola?lol
Deen4me:

Another year passed and I was home for summer vacation when my roommate called me with some very distressing news: she'd become a Muslim!! I was horrified. She didn't tell me why she converted, just that she had spent a lot of time talking with her boyfriend's brother and it all made sense to her. After we hung up, I immediately wrote her a long letter explaining that she was ruining her life and to just give Christianity one more chance. That same summer my boyfriend transferred to Azusa Pacific University in California. We decided to get married and move to California together. Again, since neither one were practicing, religion was not discussed.

Secretly I started reading books on Islam. However I read books that were written by non-Muslims. One of the books I read was Islam Revealed by Anis Sorosh. I felt guilty about my friend's conversion. I felt that if I had been a better Christian, she would have turned to the church rather than Islam. Islam was a man-made religion, I believed, and filled with contradictions. After reading Sorosh's book, I thought I could convert my friend and my husband to Christianity.

At APU, my husband was required to take a few religion courses. One day he came home from class and said: "The more I learn about Christianity, the stronger my belief in Islam becomes." At about this same time he started showing signs of wanting to practice his religion again. Our problems began. We started talking about religion and arguing about our different beliefs. He told me I should learn about Islam and I told him I already knew everything I needed to know. I got out Sorosh's book and told him I could never believe in Islam. My husband is not a scholar by any stretch of the imagination, yet he had an answer for everything I showed him in Sorosh's book. I was impressed by his knowledge. He told me that if I really wanted to learn about Islam it must be through Islamic sources. He bought a few books for me from an Islamic bookstore and I started taking classes at a local mosque. What a difference the Islam I learned about from Muslim sources from the Islam I learned about from non-Muslims!
well i guess i will really love to meet your husband because i have a whole boatload of questions and contradictions on islam no one has been able to answer satisfactorily for me on nairaland,just ask me and i ll let 'em loose lol
Deen4me:

It was so difficult though when I actually decided to convert. My pride stood in the way for awhile. How could I admit to my husband and my friend that they were right all along? I felt humiliated, embarrassed. Soon though, I could deny the truth no longer, swallowed my pride, and alhamdulilah, embraced Islam - the best decision I ever made.
the pride against you converting to islam is more of a white american or whereever girl converting to islam from the muslims mid east rather than a christian converting,i am really tired of every single person especially morally bankrupt at best righteous people ascribitng to themselves the tag of a christian,even uplawal,who was simple a sunday sunday panadol calling herself a christian
Deen4me:

A few things I want to say to the non-Muslim reader:

[b]1. When I originally began my search for the truth all those years ago, I made a few wrong assumptions. First, I assumed that the truth is with Christianity only.
well,i am still 100% sure it is
Deen4me:

It never occurred to me at that time to look outside Christianity. Second, I assumed that the Bible was the true Word of God. These were bad assumptions because they prohibited me from looking at things objectively. When I began my earnest study of Islam, I had to start at the very beginning, with no preconceived ideas. I was not a Christian looking at Islam; I looked at both Islam and Christianity (and many other religions) from the point of view of an outsider. My advice to you is to be a critical thinker and a critical reader.
i have done that especially from an academic perspective and come to the same conclusion that islam isnt the way.
i dont have a big problem with islam being a man made religion,the problem i have with islam is that it is cock full of contradictions,devoid of love and full of intolerance hatred e.t.c
Deen4me:

2. Another mistake that many people make when talking about Islam is that they pick out a certain teaching and judge the whole of Islam on that one point.
there are more than enough points in islam,the quran and hadiths to point to that religion as full of hatred,contradictions
For example, many people say that Islam is prejudiced towards women because Islamic laws of inheritance award the male twice as much as the female. What they fail to learn, however, is that males have financial responsibilities in Islam that females do not have. It is like putting a puzzle together: until you have all the pieces in the right places, you cannot make a statement about the picture, you cannot look at one little piece of the puzzle and judge the whole picture.
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that isnt the only verse,unless you were suffering from vonvenient amnesia
how about the verse where mohammad was justified to lay his hand on any girl?that is objectifying women
how about a man in his fifties sleeping with a 9 years old?what part of the puzzle is that
how about a quran which relegates the women perpetually to the back,to eat the lef5t overs
how about the quran which calls for beating a disaobedient wife with the cane
there are several so ill love for you to show me that complete picture im not seeing
Deen4me:

