Why are pastors always moving around with armed police escorts and body guards6? Isn't the blood of Jesus enough to secure their lives and protect them from harm and evil?

Pastor's know what the average christian doesn't know or isn't willing to accept and that is there is NO God that protects anybody anywhere. According to Mike a twitter says: "If your pastor/bishop needs armed guards, he's worried about something you also need to worry about"

And that thing is there is no God out there that protects anybody.

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YOUR epic folly is what you have vomitted here... ITS CLEAR YOU NEVER READ YOUR BIBLE WELL.

Jesus had PETER N PETER CARRIED TWO SWORDS FOR JESUS'S PROTECTION.... read your bible o. its only one of the swords that he later used to slice the ear of a soldier at the arrest of Jesus.

BE THERE CLAIMING U HAVE SENSE.... when you clearly are blind

Op behold they cometh..

greatnaija01:
YOUR epic folly is what you have vomitted here... ITS CLEAR YOU NEVER READ YOUR BIBLE WELL.

Jesus had PETER N PETER CARRIED TWO SWORDS FOR JESUS'S PROTECTION.... read your bible o. its only one of the swords that he later used to slice the ear of a soldier at the arrest of Jesus.

BE THERE CLAIMING U HAVE SENSE.... when you clearly are blind

So peter and peter were body guards? Not disciples again?

Where were they when Jesus was being killed?

Its people like you that make atheist believe christians are deluded and fraud.

greatnaija01:
YOUR epic folly is what you have vomitted here... ITS CLEAR YOU NEVER READ YOUR BIBLE WELL.

Jesus had PETER N PETER CARRIED TWO SWORDS FOR JESUS'S PROTECTION.... read your bible o. its only one of the swords that he later used to slice the ear of a soldier at the arrest of Jesus.

BE THERE CLAIMING U HAVE SENSE.... when you clearly are blind

And the two swords were able to stop the people from arresting Jesus abi?

Why pray to God for protection instead of just arming yourselves since you know that it is the arms that will save you and not the imaginaryblood of some dead Jewish hippie.

dalaman:
Why are pastors always moving around with armed police escorts and body gaurds? Isn't the blood of Jesus enough to secure their lives and protect them from harm and evil?

Pastor's know what the average christian doesn't know or isn't willing to accept and that is there is NO God that protects anybody anywhere. According to Mike a twitter says: "If your pastor/bishop needs armed guards, he's worried about something you also need to worry about"

And that thing is there is no God out there that protects anybody.

Its because these men are all fake and are frauds.

dalaman:
Pastor's know what the average christian doesn't know or isn't willing to accept and that is there is NO God that protects anybody anywhere. According to Mike a twitter says: "If your pastor/bishop needs armed guards, he's worried about something you also need to worry about"

And that thing is there is no God out there that protects anybody.

You make very stupid , useless and shallow arguments that sometimes I doubt if you actually believe you are making any sense . I'll show you how ridiculously shallow, idiotic and egregious this argument is :


1. Most of these pastors use these security agents for crowd trouble and security . The disciples of Jesus Himself played similar roles in three verses I'm gona show you

A. Peter tries to prevent Jesus from being taken away and cuts of the ear of Marcus

John 18:10-11
10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.
11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

B. Jesus made his disciples ready a boat to stop people from crowding Him

Mark 3 : 7-8
7 Jesus withdrew with his disciples to the lake, and a large crowd from Galilee followed. 8 When they heard about all he was doing, many people came to him from Judea, Jerusalem, Idumea, and the regions across the Jordan and around Tyre and Sidon. 9 Because of the crowd he told his disciples to have a small boat ready for him, to keep the people from crowding him

C The crowd almost crushed Jesus Himself

Luke 8: 42-45
As Jesus was on his way, the crowds almost crushed him. 43 And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years,[c] but no one could heal her. 44 She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped.
45 “Who touched me?” Jesus asked.When they all denied it, Peter said, “Master, the people are crowding and pressing against you.”

2. The are millions of missionaries being sent to different parts of the world . Do all these missionaries go with security personnel to protect them when they go to villages and very uncivilized parts of the world ? Most of them go with their families and live among dangerous tribes in the places with very dangerous terrains, unfamiliar and harsh environments .

3. The deists believe that God does not intervene in the universe or the affairs of men . So don't expect any form of protection from God since according to them , God is not immanent .

4. God has morally sufficient reasons why He lets evil happen to even His own people - this does not in away prove that He does not protect His own people . There are millions of testimonies of God's protection by millions of people all over the world . What about them ? Why do you overlook them ? Instead of blatantly and unreasonably cherry picking - a fallacy !



