bunbit23:
[11/7, 19:34] Joe Lagos: .....the sea, and all that is in them... Sir, does this mean created the waters and the contents( fishes,etc) while the gods and goddesses took abode of the seas? I am asking because you mentioned earlier that The Most High created the heavens and the earth except the Waters. Thank you Sir for your time.


[11/7, 19:55] Odogwuakataaka: Good question!
This truly shows that you are following. A good student is proving through questions.

Understand Moses was the author of the book of Genesis.

He wasn't in the beginning to have witnessed the account of creation but was inspired by the most high which brought about the composition just like a similar account as we read in the book of
Ecclesiastics 45:5
He allowed him [Moses] to hear his voice, and led him into the dark cloud, and gave him the commandments face to face, the law of life and knowledge, so that he might teach Jacob the covenant, and Israel his decrees.

Moses as the author has the right to include the letter " the sea" as we read in Exodus 20:11 perhaps to give readers a defined understanding.

In the Bible book of Genesis 1:2
The earth was without form and an empty waste, and darkness was upon the face of the very great deep. The Spirit of God was moving (hovering, brooding) OVER THE FACE OF THE WATERS.

We don't offer false teaching thus most biblical text could be confirm through spiritual consult.

You can take your time to research perhaps to find out from Genesis chapter 1 till the last book of revelation to see where it was quoted or account that the most high created waters.

[11/7, 20:00] Odogwuakataaka: He didn't create waters hence water was in existence. Genesis chapter 1 gave true account of creation, names of things and period of their creation was mentioned and well stated.
Genesis gave readers clear view point making it possible to understand creatures and days of their creation. Where did you read that waters was created and the day it was created, or do you think water was considered unimportant factor that it could be ignored?
[11/7, 20:03] Odogwuakataaka: If you think otherwise, why did verse 2 made us to understand that THE SPIRIT OF THE MOST HIGH WAS MOVING OVER THE FACE OF THE WATERS?

In the beginning, God created Heaven and Earth! Including the water before creating other earthly features but Bible didn't analyse that.
[11/7, 20:03] Joe Lagos: I get it now Sir. I am learning real-time

To help you understand that WATERS was much involved in the period of creation that the true existence couldn't have been ignored: read the following verses in Genesis chapter 1

Verse 6 said
And God said, Let there be a firmament [the expanse of the sky] in the MIDST OF THE WATERS, and let it separate the waters [below] from the waters [above].

Verse 7 said,

And God made the firmament [the expanse] and separated the WATERS which were under the expanse from the WATERS which were above the expanse. And it was so.


Verse 9 said
And God said, Let the WATERS under the heavens be collected into one place [of standing], and let the dry land appear. And it was

WATERS was mentioned more than 20 times in Genesis chapter 1 and 2 telling you it wasn't a mistake if bible did not give us account of how it was created and days it was created.


[11/7, 20:07] Mark Benin: Wow
[11/7, 20:07] Mark Benin: This is gud.


[11/7, 20:08] Eze Ibadan: Good evening most knowing and able GM. Thanks for all the lectures and May d gods and goddesses continue to beautify your brain with wisdom that surpasses man's imagination, so I mote it!
[11/7, 20:08] Eze Ibadan: Good evening to all brothers in the house

Maamin:
Op are you by any way saying God did not create waters(sea)?

bunbit23:



The truth you can't get in the church because they lack the spiritual knowledge.

Maamin:


I guess you are the one lacking in this spiritual knowledge and truth here.

Is there anything in existence that was not made or created by God?, because he(God) in himself is self-existence. There is nothing whatsoever seen and unseen that was not made by him.

Hebrews 11:3
"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

John 1:3
"Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made."

Psalm 95:3-5
"For the Lord is the great God, the great King above all gods. In his hand are the depths of the earth, and the mountain peaks belong to him. The sea is his, for he made it, and his hands formed the dry land."

Romans 1:20
"For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities – his eternal power and divine nature – have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."

Psalm 104:24-25
"How many are your works, Lord! In wisdom you made them all; the earth is full of your creatures. There is the sea, vast and spacious, teeming with creatures beyond number – living things both large and small."

Colossians 1:16
"For in him all things were created[/b]: things in [b]heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him."

