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If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by DoctorAlien(m): 1:51pm On Oct 01, 2017
Source: https://answersingenesis.org/human-evolution/if-we-resemble-apes-does-that-mean-we-evolved-from-apes/

Anyone who has ever watched the monkeys and apes at a zoo couldn’t help but notice their resemblance to humans. By comparison, the bears in the zoo are not nearly as similar to humans as are the apes. Still, bears are warm-blooded mammals and thus are more similar to humans than are cold-blooded reptiles like the alligators. Alligators, however, do have legs and true lungs and thus are more similar to humans than are the fish. But even fish have bony vertebrae and thus are more similar to human than are the insects. And even insects are made up of many specialized cells and thus are more similar to humans than are the bacteria. Finally, all living things, including bacteria, have basically the same type of molecules that appear to be essential for life itself and share a common genetic code mechanism for their reproduction.

Clearly there is an underlying common theme to all of life. Inquisitive people will naturally wonder why this is so. Until the time of Darwin, over 130 years ago, most scientists considered the underlying commonality of all living animals to be evidence of the handiwork of their common Creator. It seemed quite reasonable to these great pioneers who established the foundations of nearly every branch of science that God would use the same underlying principles to design and create the various kinds of animals. After all, even human designers, builders, and artists, tend to manifest their distinctive approach in everything they create and build.

There are several possible reasons why certain animals are more similar to one another than they are to others, permitting them to be arranged into groups. Animals that live in a similar environment and eat similar food would be expected to have structural and even chemical similarities. Animals that live and move on land, for example, have a certain class of similarities based on the restrictions imposed by the natural terrain of our earth. Animals that live and swim in water have certain similarities necessary for aquatic locomotion and feeding. Animals that fly in the air have still other similarities dictated by the severe demands of flight. In the same manner, man-made machines designed to serve a common type of purpose share common features, despite their many differences. Consider the various modes of transportation designed by man. Most vehicles that run on land, from roller skates to freight trains, share a class of similarities based on wheels. Vehicles that move on water, from a canoe to a battleship, share basic similarities based on flotation. Vehicles that fly in the air, from hang gliders to the space shuttle, have similarities that are essential to flight.

Today, evolutionists insist that the underlying similarity of all animals, including man, and our ability to arrange and classify them into groups, is compelling evidence for their progressive evolution from a common ancestor. They insist that there is simply no other thinkable explanation for their similarities. Evolutionists argue further that the degree of similarity between any two animals attests to their degree of evolutionary “relatedness,” and thus how recently they separated from a common ancestor. They are quite certain, for example, that the similarities between apes and humans prove they evolved from a common ape-like ancestor “only” 2 or 3 million years ago. By comparison, evolutionists say we are far more distantly “related” to our insect “relatives.” The Living World exhibit at the St. Louis Zoo at one time had a sign by a dish of fruit flies that confidently declared, “Humans and flies had a common ancestor 630 million years ago.” This hypothetical “common ancestor” is not identified because no one has the slightest evidence of what it looked like, or even if it existed at all!

This belief, that similarities between animals can only be understood in terms of an evolutionary relationship, is the most fundamental axiom of evolution—almost all arguments for evolution depend upon it. Evolutionists do not feel compelled to prove their claim that similarity necessarily means common evolutionary ancestry—they assume it. Indeed, evolutionists never question or investigate whether evolution is true or not; rather they ask which animal evolved into which, and their answer is generally based on similarity! No scientist would ever succeed in getting funding from major federal or private sources to investigate if evolution has really occurred or not. The evolutionist Richard Leaky approached the National Geographic Society to get funding to look for the ape ancestors of man, not to investigate if man evolved from apes. It is interesting to note that when the Society gave Leaky his funds, he was warned: “If you find nothing you are never to come begging at our door again.” With this motivation, Leaky soon found 40 specimens of the “human ancestor,” Australopithecus, whose very name, by the way, means “Southern APE”! Most evolutionists are dead certain that this very apelike ape evolved into man because of certain arguable similarities to man in its teeth and pelvic bones. Perhaps you heard the story of the evolutionist who dug up a fossilized fragment of an ape’s jaw and promptly declared it to be an ancestor of man—he was so excited about the find he said, “I wouldn’t have seen it if I hadn’t believed it.”

