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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by iamgenius(m): 5:43am On Oct 17, 2017 |
ScienceWatch:You are still not contributing to the topic, always saying the same thing and claiming one can't understand the verse without the Holy Spirit. God gave us our brain to think and we are not like animals. Jesus is Son of God and Son of man, he called himself those names and he didn't object to it when being addressed as a human being. What I just need from you guys is to bring a verse where Jesus says he is God, then I would believe every other verse you referenced. If you say you and your father are one; it simply means in doing some certain things but not everything. It would make no sense your Father give you every right as a father. It would make no sense you sleep with your mother and say since you and your Father are one so you are now your father. I know you would probably say I don't have the Holy Spirit. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by umarshek6(m): 5:51am On Oct 17, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI:u failed to even understand that which u read Mark14;50 "And they all forsook Him and fled". What does it mean No go copy history come paste for me |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by alBHAGDADI: 6:44am On Oct 17, 2017 |
umarshek6:You have also proven, just like the OP, that you lack knowledge concerning what you want to argue about. You just picked one verse and used it out of context. That verse you picked spoke of the moment when Jesus was arrested. That doesn't mean his disciples didn't later come back. I showed you a verse where John and Mary were at the cross when Jesus died, but a deceived person like you decided to go time being deceived by picking a verse and using it out of context. John 19:25-26 Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, "Woman, here is your son," |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by umarshek6(m): 7:01am On Oct 17, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI:.So U knew dat he did not say he is not god worship me and u keep on praying in his name. So now is now hu Brainwashing demselves.? Which religion is filled with lies ? U need to go to hospital and c hw souls are removed from majority of d christians on deathbed how dey cry in agony whereas if a muslim dies beside u might not even knw if he didn't recite d asshadatyn Iamgenius abeg close dis thread dey. Don't have answers Leave dem to drown in their ignorance I have fullfiled my part by enlightening u |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by umarshek6(m): 7:05am On Oct 17, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI:. I don't have anything to say to you since know the truth keep on caging it untill the day of judgement |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by Originakalokalo(m): 7:26am On Oct 17, 2017 |
umarshek6: Ignorance. 1. 24 elders worshiped Jesus in the book of Revelation 2. When he ressurected , The disciples worshiped him. Give your Life to Jesus. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by Originakalokalo(m): 7:32am On Oct 17, 2017 |
alBHAGDADI: 24 elders worshiped Jesus. After ressurection, the disciples worshiped him. Someone that look like him died abi? And the Jews refused to believe him on the account that their Messiah DIED. Which was not what they expected. If you believe him to be a prophet, He is the greatest prophet. Birth, Lifestyle (Your book calls him the righteous) and Miracles. Do you believe That? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by enilove(m): 7:38am On Oct 17, 2017 |
ScienceWatch: God bless you. That second to the last paragraph above was what I read and opened my understanding more about who Jesus is. John 8:56-59 KJV Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it , and was glad. [57] Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? [58] Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. [59] Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. When I read d above, I went to read the account of Abraham and I discovered it is actually written that Abraham saw Jesus : Genesis 18:1-3,22-23,32 KJV And the Lord ( Jesus ) appeared unto him (Abraham) in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; [2] And he ( Abraham )lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them , he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, [3] And said, My Lord ( not my Lords ), if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant: ...........[22] And the men ( Angels) turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord . [23] And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked? [32] And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake. Abraham was a servant or messanger of God , how come he called himself a servant of Jesus , if Jesus was a mere servant of God like him. No one can see God and live , anywhere we read that Moses or anyone saw God, we should know that it is Jesus Son of God they saw and not a mistake or contradiction Jesus is God the Son . |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by umarshek6(m): 8:19am On Oct 17, 2017 |