Hope you learn the truth you are so devoid of and make sure you teach your followers the same. stop deluding them by calling yourself grand master, your awakening is into darkness. You need to come out of it please. May the light of christ shine on you.

bunbit23:



Perhaps you don't know that I Odogwuakataaka do not give a dog precious food.
Wisdom is valuable. As precious as gold this is why a fool can't get wise no matter how much he try to understand. Secret knowledge of the gods and goddesses belongs to their beloved not to ofeke.
I may choose to ask you one question but what is my gain engaging a fool in a spiritual matters?
Nevertheless, I may like to read in your verse from the Bible from Genesis to Revelation "where your god created waters". Perhaps it's your god that created waters. Since you know bible too well, let us read along with you a verse where your God created waters. If you can't give us the verse, kindly be yourself with your foolishness and stop displaying your stupidity know the public. I have gone far in the realms of spirits and can't return as failure. As for you, you are nothing but a chaff.

Maamin:


Wow! Damn...!!!!! truth as they say hurt right?.. look at you already fuming out of your blasphemous and lying tongue

I have feed you with all the verse from the bible about God the creator of the waters(sea). Oga GM of lies, you choose to deny them in broad daylight. Which of the Lord's favour upon your self deluded existence can you possibly deny.

I see you truly have gone far in the realm of darkness and falsehood

It pains you that your lies were exposed quickly hun! Sorry, But I cant watch you deceive unsuspecting and innocent seekers of truth here.

May the light of Christ shine on you.

bunbit23:



You have started talking another thing like a mad man. I asked for a Bible verse where bible made us understand that God created waters.
That was my question!
I need answers.

should you forgot, accounts of creation started from genesis chapter one.

may we know where bible gave account the day waters was created.

that's my question!

do provide answers and stop beating about the bush!

[11/7, 20:00] Odogwuakataaka: He didn't create waters hence water was in existence. Genesis chapter 1 gave true account of creation, names of things and period of their creation was mentioned and well stated.
Genesis gave readers clear view point making it possible to understand creatures and days of their creation. Where did you read that waters was created and the day it was created, or do you think water was considered unimportant factor that it could be ignored?
[11/7, 20:03] Odogwuakataaka: If you think otherwise, why did verse 2 made us to understand that THE SPIRIT OF THE MOST HIGH WAS MOVING OVER THE FACE OF THE WATERS?

Maamin:


I might choose to ask you when did God created the so called spiritual realm you claimed to be in right now, the Rain, Thunder, Lightening, Ocean, Uranus, Saturn, Jupiter, Andromeda Galaxy, Meteorites, other billions of Galaxies and so many more that was not categorically stated in the bible



Those are your words.

God created WATERS in Genesis 1:1, the moment he created heavens and the earth.

Whenever the heavens are mentioned it is taken in totality of all that is in it. The same the earth is mentioned to contain all that is in it including the sea, ocean, and Body of water(s) in it.

Oga stop deceiving people ok.

bunbit23:



this is what genesis chapter 1 vs 1 said

 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

bunbit23:
Perhaps you don't know that I Odogwuakataaka do not give a dog precious food. Wisdom is valuable. As precious as gold this is why a fool can't get wise no matter how much he try to understand.
Secret knowledge of the gods and goddesses belongs to their beloved not to ofeke.
I may choose to ask you one question but what is my gain engaging a fool in a spiritual matters?

bunbit23:
Nevertheless, I may like to read in your verse from the Bible,
from Genesis to Revelation "where your god created waters".
Perhaps it's your god that created waters.
Since you know bible too well, let us read along with you "a verse where your God created waters"

bunbit23:
If you can't give us the verse, be quiet like a fool
and stop displaying your stupidity in the public.
I have gone far in the realms of spirits and can't return a failure.
As for you, you are nothing but a chaff.

Maamin:
@Muttleylaff help me check this Op quickly to be sure.
I mean I just read that he claims God did not create waters(sea).

MuttleyLaff:
You come across as someone with an exaggerated sense of their ability(ies)

"¹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
²Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep.
And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. "
- Genesis 1:1-2

God created waters in Genesis 1:1 above, where and when it said:
"In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth"

It is the surface, of the not yet separated, body of waters above the heavens and the body of waters on the earth, created in Genesis 1:1, that the Spirit of God, in Genesis 1:2, was hovering over

Do you mind exhibiting some modicum of decent behaviour and language kept in good taste and propriety?