One of the problems with the similarity equals evolutionary ancestry axiom is that evolutionists ignore it whenever it doesn’t fit their evolutionary scenarios. There are many instances of remarkable similarities between animals that evolutionists consider to be only distantly related. The eye of the squid, for example, is strikingly similar to the human eye. Sometimes almost the whole body and even the behavior of animals are obviously similar, and still evolutionists argue they are not closely related! For example, many of the Australian marsupials have strikingly similar counterparts to certain North American placental mammals. There are both marsupial and placental mammal versions of mice, moles, rabbits, wolves, and badgers. There is even evidence that there once were both marsupial and placental saber-toothed tigers! Yet evolutionists consider marsupials and placental mammals to be only distantly related because their mechanism of reproduction is so different. Evolutionists believe that the primitive ancestors of marsupial and placental mammals split off from a hypothetical common ancestor about 120 million years ago, long before there were mice, moles, rabbits, wolves, and badgers, and have been evolving separately ever since. How then did both these separate lines manage to come up with such similar animals?

Incredibly, evolutionists explain away amazing similarities between animals they consider to be only distantly related by simply invoking “convergent evolution.” Convergent evolution is the unobserved and unexplained process whereby two very different animals independently evolve into two very similar animals by an incredible run of countless lucky mutational coincidences extending over tens of millions of years! It seems that some folks will believe almost anything, as long as it doesn’t appear in the Bible.

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by DoctorAlien(m): 1:01pm On Oct 02, 2017
No!
Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by adepeter2027(m): 1:50pm On Oct 02, 2017
@op

I didn't read only for me to scroll down and see you've already answered the question yourself.

Hope you're okay sha?

Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by Nobody: 1:54pm On Oct 02, 2017
*Sighs*...... sad
Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by DoctorAlien(m): 2:31pm On Oct 02, 2017
adepeter2027:
@op

I didn't read only for me to scroll down and see you've already answered the question yourself.

Hope you're okay sha?

Why don't you read it?
Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by adepeter2027(m): 2:31pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Why don't you read it?
You've already answered the question naw wink
Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by DoctorAlien(m): 2:33pm On Oct 02, 2017
adepeter2027:

You've already answered the question naw wink

Do you want me to edit that post where I said "No" so you can read it?

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by vaxx: 3:22pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Source: https://answersingenesis.org/human-evolution/if-we-resemble-apes-does-that-mean-we-evolved-from-apes/

Anyone who has ever watched the monkeys and apes at a zoo couldn’t help but notice their resemblance to humans. By comparison, the bears in the zoo are not nearly as similar to humans as are the apes. Still, bears are warm-blooded mammals and thus are more similar to humans than are cold-blooded reptiles like the alligators. Alligators, however, do have legs and true lungs and thus are more similar to humans than are the fish. But even fish have bony vertebrae and thus are more similar to human than are the insects. And even insects are made up of many specialized cells and thus are more similar to humans than are the bacteria. Finally, all living things, including bacteria, have basically the same type of molecules that appear to be essential for life itself and share a common genetic code mechanism for their reproduction.

Clearly there is an underlying common theme to all of life. Inquisitive people will naturally wonder why this is so. Until the time of Darwin, over 130 years ago, most scientists considered the underlying commonality of all living animals to be evidence of the handiwork of their common Creator. It seemed quite reasonable to these great pioneers who established the foundations of nearly every branch of science that God would use the same underlying principles to design and create the various kinds of animals. After all, even human designers, builders, and artists, tend to manifest their distinctive approach in everything they create and build.

There are several possible reasons why certain animals are more similar to one another than they are to others, permitting them to be arranged into groups. Animals that live in a similar environment and eat similar food would be expected to have structural and even chemical similarities. Animals that live and move on land, for example, have a certain class of similarities based on the restrictions imposed by the natural terrain of our earth. Animals that live and swim in water have certain similarities necessary for aquatic locomotion and feeding. Animals that fly in the air have still other similarities dictated by the severe demands of flight. In the same manner, man-made machines designed to serve a common type of purpose share common features, despite their many differences. Consider the various modes of transportation designed by man. Most vehicles that run on land, from roller skates to freight trains, share a class of similarities based on wheels. Vehicles that move on water, from a canoe to a battleship, share basic similarities based on flotation. Vehicles that fly in the air, from hang gliders to the space shuttle, have similarities that are essential to flight.

