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Is The Bible Historically Correct by afrimerch: 1:51am On Nov 21, 2017
Is the Bible historically accurate?

The Genesis part of Bible lists 10 generations from Adam, its first man, to Noah, who escaped a deluge, and states of these 10 generations to cover thousands of years. It would be really naive to believe that these ten generations actually lived for that many years. So, the ‘mathematical’ statements of the Bible such as [“Shem was born to Noah when Noah was 500 years old”, “Adam died at an age of 930 years”] or such as the one that says that there were 480 years between the beginning of the Exodus and the start of construction of Solomon's temple are completely erroneous and can be ignored right at the outset.

From the deciphered cuneiform tablets available from the extensive clay tablets library of Ashur Banipal and as also dug up from around Eridu (modern-day Abu Shahrein, Iraq), the oldest of Sumerian cities, we now know the ancient Sumerian texts such as the Eridu Genesis, the Epic of Gilgamesh and the list of Sumerian kings. By going through these texts that precede the Biblical texts by thousands of years, any half-intelligent man can tell that the Genesis of Bible is nothing but a rehash of these Sumerian accounts. So, Adam of Bible seems to be fashioned after Alulim, the first Mesopotamian king (at Eridu) who descended from the heavens (the mountains), just as Noah seems be fashioned after Ziusudra/Utnapishtim, during whose time a deluge was caused by the waters of Euphrates River. Even from after Noah, up to Abraham, Bible gives 10 generations that span hundreds of years. So, the list from Adam to Noah in the Genesis is nothing but only a later forgery to lend some antiquity to the Bible and is a copy of an early Sumerian lineage (Alulim to Utnapishtim). It is simply prefixed to a possibly-real genealogy from Shem up to Abraham.

The Sumerians, who lived in the lower Mesopotamian valley, were the first humans to have a written language. They wrote about everyday life on their clay tablets, but also wrote a series of tablets called the creation tablets. They wrote that Man was formed of clay and the women was formed from his rib. They wrote about man's search for everlasting life, and the tree of knowledge, with an evil snake that tried to gain control of the tree. The "Garden of Eden" comes from the Sumerian word “Gu-Edina”, which means Banks of Eden, a fertile valley between two Sumerian cities. This valley is near the city of Eridu, mans first city, where it's burial mounds can still be seen today in southern Iraq. The original account on a clay tablet of Noah and the great flood, can be viewed in the Royal British Museum in London. All these accounts were written over 2500 years before Moses wrote the book of Genesis, so how was it that Moses account is a carbon copy of these clay tablets?

The question for us today is; Why do we continue to believe the Bibles account regarding early occurrences in Egypt? The simple fact is the Bible's account up until the 19th century was our only source of knowledge into the ancient world. The Egyptian hieroglyphs were not understood and deciphered until then, and the Sumerian text even later, up until the 1930's. In fact the Sumerian civilization was not discovered or even known about until the mid eighteen hundreds. Moses record of man's early existence was our sole source of knowledge. In effect Moses was able to keep the truth from all of us, simply because of our inability to read ancient text. In brief, Moses had been correct. He could transcribe early Egyptian and Sumerian text word for word, and these accounts would be believed as “words from God”, for thousands of years.

What is even more profound, is that these earlier writing, are now seen as mostly ancient myths, that carry little or no weight, on human history, while the plagiarized Bible's accounts are seen as the truth. The case in point is the history of the Sumerian king, Sargon, whose history has been purposely buried and hidden by Christian and Jewish scholars, because that history would prove the Bible's account as false and misleading. A cruel irony of fate.
Re: Is The Bible Historically Correct by analize701: 11:23am On Nov 21, 2017
afrimerch:

Is the Bible historically accurate?
The Genesis part of Bible lists 10 generations from Adam, its first man, to Noah, who escaped a deluge, and states of these 10 generations to cover thousands of years. It would be really naive to believe that these ten generations actually lived for that many years. So, the ‘mathematical’ statements of the Bible such as [“Shem was born to Noah when Noah was 500 years old”, “Adam died at an age of 930 years”] or such as the one that says that there were 480 years between the beginning of the Exodus and the start of construction of Solomon's temple are completely erroneous and can be ignored right at the outset.
Lol, if you can ignore them, you won't be here talking about them.

You are deliberately forgetting that God's intention for man on earth was for man to live forever (No death). When man Fell, Sin was introduced into the life of Man and man began to die.