I read your detailed backed up with scriptural verses rebuttal.
Maamin, you just have to settle to agreeing to disagree with him

bunbit23:
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bunbit23:
Now let me tell you something, not to teach you wisdom which the gods have denied you but to review the truth to readers.

Waters is very important that bible must not make mistakes, not telling us the day it was created if bible can remember telling us the day "the moon and stars, heaven and earth, fishes and animals, plants and human" are all created.

if you read Bible book of genesis chapter one.
you find out that waters was mentioned more than 15 times in chapter one of book of Genesis.

if chapter one of genesis remembered to repeat and mentioned waters as many as possible, it wasn't a mistake if he (the writer) felt to give account on the day of creation (of waters) if he remembered others except waters.

Now, read verse two of genesis chapter one.
it says: The earth was unformed and void, darkness was on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God hovered over the surface of the water.

Look, let me tell you. In as much as I don't ask you to get wisdom and understanding (knowing the gods have denied it from you) I do rather ask you respect those who are greater than you. Even people who are mad before you do so. And those who will mad after you shall do so. Looking at your fingers, you must understand they aren't equal.

Even a blind man can attest to that.
Be careful!!

bunbit23:
Indeed it's a secret knowledge. Secret is act of hiding a thing from the unknown.
This is why it's not secret to the known but the unknown.
Understanding the word of truth brings confusion to the ignorant.
From your explanation so far @muttleylaff, your understanding about the creation of heaven and earth means creation of waters?

Do I blame you for an attempt to twist the truth?
You are just like your masters (religious leaders).
You learnt from them and can't make a difference.

But then, try as much as possible to get knowledge and understanding of the words as written in the Bible not as explained to you for truth is light.
Truth stand alone and never lay behind anything.

Waters are waters when you read the first chapter of book of genealogy (Genesis).
The writer was precise, mentioning waters and never called heaven and earth waters as you do!
Why?
Because he got guidance by Holy Spirit!

When he said "God created heaven and earth in the beginning" in Genesis chapter 1 verse 1.

Please spare us false information not to misinterpret his true information.

When he said in verse 2 of genesis chapter 1 that....
The earth was unformed and void, darkness was on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God hovered over the surface of the WATER.

Don't think he forgot mentioning water in first verse bit have to repeat in second verse.

What do I have to tell you here?
We took oath of truth to say the truth and defend the truth whenever and however, even though we did, that does not mean we should persuad ignorant to become wise hence am sure wisdom is as precious as good.
I don't expect everyone to pay the prize, this is why everyone must not be wise!

It took the writer nothing to say "in the beginning God created heaven, earth and waters" if he does.

Have you read the Bible book of genesis chapter one?
If you do, what other thing was repeated as often times as the word WATER?

Then, why do you think it was a mistake for the writer not telling us that water was created in the first day or third day or sixth day as he carefully stated on other things?

Are you learning and growing in knowledge?
Truth is life! Truth stand upright!!
Truth is just and don't need support therefore whenever you are saying the truth, avoid supporting it with anything.
Only a fool find truth incomprehensible!

Angels guide!

MuttleyLaff:
You'll get into deep trouble, the way you're going on with this

Deep is synonymous with something that has length, breath and height. Right?
Now, what do you think, the deep, is, in Genesis 1:2?

Do you think, without initially separating the body of waters above the heavens & the body of waters on the earth, further creation work on earth could easily have continued?

bunbit23:
You have started asking questions to learn from grand master of knowledge!
This you should have done earlier and expect true definition and answers to help knowledge.

[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=70555664]You come across as someone with an exaggerated sense of their ability(ies)

"¹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
²Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep.
And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. "
- Genesis 1:1-2

God created waters in Genesis 1:1 above, where and when it said:
"In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth"

It is the surface, of the not yet separated, body of waters above the heavens and the body of waters on the earth, created in Genesis 1:1, that the Spirit of God, in Genesis 1:2, was hovering over

Do you mind exhibiting some modicum of decent behaviour and language kept in good taste and propriety?

I read your detailed backed up with scriptural verses rebuttal.
Maamin, you just have to settle to agreeing to disagree with him