Emusan:


So who put the singularity point there?

What was the nature of that singularity point?

hopefulLandlord:

who told you something put the singularity there? talk of the usual "God of the gaps" lol

Emusan:

No body talks about God of the gab here
What was the NATURE of the singularity point?

Emusan:


So who put the singularity point there?

What was the nature of that singularity point?

How does this proof LIFE to you?

First of all, tell me what is LIFE and its composition.

dalaman:


There is no evidence to show that Yahweh as advertised exist anywhere. There is only belief that people subscribe to. There is nothing else outside the deeply held beliefs.

hopefulLandlord:


Same way I know you don't have up to 1Billion naira in all your accounts put together even though I don't know when you opened them

Emmanystone:

That's why we ask you to present your own prove how life began nau. But you said you don't know.

How did you get here?

My friend Hopedullandlord said , his parents mated and had him, when asked him further questions, he ran off leaving me alone.

dalaman:


I don't know how life began and neither do you. If you claim to know, then provide the irrefutable evidence. Am waiting.

dalaman:


I don't know how life began and neither do you. If you claim to know, then provide the irrefutable evidence. Am waiting.

Emmanystone:
Is this the same way you don't believe in Evolution or it's just YHWH?

Emmanystone:

And the Lord said, let everything reproduce according to their own kind. Fish like fish, different kinds of animals according to their kind, Man shd reproduce according to his kind.

And the Lord said to Adam and his wife Eve, 'Go into the world, have sex with your wife, she shall have kids and fill the earth with them' And Adam Knew his wife (had sex), they had Cane and Abel, looking like them.

Again, the Lord said to Eve, after she had made her husband to sin, 'Your labour pains shall be increased'.

Today every woman goes theough serious labour pains to give birth as it was spoken.

People are still having sex, getting pregnant, going through labour and having children that looks like them.

What other evidence do you want?

hopefulLandlord:


you tell me since you claim to know

hopefulLandlord:


why do you always pull the false dichotomy fallacy?

OLAADEGBU:


Since you said you don't believe in the theory of evolution, do you believe that the earth is millions of years old?

dalaman:


So Jewish ancient folklore is your evidence abi?

I have news for you even, in Israel today some of the people living there are now saying that the biblical Stories are all false.

http://www.newsweek.com/bible-creation-world-and-story-first-man-not-true-claims-israeli-newspaper-695821

hopefulLandlord:


why do you always pull the false dichotomy fallacy?

Emmanystone:

Lolzz, You don't believe in YHWH as the creator of the Universe, you don't believe the world came to be by evolution. I asked you how you are sure YHWH didn't create the Universe, you said the same way you don't believe i have 1Billion Naira in my account, what is wrong with me asking if it's the same way you don't believe evolution caused the universe to appear?

Na wa for you o. Just answer pls. How do you know YHWH doesn't exists?

hopefulLandlord:


if Yahweh exists, I'll know, the fact that I don't know about a god with attributes such as Yahweh's shows he/it doesn't exist

Dalam0n:
Religious logic:
Believing in ancient mythical and fictional narratives written by mostly unknown acients that have no evidence at all.

Dalam0n:


"Don't trust pr believe anyone who speaks for any God. Stop putting words in God's mouth. Let God show up and speak for Himself if he is real and has this important message he has for humans. It's what everyone would want to for themselves and others. If God can come down and live with men according to ancient stories then he should also speak up for himself in very clear ways that will be impossible to doubt. It's the Golden Rule. It's just Common Sense."

-- Darrell G Punningham

Dalam0n:
Lies, there are no prediction within the bible that is true or beyond its time.


"Sometimes, Christians look you in the eye and tell you in deadly earnest, "God gave you His Word. You either believe it or you don't. It's up to you."

Let's overlook the passive-aggressive tone because there is a much more important problem with this.

God did NOT give his word to me. Nor did he give his word to billions of people. MEN told me what they claim God told them--men who are long dead and anonymous. I have no way to question these men, and they offered no evidence that their words are true.

I have no idea if these men were honest, or if they were liars, deluded, mistaken or had an agenda that they did not disclose. I do know the stories these men told include much magic and superstition and fantastical events that cannot be verified and are hard to believe. And I know they made serious mistakes when describing the world and the universe.

Honestly, even if these men were alive today and I could talk to them, I would be reluctant to believe their stories without compelling evidence. But they offered no evidence at all.

To me, this puts these men in the same league as the smartly dressed man wearing a solid gold Rolex you meet in a pub. You know the one. The one who offers to sell you London Bridge at a knockdown price.

Thank you, but no thank you".

