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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 6:40pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: I'm not quarreling with your just that you people pitch tents together and saying the same thing and it doesn't take us too long to counter those argument y'all present. Okay if you agree the chapter is addressing the supiriority of one over the other, good then we're on the same page with that. Now, if Analize was saying why the mention of tithe in those verses. She has to come up with the reasons WITH BIBLE STUDY AND REFERENCES and we look at them OTHER THAN THE REASONS IT WAS MENTIONED BY THE WRITER. And don't forget, both accounts of Hebrews and Genesis has to compliment each other NOT against each other. Off course a writer will mention THE EVENTS along side with the ACTORS so we the readers understand what he's talking about. He does NOT mentioned tithe TO ESTABLISH A DOCTRINE for Christians otherwise the summary and conclusion would have established that. The Holy Spirit choose Melchizedek for a reason just because his record of birth, death are missing in Genesis so he was considered not having beginning of days and end of life but Jesus we know his birth record and death record. However we believers are of Christ that's the resurrected Lord n we're not of JESUS. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 6:45pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: Your time is also contributions, your for is also contributions and so is your service. Don't you hear people say stuff like.....my contributions to my community. Doesn't have to be money and it could be money. Again when we say offerings, please understand it carries a different meaning from the bible. We don't give OFFERINGS no more today in the church BECAUSE CHRIST ALREADY FULFILLED THE MEANINGS OF OFFERINGS. 1 Like |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 6:48pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360, Now that we are clear on that and we are friends (I assume)... I just want us to reason something together... If tithes were so insignificant... Why was it mentioned at all?... Analize said and I actually agree with her... That establishing the Truth of the Superiority of the priesthood of Christ would have been done effortlessly without even the mention of tithes. But Tithe was mentioned... Why?? |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Ucheamani(m): 6:48pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
[color=#006600][/color] PointZerom:... Hello, not the same! The Levite's have no properties, no inheritance. That priesthood was abolished when Christ died making way for all anointed Christians in the 1st century to become 'a a royal Priesthood' Tithing is against the principle of Christian giving as outlined in 2 Cor 9: 7 which admonishes Christians not to give out of Compulsion |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 6:50pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360:hmm. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 7:00pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Why are tithe defenders always rude and abusive? 2 Likes |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by MightySparrow: 7:04pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
donbenie: What does the bible say? What are they saying?What are you saying? Whatever anyone is saying is his own perspectve. Including you, your church or organization. Same scriptures different views. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 7:07pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: I just told you....why. Maybe you or she have another reason(s) y'all can come up with it AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT TOGETHER. But I'm saying tithe has to be mentioned because it was an event which happened with or by the actors so we can know who and what is being said. If there exist other reasons, I believe the Holy Spirit would have said it other than the supiriority of the priesthood 1 Like |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Joagbaje(m): 7:09pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360: Wrong. Tithes , Offering , sacrifices are eternal principles . Jesus only fulfilled SIN offering . He didn’t fulfill your thanksgiving offering or free will offering or your tithe or your personal sacrifice . 2 Likes |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Elseductive: 7:18pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
NuclearWinter: Haba, leave Prophet Mohammed out of this abeg, face what concerns you as a christian. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 7:19pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Joagbaje:God bless you sir. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 7:26pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Joagbaje: I knew the boss will show up. Welcome sir. You can use all kinds of technical names to deceive folks that's you that we know. What does Hebrews 10vs8 says....notice things mentioned there including SIN OFFERINGS. Go ahead 1 Like |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 7:28pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: God bless him because he's the chairHEAD, of your crew I was talking about earlier. Don't worry, we'll get you guys straight. 1 Like |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 7:35pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360:Why u dey tackle me na? Do we have to agree all the time?? But does that mean you should use "chairHEAD", "crew" and all to address us?? Doesn't show maturity... But if it makes you happy, then continue. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Investnow2017: 7:38pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: I know you do not pay tithe under coersion. I have been following your discussion on this matter. You seem like someone who wants to know the truth about this matter. You among all are quite reasonable as you try to support your arguments with the Bible. Remember that Paul was a Jew and he wrote the Bible book of Hebrews as a letter to his own kinsmen. Remember he was a lawyer very astute in the Jewish law. That you can fathom in the depth of his discourse on the superiority of the priesthood of Jesus Christ over that of the Levi. There is no record that he Paul received or paid tithe. Rather he supported himself by doing a humbling work of building tents in the course of his ministry Acts 18:1-3. And the advice he gave at 1st Cor 16: 1-3 shows clearly what Christians now have to do to support the promotion of the good news. The issue is not the 10% of your earning. It is using the Bible to promote a personal opinion with a view to benefitting materially or financially