Today, evolutionists insist that the underlying similarity of all animals, including man, and our ability to arrange and classify them into groups, is compelling evidence for their progressive evolution from a common ancestor. They insist that there is simply no other thinkable explanation for their similarities. Evolutionists argue further that the degree of similarity between any two animals attests to their degree of evolutionary “relatedness,” and thus how recently they separated from a common ancestor. They are quite certain, for example, that the similarities between apes and humans prove they evolved from a common ape-like ancestor “only” 2 or 3 million years ago. By comparison, evolutionists say we are far more distantly “related” to our insect “relatives.” The Living World exhibit at the St. Louis Zoo at one time had a sign by a dish of fruit flies that confidently declared, “Humans and flies had a common ancestor 630 million years ago.” This hypothetical “common ancestor” is not identified because no one has the slightest evidence of what it looked like, or even if it existed at all!

This belief, that similarities between animals can only be understood in terms of an evolutionary relationship, is the most fundamental axiom of evolution—almost all arguments for evolution depend upon it. Evolutionists do not feel compelled to prove their claim that similarity necessarily means common evolutionary ancestry—they assume it. Indeed, evolutionists never question or investigate whether evolution is true or not; rather they ask which animal evolved into which, and their answer is generally based on similarity! No scientist would ever succeed in getting funding from major federal or private sources to investigate if evolution has really occurred or not. The evolutionist Richard Leaky approached the National Geographic Society to get funding to look for the ape ancestors of man, not to investigate if man evolved from apes. It is interesting to note that when the Society gave Leaky his funds, he was warned: “If you find nothing you are never to come begging at our door again.” With this motivation, Leaky soon found 40 specimens of the “human ancestor,” Australopithecus, whose very name, by the way, means “Southern APE”! Most evolutionists are dead certain that this very apelike ape evolved into man because of certain arguable similarities to man in its teeth and pelvic bones. Perhaps you heard the story of the evolutionist who dug up a fossilized fragment of an ape’s jaw and promptly declared it to be an ancestor of man—he was so excited about the find he said, “I wouldn’t have seen it if I hadn’t believed it.”

One of the problems with the similarity equals evolutionary ancestry axiom is that evolutionists ignore it whenever it doesn’t fit their evolutionary scenarios. There are many instances of remarkable similarities between animals that evolutionists consider to be only distantly related. The eye of the squid, for example, is strikingly similar to the human eye. Sometimes almost the whole body and even the behavior of animals are obviously similar, and still evolutionists argue they are not closely related! For example, many of the Australian marsupials have strikingly similar counterparts to certain North American placental mammals. There are both marsupial and placental mammal versions of mice, moles, rabbits, wolves, and badgers. There is even evidence that there once were both marsupial and placental saber-toothed tigers! Yet evolutionists consider marsupials and placental mammals to be only distantly related because their mechanism of reproduction is so different. Evolutionists believe that the primitive ancestors of marsupial and placental mammals split off from a hypothetical common ancestor about 120 million years ago, long before there were mice, moles, rabbits, wolves, and badgers, and have been evolving separately ever since. How then did both these separate lines manage to come up with such similar animals?

Incredibly, evolutionists explain away amazing similarities between animals they consider to be only distantly related by simply invoking “convergent evolution.” Convergent evolution is the unobserved and unexplained process whereby two very different animals independently evolve into two very similar animals by an incredible run of countless lucky mutational coincidences extending over tens of millions of years! It seems that some folks will believe almost anything, as long as it doesn’t appear in the Bible.
evolution theory don't claim human evolve from apes...it only state we share common ancestors with them...they are called proto primate..... Sincerly speaking we have more similarities with monkey....

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by Niflheim(m): 3:29pm On Oct 02, 2017
@op,

Answers in genesis is a not an Evolutionary Biology website!!!

@op,

Vaxx has corrected your error!!!

@op,

Guess who runs that website!!!
Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by Niflheim(m): 3:36pm On Oct 02, 2017
@op,

1.The website you are promoting teaches that the earth is 6,000 years old!!!

2.It teaches bible inerrancy(a man lodged in the stomach of a fish for 3 days)!!!

3.It is run by a fraudster!!!

4.He teaches that the moon is a source of light(Imbecility)!!!

