Ayomivic:
Pls i need answer to this question from good muslim. I have asked a muslim friend but he could not provide answer to it
The quetion goes like this

Torah was given to Moses ( musa' and Seburah was given to David ( Dauda) Injeel was given to Jesus ( Issa)now my question . How was Injee given to Jesus?

Yusuf001:


The Bible Injeel in its original form as given to Jesus .... this means that the the teachings taught by Jesus during His time was from injeel and its came in the form of revelations in bits from God through his angels to Jesus .... its a divine inspiration. .... then these teachings is then compiled in a book form .... by the followers

Ayomivic:
Pls i need answer to this question from good muslim. I have asked a muslim friend but he could not provide answer to it
The quetion goes like this

Torah was given to Moses ( musa' and Seburah was given to David ( Dauda) Injeel was given to Jesus ( Issa)now my question . How was Injee given to Jesus?

smoy:
Apart fro Prophet Muhammad (saw) whom Allah reveal Qur'an for span of years (23 years) as the situation warranted but for all other prophets including Jesus they were given their books at once, though Prophet Muhammad did no tell us much about their compilations but we were made to know that they were given books and must of the prophet were learned and could write and read, Muhammad was only prophet who could not read and write, the book sticks to his unfailing memory and recited for his companions who could write them down. But Allah know best.

malvisguy212:
lies, Jesus never receive any book, Jesse came to preach the gospel. Muhammad misunderstood everything, he thought the gospel is a book, the gospel Jesus bring is the GOOD NEWS.

malvisguy212:
lies, Jesus never receive any book, Jesse came to preach the gospel. Muhammad misunderstood everything, he thought the gospel is a book, the gospel Jesus bring is the GOOD NEWS.

smoy:
take it easy Baba, Jesus was preaching the gospel in form of what? word of mouth or deaf sign

mujahid777:
We aren't saying a book of scrolls written in aramaic popped out from the skies and fell on Jesus's lap,if that's what you so vacously think.

smoy:
Apart fro Prophet Muhammad (saw) whom Allah reveal Qur'an for span of years (23 years) as the situation warranted but for all other prophets including Jesus they were given their books at once, though Prophet Muhammad did no tell us much about their compilations but we were made to know that they were given books and must of the prophet were learned and could write and read, Muhammad was only prophet who could not read and write, the book sticks to his unfailing memory and recited for his companions who could write them down. But Allah know best.

Emusan:


The question is, how was GOSPEL given to your isa?

Imaging a book sticks to an illiterate memory, is it hard cover or exercise book?... This is what you said not an insult.

Emusan:


Have you even tried to ask yourself an honest question about the GOSPEL?

I mean, if gospel simply means GOOD NEWS, then what is the ACTUAL Good News that was given to Jesus?

The GOOD NEWS is about what?

For instance, if you tell your junior one that you have Good News for him/her, what do you think s/he will be expecting?

mujahid777:
We aren't saying a book of scrolls written in aramaic popped out from the skies and fell on Jesus's lap,if that's what you so vacously think.

smoy:
Apart fro Prophet Muhammad (saw) whom Allah reveal Qur'an for span of years (23 years) as the situation warranted but for all other prophets including Jesus they were given their books at once, though Prophet Muhammad did no tell us much about their compilations but we were made to know that they were given books and must of the prophet were learned and could write and read, Muhammad was only prophet who could not read and write, the book sticks to his unfailing memory and recited for his companions who could write them down. But Allah know best.

true2god:
Don't lie against allahh and his apostle. Mohammed forgot many so-called revelations. See below:

None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things? (Quran 2:106).

This is called the doctrine of abrogation in Islam. You said Mohammed was an illiterate man, how did he write down his revelation? If he was assisted to write them down, how did he ensure that what his scribes wrote are accurate?

Emusan:


So what is the GOOD NEWS isa was preaching to his people.

smoy:
The Tora, Injil, Zebura etc are all from Allah and in Allah's mercy and wisdom decided to abrogate them all and for the one Allah coursed to be forgetting are not more part of the Qur'an, haven said that, on accuracy of Qur'an, several companies of the prophet do write down the revelation as they were recited by the Prophet and he asked each one of them to recite what they wrote back to back, one by one for Him to make sure they were all correct.

true2god:
So you are saying that there are some so-called revelations from allahh that are no longer in the Quran? That's good. So where are the earlier revelations that are no longer in the Quran? Do you mean they are lost forever, like a corrupt file on a computer system that is lost and irrecoverable? If you can open your mind, you will learn that both the abrogated surah and the replaced surah are all in your Quran.