in the process. THAT IS WHAT IS WRONG. I would personally give higher than the paltry 10% as a demonstration of my love for God and his Son Jesus Christ. And to say you dont care how the self acclaimed men of god use the tithe is to be spiritually myopic. Would you open your eyes deliberately support a fraudulent cause? |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by MuttleyLaff: 7:40pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360: Jesusgirl92:Goshen360, that hmm, speaks volume Sign of, there is, light at the end of the tunnel Jesusgirl92:Why do you pay tithe then, if not because you're coerced to? I can bet my bottom dollar that your christian gatherings, has a tithe ledger, and members fall out of your christian gatherings' favour, if their names are found wanting in their tithe ledger book. Jesusgirl92:You are being tackled because of the love of Christ people have for you You are being tackled because you'll be better off and effective once you know the full truth Jesusgirl92:Sometimes the name calling shock tactics and tough love is needed to get people's attention |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 7:50pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Investnow2017:if some pastors were "misappropriating" money given as offerings, is it now right to stop giving offerings? Does two wrongs make a right? When you stop giving, then your belief is that you've stopped "enriching" the pastor. In other words, your belief in the beginning was that you give you offerings to pastors and not God. We are only accountable to God for our actions and not another person's misdeeds |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 7:52pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff:Does name calling show the love of Christ?? |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 7:55pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: Sometimes it does....so the answer is YES. Paul called some people names more ridiculous than I'm doing. Don't you think so? Btw, I'll be gentle still on the name calling but you get it every now and then.... Btw, excuse me, the Lord of Christ being....to fight for preserving the truth from distortion in the body of Christ. We cool? 1 Like |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by MuttleyLaff: 8:02pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92:You must each decide in your heart how much to give. And don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure. (i.e. you shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give) "For God loves a person who gives cheerfully. - 2 Corinthians 9:7 Yes it does, especially when calling a spade a spade and some are preventing others to know and learn about how the Bible teaches the "church" the revolutionary way of giving, where believers are instructed or urged in 2 Corinthians 9:7 above, to do 2 Corinthians 9:7, by the way actually, is a rehashed principle God HAS always endorsed, as evident in Exodus 25:2, Exodus 35:29, Deuteronomy 15:10 & 1 Chronicles 29:9 |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by ozimec(m): 8:07pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
BeeBeeOoh: Well done Sir. I don't think there's is a true believer who doesn't pay tithe. A canal man cannot understand the things of the spirit... |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 8:08pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360:Buy me land first . |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by MuttleyLaff: 8:11pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360: Jesusgirl92:You've just learned the hard way, that, if you go onto a tithe battlefield, you will be shot at You dont need anyone buying you land first, that you couldnt buy by yourself Learn about the revolutionary way of giving, where believers are instructed or urged as in 2 Corinthians 9:7 and see how easy it will turn out for you to buy land by yourself |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 8:15pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: Haaaaa, I thought u are Levite that was commanded not to have inheritance. . Btw, I don't hv to buy you land, I can give you one of my 3 lands in Badagry but you have to promise me you'll stop collecting tithe. . [s]Btw, excuse me again.....I thought tithers like you would hv or should have lots of benefits by now. Where's the promise of malachi 3....?[/s] Just joking.....maybe you might have more land than I do.... |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Investnow2017: 8:15pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: @Jesusgirl92. You pick my points selectively. Address the points about Paul's letters regarding the subject under discussion. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by ozimec(m): 8:15pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
UbanmeUdie: You have said it all brother. Many Christians really don't know the work of grace. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 8:18pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360:I go soon wound you... But for now, I don fight finish.. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by MuttleyLaff: 8:24pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92:Time will tell whether or not, that's wishful thinking. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Angel1696: 8:26pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Spylord48:I think that God is using daddy freeze to expose our fraudulent men not called by God |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 8:27pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: No, me and you.....a ti le po.... We gonna fight this truth to finish. Lemme ask you this, do you know why many pay tithe but still not showing nothing for it and some still broke and have to go borrow from non tithers like me? I guess I might show you a mystery here today. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 8:37pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff:Onku, he knows I was joking with him... No need for all the grammar abeg. Thanks. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by donbenie(m): 8:54pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
MightySparrow:Am sure both you and ALL the Daddy GOs read Freezes original article on the issue of Tithing in which he buttressed his points based on Biblical verses backing up his claim.. Why don't you and your Daddy GOs debunk his claim based on the said verses with your own perspective instead of whipping up sentiments,character assassinations and emotional blackmail.. GOD PERSONALLY CONVINCED ME TITHING IS RIGHT,that is what your CON MEN can come up with in defense of their SCAM..#FREETHESHEEPLE |
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