Link 1:......................................................https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ken_Ham

Link 2:......................................................http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionprof/2012/06/ken-ham-wants-other-christians-to-be-con-artists-like-he-is.html

Link 3:......................................................http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sean-mcelwee/ken-ham-is-a-quack-not-a-_b_4734881.html

Link 4:......................................................https://skepticalteacher./2013/08/17/ken-ham-drops-all-pretense-and-admits-creationism-isnt-scientific/

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:38pm On Oct 02, 2017
vaxx:
evolution theory don't claim human evolve from apes...it only state we share common ancestors with them...they are called proto primate..... Sincerly speaking we have more similarities with monkey....


Well, a quick search will reveal to you that, allegedly, the "Last Common Ancestor of Humans and Apes Looked Like Gorilla or Chimpanzee."

What can we call such a thing?

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:39pm On Oct 02, 2017
Niflheim:
@op,

1.The website you are promoting teaches that the earth is 6,000 years old!!!

2.It teaches bible inerrancy(a man lodged in the stomach of a fish for 3 days)!!!

3.It is run by a fraudster!!!

4.He teaches that the moon is a source of light(Imbecility)!!!

Link 1:......................................................https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ken_Ham

Link 2:......................................................http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionprof/2012/06/ken-ham-wants-other-christians-to-be-con-artists-like-he-is.html

Link 3:......................................................http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sean-mcelwee/ken-ham-is-a-quack-not-a-_b_4734881.html

Link 4:......................................................https://skepticalteacher./2013/08/17/ken-ham-drops-all-pretense-and-admits-creationism-isnt-scientific/

Hey hey hey!

Easy with spittle-throwing and rants.
DoctorAlien:


Well, a quick search will reveal to you that, allegedly, the "Last Common Ancestor of Humans and Apes Looked Like Gorilla or Chimpanzee."

What can we call such a thing?

If you think that the stories recorded in the Bible could not have happened, I challenge you to tell me how the universe could have popped into existence from nothing.

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by adepeter2027(m): 3:44pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Hey hey hey!

Easy with spittle-throwing and rants.


If you think that the stories recorded in the Bible could not have happened, I challenge you to tell me how the universe could have popped into existence from nothing.
Same way God popped out from nothing

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by vaxx: 3:46pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Well, a quick search will reveal to you that, allegedly, the "Last Common Ancestor of Humans and Apes Looked Like Gorilla or Chimpanzee."

What can we call sucheck a thing?
have you read Charles Darwin origin of species.... If not go and get a copy....no one really know how our proto primate look....i created a thread for this question....they are suggestion anyway....human are more closely related with mordarn apes than monkey,, gorilla and chimpazee...and that suggest our ancestor , proto primate ...may have similar feature of apes and human

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by Nobody: 3:48pm On Oct 02, 2017
adepeter2027:
Same way God popped out from nothing
or aliens cheesy
adepeter2027:
Same way God popped out from nothing
or aliens

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by Nobody: 3:51pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Hey hey hey!

Easy with spittle-throwing and rants.


If you think that the stories recorded in the Bible could not have happened, I challenge you to tell me how the universe could have popped into existence from nothing.

according to the bible the earth popped out of nothing na "let three be" and pop like the power puff girls there was

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by shadeyinka(m): 3:51pm On Oct 02, 2017
Couldn't it be that Apes evolved from humans?
Are evolutionists saying this is completely improbable?

Anything as long as it is not in the Bible.....
Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:52pm On Oct 02, 2017
vaxx:
have you read Charles Darwin origin of species.... If not go and get a copy....no one really know how our proto primate look....i created a thread for this question....they are suggestion anyway....human are more closely related with mordarn apes than monkey,, gorilla and chimpazee...and that suggest our ancestor , proto primate ...may have similar feature of apes and human

Well, this website below tells us that the ancestor looked a lot like a chimpanzee or gorilla.

http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/science-homo-pan-last-common-ancestor-03220.html

I like how you evolutionists sound so sure when you make proclamations about evolution.

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by shadeyinka(m): 3:55pm On Oct 02, 2017
Proudgorgeousga:


according to the bible the earth popped out of nothing na "let three be" and pop like the power puff girls there was

You don't know the scriptures.

In the BEGINNING, God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was without form and void and darkness was over the deep. And God said, Let there be light and there was light....

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:55pm On Oct 02, 2017
Proudgorgeousga:


according to the bible the earth popped out of nothing na "let three be" and pop like the power puff girls there was

That's the point, dear. Most evolutionists believe, by faith too, that the universe popped into existence from nothing.