The above are 4 logical reasons why your argument is poor , untenable , specious , idiotic and beyond ridiculous . Go and enjoy your day or start thinking and making reasonable arguments that are worth paying attention to!

KingEbukasBlog:


You make very stupid , useless and shallow arguments that sometimes I doubt if you actually believe you are making any sense . I'll show you how ridiculously shallow, idiotic and egregious this argument is :


1. Most of these pastors use these security agents for crowd trouble and security . The disciples of Jesus Himself played similar roles in three verses I'm gona show you

A. Peter tries to prevent Jesus from being taken away and cuts of the ear of Marcus

John 18:10-11
10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.
11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

B. Jesus made his disciples ready a boat to stop people from crowding Him

Mark 3 : 7-8
7 Jesus withdrew with his disciples to the lake, and a large crowd from Galilee followed. 8 When they heard about all he was doing, many people came to him from Judea, Jerusalem, Idumea, and the regions across the Jordan and around Tyre and Sidon. 9 Because of the crowd he told his disciples to have a small boat ready for him, to keep the people from crowding him

C The crowd almost crushed Jesus Himself

Luke 8: 42-45
As Jesus was on his way, the crowds almost crushed him. 43 And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years,[c] but no one could heal her. 44 She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped.
45 “Who touched me?” Jesus asked.When they all denied it, Peter said, “Master, the people are crowding and pressing against you.”

2. The are millions of missionaries being sent to different parts of the world . Do all these missionaries go with security personnel to protect them when they go to villages and very uncivilized parts of the world ? Most of them go with their families and live among dangerous tribes in the places with very dangerous terrains, unfamiliar and harsh environments .

3. The deists believe that God does not intervene in the universe or the affairs of men . So don't expect any form of protection from God since according to them , God is not immanent .

4. God has morally sufficient reasons why He lets evil happen to even His own people - this does not in away prove that He does not protect His own people . There are millions of testimonies of God's protection by millions of people all over the world . What about them ? Why do you overlook them ? Instead of blatantly and unreasonably cherry picking - a fallacy !



The above are 4 logical reasons why your argument is poor , untenable , specious , idiotic and beyond ridiculous . Go and enjoy your day or start thinking and making reasonable arguments that are worth paying attention to!

Very Well said.

felixomor:


Very Well said.

Thank you bro . Happy Sunday . We will never ever allow foolish reasoning to ruin our day

KingEbukasBlog:


You make very stupid , useless and shallow arguments that sometimes I doubt if you actually believe you are making any sense . I'll show you how ridiculously shallow, idiotic and egregious this argument is :


1. Most of these pastors use these security agents for crowd trouble and security . The disciples of Jesus Himself played similar roles in three verses I'm gona show you

A. Peter tries to prevent Jesus from being taken away and cuts of the ear of Marcus

John 18:10-11
10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.
11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

B. Jesus made his disciples ready a boat to stop people from crowding Him

Mark 3 : 7-8
7 Jesus withdrew with his disciples to the lake, and a large crowd from Galilee followed. 8 When they heard about all he was doing, many people came to him from Judea, Jerusalem, Idumea, and the regions across the Jordan and around Tyre and Sidon. 9 Because of the crowd he told his disciples to have a small boat ready for him, to keep the people from crowding him

C The crowd almost crushed Jesus Himself

Luke 8: 42-45
As Jesus was on his way, the crowds almost crushed him. 43 And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years,[c] but no one could heal her. 44 She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped.
45 “Who touched me?” Jesus asked.When they all denied it, Peter said, “Master, the people are crowding and pressing against you.”

2. The are millions of missionaries being sent to different parts of the world . Do all these missionaries go with security personnel to protect them when they go to villages and very uncivilized parts of the world ? Most of them go with their families and live among dangerous tribes in the places with very dangerous terrains, unfamiliar and harsh environments .

3. The deists believe that God does not intervene in the universe or the affairs of men . So don't expect any form of protection from God since according to them , God is not immanent .

4. God has morally sufficient reasons why He lets evil happen to even His own people - this does not in away prove that He does not protect His own people . There are millions of testimonies of God's protection by millions of people all over the world . What about them ? Why do you overlook them ? Instead of blatantly and unreasonably cherry picking - a fallacy !



The above are 4 logical reasons why your argument is poor , untenable , specious , idiotic and beyond ridiculous . Go and enjoy your day or start thinking and making reasonable arguments that are worth paying attention to!

I was about to type a response to the OP and skin him alive for making such a mundane OP but then I saw your very detailed response which accurately beheaded him and all I can say is one word.

