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Diffrence Between Terrorists( IPOB) And Criminal Elements (Herdsmen) by olisasegun(m): 7:22am On Sep 18, 2017
Immediately #IPOB was declared a terrorist group, some people started asking how come #Herdsmen are not declared a terrorist organisation.

Let me tell you the difference using different illustrations...

Armed robbery has been going on in Nigeria for over 50 years, how come armed robbers are not categorized as terrorists? Even though they carry weapons? The simple reason is because armed robbers are not a unified group.

■ They do not have a command hierarchy
■ They do not have political aims
■ Same applies to kidnappers...They are also criminal elements of our society but you cannot brand them as terrorists

The characteristics of a terrorist group are:

1. They have a group
2. They have a supreme leader
3. They have a leadership hierarchy
4. They have a base
5. They have a command centre
6. They have a recognized logo
7. They terrorize civilians
8. They have a militant wing
9. They have a political aim

The good thing is that Armed robbers, criminal herdsmen and kiddnerpers are not rewarded for their activities...The full wrath of the law is visited on them when they are caught.
We have punitive laws for those categories of criminal elements...They are simply criminal elements in the society.

Same applies to the criminal herdsmen, they are a minority criminal elements in our society that carry out criminal acts such as armed robbery, kidnapping, killing and arson.

Terrorism is when you form a group, arm the group and unleash terror on innocent citizens using the name of group, with a command hierarchy in the pursuit of political aims, that is standard definition of #terrorism.

A #terrorist group are people who willingly join a group and actively participate in terror activities like the ETA, Al-Queda, ISIS and now #IPOB under one umbrella with supreme leaders, a political and militant wing with the aim of using violence and intimidation for pursuit of political aims.

But how do you brand armed robbers a terrorist group? Is it by the number of tribes involved in armed robbery?

The fact that the total armed robbers in the country comprise of 90% of a single tribe doesn't mean the whole tribe are armed robbers.
The fact that 90% of the people engaged in drug trafficking are members of a particular tribe doesn't mean the whole tribe are drug pushers.
The fact that majority of kidnappers are 90% members of a particular tribe doesn't mean the innocent members of the tribe should be tagged kiddnapers.
Same way you can't brand all herdsmen terrorists because most of them are law abiding citizens who go about their daily activities peacefully.
#Herdsmen are cattle rearers, and among them we have criminal elements.

So it will be unfair to tag the whole herdsmen terrorists because of the activities of a minority.

I so submit

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Re: Diffrence Between Terrorists( IPOB) And Criminal Elements (Herdsmen) by PointZerom: 7:28am On Sep 18, 2017
If this is true then APC and PDP are terrorist groups. They have caused more pain and terrorise her citizens more than even BOKO Haram. Even those in IDP camp were bombed by them.

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Re: Diffrence Between Terrorists( IPOB) And Criminal Elements (Herdsmen) by olisasegun(m): 8:23am On Sep 18, 2017
PointZerom:
If this is true then APC and PDP are terrorist groups. They have caused more pain and terrorise her citizens more than even BOKO Haram. Even those in IDP camp were bombed by them.

APC OR PDP never called for burning or destruction Nigeria. They were never known for daily feedings of their members with hate speeches.
Re: Diffrence Between Terrorists( IPOB) And Criminal Elements (Herdsmen) by otil1: 8:40am On Sep 18, 2017
Op, I guess you've not heard of Miyetti Allah, the umbrella organisation of fulani cattle breeders.

In fact before any attack, they told the world that the meet and share kola to all the families to contribute killers

Provide more points pls. Above not holding water.

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Re: Diffrence Between Terrorists( IPOB) And Criminal Elements (Herdsmen) by TheKingIsHere: 8:44am On Sep 18, 2017
olisasegun:
Immediately #IPOB was declared a terrorist group, some people started asking how come #Herdsmen are not declared a terrorist organisation.

Let me tell you the difference using different illustrations...

Armed robbery has been going on in Nigeria for over 50 years, how come armed robbers are not categorized as terrorists? Even though they carry weapons? The simple reason is because armed robbers are not a unified group.