3. Many people said that the only reason I converted was because of my husband. It is true that I studied Islam because he asked me to -
now we r getting to the crux of the matter,why have i been wasting my time since then??lol
[quote author=Deen4me link=topic=401075.msg5546463#msg5546463 date=1266595603]
but I accepted Islam because it is the truth. My husband and I are currently separated and plan to divorce in June, insha' Allah. My faith in Islam has never been stronger than it is now. I look forward to finding a practicing Muslim husband, insha' Allah, and growing in my faith and practice. Being a good Muslim is my number one priority.
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May Allah lead all of us closer to the truth.

Source http://new-muslims-world..com/2009/10/i-grew-up-in-church.html
i agree your faith is really strong in spite of the seperation,but have you heard of a word "indoctrination" and brain washing?it gets to a stage where you believe your own mother is a witch out to get you,we have seen an example of this in akwa ibom grin
chakula:

Allah is gretest and for Him everything is possible
jesus is lord grin
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 10:07pm On Feb 22, 2010
to godslave,every reverts is not and never a christian, i pity u,dey dere dey smegbe
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by GODSON2009(m): 6:08pm On Feb 23, 2010
uplawal:

to godslave,every reverts is not and never a christian, i pity u,dey dere dey smegbe
no not every convert because i dont know every single one of them,but pls i challenge anyone to show me a born again and broken christian who converted to islam.
when you were a christian,were you ever properly born agaiun and broken?
same as the writer of this article who has confessed to being a sunday sunday righteous christian
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 9:39pm On Feb 23, 2010
what is ur term of born again mr godslave?
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by luvola(m): 9:02am On Feb 24, 2010
who are d enemy of islam ? xtians ? @ uplawal
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 11:51am On Feb 24, 2010
christians,jews and other idol worshippers
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by chakula: 12:42pm On Feb 24, 2010
That's right.
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 12:54pm On Feb 24, 2010
@chakular,u get me brov,Asalamu Alekum
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by chakula: 1:27pm On Feb 24, 2010
uplawal, wa alekum salam.
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by GODSON2009(m): 4:58pm On Feb 24, 2010
uplawal:

what is your term of born again mr godslave?
being born again means you will forsake "every single vice" genuinely with a conviction to serve GOD come rain or shine,few questions when you were a christian,what would your reaction be

1.if i walked up to ypu and gave you a hot slap,would you retaliate or abuse me or simply walk away?
2.if you had to include a little lie in your home office application or employment application e.t.c will you do so or refuse to irrespective of whatever the conscequences might be?
3.when you were a christian,you never drank alcohol at all,intentionally lied,had any boyfriend attended not only sunday services but the mid week services,will you under any circumstances wear short or tight skirts,sleeveless tops or tops that ll show your cleavage curves e.t.c.
4.no negative word or phrase escaped your mouth like swearing,or sexually suggestive e.t.c phrases either in jest or seriously
5.loved your friends and family but loved your enemies even more and people who hate you, like the bible says what is the point of loving those who love you,the real test of a christian is loving those who hate you unconditionally

now look at those five points and then determine if you fulfilled them when you were a christian then you r born again and then ask yourself as a muslim if you fullfill these five points smiley
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by karo93: 6:48pm On Feb 24, 2010
CHRISTIANITY is the belief that jesus is the son of God sent to die for our sins and take the place of cattle and rams in sacrifice to wash away our sins so that we could be acceptable to God.It is also a christ like way of life[following the ways of jesus].
if you cant find any contradiction or wrong in what i stated above then you should shed more light on why there is no truth in christianity.
and looking at my second sentence on christianity, it is clear that you were never a christian but a CHURCH GOER and i ll tell you what-demons go to church too.