Concerning the scribes that helped Mohammed write his Quran, some of them write things completely different from what Mohammed dictated. One of the sahabas that deceived Mohammed, when writing down his so-called revelation, is Abdullah ibn Sa'ad ibn Abi Saar. He is the foster brother of Uthman ibn Affan, the 3rd rightly guided khalifah. You can read Sirah rasul allahh by ibn Hisham to get more clue. You can also check this info online.

Abdullah ibn Saab ibn Abi Saar, upon learning that Mohammed's alleged revelations were fake, left Islam and went back to mecca to tell the Meccans that he doctored some of what Mohammed asked him to write and that Mohammed willingly accepted his suggestions on the modifications of the so-called revelations. If Mohammed was proofreading what the sahabas were writing, this wouldn't have happened, that is scribal errors.

If one of the scribes can manipulate the content of the Quran, what about other scribes who choosed to remain discreet?

true2god:
[s]So you are saying that there are some so-called revelations from allahh that are no longer in the Quran? That's good. So where are the earlier revelations that are no longer in the Quran? Do you mean they are lost forever, like a corrupt file on a computer system that is lost and irrecoverable? If you can open your mind, you will learn that both the abrogated surah and the replaced surah are all in your Quran.

Concerning the scribes that helped Mohammed write his Quran, some of them write things completely different from what Mohammed dictated. One of the sahabas that deceived Mohammed, when writing down his so-called revelation, is Abdullah ibn Sa'ad ibn Abi Saar. He is the foster brother of Uthman ibn Affan, the 3rd rightly guided khalifah. You can read Sirah rasul allahh by ibn Hisham to get more clue. You can also check this info online.

Abdullah ibn Saab ibn Abi Saar, upon learning that Mohammed's alleged revelations were fake, left Islam and went back to mecca to tell the Meccans that he doctored some of what Mohammed asked him to write and that Mohammed willingly accepted his suggestions on the modifications of the so-called revelations. If Mohammed was proofreading what the sahabas were writing, this wouldn't have happened, that is scribal errors.

If one of the scribes can manipulate the content of the Quran, what about other scribes who choosed to remain discreet? [/s]

mujahid777:

Stop peddling your silly conspiracy theories,talk facts

true2god:
Ya, Islam is 100% conspiracy theory, especially the hadith narrations. See below:

Narrated Sa’d: On the day when Mecca was conquered, the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) gave protection to the people except four men and two women and he named them. Ibn AbuSarh was one of them. He then narrated the tradition. He said: Ibn Abi Sarh hid himself with Uthman ibn Affan. When the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) called the people to take the oath of allegiance, he brought him and made him stand before the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him). He said: Apostle of Allah, receive the oath of allegiance from him. He raised his head and looked at him thrice, denying him every time. After the third time he received his oath. He then turned to his companions and said: Is not there any intelligent man among you who would stand to this (man) when he saw me desisting from receiving the oath of allegiance, and kill him? They replied: We do not know, Apostle of Allah, what lies in your heart; did you not give us an hint with your eye? He said: It is not proper for a prophet to have a treacherous eye. (Abu Dawud 14:2677)

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: Abdullah ibn AbuSarh used to write (the revelation) for the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him). Satan made him slip, and he joined the infidels. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) commanded to kill him on the day of Conquest (of Mecca). Uthman ibn Affan sought protection for him. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) gave him protection. (Abu Dawud 38:4345)

Narrated Sa’d ibn AbuWaqqas: On the day of the conquest of Mecca, Abdullah ibn Sa’d ibn AbuSarh hid himself with Uthman ibn Affan. He brought him and made him stand before the Prophet (peace be upon him), and said: Accept the allegiance of Abdullah, Apostle of Allah! He raised his head and looked at him three times, refusing him each time, but accepted his allegiance after the third time. Then turning to his companions, he said: Was not there a wise man among you who would stand up to him when he saw that I had withheld my hand from accepting his allegiance, and kill him? They said: We did not know what you had in your heart, Apostle of Allah! Why did you not give us a signal with your eye? He said: It is not advisable for a Prophet to play deceptive tricks with the eyes.” (Abu Dawud 38:4346)

true2god:
More:

The scribes of Muhammad were 42 in number. `Abdallah Ibn Sarh al-`Amiri was one of them, and he was the first Quraishite among those who wrote in Mecca before he turned away from Islam. He started saying, “I used to direct Muhammad wherever I willed. He would dictate to me ‘Most High, All-Wise’, and I would write down ‘All-Wise’ only. Then he would say, ‘Yes it is all the same’. On a certain occasion he said, ‘Write such and such’, but I wrote ‘Write’ only, and he said, ‘Write whatever you like.'” So when this scribe exposed Muhammad, he wrote in the Qur’an, “And who does greater evil than he who forges against God a lie, or says, ‘To me it has been revealed’, when naught has been revealed to him.” So on the day Muhammad conquered Mecca, he commanded his scribe to be killed. But the scribe fled to `Uthman Ibn `Affan, because `Uthman was his foster brother (his mother suckled `Uthman). `Uthman, therefore, kept him away from Muhammad. After the people calmed down, `Uthman brought the scribe to Muhammad and sought protection for him. Muhammad kept silent for a long time, after which he said yes. When `Uthman had left, Muhammad said “I only kept silent so that you (the people) should kill him.”” (Al-Sirah by al-‘Iraqi)

smoy:
Tora, Injil and zebur abrogated by Allah are not Qur'an, use your God given logic brother, if what Muhammad detected was written in error deliberately or by mistake or He himself fabricated the Qur'an you could have several contradiction, errors, scientific fallacy like what we have today in the bible

smoy:
not an insult but miracle for unlettered man to bring the never reversed or edited book called Qur'an with accurate scientific prediction for the mankind for internal life as well as good living. your question was answered for the gospel.

true2god:
More:

The scribes of Muhammad were 42 in number. `Abdallah Ibn Sarh al-`Amiri was one of them, and he was the first Quraishite among those who wrote in Mecca before he turned away from Islam. He started saying, “I used to direct Muhammad wherever I willed. He would dictate to me ‘Most High, All-Wise’, and I would write down ‘All-Wise’ only. Then he would say, ‘Yes it is all the same’. On a certain occasion he said, ‘Write such and such’, but I wrote ‘Write’ only, and he said, ‘Write whatever you like.'” So when this scribe exposed Muhammad, he wrote in the Qur’an, “And who does greater evil than he who forges against God a lie, or says, ‘To me it has been revealed’, when naught has been revealed to him.” So on the day Muhammad conquered Mecca, he commanded his scribe to be killed. But the scribe fled to `Uthman Ibn `Affan, because `Uthman was his foster brother (his mother suckled `Uthman). `Uthman, therefore, kept him away from Muhammad. After the people calmed down, `Uthman brought the scribe to Muhammad and sought protection for him. Muhammad kept silent for a long time, after which he said yes. When `Uthman had left, Muhammad said “I only kept silent so that you (the people) should kill him.”” (Al-Sirah by al-‘Iraqi)

mujahid777:


“And who does greater evil than he who
forges against God a lie, or says, ‘To me it has been revealed’, when naught
has been revealed to him.”
This verse is a Meccan verse.This alone proves that all what you quoted is a lie,and why are even telling us how one of his over 40 scribes became an apostate

true2god:
Whether this verse was revealed in Mecca or Medina does not change the fact that one of Mohammed's secretary was writing things quite different from what Mohammed dictated and jibril did not correct Mohammed of this grave manipulation. This verse you quoted actually supported my point.

Please read my post again. I quoted Islamic source in all my references and none of the Islamic sources said 40 scribes became apostates. What the source said was that Mohammed used about 40 scribes to write the Qur'an and the name of one of the scribe is Abdullah ibn Sa'ad ibn Abi sarh, the stepbrother of Uthman ibn Affan, the 3rd rightly guided khalifah, who later left Islam when he discovered that no any jibril spoke to Mohammed. Abdullah ibn Sa'ad went back to Mecca, from Medina, to tell the Meccans that Mohammed was fake, hence he was marked for execution when Mohammed reconquered Mecca. He was however saved by the intervention of his stepbrother.

This information might be new to you and its unfortunate that I will be the one teaching you Islamic history as contained in your sirah and the sunnah of Abu Dawood.

Emusan:


So the other books are edited before they were sent right

Besides, you haven't answered the question @OP raised, how was the Gospel (The good new) was GIVEN to Isa?

The point here is HOW

true2god:
Abrogated surah:
There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.(Quran 2:256). This surah was revealed in Mecca when Mohammed was weak and oppressed.

Latest/newest surah:
Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled. (Quran 9:29). This surah was revealed in Medina when Mohammed had become powerful and commanded a large army. He also became a tyrant and a dictator in Medina. Thanks be to allahh, the all-knowing and all-wise. allahhuu ragbarr!

mujahid777:

You guys keep using false narrations that even if they were true,still doesn't prove a thing.If He changed the Qur'an as you claim,then what about His(SAW) numerous companions who memorised the Qur'an instantly as It comes.What about His(SAW) remaining 41 scribes who also wrote It down?
Abdullah also betrayed the Meccans,that he will make up some story to gain back their acceptance is just so predictable,that is,infact,what the story is all about.
Now,to seal this argument.You didn't also add that Abdullah later became a highly prominent Muslim leader and died a pious Muslim .Now go hide yourself somewhere