Sir, Sin is a disease of the Spirit just like Cancer is the disease of the body(flesh).

When sin entered the spirit of man, his spirit died and his body began to die also by aging and as sin increase Man's life span decreased.

From Adam to Noah, Sin wasn't as it is today, hence; they lived far longer than we do today.

afrimerch:

From the deciphered cuneiform tablets available from the extensive clay tablets library of Ashur Banipal and as also dug up from around Eridu (modern-day Abu Shahrein, Iraq), the oldest of Sumerian cities, we now know the ancient Sumerian texts such as the Eridu Genesis, the Epic of Gilgamesh and the list of Sumerian kings. By going through these texts that precede the Biblical texts by thousands of years, any half-intelligent man can tell that the Genesis of Bible is nothing but a rehash of these Sumerian accounts. So, Adam of Bible seems to be fashioned after Alulim, the first Mesopotamian king (at Eridu) who descended from the heavens (the mountains), just as Noah seems be fashioned after Ziusudra/Utnapishtim, during whose time a deluge was caused by the waters of Euphrates River. Even from after Noah, up to Abraham, Bible gives 10 generations that span hundreds of years. So, the list from Adam to Noah in the Genesis is nothing but only a later forgery to lend some antiquity to the Bible and is a copy of an early Sumerian lineage (Alulim to Utnapishtim). It is simply prefixed to a possibly-real genealogy from Shem up to Abraham.
So, this epic of Gilgamesh precedes the Genesis account? And how did you know that again?

lol, you would want to tell me that using the years or how long Adam to Noah lived on earth. But, if we must go with that, you'd do well to put dates as in Calendar dates to the years these men lived.

Again, let me help you in the line you shd take.

For you to count the true years of Adam, and ascertain if Gilgamesh came first, you will do well to tell us how many years Adam lived in Eden before the Fall. Reason being that, Years or Time and seasons weren't counting on Adam until the Fall. He may have lived in Eden for Billions of years before he fell. His Fall kicked started Time on earth.

So, pls, to be very sure that Genesis plagiarized the Sumerian Epics, pls let us know the years that spanned from the creation of the earth to when Adam Fell from Grace.

afrimerch:

The Sumerians, who lived in the lower Mesopotamian valley, were the first humans to have a written language. They wrote about everyday life on their clay tablets, but also wrote a series of tablets called the creation tablets. They wrote that Man was formed of clay and the women was formed from his rib. They wrote about man's search for everlasting life, and the tree of knowledge, with an evil snake that tried to gain control of the tree. The "Garden of Eden" comes from the Sumerian word “Gu-Edina”, which means Banks of Eden, a fertile valley between two Sumerian cities. This valley is near the city of Eridu, mans first city, where it's burial mounds can still be seen today in southern Iraq. The original account on a clay tablet of Noah and the great flood, can be viewed in the Royal British Museum in London. All these accounts were written over 2500 years before Moses wrote the book of Genesis, so how was it that Moses account is a carbon copy of these clay tablets?
Now you bringing it up to Moses. Was Moses in Eden? Did Moses See Adam eating the fruit? Did he meet his Great great gran father Abraham?

Moses was only given a vision of what had happened long before he was born for him to write them down.

Again, for us to ascertain who copied from who, we ought to know the Span from Creation account to Adam's Fall.
You are forgetting Satan is a Spirit who sees whatever was done here on earth being that he was cast down here already.
You don't believe Satan will try to make this about him to keep man perpetually under him?
Hahahahahahhahahaha.

The Mistake satan made was allowing Jesus to come to this earth.

afrimerch:

The question for us today is; Why do we continue to believe the Bibles account regarding early occurrences in Egypt? The simple fact is the Bible's account up until the 19th century was our only source of knowledge into the ancient world. The Egyptian hieroglyphs were not understood and deciphered until then, and the Sumerian text even later, up until the 1930's. In fact the Sumerian civilization was not discovered or even known about until the mid eighteen hundreds. Moses record of man's early existence was our sole source of knowledge. In effect Moses was able to keep the truth from all of us, simply because of our inability to read ancient text. In brief, Moses had been correct. He could transcribe early Egyptian and Sumerian text word for word, and these accounts would be believed as “words from God”, for thousands of years.
lolzzzzzzz. I just this question to ask you. 'What happened to the people of these Sumerian land?'
They got extinct together with their gods? The Egyptians still have their gods, even though Islam is pretending to wipe them out.