About the contradictions so you mean all these years you realy never knew that the bible was written by humansthe bible is is book of accounts,stories and personal ideas and opinions written by MEN.

ALSO can you tell me what you find wrong in the christian doctrine for which you now seek in islam?
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 10:54pm On Feb 24, 2010
@godslave,you are a very big fool for telling me not to slap back,or you want the person to break my jaw then will be left with no teeth at all, i can only not slap back if only the person is much older,but i would only allow the slap once but if he tries to feel like slapping again, i will not only slap her but beat her mercilessly and she would wish she had not tested her hand on me
2,to be honest with you if is only by that i can be okay in uk as i do not carry paper from naija and in as much as am not born here nd wants to stay in uk i would lie if the need arise and not look like a dummy infront of immigration or in my papers,any reasonable person would do that,to let u know as well uncountable pastors did that you know,so dnt even go there.

3,when i was a born again xtian i never drank alcohol,even though the occultic religion permits it(or do u wanna deny that)?i dnt like it and also i hate it cos i feel a good lady should not near alcohol.

4,i hate to lie, i find it disgusting really,evenpeople knows me for that.

5,i dnt have boyfriend, i was single,no  fornication with any guy even till now cos am not ,married and i find it to be realy bad before God
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 11:14pm On Feb 24, 2010
@godslave,i attend not only sunday service,infact i was a prayer warrior (personally) though not in the prayer (warrior group)in church,but i attend midweek services tuesdays and wednesday,vigils every friday(as in heavy ones/prophetic ones, even though is wrong way of worshipping GodAlmighty)

6,i dnt wear revealing clothes,but its still can not and never be compared to our hijab clothing,hope u know that?

7,i dnt hate people but am sure u cant be silent when your pastors are casting and binding?when pray by saying holyghostfire burn,die,household enemies die,meet your destruction?cos me i dey like to bind even till now sef but in the name of Allah,and not jesus,thats during supplication though.

8, i dnt even use swear words,cos i dnt grow up by it from my parent,"oloshi to kere ju", i dnt say it, i even caution people that says it,

9, Mr godslave from every indication i think i fulfiled a born again critaria,and am more fulfilled in so many vast ways than even when i was a xtian sef,ISLAM brushes someone up in every aspect of life, and i am bestest in person with God and those around me inshaAllah now,


ALLAH'S HUMBLE SLAVE(NIHMOTALLAHI)
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by GODSON2009(m): 6:58pm On Feb 25, 2010
uplawal:

@godslave,you are a very big fool for telling me not to slap back,or you want the person to break my jaw then will be left with no teeth at all, i can only not slap back if only the person is much older,but i would only allow the slap once but if he tries to feel like slapping again, i will not only slap her but beat her mercilessly and she would wish she had not tested her hand on me
with the bolded comment,does it mean that you have now grown worse from the time you were a christian?lol because a born again christian is not permitted under any circumstance to swear also if you will retaliate then you were never a born again christian to start with a sister in my church while doing door to door evangelism with others in manchester,a white lady while trying to shut the door in their face caught her finger in the door and she was bleeding,all through the ordeal as the woman was saying sorry she just told her not to worry and that she should come to church,the white lady is born again and broken and in her testimony she said the single reason for accepting was because if someone can slam a door on your fingers and you didnt retaliate she ll like to know more about that GOD, BESIDES A CHRISTIAN LOVE IS UNCONDITTIONAL AS THE BIBLE TELLS US, you have just shown the difference between islam and christianity my dearest sister uplawal grin
uplawal:

2,to be honest with you if is only by that i can be okay in uk as i do not carry paper from naija and in as much as am not born here nd wants to stay in uk i would lie if the need arise and not look like a dummy infront of immigration or in my papers,any reasonable person would do that,to let u know as well uncountable pastors did that you know,so dnt even go there.
there you go,it means you are not a true broken born again christian,even as a muslim if you truelly believe that your GOD is real and alive,he will vindicate you no matter how grave the situation i have seen a real life example of a man in east london parish of reedemed you can confirm if you want,he was prayed for and he went to east croydon with a letter and told them that he lied and came into the country illegaly from nigeria and he has no single legal papers at the end of the day they gave him an indefinite stay,so again you were never truelly born again
uplawal:

3,when i was a born again xtian i never drank alcohol,even though the occultic religion permits it(or do u wanna deny that)?i dnt like it and also i hate it cos i feel a good lady should not near alcohol.
if you can show me where the bible tells you to drink alcohol,if you were making reference to bro paul's advice to bro timothy then it shows you never understood the bible the verse said to use it because of his weak stomach or disposition,go and research into the olden days britain where you are when someone faints or feeling poorly they use wine or whisky e.t.c there was no alternative,now there is an alternative including smelling salts e.t.c
uplawal:

4,i hate to lie, i find it disgusting really,evenpeople knows me for that.
well you just contradicted yourself here sister uplawal loooool you just said you would lie on your application remember the bible said if you even think about having sex with a woman you have already committed adultery,so by the act of accepting to do it you have done it already second last year when i asked you on this forum you said you had a boyfriend who was a good muslim bla bla, how come you r now saying you didnt have a boyfriend grin
uplawal:

5,i dnt have boyfriend, i was single,no fornication with any guy even till now cos am not ,married and i find it to be realy bad before God
well who was the boyfriend you were saying you had last year then?you were either lieing if you have always been single or committing fornication which is it?? grin
uplawal:

@godslave,i attend not only sunday service,infact i was a prayer warrior (personally) though not in the prayer (warrior group)in church,but i attend midweek services tuesdays and wednesday,vigils every friday(as in heavy ones/prophetic ones, even though is wrong way of worshipping GodAlmighty)
the bible says not everyone who calls my name or does miracles in my name will enter into the kingdom of GOD even though you have failed on this note as well although i agree you were fairly consistent IF you were telling the truth
uplawal:

6,i dnt wear revealing clothes,but its still can not and never be compared to our hijab clothing,hope u know that?
i dont know that because i have seen several hija wearing ladies/girls who committ more fornication than prostitutes,i live not far from the university community and i see enough and know enough of them asians blacks e.t.c clothing as a born again christian is just a little part of it compared to the importance you give the hijab as a religious symbol
uplawal:

7,i dnt hate people but am sure u cant be silent when your pastors are casting and binding?when pray by saying holyghostfire burn,die,household enemies die,meet your destruction?cos me i dey like to bind even till now sef but in the name of Allah,and not jesus,thats during supplication though.
i am not silent but i dont tell my own enemies to die or burn because first you cannot kill them you can only cse them away,even jesus did not tell the demons to die he sent them out as for hatred you have exhibited serious hatred on this forum,so it follows that you became hate filled when you turned muslim yes or no? grin
uplawal:

8, i dnt even use swear words,cos i dnt grow up by it from my parent,"oloshi to kere ju", i dnt say it, i even caution people that says it,
i dont believe you at all,do you want me to show you the number of comments where you have abused or cursed people on this forum??now show me where i as a born again christian has ever cursed anyone??im waiting, grin
uplawal:

9, Mr godslave from every indication i think i fulfiled a born again critaria,and am more fulfilled in so many vast ways than even when i was a xtian sef,ISLAM brushes someone up in every aspect of life, and i am bestest in person with God and those around me inshaAllah now,
my dear sister uplawal you were a fiarly good christian but you were never a born again,and i have proven that by the comments showing that you never was even though you though you were what i have seen you exhibit is a high level of hatered,you have been cursing and swearing at people on here and have even showed support fro suicide bombing so if this is the new you,then you have to agree with me that you have grown worse than when you were a muslim,if your own allah can allow you to curse and abuse others for his sake then you need to check your religion again, be saved before its too late my dear sister grin
uplawal:

ALLAH'S HUMBLE SLAVE(NIHMOTALLAHI)
well,maybe you are a slave to your allah i am a son to my own father,jesus christ even reffered to me as his brother and one of the sons of BABA GOD
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 9:30pm On Feb 25, 2010
@godslave,i repeat it again ,if u act or sound foolish i will refer you to be a fool ten thousnd times,cos you spoke foolishly,u dnt have the right to judge the kind of position i was in christianity,and besides u urself conbined with your hypocritites pastors are not as good as i am
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 9:37pm On Feb 25, 2010
by ur first respone to the lady i can see that you are daft,call me what evr you wanna call me,that does not and cannot sstop me from retaliating if i want and if i choose to forgive the person its my business and if i chose to retaliate i cant be judged by that,if you dnt know,get it right,that does not make one not broken or born again,me i cant be a fool like you and the rest of you all becos i wanna prove holy.
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 9:57pm On Feb 25, 2010
@godson,i honestly know for sure that youre not yourself, u cant judge me with the nonsense u wrote upthere,imagine you,a very useless brainless guy that haul insults on my religion ISLAM and ure here telling me i curse,if u dnt start cursing and insulting my God, i wont reply u okay,i cant mope at you while u insult my God and religin okay


you cnt even stand me when i was a christian talkmore of now(Astagafurullah if am proud) man,you dirty hypocrite,claiming to be born again,infact youre an idiot,am i  one of the christian harlots that uses hijab to commit actrocities that youre refering me to them,foolish man ,i just stated my code of dressing and how our own supercedes yours,youre hearing blabbing as usual,dnt go and tell your xtain sisters to be dressing the way reveren sisters dresses so that they will stop polluting the land with incest,fornication,adultery and millions of badstard kids around.
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by luvola(m): 11:30pm On Feb 25, 2010
senseless post
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 9:24am On Feb 26, 2010
@luvola,av you ever made as sensible post on nairaland,you are very clueless for that
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 9:28am On Feb 26, 2010
@godslave,if you look more close when i wrote i had a boyfriend,i refered to my fiance and never had intimacy with him unlike you and your hypocrites do, my aim of having one was intention to marry him and not fornicate,so get that into your blocked big head
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Remii(m): 10:01am On Feb 26, 2010
@uplawal, my sister, do your best not to trade insults or hash words with non Muslims, as an Ibadul rahaman (those who do everything for Allah's sake alone) one of the qualities of as written in Quran Surah Furqan 25/63-76) is When the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness.

State your facts, they do not have to take it, but when it is the fact your mind would be clear. You may even choose to ignore those with who just make provocative and baseless comments. As much as possible avoid insulting words even when replying to a comment with one. Afterall why engaging in cyber war of words with a faceless person you may never meet. Spend your adrenalin in a better way. May Allah help you as you make effort to increase your faith.
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 10:22am On Feb 26, 2010
@remii,Amin thank you,but all the same we are human, and i could not have start it first anyway,but av heard you,its just difficult for me to relax when my God and religion is being insulted
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by luvola(m): 1:33pm On Feb 26, 2010
who is yur god ? @ downlawal
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 7:33pm On Feb 26, 2010
Allah(swt),not really intended for you but other readers @luvola
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by luvola(m): 11:23pm On Feb 26, 2010
but allah is an idol in kabba nah @ downlawal
Re: I Grew Up In The Church by Nobody: 1:55am On Feb 27, 2010
@luvola,if u say so,but remember u will be judged by this you've said,if you wanna be honest with yourself and save yourself from hellfire,why not read the Quran and you will know if is the real God or not

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