-Bill Flavell

Emmanystone:

If YHWH exist you know? Through clairvoyance or astral projections? I know right? You up there with them, ao ahd know.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahajaha. Kai, you are craking me up really bad.

You don't have a problem with other gods o, it's only YHWH. Satan eh?

hopefulLandlord:


if an omniscient omnipresent omnipotent omnibelevolent entity exists, I would know

Emmanystone:
Tell me how.

hopefulLandlord:


an omnipresent god is with me right now

an omniscient god knows what would convince me of his existence

an omnipotent god can do that thing that'll convince me

an omnibelevolent god would want to convince me of his existence

Daeylar:

It's finished, there is nothing else to add.

hopefulLandlord:


an omnipresent god is with me right now

an omniscient god knows what would convince me of his existence

an omnipotent god can do that thing that'll convince me

an omnibelevolent god would want to convince me of his existence

hopefulLandlord:


an omnipresent god is with me right now

an omniscient god knows what would convince me of his existence

an omnipotent god can do that thing that'll convince me

an omnibelevolent god would want to convince me of his existence

Emmanystone:

The Omnipresence is indeed present with you right now.

The Omniscient God has already convinced you hence, the ordinances of the sun coming out everyday and the moon coming out every night is still here.

Do you want be satan who demands that God do things according to his terms and dictate?

No, YHWH does not answer to you or any of us. You either answer to Him, or you use the door, it's a choice.

Omnipotent God must do things to convince you personally that he exists before you can believe in him right?[quote]

Now, let me ask you this. What and what will God benefit from you if you believe in Him? Pls list the benefits.

Why is there a need for Him to convince you specially apart from what he has already put in place so that you can believe He exist?

Do you know you just did what satan did when he went to tempt Jesus?
He said, to convince me you are the son if God, turn this stones into bread and eat. His motive wasn't to see Jesus fed, but to stir pride in Christ and make Him do things according to his terms.

dalaman:
No body knows what it is for now.

How can mythology and fiction proof life to me?

I asked you a question instead of answering it you are asking me more questions. Just answer my question and stop this evasive tactics of yours.

Emusan:


So you only have FAITH that singularity point do exist. it's all right!



But your own unknown god has proved it to you.



You asked me to use a book you've already concluded to be mythology and fiction, besides, if you can tell me the composition of life the I'll tell you the process that God used to create life. is that not simple?

hopefulLandlord:

our post does not follow at all!

you go spiritual unnecessarily when all we are talking about is simple logic, you have a habit of flunking logic in a woeful manner

hopefulLandlord:


all the sun rising and moon coming out didn't convince francis Collins and WLC at all even though it convinced you, I'm almost certain a frozen waterfall won't convince you, neither would it convince WLC

hopefulLandlord:

first off, we are all different, we as humans don't think the same way so what convinces you of Yahweh's existence "Sun coming out everyday and moon coming out at night" may not convince someone else of Yahweh's existence

hopefulLandlord:

we could both listen to a sales pitch, I buy into it and you don't or vice versa; while the sales pitch convince one of us it wasn't enough to convince the other which boils down to individual differences

hopefulLandlord:

if the sun rising and moon coming out convinces you, then Yahweh knew (with his/its omnipotence) that you'll be convinced by that

hopefulLandlord:

Francis Collins, a staunch atheist was walking in the bush when he came across a frozen waterfall and he became convinced of Yahweh's existence and Christianity being true, he said he saw the frozen waterfall have three prongs and that convinced him that "Christian Trinity" is true

William Lane Craig was a unhappy student and saw some happy students, asked them how they manage to stay happy and they told him Jesus is the secret, that was enough to convince him of Christianity being true

hopefulLandlord:

meanwhile I'm pretty much different from you, WLC and Francis Collins in that the sun rising and moon coming out didn't convince me, a frozen waterfall sounds very idiotic to me, if I see a frozen waterfall what I'll think about are the animal lives that are in it and died; seeing people happy when I'm sad is arguably the most stupid of all cuz they could be on drugs or are perhaps just rich or chose to be happy about the same things that I'm sad about

hopefulLandlord:

This is where your posts veered badly off course

hopefulLandlord:

No! Satan (if it exists and Christianity is true) KNOWS that Yahweh exists, Yahweh knows that Satan is already convinced of his existence, we aren't talking about some extra power show here, even an unbeliever may not know what would convince him/her but an omniscient being definitely knows,

hopefulLandlord:

an unbeliever may say "I want an amputee healing" "I want a beheaded person to come back to life"

hopefulLandlord:

but even such a miracle (if it happens) may still not convince him/her, why? cuz the unbeliever doesn't know himself enough