Originakalokalo:from genesis to revealation is not written dat he is God i may b a small boy but dont take to b stupid |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by ScienceWatch: 9:19am On Oct 17, 2017 |
iamgenius:I understand Sir, you sound frustrated and confused. Let not your heart be trouble ! It is now well known that there are three faculties that a human can use to interpret information. The lowest is logic, then higher reason, then highest intuition(spiritual) I am trying hard to keep the debate simple for the sake of clarity to help you switch your thinking to the next level which is reason. which can take you a little farther. I respect Islam, Judiasm, Christianity, Hinduism, Chinese traditional religion and Buddhism. I note with respect that your logic is not sound because you keep on demanding that we meet your narrow logical criteria. You demand that we "Bring a verse where Jesus says He is God." You remind me of a Nairalander, Pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye who asked me to prove that rape is a sin because he says correctly that there is no place, no command in the bible that says. "RAPE IS NOT A SIN." He never gave up, he will die believing his crap. Here you can see that Pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye was LOGICALLY correct, but his reasoning was that of a fool. If he opened himself to intuition from the light he would never have wasted all my hard earned data. The gospel, the life of Jesus is on the highest spiritual plane known to man, and that can be proven practically, that's why certain truths can only be known via intuition. (Spiritual enlightenment) It is high above above mere human mental abilities. It reveals hidden truths. Allow me to note here that the esteemed Nairalander, Ishilove presented a request for a brief summary that Jesus is God. It was brilliantly and briefly delivered with rare higher truths. But then she was told by a logical thinker that she should have used one or two sentences to present her proofs. Now, this is another example of how impossible this debate will be. You guy demand answers only on your narrowly defined rules of engagement. I venture to say that no good will be achieved by you pursuing your line of thought, because you cling stubbornly to LOWER LOGIC, It will be much more practical and beneficial to humanity to rather explore evidence of the the real practical benefits that the different Gods are giving to its respective worshipers. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by Originakalokalo(m): 9:36am On Oct 17, 2017 |
umarshek6: It's like we are done with the issue of worshiping him. Good. Now, Thomas fell down on his face and said....my Lord and my GOD. Jesus didn't say ..I am not your God. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by ScienceWatch: 9:44am On Oct 17, 2017 |
enilove:Thank you. Let not your heart be troubled here. Jesus said, "No one can come to me, unless the father (God) sent them to me." This scripture is very profound because firstly, its reveals that Christianity is established by the true God and is a deeply spiritual practice. Secondly it releases Christians from the burden of trying to get people to experience the superior Love of Jesus Christ. This work belongs to God. "NO ONE CAN COME TO ME, UNLESS GOD SENT THEM." We can never do it. It will frustrate us and endanger our faith. The back-sliding rate will be very high. Jesus instructed his disciples/pastors in the workings of his superior gospel; which is healing, demonic deliverance and supernatural material blessings. When a disciple/pastor is ready, that gospel will be preached. It is a gospel with mind-blowing practical benefits for mankind. Jesus also said in effect that non-believers will marvel when they see with their own eyes how their neighbors blind child was healed, how their neighbors deaf wife was healed etc all this is happening while the Non-believer spend millions of Naira for painful operations that has no guarantees etc, etc. Jesus said, the miraculous healings, demonic deliverance's and awesome material blessings will make them marvel and hopefully glorify God. Remember what he said, The road that leads to this life is narrow, few are on it. When a person has proven to God that they love him, he will then send them to Jesus. Never before. 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by umarshek6(m): 9:59am On Oct 17, 2017 |
Originakalokalo:reference |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by iamgenius(m): 11:47am On Oct 17, 2017 |