BRUTALITY!

And as a side note, THANK YOU FOR BEATING SENSE INTO HIM

butterflyl1on:


I was about to type a response to the OP and skin him alive for making such a mundane OP but then I saw your very detailed response which accurately beheaded him and all I can say is one word.

BRUTALITY!

And as a side note, THANK YOU FOR BEATING SENSE INTO HIM

You are welcome my brother .

I had to . Got fed up with the naive arguments he makes and this was just the worst

KingEbukasBlog:




You are welcome my brother .

I had to . Got fed up with the naive arguments he makes and this was just the worst

I mean how can someone just get up and type all manner of rubbish and lay claim to them as their reality. Well I am not surprised though since he is an atheist. Rubbish is always their reality.

Next thing he would say now is how your comment proves the existence of God.

Oloriburuku somborri.

butterflyl1on:


I mean how can someone just get up and type all manner of rubbish and lay claim to them as their reality. Well I am not surprised though since he is an atheist. Rubbish is always their reality.

Next thing he would say now is how your comment proves the existence of God.

Oloriburuku somborri.

Lol

butterflyl1on:


I mean how can someone just get up and type all manner of rubbish and lay claim to them as their reality. Well I am not surprised though since he is an atheist. Rubbish is always their reality.

Next thing he would say now is how your comment proves the existence of God.

Oloriburuku somborri.

Exactly

@ emboldened text - or how it proves that the Jewish hippie exists or Jewish mythology and fiction is true .

Together with dismissing arguments he has no knowledge of or unable to comprehend .

Na im style be that

Chai! Men of gods... They don't do what they teach

dalaman:
Why are pastors always moving around with armed police escorts and body gaurds? Isn't the blood of Jesus enough to secure their lives and protect them from harm and evil?

Pastor's know what the average christian doesn't know or isn't willing to accept and that is there is NO God that protects anybody anywhere. According to Mike a twitter says: "If your pastor/bishop needs armed guards, he's worried about something you also need to worry about"

And that thing is there is no God out there that protects anybody.

KingEbukasBlog:


You make very stupid , useless and shallow arguments that sometimes I doubt if you actually believe you are making any sense .

Chaiiii ebuka... See hate and hurt Abeg.

I'll show you how ridiculously shallow, idiotic and egregious this argument is :

Likewise me.

1. Most of these pastors use these security agents for crowd trouble and security. The disciples of Jesus Himself played similar roles in three verses I'm gona show you

I'm happy you said disciples. Aside been security men, what were there other tasks? Didn't they preach the gospel of christ?
Now lemme ask you, this con men of god security men, are they preaching any gospel?
Have you seen any these bodyguards climb the pulpit to preach about christ?

3. The deists believe that God does not intervene in the universe or the affairs of men . So don't expect any form of protection from God since according to them , God is not immanent .

Why do you argue alot for the deistic god?
. Hardly have I stumbled upon any of ya post where you argue for Islam god.

Why?

4. God has morally sufficient reasons why He lets evil happen to even His own people

Suddenly you're speaking for a god who cannot be fathomable according to the Bible. -

this does not in away prove that He does not protect His own people .

You mean he has sufficient reason for not ending boko haram?..

Lmaooo

There are millions of testimonies of God's protection by millions of people all over the world .

God protecting people you say? Or people protecting theirselves?

What about them ? Why do you overlook them ? Instead of blatantly and unreasonably cherry picking - a fallacy !

You people are the ones who count the hits and ignore the loss

The above are 4 logical reasons why your argument is poor , untenable , specious , idiotic and beyond ridiculous . Go and enjoy your day or start thinking and making reasonable arguments that are worth paying attention to!

Oga Ade, you no talk anything Abeg.

No let your mind deceive you

The one Person I will always believe in.. Even in my dying breath...


Is God

KingEbukasBlog:


You make very stupid , useless and shallow arguments that sometimes I doubt if you actually believe you are making any sense . I'll show you how ridiculously shallow, idiotic and egregious this argument is :


1. Most of these pastors use these security agents for crowd trouble and security . The disciples of Jesus Himself played similar roles in three verses I'm gona show you

A. Peter tries to prevent Jesus from being taken away and cuts of the ear of Marcus

John 18:10-11
10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.
11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

B. Jesus made his disciples ready a boat to stop people from crowding Him

Mark 3 : 7-8
7 Jesus withdrew with his disciples to the lake, and a large crowd from Galilee followed. 8 When they heard about all he was doing, many people came to him from Judea, Jerusalem, Idumea, and the regions across the Jordan and around Tyre and Sidon. 9 Because of the crowd he told his disciples to have a small boat ready for him, to keep the people from crowding him

C The crowd almost crushed Jesus Himself

Luke 8: 42-45
As Jesus was on his way, the crowds almost crushed him. 43 And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years,[c] but no one could heal her. 44 She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped.
45 “Who touched me?” Jesus asked.When they all denied it, Peter said, “Master, the people are crowding and pressing against you.”