■ They do not have a command hierarchy
■ They do not have political aims
■ Same applies to kidnappers...They are also criminal elements of our society but you cannot brand them as terrorists

The characteristics of a terrorist group are:

1. They have a group
2. They have a supreme leader
3. They have a leadership hierarchy
4. They have a base
5. They have a command centre
6. They have a recognized logo
7. They terrorize civilians
8. They have a militant wing
9. They have a political aim

The good thing is that Armed robbers, criminal herdsmen and kiddnerpers are not rewarded for their activities...The full wrath of the law is visited on them when they are caught.
We have punitive laws for those categories of criminal elements...They are simply criminal elements in the society.

Same applies to the criminal herdsmen, they are a minority criminal elements in our society that carry out criminal acts such as armed robbery, kidnapping, killing and arson.

Terrorism is when you form a group, arm the group and unleash terror on innocent citizens using the name of group, with a command hierarchy in the pursuit of political aims, that is standard definition of #terrorism.

A #terrorist group are people who willingly join a group and actively participate in terror activities like the ETA, Al-Queda, ISIS and now #IPOB under one umbrella with supreme leaders, a political and militant wing with the aim of using violence and intimidation for pursuit of political aims.

But how do you brand armed robbers a terrorist group? Is it by the number of tribes involved in armed robbery?

The fact that the total armed robbers in the country comprise of 90% of a single tribe doesn't mean the whole tribe are armed robbers.
The fact that 90% of the people engaged in drug trafficking are members of a particular tribe doesn't mean the whole tribe are drug pushers.
The fact that majority of kidnappers are 90% members of a particular tribe doesn't mean the innocent members of the tribe should be tagged kiddnapers.
Same way you can't brand all herdsmen terrorists because most of them are law abiding citizens who go about their daily activities peacefully.
#Herdsmen are cattle rearers, and among them we have criminal elements.

So it will be unfair to tag the whole herdsmen terrorists because of the activities of a minority.

I so submit

So are you saying you know more than the international community that tagged Fulani herdsmen as the 4th most deadly terrorist group in the world?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/global-terrorism-index-nigerian-fulani-militants-named-as-fourth-deadliest-terror-group-in-world-a6739851.html

You just want to show your poor level of reasoning and shallow mentality online.

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Re: Diffrence Between Terrorists( IPOB) And Criminal Elements (Herdsmen) by PointZerom: 9:48am On Sep 18, 2017
olisasegun:


APC OR PDP never called for burning or destruction Nigeria. They were never known for daily feedings of their members with hate speeches.


Buhari's 5% speech what will you call it?.

The truth remains that if you holistically review these political parties styles of leadership, you will agree with me that they hv set Nigeria on fire for long.

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Re: Diffrence Between Terrorists( IPOB) And Criminal Elements (Herdsmen) by Nobody: 9:51am On Sep 18, 2017
olisasegun:
Immediately #IPOB was declared a terrorist group, some people started asking how come #Herdsmen are not declared a terrorist organisation.

Let me tell you the difference using different illustrations...

Armed robbery has been going on in Nigeria for over 50 years, how come armed robbers are not categorized as terrorists? Even though they carry weapons? The simple reason is because armed robbers are not a unified group.

■ They do not have a command hierarchy
■ They do not have political aims
■ Same applies to kidnappers...They are also criminal elements of our society but you cannot brand them as terrorists

The characteristics of a terrorist group are:

1. They have a group
2. They have a supreme leader
3. They have a leadership hierarchy
4. They have a base
5. They have a command centre
6. They have a recognized logo
7. They terrorize civilians
8. They have a militant wing
9. They have a political aim

The good thing is that Armed robbers, criminal herdsmen and kiddnerpers are not rewarded for their activities...The full wrath of the law is visited on them when they are caught.
We have punitive laws for those categories of criminal elements...They are simply criminal elements in the society.

Same applies to the criminal herdsmen, they are a minority criminal elements in our society that carry out criminal acts such as armed robbery, kidnapping, killing and arson.

Terrorism is when you form a group, arm the group and unleash terror on innocent citizens using the name of group, with a command hierarchy in the pursuit of political aims, that is standard definition of #terrorism.

A #terrorist group are people who willingly join a group and actively participate in terror activities like the ETA, Al-Queda, ISIS and now #IPOB under one umbrella with supreme leaders, a political and militant wing with the aim of using violence and intimidation for pursuit of political aims.

But how do you brand armed robbers a terrorist group? Is it by the number of tribes involved in armed robbery?