enilove: See how you are shooting yourself at the leg. Your last paragraph said it all. In the Genesis you quoted up there, you pit Jesus in brackets indicating that he is the Lord Abraham was referring to. The problems you people have us that you always misquote anywhere "Lord" and "Father" were written in the Bible to suite your whims and desire of your false claims of God and Jesus. The same Genesis you quoted up there has this: Genesis 18:26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes. If it was the same Lord(Jesus as you claimed above) is the God in that verse, how come that God doesn't know the number of all the righteous people in Sodom since we all know that God know everything and nothing is hidden from him. Don't tell me that he forgot to take his knowledge of knowing everything with him while coming down to the world, Disgusting! let me enlighten you as to who the Lord is in the verse,it was referring to the angels. If you read it with open mind, you will realise that the same people that came to Abraham were the same people who went to the land of Sodom and Gomorrah. The writers if the Bible were good in exaggerating stories which they didn't witness at all. Genesis 18:4 Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree: Is it the same god that you are talking about Abraham is about to wash his feet? Jesus is claiming to be a man not His himself: St. John 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. That John is enough for you if you could but listen and think about it. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by Originakalokalo(m): 2:32pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by umarshek6(m): 2:42pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
Originakalokalo:ok now I see d reason y u. R worshipping but it's wrong to do dat But do you knw that the bible prophesied d comming of prophet muhammad(SAW) |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by bahaushe1: 3:31pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
enilove: Thank you The meaning of John 10:30 is to be understood from the endings of John 10:28 (".....pluck them out of my hands" and John 10:29 ("......pluck them out of my father's hands". From these verses we can understand that once a believer believes in Jesus (pbuh) he sees to it that that believer remain in faith just as God also sees to it that the said believer remain in faith. So, in this sense (ensuring that a believer remain in faith), Jesus (pbuh) and God are one. Jesus's (pbuh) statement in John 10:34 is even more instructive. Not only did Jesus (pbuh) denied the charge of blesphemy but he was surprised at their ignorance of their laws. He referred them to their laws where God addressed the Prophets of the Jews as gods. Jesus (pbuh) is clearly referring the Jews to Psalms 82:6 ' I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High'. (NIV) John 10:30 is an innocent statement well known and acceptable in the Hebrew language and does not in any way imply Jesus (pbuh) or any Prophet of the Jews as God. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by alBHAGDADI: 4:20pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
iamgenius:You are unable to counter me in my own thread. Even the response I gave you on this thread, you have stylishly ignored it. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by DoctorAlien(m): 8:02pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
Who is this that says in Rev 1:11 , “I am the alpha and omega, the first and last.” The Mormon, or Muslim will say that refers to God (or Allah they may say). Then ask, what about here in Rev 21:6, “I am the Alpha and Omega, beginning and the end.” Who is that? They will say, God. Then we refer to rev 1:17-18. “I am the first and the last, He that liveth, and was dead, and behold I am alive forever more.” Who is this? They will say, that is God, to which you reply, “When did God die?” Also, on a side note, The Quran of Islam states that God departed the law and inspiration to the bible’s profits, that he sent down the law of Moses, and the Gospel of Jesus, (Sura 2:87; 3:3; 4:163; and 5:46), and that the word of God cannot be altered (6:34, 6:115). However, most Muslims will state that the bible has been corrupted and that the Quran must be trusted over the Christian bible. The real question is how can the Muslim trust the Quran, if in its very text it states to trust the gospels, and Allah’s words cannot be changed. Another way to state this is in a simple proof which the text bears out: 1 – If the Bible is true then the Quran is false 2 – If the Bible is false, then the Quran is false 3 – Therefore, the Quran is false Source: https://jrcooper.org/2017/01/26/if-jesus-doesnt-know-the-hour-is-he-god/ 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by Originakalokalo(m): 8:53pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
umarshek6: No. I don't. Gimme a reference. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by umarshek6(m): 9:24pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
Originakalokalo: "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Paraclete, that he may abide with you into the age (to come)." John 14:16 "But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Paraclete shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you." John 16:7 "When the Paraclete comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness of me." John 15:26 "But the Paraclete, the Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26 I also have d explanation if u still desire me to further it break down |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by DoctorAlien(m): 9:29pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
umarshek6: So Mohammed is the Holy Spirit? How many people did Mohammed comfort? Those he murdered or robbed?