So you are either saying Jesus' disciples are policemen / bodyguards or that the policemen guarding the pastors are disciples.

2. The are millions of missionaries being sent to different parts of the world . Do all these missionaries go with security personnel to protect them when they go to villages and very uncivilized parts of the world ? Most of them go with their families and live among dangerous tribes in the places with very dangerous terrains, unfamiliar and harsh environments .

Strawman fallacy. No one is saying all pastors or missionaries move with escorts. What we are saying is that those of them who move move with escorts don't even trust the protection of the god they profess to, thus deceiving their members, followers or congregation.

3. The deists believe that God does not intervene in the universe or the affairs of men . So don't expect any form of protection from God since according to them , God is not immanent .

Another strawman. Are pastors deists? Anytime you start mentioning deist or deism, I know that hitting the strawman is inevitable in that point you are about to make.

4. God has morally sufficient reasons why He lets evil happen to even His own people - this does not in away prove that He does not protect His own people . There are millions of testimonies of God's protection by millions of people all over the world . What about them ? Why do you overlook them ? Instead of blatantly and unreasonably cherry picking - a fallacy !

If god has reasons for evil, what are those reasons? If you don't know them, then there are no reasons.

What is the proof that those protected were protected by god? And how can you distinguish god's protection from other sources of protection, or even protection from no one and no where?

The above are 4 logical reasons why your argument is poor , untenable , specious , idiotic and beyond ridiculous . Go and enjoy your day or start thinking and making reasonable arguments that are worth paying attention to!

They are reasons, but not logical. Try again

Oga kingebukasblog the guy above me says your reasons are not logical

The guy would not recognise logic even when it uppercuts him eyeball to eyeball.

He thinks you are being logical alone. He does not realise you are being truthful but in a simplistic logical manner for the sake of the one who opened this absolutely foolish OP.

I suppose his comments are "logical" ba?

KingEbukasBlog:


You make very stupid , useless and shallow arguments that sometimes I doubt if you actually believe you are making any sense . I'll show you how ridiculously shallow, idiotic and egregious this argument is :


1. Most of these pastors use these security agents for crowd trouble and security . The disciples of Jesus Himself played similar roles in three verses I'm gona show you

Why use armed men for security? Do Nigerian pastors tell the members of the congregation to buy guns and protect themselves or do they always tell them to depend on God for their security? Tell me the last time you heard any major pastor tell people to use armed security men to protect themselves above Jesus.

A. Peter tries to prevent Jesus from being taken away and cuts of the ear of Marcus

John 18:10-11
10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.
11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

B. Jesus made his disciples ready a boat to stop people from crowding Him

Mark 3 : 7-8
7 Jesus withdrew with his disciples to the lake, and a large crowd from Galilee followed. 8 When they heard about all he was doing, many people came to him from Judea, Jerusalem, Idumea, and the regions across the Jordan and around Tyre and Sidon. 9 Because of the crowd he told his disciples to have a small boat ready for him, to keep the people from crowding him

C The crowd almost crushed Jesus Himself

Luke 8: 42-45
As Jesus was on his way, the crowds almost crushed him. 43 And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years,[c] but no one could heal her. 44 She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped.
45 “Who touched me?” Jesus asked.When they all denied it, Peter said, “Master, the people are crowding and pressing against you.”

These verses just prove my point. If Jesus cannot protect himself and has to rely on his deciples and their arms for protection accordingto the story then why should any body rely on him for protection in the first place?

2. The are millions of missionaries being sent to different parts of the world . Do all these missionaries go with security personnel to protect them when they go to villages and very uncivilized parts of the world ? Most of them go with their families and live among dangerous tribes in the places with very dangerous terrains, unfamiliar and harsh environments

Missionaries go to places that are NOT dangerous unprotected. They don't visit dangerous places unprotected at all. If missionaries are to travel to places like maiduguri, a Boko Haram stronghold they will not go there unprotected at all. Missionaries do not even go to dangerousplaces where they know that they are not wanted and will be killed, places like North Korea or Saudi Arabia. They can visit the jungles of Brazil or Peru after studying the local tribes and knowing that the people will NOT harm them before going. I've watched alot of such documentaries on CBN back in the days.

