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Apostle Ele Adeojo Replies Daddy Freeze by Omede2u2(m): 7:09am On Oct 15, 2017 |
TOPIC: RESPONSE TO THE TWENTY FOUR
POINTS RAISED FROM LINDA IKEJI'S
INTERVIEW WITH DADDY FREEZE ON TITHING.
1. DADDY FREEZE: "Anyone paying tithe to a
Nigerian pastor is a goat"!
RESPONSE: That is an extreme emotional
outburst, and wrong to call a free moral
being a goat for practicing what he/she
believes. You can make your point if you feel
you know better without insults; that is how
matured people respond. Knowledge puffs
up though; however, insults like this can
mean contempt to their Maker too.
2. DADDY FREEZE: "The transfer of physical
wealth to spiritual wealth was done in
Matthew 25; and has nothing to do with
giving to pastors".
RESPONSE: Matt. 25:31-46 is not a reference
to the Church but to the Gentile nations,
after the battle of Armageddon, and the
establishment of Christ's millennial reign on
earth (the kingdom age). It can be applied to
the Church, but can't be used to formulate a
doctrine to mean a prescription from the
Lord on giving.
3. DADDY FREEZE: "You want to give your
money to Jesus? Give it to the sick in
hospitals, the homeless, hungry, naked etc"
RESPONSE: The Church is not a charity
organisation, but certainly do the work of
charity. The primary assignment of the
Church is to preach the gospel to win souls,
and disciple the souls won by teaching them
the word of God (Matt. 28:19-20; Mk.
16:15-20; 1 Tim. 2:3-6. One of the basic
reasons for giving in church generally, is so
that this vision and mission of the Lord can
be fulfilled easily on a corporate level.
4. DADDY FREEZE: "Don't give to one of this
jet-flying daddy G. Os, who should, as far as i
am concerned be giving to you".
RESPONSE: You can't sit on an interview to
castigate men who give more than you can
ever imagine, simply because they don't
display it on TV or in public space. The Bible
says when you give, it should be in secret
and not openly (Matt. 6:1-4). Any true church
or pastor does give generously, and assist
the needy without drawing any attention to
itself. Moreover, giving to a man of God
makes you a partaker or partner of his
grace (Phil. 1:5-7l,receiving from him
however, only meets your physical need.
5. DADDY FREEZE: "A very popular Nigerian
verse, Mal. 3:8-10, by a minor prophet, who
was referring to the Levites, and not the
people; because you choose not to read and
be enlightened. The story started in Neh.
10:38".
RESPONSE: The address in Nehemiah chapter
10 began from verse 28, and not verse 38; it
was addressing the whole Israelites, and
verse 38 was specific to priests. In Malachi
chapter 2 ,the rebuke began with the
priests, to the men concerning marriage and
divorce, and in chapter 3, the reference was
to Judah and Jerusalem as it relates to their
offerings and tithes being acceptable before
the Lord, and not just the levites.
6. DADDY FREEZE: "The church and pastors
are sitting on 10% of eighty million
Christians, to build more churches and
enslave more people. How does that
translate to electricity, good jobs, schools
etc".
RESPONSE: The responsibility of the
government shouldn't be transferred to the
Church; but if the Church decides to assist
the government, we should see it as it is, an
assistance and a mere privilege. The Bible is
clear on what tithes should be used for, and
not for what you are purporting. For the
records, not all people who attend church
pay tithes, it is not all even who believe in
tithing that are committed to it faithfully.
7. DADDY FREEZE: "You cannot get married to
anyone who doesn't pay tithe in the
church".
RESPONSE: Tithing is one of the yardstick to
prove a man's commitment in the local
assembly he claims to belong to. Moreover, a
man's heart is where his treasures are (Matt.
6:21). Giving is a sign you believe in the
vision of the church you attend, and you
don't have any business giving or trying to
marry where you don't believe in, or belong
to!
8. DADDY FREEZE: "Tithe is not a genuine
doctrine but a false doctrine. Jesus never
paid tithe and never collected tithe, never
told His disciples to pay tithe".
RESPONSE: Jesus could even go to John's
baptism to fulfill all righteousness, and
wasn't tithing; are you kidding me? He also
had a treasurer, and people His ministry
blessed gave to Him out of their substances,
and not leftovers (Lk. 8:1-3)? Jesus never
had to command His disciples and followers
to tithe, because tithe was already a norm
with the Jews; He didn't need to teach them
what they already knew. Your point here is
not strong enough to either render tithing a
false doctrine or validate it as correct using
the laws of hermeneutics.
9. DADDY FREEZE: "Jesus spoke about tithe in
passing, and rebuking them".
RESPONSE: It wasn't a statement in passing
in Matt. 23:23, but Jesus was helping them
to put their priorities right; that there is no
use paying tithe and ignoring acting
according to justice and equity towards all
mankind. Our Lord did not object to their
paying tithes even to the tiniest fraction, but
was against them doing it to the utter
neglect of justice, mercy, and faith.
10. DADDY FREEZE: "Back then, tithe was
herbs, plants, and animals etc. Someone
even said to me that, there was no money
back then".
RESPONSE: There were predominantly
farmers and tithed what the had and what
came in as income.