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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by umarshek6(m): 9:54pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:I didn't bring it frm d Quran. I brought it out frm d bible for u to c spirit of truth not holy spirit Pls list dem And if u don't mind I want to sleep |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by enilove(m): 10:08pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
[quote author=bahaushe1 post=61509954] Thank you The meaning of John 10:30 is to be understood from the endings of John 10:28 (".....pluck them out of my hands" and John 10:29 ("......pluck them out of my father's hands". From these verses we can understand that once a believer believes in Jesus (pbuh) he sees to it that that believer remain in faith just as God also sees to it that the said believer remain in faith. So, in this sense (ensuring that a believer remain in faith), Jesus (pbuh) and God are one. Jesus's (pbuh) statement in John 10:34 is even more instructive. Not only did Jesus (pbuh) denied the charge of blesphemy but he was surprised at their ignorance of their laws. He referred them to their laws where God addressed the Prophets of the Jews as gods. Jesus (pbuh) is clearly referring the Jews to Psalms 82:6 ' I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High'. (NIV) John 10:30 is an innocent statement well known and acceptable in the Hebrew language and does not in any way imply Jesus (pbuh) or any Prophet of the Jews Something that is so glaring that the whole world can see . You said Jesus did not deny the charge of blasphemy that is right because he did not see his statement as blasphemy. Read again, incase : John 10:30-39 KJV I and my Father are one. [31] Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. [32] Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? [33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. [34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? [35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; [36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? [37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. [38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. [39] Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand, These verses show ,clearly ,that Jesus agreed that he called himself God. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by Originakalokalo(m): 12:36am On Oct 18, 2017 |
umarshek6: I will send you a comforter. The SPIRIT OF TRUTH. He shall teach you all things. He shall remind you all things That I have taught you. He shall not speak of his own He shall glorify me The world does not know him You know him. He is IS YOU. Mohammed didn't teach us all things Mohammed did not remind me what Jesus has taught me. Mohammed is not IN ME The world knows Mohammed. Mohammed is not a Spirit Mohammed did not glorify Jesus. Everything about the holy Spirit has nothing to do with Mohammed. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by umarshek6(m): 5:26am On Oct 18, 2017 |
[quote author=Originakalokalo post=61523456] He is IS YOU. Mohammed didn't teach us all things He did in his Mohammed did not remind me what Jesus has taught me. He did Mohammed is not IN ME U didn't let him The world knows Mohammed. When he started preaching islam he was not known and till date some don't know him Mohammed is not a Spirit Yes he's not. but he habours the spirit of truth jst jesus(pbuh) him habours d holy spirit Mohammed did not glorify Jesus. He did Everything about the holy Spirit has nothing to do with Mohammed. Because he is the spirit of truth Pls Spirit of truth and holy spirit are different entities entirely ABSOLUTELY NOTHING |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by umarshek6(m): 5:30am On Oct 18, 2017 |
Read this pls with open mind To understand the prophecies made by Jesus on the subject, one has to begin with the First Epistle of John, Chapter 2, Verse 1. Here, Jesus Christ is called a "Paraclete" (Parakletos, Advocate, Comforter, Helper) by apostle John. The same term "Paraclete" is used by the apostle in his Gospel, in connection with a portentous prophecy made by Jesus Christ, before the end of his ministry upon this earth, for the coming of "another Paraclete". Prophet Moses also made a similar prophecy, before the end of his ministry, for the coming of his successor. Jesus Christ declared; "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Paraclete, that he may abide with you into the age (to come)." John 14:16 Note: We often read the verse ending as; "with you for ever". However; "into the age" is the literal translation of the Greek phrase; `eis ton aiona', used by John. These two verses by John clearly demonstrate that Jesus Christ, while speaking of "another Paraclete", was speaking of the coming of "another male figure" like himself, some time in the future, after his departure. The passage quoted below also confirms that the original concept among the noted Christian scholars and populace, for the "Paraclete" was for the coming of a "male figure", but that concept was later confused with the "Holy Spirit". Here is an extract from the world renowned and distinguished Anchor Bible Volume 29A: "The word parakletos is peculiar in the NT to the Johnannine literature. In 1John ii1 Jesus is a parakletos (not a title), serving as a heavenly intercessor with the Father. ...Christian tradition has identified this figure (Paraclete) as the Holy Spirit, but scholars like Spitta, Delafosse, Windisch, Sasse, Butlmann and Betz have doubted whether this identification is true to the original picture and have suggested that the Paraclete was once an independent salvific figure, later confused with the Holy Spirit." (page 1135). The Bible tells us that Jesus Christ, besides being a "Messiah" was also a prophet like Moses, by his own admission. Please see John 5:46 and 9:17. Hence to say that the coming of "another Paraclete" was similar to the coming of "another Prophet" like Jesus and Moses, would not be inaccurate. OTOH, the concept of "Holy Spirit" is unequivocally negated by the following verse: "But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Paraclete shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you." John 16:7 This verse clearly tells us that the coming of the Paraclete was subject to the departure of Jesus. Whereas, the "Holy Spirit" was already present. It was in existence since the day of the Creation and was hovering upon the surface of the earth (Genesis 1:2). It was also present with the prophets of the Old Testament. The "Holy Spirit" happened to be present at River Jordan when Jesus Christ was being Baptised by John the Baptist, in the early part of his ministry. So, how could Jesus say; "but if I go, I will send Holy Spirit"? "When the Paraclete comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness of me." John 15:26 This above verse clears the confusion. The Paraclete is called the "Spirit of Truth" and not the "Holy Spirit". These are two separate terms and two independent entities. The first takes the pronoun "he" being a male figure, whereas, the second one takes the pronoun "it". "But the Paraclete, the Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26 Note: 1. In the older MSS, Codex Syriacus discovered in 1812 on Mount Sinai by Mrs.Agnes S. Lewis (and Mrs. Bensley), the text of 14:26 reads; "Paraclete, the Spirit"; and not "Paraclete, the Holy Spirit". "The Spirit" is a reference to "the Spirit of Truth" as in 15:26. 2. The word spirit, Greek. `pneu'ma', is of neutral gender and takes pronoun "it". Whereas, in almost all the verses referring to Paraclete quoted above and below, the pronoun used is "he". 3. In 1 John 4:6, the terms "the spirit of truth" and "the spirit of error" are used for the human beings. 4. History records that prophet Muhammad was known for his Truth and Honesty, long before he received the Revelations. Jesus Christ did indicate what the Paraclete to come will do in his time. Did prophet Muhammad do those things? Let's examine; 1. "But when he, the Spirit of Truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own initiative, but whatever he hears, he will speak..." Jn.16:13 Note: The Quran is a compilation of the "Divine Revelations" that were received by prophet Muhammad, over a period of 23 years, through the arch angel Gabriel. The prophet used to recite whatever he used to hear. Prophet's companions used to write down whatever was recited. The Quran does not contain the writings or teachings of or by Muhammad, as often mentioned by some misinformed authors. 2. "He shall glorify me." John 16:14 Note: The Quran glorifies the birth of Jesus through Virgin Mary. The Quran also confirms, Jesus was a Messiah; a Messenger of God; the Spirit from God; the Word of God and the Righteous Prophet. 3. "He shall take mine and shall disclose it to you." Jn.16:14 Note: Muhammad did declare himself a Messenger of God like Abraham, Moses and Jesus. 4. "He will teach you all things." John 14:26 Note: The Quran teaches a way of life. It guides mankind, how to live a pious life socially, politically and spiritually. 5. "He will bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." Jn.14:26 Note: The Quran speaks about the teaching of the righteous Jesus and even quotes him. 6. "He will bear witness of me" John 15:26 Note: The Quran attests the miracles performed by Jesus the Messiah. It also mentions one astonishing miracle performed by Jesus that the Gospel writers have not recorded. The Quran acknowledges that these miracles and signs were performed with the leave of Allah, by His righteous Servant and Messiah Jesus. The same is also attested in the Book of Acts 2:22; 3:13 (NASB). Prophet Isaiah is considered to be one of the major prophets of the Old Testament. In the Book of Isaiah there are several prophecies about the coming of the Messiah. In chapter 42, Isaiah begins with a prophecy for the coming of prophet Jesus. After verse number nine, God declares through Isaiah, the "new things" that are to "spring forth" in the Land of Kedar. In the Bible there is only one personality called Kedar. He was the grandson of prophet Abraham, through his son Ishmael (see Gen.25:13). Kedar's descendants had settled in Paran (Syno-Arabian dessert). In the Rabbinic literature Arabia is called the "Land of Kedar". Prophet Muhammad was a descendant of Kedar. God declares through Isaiah; "Behold, the former things are come to pass, and the new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them. `Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth'. Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voices, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains. Let them give glory unto the Lord, and declare His praise in the inlands." Chapter 42, Verses 9-12. God did reveal in the Land of Kedar, through prophet Muhammad - a direct descendant of Kedar, a "New Song" - The Qur'an (Koran). This happens to be the only Scripture to be revealed in the language of the Kedarites. The verses of the Qur'an are recited like a poem. Nearly 1.2 billion Muslims, residing all over the world, recite this "new song" and Glorify Allah, in their daily prayers, five times in a day. The initial Revelation came to prophet Muhammad in a cave of Mount Hira near the city of Mecca. There are several mountains near Mecca. During the annual Islamic Pilgrimage called "Hajj", Muslims from all over the world, assemble in Mecca and shout Glory to the Lord from the top of Mount Arafat. The pilgrims continuously give Glory to Allah on their ways, to and from Mecca. "The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies." Verse 13. In the Old Testament the God often speaks "I" will do this, or "I" have done this; whereas, He has chosen human beings like us, to do these jobs. (see 2 Samuel 12:7-12). Muhammad did go forth as a mighty prophet of Allah, did stir up jealousy among the most influential and dominating tribe of the pagan Arabs in Arabia. Finally with a war cry and roar, Muhammad did prevail upon the enemies of Lord - the idolaters, fulfilling the above prophecy. "I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself, now will I cry like a travailing woman; I will destroy and devour at once." Verse 14. The prophets that came before Muhammad had all tried with peaceful missions. But, the concept of sharing God's Glory continued to surface again and again, in one way or other. It was with the war cry, through the descendants of Kedar (Arabs), these sinful practices were destroyed and devoured, inside and outside of Arabia. The spread of Islam was swift, wide spread and at once. "And I will bring the blind by a way they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known; I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things I will do unto them, and not forsake them." Verse 16. It is an undeniable fact that before the advent of Islam, the pagan Arabs were like the blinds. Their religious and social concepts were crooked. The revelation of this "new song" brought them out of that darkness. Earlier, God had not sent any prophet to these people. By sending Muhammad, God fulfilled His above promise and also the following promise to Abraham; "And also of the son of the bondwoman I will make a nation, because he is thy seed." Genesis 21:13. Please note the word "also" in above promise. The nations of Judaism and Christianity came out from the descendants of Abraham and Sarah. The nation of Islam came out from the descendants of Abraham and Hagar. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are three children of Abraham by God's Covenants with Abraham. This also fulfils the following prophecy by Jesus; "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of Truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth; for he shall not speak of himself; but what soever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you thing to come." John 16:13 For further details about "the Paraclete" and "the Spirit of Truth" please see Section 1 of this article. "They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images; they say to the molten images, `Ye are our gods.'" Isaiah 42 Verse 17. History records that Prophet Muhammad did put the pagan idolaters to great shame when he demolished before them, their 365 idols that were installed in Ka'bah (Mecca), the most respected place of pilgrimage in the whole of Arabia. Today, Ka'bah is the Grand Mosque of Islam. Muslims from all over the world face towards Ka'bah while reciting their daily ritual prayers. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by Originakalokalo(m): 7:20am On Oct 18, 2017 |
umarshek6: Let me give you more. We baptize in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. The holy Spirit promised is the spirit of God. Mohammed is not the SPIRIT OF GOD. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by umarshek6(m): 10:23am On Oct 18, 2017 |
Originakalokalo:it promised d spirit of truth not spirit of God. Stop twisting the whole thing sir. I'm trying my best to make you understand the verse Pls let's continue it here https://www.nairaland.com/4106470/discussion-christian-christian-doctrine-redemption/7 Together with shadeyinka and analice107 |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by analice107: 3:13pm On Oct 18, 2017 |
umarshek6:You must be crazy to think you can tag me along. Follow your Muhammad the dead terrorist to hellfire, leave me out of it. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by ScienceWatch: 12:42pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:Wow ! you great. You argue you case like the world's best high court attorney. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God Almighty ! Proofs From Bible ! by umarshek6(m): 1:00pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
analice107:u and ur fellow members ar all cowards and I proved dat yesterday and hell is u abode Just like him 2_0
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