The fact that the total armed robbers in the country comprise of 90% of a single tribe doesn't mean the whole tribe are armed robbers.
The fact that 90% of the people engaged in drug trafficking are members of a particular tribe doesn't mean the whole tribe are drug pushers.
The fact that majority of kidnappers are 90% members of a particular tribe doesn't mean the innocent members of the tribe should be tagged kiddnapers.
Same way you can't brand all herdsmen terrorists because most of them are law abiding citizens who go about their daily activities peacefully.
#Herdsmen are cattle rearers, and among them we have criminal elements.

So it will be unfair to tag the whole herdsmen terrorists because of the activities of a minority.

I so submit
Horrible logic. Horrible conclusion.
Poor education system
Re: Diffrence Between Terrorists( IPOB) And Criminal Elements (Herdsmen) by Nobody: 10:20am On Sep 18, 2017
Op which school you go ?
Re: Diffrence Between Terrorists( IPOB) And Criminal Elements (Herdsmen) by Nobody: 10:39am On Sep 18, 2017
That the definition of STUPIDITY lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

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Re: Diffrence Between Terrorists( IPOB) And Criminal Elements (Herdsmen) by afongha: 10:43am On Sep 18, 2017
You valid and fair points.

But I'm going to play the evil advocate here. "Operation python dance II" is a misnomer. It is a crass, insensitive, impetuous and autocratic-style response to the issue in the S/E.

Mind you, this is the same government that could not so much as utter a word of condemnation against the rampaging herdsmen, let alone declare them terrorists.

How many people have IPOBian maimed, assaulted, raped or killed? compare to that of the herdsman

The double standards is too glaring even for someone like me.

Just to be clear, I still maintain Nnamdi Kanu remains a loud-mouthed opportunistic imbeciile.

But the response by the government is grossly disproportionate as it shows the blatant unvarnished hatred of the C-in-C for the S/E. This should not be so.
Re: Diffrence Between Terrorists( IPOB) And Criminal Elements (Herdsmen) by idupaul: 10:49am On Sep 18, 2017
olisasegun:
Immediately #IPOB was declared a terrorist group, some people started asking how come #Herdsmen are not declared a terrorist organisation.

Let me tell you the difference using different illustrations...

Armed robbery has been going on in Nigeria for over 50 years, how come armed robbers are not categorized as terrorists? Even though they carry weapons? The simple reason is because armed robbers are not a unified group.

■ They do not have a command hierarchy
■ They do not have political aims
■ Same applies to kidnappers...They are also criminal elements of our society but you cannot brand them as terrorists

The characteristics of a terrorist group are:

1. They have a group
2. They have a supreme leader
3. They have a leadership hierarchy
4. They have a base
5. They have a command centre
6. They have a recognized logo
7. They terrorize civilians
8. They have a militant wing
9. They have a political aim

The good thing is that Armed robbers, criminal herdsmen and kiddnerpers are not rewarded for their activities...The full wrath of the law is visited on them when they are caught.
We have punitive laws for those categories of criminal elements...They are simply criminal elements in the society.

Same applies to the criminal herdsmen, they are a minority criminal elements in our society that carry out criminal acts such as armed robbery, kidnapping, killing and arson.

Terrorism is when you form a group, arm the group and unleash terror on innocent citizens using the name of group, with a command hierarchy in the pursuit of political aims, that is standard definition of #terrorism.

A #terrorist group are people who willingly join a group and actively participate in terror activities like the ETA, Al-Queda, ISIS and now #IPOB under one umbrella with supreme leaders, a political and militant wing with the aim of using violence and intimidation for pursuit of political aims.

But how do you brand armed robbers a terrorist group? Is it by the number of tribes involved in armed robbery?

The fact that the total armed robbers in the country comprise of 90% of a single tribe doesn't mean the whole tribe are armed robbers.
The fact that 90% of the people engaged in drug trafficking are members of a particular tribe doesn't mean the whole tribe are drug pushers.
The fact that majority of kidnappers are 90% members of a particular tribe doesn't mean the innocent members of the tribe should be tagged kiddnapers.
Same way you can't brand all herdsmen terrorists because most of them are law abiding citizens who go about their daily activities peacefully.
#Herdsmen are cattle rearers, and among them we have criminal elements.

So it will be unfair to tag the whole herdsmen terrorists because of the activities of a minority.

I so submit

I think the international community that has since tagged Fulani herdsmen the 4th most dangerous terrorist group in the world are in a better position to know the correct definition of what terrorism means not you

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