11. DADDY FREEZE: "Deut. 14:22-26, says you
can sell your tithe and bring the money and
buy whatever you like; which includes beer
and strong drink etc. You are supposed to
bring it to the place the Lord has chosen.
Have you seen anybody drink bear in
church"?
RESPONSE: This is a misinterpretation and
misconception of Deuteronomy 14:22-26,
that is presented here. The word to "Truly
tithe" means and refers to the second tithe,
which themselves were to eat (Deut. 14:23);
however, there was a first tithe that was
given to the Levites, out of which they paid a
tenth part to the priests (Num. 18:24-28;
Neh. 10:37-38). The first tithe was for the
maintenance of the Levites, who taught
them the good knowledge of God,
ministered to them in holy things; it was
entailed upon the Levites as an inheritance
by law, because they had no inheritance in
Israel (Num. 18:24).
However, the reason for a second portion
from the produce of their land was required
was against the backdrop of the
covetousness, distrust, and selfishness of
the human heart. The act promoted
friendliness, liberality, and cheerfulness; and
raised a fund relief of the poor. They were
taught that worldly portion was most
comfortably enjoyed, when shared with the
brethren who were in want.
If we thus serve God, and do good with
what we have, the Lord will bless us in all
the works of our hand. The blessing is what
guarantees the outward prosperity, and
without which, the works of our hands will
bring forth nothing.
Finally, talking about beer and strong drinks,
the New Testament believer is a king and
priest, and therefore, alcoholic beverages
don't go with such a high calling in Christ.
12. DADDY FREEZE: Tithing is not every
month, the first year, you are supposed to
eat it; i don't see how it turns to every
month. How does something you do once in
three years becomes something you do
every month"?
RESPONSE: Tithe is bringing all the tenth of
the increase of all thy seed, that the field
brings forth year by year (Deut. 14:22);
because they were farmers who have yearly
harvest and increase. Today, people work or
do business apart from farming, and are
paid either daily, weekly or monthly; so they
don't need to wait to pay their tithe
annually.
To be continued. 1 Like |
Re: Apostle Ele Adeojo Replies Daddy Freeze by Saammiee(m): 7:29am On Oct 15, 2017 |
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Re: Apostle Ele Adeojo Replies Daddy Freeze by Omede2u2(m): 7:31am On Oct 15, 2017 |
Saammiee:. Issorite |
Re: Apostle Ele Adeojo Replies Daddy Freeze by Nukilia: 7:44am On Oct 15, 2017 |
What a world! |
Re: Apostle Ele Adeojo Replies Daddy Freeze by damosky12(m): 8:03am On Oct 15, 2017 |
The Daddy Freeze man actually doesn't know much. Any knowledgeable man of the scriptures will see how lame he is with his petulant and irascible behavior. Speaking against Pastors whom the Bible claims must be honored (1 These 5:11-13, 1 Timothy 5:17) and quoting from the same Bible is ignorance. |
Re: Apostle Ele Adeojo Replies Daddy Freeze by An2elect2(f): 8:11am On Oct 15, 2017 |
He likened tithe payers to goats. Even the Bible labels a rebellious man same and worse Matthew 25:31–46: "But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats 2Peter 2:22 It has happened to them according to the true proverb, "A DOG RETURNS TO ITS OWN VOMIT," and, "A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire." So God is not a fan of "political correctness" That's why weak and gullible people can't stand Him but run to false Christs and ministers. |
Re: Apostle Ele Adeojo Replies Daddy Freeze by gabe: 8:17am On Oct 15, 2017 |
Freeze don't touch our private jet money o |
Re: Apostle Ele Adeojo Replies Daddy Freeze by Topgainer: 8:42am On Oct 15, 2017 |
No Apostle of Jesus would talk the way this self-acclaimed Senior Apostle has spoken. I read his shallow twisting of the Bible to support tithe. e.g. from point 7 down. Quoting scripture randomly to suit his bias. It is obvious he is among the gang that will mandate an intending couple to clear arrears of 10% of their income before any wedding can take place. His extrapolation of Matt 6:21 about heart and treasures, and Luke 8:1-3 to mean tithe, gives him out as a major false Prophet and a Bible manipulator. Just look at point 10, and see the pseudo-Levite sum up his bias. The fact that field workers and other categories of workers, were paid cash and people earned daily wages (Money was used much the same way we use it today) yet tithe was restricted to farm produce challenges the Prophets claim I think this Senior Apostle whatever he is, should summarize his manipulations by 1. Giving us a passage where Jesus, Peter and Paul commanded believers to submit 10% of their wages or salary before a Gentile Bishop, Prophet, Apostle or Pastor as Tithe. 2. Giving us a Bible passage where Jesus took tithes from Christians. 3. Give us a passage where Christians paid tithe to the Churches and at what point in the history of the Jewish tithing laws did it change from farm produce to money. As more people are realizing the truth about the fraudulent scheme perpetuated by Gentiles, the very few making stupendous wealth at the expense of the larger Christian population will fight hard to maintain the status quo, through twisting the Bible. Like I always say, they should write new versions of the Bible where they can incorporate their ideas because the KJV and the Greek manuscripts do not have any such commands or laws for Christians. 1 Like |
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