You mean Moses learn to write in the Sumerian texts and it depended solely on him to educate the world about the Sumerian history?

If what Jehovah gave to him was not divine, do you think the Bible will survive till this day?

afrimerch:

What is even more profound, is that these earlier writing, are now seen as mostly ancient myths, that carry little or no weight, on human history, while the plagiarized Bible's accounts are seen as the truth. The case in point is the history of the Sumerian king, Sargon, whose history has been purposely buried and hidden by Christian and Jewish scholars, because that history would prove the Bible's account as false and misleading. A cruel irony of fate.

Hahahahahahahahahaa. Your bitterness for Christians and Jews will only give you bile.

Sir, you placed Sumerian in the then Mesopotemia, the present day Iragi/Kuwaiti belt, if you know your history you'll know that Christianity or Judaism has never been in control of that region. never in history.

That region at a point in History, ruled this world and took the Jews as Captives. That Belt will be Partly Assyria and Part Babylon, which King Nebuchadnezzar over threw Assyria and brought the empire perpetually under Persia which was Babylon.

It was still Babylon or Medo-Persia when Alexander the Great ruled it. From him his 4 Generals divided the Medo-Persian Kingdom amongst themselves and ruled it poorly. Then the Roman Empire conquered and over threw them.

Rome tried bearing rule over that region but failed as the Ottoman empire under the Islamic rule took that land and kept it under siege till this day.

If you have a grudge, it should be against Islam, not Christians and Jews.

Besides: If the Epic of Gilgamesh was divine, trust me, nothing would have suppressed and destroy it.

Even Islam the False religion is striving.

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Re: Is The Bible Historically Correct by afrimerch: 11:57am On Nov 21, 2017
the Bible tells me that Adam and Eve were the first man and woman and I believe it to be true. even if ancient accounts show it to be false or plaigarised mythical story i believe it to be true, the same way galileo said the earth was round and was almost killed for not believing or acknowledging what the bible believers believed


many of the Bible stories were taken from other sources, and other non-Hebrew myths use Hebrew myths as their sources. It is a give-and-take process of influencing, nothing uncommon or strange or weird: humans are storytelling apes and humans are long distance walking apes so it is logical that human stories travel long distances and are told and retold in different versions.
Re: Is The Bible Historically Correct by afrimerch: 11:58am On Nov 21, 2017
He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him;
Prov. 13:24

STOLEN from:
"With-hold not thy son from the rod, else thou wilt not be able to save him from wickedness." Ahiqar 6:81

Through patience a ruler can be persuaded, and a gentle tongue can break a bone.
Prov. 25:15

STOLEN from:
Soft is the utterance of a king; yet it is sharper and stronger than a two-edged knife." Ahiqar 7:105
The Teachings of Amen-em-opet
Amen-em-opet, son of Ka-nakht, taught in Egypt between 1200 - 1000 BCE. The text is found in British Museum Papyrus 10474 and a portion on a writing tablet in Turin, Italy. The papyrus is said to have come from Thebes and is speculated to be of the 10th and 6th centuries BCE.

Parallels:

Pay attention and listen to the sayings of the wise; apply your heart to what I teach, for it is pleasing when you keep them in your heart and have all of them ready on your lips.
Prov. 17-18

STOLEN from:
Give they ears, hear what is said,
Give they heart to understand them
Let them rest in the casket of thy belly
That they may be a key in they heart."
Amen-em-opet 3:10

Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court.
Prov. 22:22

STOLEN from:
"Guard thyself against robbing the oppressed
And against overbearing the disabled."
Amen-em-opet 2:1

If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty give him water to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head and the Lord will reward you.
Prov. 25:21-22

STOLEN from:
"Leave him in the arms of the god;
Fill his belly with bread of thine
So that he may be sated and may be ashamed."
Amen-em-opet 5:8

Do not move and ancient boundry stone or encroach on the fields of the fatherless, for their Defender is strong; he will take up their case against you.
Prov. 23:10-11

STOLEN from:
"Do not carry off the landmark at the boundaries of the arable land
Nor disturb the position of the measuring cord
Be not greedy after a cubit of land
Nor encroach upon the boundaries of a widow."
Amen-em-opet 7:12-15
Re: Is The Bible Historically Correct by afrimerch: 12:03pm On Nov 21, 2017
Parallels between bible accounts and sumerian accounts

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