ogajim:

Is this the same Viaro Manning an M1A2?

My 2 cents is: Jesus Christ is a friend of those who accept him BUT we are NOT Jesus Christ (no duplicate)

we are not Jesus Christ,
Jesus Christ is a person while Christ is Jesus and the church together,
Jesus is the head of the church while we are His members
We are Christs because we have one life with Him. Paul was contrasting between the christian and umbelievers, he called the Christian Christ,

And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2 Cor 6:15 (KJV)

jOKERS. . . Did he not say that he is the head and you are the body?

So should a true christian not in essence be one with christ?

And if you are one with christ and christ is one with God, then you are one with God!

So all Christians are God!

Deluded brain-washed slaves of the white man

Deep Sight:

Deluded brain-washed slaves of the white man

Lol, and this is the same dude who would be waving the victim's card when viaro smarts him up, no?

mabell:

we are not Jesus Christ,
Jesus Christ is a person while Christ is Jesus and the church together,
Jesus is the head of the church while we are His members
We are Christs because we have one life with Him. Paul was contrasting between the christian and umbelievers, he called the Christian Christ,

And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2 Cor 6:15 (KJV)

@mabell, Paul did not call the Christian 'Christ'. If you carefully follow his teaching with any measure of consistency, you will find that he was always clear by Who he referred to as 'Christ' ~

(a) there were times when he wrote "Christ Jesus" or "Jesus Christ our Lord" (1 Cor. 1:2, KJV)

(b) other times, he simply wrote "Christ" (1 Cor. 1:6, 13, 17, etc)

(c) when he spoke about "Christ", it is clear that was in reference to the Person of Jesus Himself and not in reference to anyone else; for example - "But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God" (1 Cor. 1:23 & 24).

(d) why is it in 2 Cor. 6:15 that WOF proponents twist "Christ" as a name for Christians? Does that not indicate that something is seriously wrong there and it was an attempt to grasp at thin air to justify their WOF doctrines of making themselves into "Christ"?

(e) the testimony of the apostles could be found in 1 John 2:22 - "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son". There is no other Person that is called "Christ" except Jesus the Son of God.

(f) where Paul wanted us to know what he was inspired to call Christians, he left no ambiguities and was clear in 1 Cor. 12:27 - "Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular". There is a vast difference between being called "the Body of Christ" and "Christ" - that Christians are not called "Christ" is emphatically clear by the fact he stated we are "members in particular".

(g) as Christians, we are called to be 'ambassadors' of Christ (2 Cor. 5:20), but the ambassador is not the very same as the one who sends him - which is why Scripture never refers to any Christian as "Christ".

(h) being spiritual in the Christian faith does not warrant us to go out of our way to arrogate claims upon ourselves that God never in any place called upon us. If you consider the testimony of those who boasted themselves of being "deity" or "Christ" because of some verses in Scripture that they twisted, you often find that Psalm 82:7 is fulfilled in their lives.

@Deepsight
I see you are playing the devil's advocate again on this thread.

@Viaro

Deep Sight:

jOKERS. . . Did he not say that he is the head and you are the body?
So should a true christian not in essence be one with christ?
And if you are one with christ and christ is one with God, then you are one with God!
So all Christians are God!

paul was contrasting the christians and the unbeliver.
we are in union with christ, we are one with him, the same way christ is in God
i'm surprisd DeepSight(whom i don't know if he is born again or not) understands this more than Viaro
christ made us christians so we are one with the father.
maybe you should look closely at the sripture again

for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
Luke 16:8 (KJV)

@mabell:

i'm surprisd DeepSight(whom i don't know if he is born again or not) understands this more than Viaro

Deep sight is not a Christian. I thought you should have realized that?