3. The deists believe that God does not intervene in the universe or the affairs of men . So don't expect any form of protection from God since according to them , God is not immanent .

What is this nonsense? Are you a deist?

4. God has morally sufficient reasons why He lets evil happen to even His own people - this does not in away prove that He does not protect His own people . There are millions of testimonies of God's protection by millions of people all over the world . What about them ? Why do you overlook them ? Instead of blatantly and unreasonably cherry picking - a fallacy !

1. What are your God's morally sufficient reasons for allowing Boko Haram to attack a church and burn down people that came to worship your God inside the church while the people were wailing, crying and calling unto him for help? Tell me 2 of the morally sufficient reasons for him allowing that to happen assuming he exist and is all powerful as alleged.

2. What are they millions of testimonies of people all over the world? It is a lie, what you need to tell me is that millions of people believe that their God protects them but that remains only a belief, if we are to test that belief it will always fail. If a crazy lunatic or a terrorist carries a gun and attacks any church in the world that is filled with unarmed people he will kill many of them. Their prayers and cries will NOT stop the terrorist or the lunatic from killing them. Tell me of any major incident where christians were gathered and came under attack and they used prayers or God alone to dispel the attack. Just name a single incident where such ever occurred.

The above are 4 logical reasons why your argument is poor , untenable , specious , idiotic and beyond ridiculous . Go and enjoy your day or start thinking and making reasonable arguments that are worth paying attention to!

There is nothing logical, sensible, tenable, reasonable and serious in your post. It's nothing but a load of tripe.

butterflyl1on:


I was about to type a response to the OP and skin him alive for making such a mundane OP but then I saw your very detailed response which accurately beheaded him and all I can say is one word.

BRUTALITY!

And as a side note, THANK YOU FOR BEATING SENSE INTO HIM

Where is the sense in all the nonsense that he wrote down. Let's take just one point of of the many tripe he wrote down. Since you are in agreement with what he said then you should also help him answer the question I asked him. He said your God has morally sufficient reasons why he allows evil to happen to his own people.

Pls tell the morally sufficient reasons why your God allowed Boko Haram to gather a group of worshipers somewhere in Adamawa state in 2014, locked them inside the church they were worshipping and burned them alive while wailing, crying and shouting unto your God for protection and help. Tell us the morally sufficient reasons why he allowed that to happen.

butterflyl1on:
Oga kingebukasblog the guy above me says your reasons are not logical

The guy would not recognise logic even when it uppercuts him eyeball to eyeball.

He thinks you are being logical alone. He does not realise you are being truthful but in a simplistic logical manner for the sake of the one who opened this absolutely foolish OP.

I suppose his comments are "logical" ba?

My brother , You can even spot at least three fallacies from his post . He should try to remove the log from his eye before he tries to do that to another .

butterflyl1on:
Oga kingebukasblog the guy above me says your reasons are not logical

The guy would not recognise logic even when it uppercuts him eyeball to eyeball.

He thinks you are being logical alone. He does not realise you are being truthful but in a simplistic logical manner for the sake of the one who opened this absolutely foolish OP.

I suppose his comments are "logical" ba?

Na wa oo.
First: the guy above me says your reasons are not logical
Next: He thinks you are being logical alone.

Keep it up.

When the unreasonable ones are the first to claim logic, the aim is obvious... Then they create unreasonable threads and struggle hopelessly to have the last say...
They are better ignored cos their foolery is evident in their relentless pursuit of relevance.

@op,
Pastors need armed escorts, bulletproof cars, even body armour because they are scared.

4kings:

Na wa oo.
First: the guy above me says your reasons are not logical
Next: He thinks you are being logical alone.

Keep it up.

They show their foolishness whenever they talk. They just want to support what ever a perceived theist says.

What is logical about the nonsense Ebuka wrote. That is how they encourage him to continue embarassing himself and feel confident about it. None has even addressed the fact that he is always leaning towards deism.

How a reasonable human find what Ebuka wrote up there as sensible is still a wonder... but with Christians sheeples u can expect anything.

frank317:


They show their foolishness whenever they talk. They just want to support what ever a perceived theist says.

What is logical about the nonsense Ebuka wrote. That is how they encourage him to continue embarassing himself and feel confident about it. None has even addressed the fact that he is always leaning towards deism.

How a reasonable human find what Ebuka wrote up there as sensible is still a wonder... but with Christians sheeples u can expect anything.

I tire oo.

Pastors know that the "blood of jesus" does not protect from anything!!! Just as ketchup cannot protect you from gonorrhea!!!