I think I find the Bible much more credible than evolutionary storytelling.

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by Nobody: 4:02pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:


That's the point, dear. Most evolutionists believe, by faith too, that the universe popped into existence from nothing.

I think I find the Bible much more credible than evolutionary storytelling.

is there a probability of an intelligent designer that kick started the process and sustains it? yes, possible maybe


Bible more credible than evolutionary biology? fùcking hilarious. a booking filled with folklore, myths, talking donkeys and rib woman with absolutely no evidence contradictions puhleease! miss me with the bullshìt.

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:07pm On Oct 02, 2017
Proudgorgeousga:


is there a probability of an intelligent designer that kick started the process and sustains it? yes, possible maybe


Bible more credible than evolutionary biology? fùcking hilarious. a booking filled with folklore, myths, talking donkeys and rib woman with absolutely no evidence contradictions puhleease! miss me with the bullshìt.

Okay. I'D rather believe the Bible than believe that a single cell in the ocean gave rise to every living thing by unprovable processes.

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by Nobody: 4:10pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Okay. I'D rather believe the Bible than believe that a single cell in the ocean gave rise to every living thing by unprovable processes.

good 4 you.
Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:13pm On Oct 02, 2017
Proudgorgeousga:


good 4 you.
"It is a considerable strain on one’s credulity to assume that finely balanced systems such as certain sense organs (the eye of vertebrates, or the bird’s feather) could be improved by random mutations." -Ernst Mayr (Systematics and the Origin of Species, p. 296)

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by vaxx: 4:15pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Well, this website below tells us that the ancestor looked a lot like a chimpanzee or gorilla.

http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/science-homo-pan-last-common-ancestor-03220.html

I like how you evolutionists sound so sure when you make proclamations about evolution.
I am not an evolutionist or creationist ...am a student of the two....I just love learning that is all...it doesn't matter who among the primate our ancestor really look like.....chimpanzees , gorillas , monkey , apes and human are all primate... But in a conclusion present human are more closely related with modern apes than any of the primate....


Get the AUTHOR book himself origin of species..... By the evolution theory propounder himself..Charles Darwin

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by Nobody: 4:17pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:

"It is a considerable strain on one’s credulity to assume that finely balanced systems such as certain sense organs (the eye of vertebrates, or the bird’s feather) could be improved by random mutations." -Ernst Mayr (Systematics and the Origin of Species, p. 296)

It is entirely stupid to believe a virgin conceived without sex or sperm from artificial insemination and conceived a male child. where did the Y chromosome come from?


proudgorgeousga

nairaland 2017.

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:19pm On Oct 02, 2017
Proudgorgeousga:


It is entirely stupid to believe a virgin conceived without sex or sperm from artificial insemination and conceived a male child. where did the Y chromosome come from?


proudgorgeousga

nairaland 2017.

From the One who created everything from nothing.

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:21pm On Oct 02, 2017
vaxx:
I am not a an evolutionist or creationist ...am a student of the two....I just love learning that is all...it doesn't matter who among the primate our ancestor really look at.....chimpanzees , gorillas , monkey , apes and human are all primate... But in a conclusion present human are more closely related with modern apes than any of the primate....


Get the AUTHOR book himself origin of species..... By the evolution theory propounder himself..Charles Darwin

I don't even know what you mean by closely related.

Anyway, I decline to read that fairytale. This below is enough reason:

"In the first edition of his book On the Origin of Species, Darwin said that he had no difficulty imagining a race of bears entering the water to catch fish and then slowly developing wider mouths, shorter legs, and longer tails, until they evolved by chance into the great whales."

Source: answersingenesis.org

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by Nobody: 4:22pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:


From the One who created everything from nothing.


feathers got improved by the aliens who started everything cool

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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by Nobody: 4:22pm On Oct 02, 2017
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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by Nobody: 4:22pm On Oct 02, 2017
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Re: If We Resemble Apes, Does That Mean We Evolved From Apes? by vaxx: 4:23pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:


I don't even know what you mean by closely related.

Anyway, I decline to read that fairytale. This below is enough reason:

"In the first edition of his book On the Origin of Species, Darwin said that he had no difficulty imagining a race of bears entering the water to catch fish and then slowly developing wider mouths, shorter legs, and longer tails, until they evolved by chance into the great whales."

Source: answersingenesis.org
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