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Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by Mynd44: 2:56am On Dec 16, 2017 |
Caseless:Lmaooooo. You see some of us have come to understand that in every society, there are good and bad. There are shitty Musluns and shitty non-Muslins and like Tupac said "I am one black man; I cannot be held responsible for the actions of every black person. It is ridiculous that you did not attack your friend there who is trying to whip this into a religious fight and whipping up Islamic sentiments and saying this is a fight against Islam as a religion when the former chairman NJC is a Muslim woman and did not find any need to change it. When I have watch 3 students bounced out of a law class because they were in Hijab and it was not in accordance with the school's dress cod by a Muslim lecturer but then we have our own dissonance. The day you realise this is about statutes and standards and not about religion, you will make a much better debate opponent but as long you think this is an attack on Islam, you are free to enjoy your own anger (as if that solves anything) For now, I am not and cannot be part of some pointless back and forth. Let the NLS change their dress code which shoukd be what people fight against but while that silly dress code stays, every law student will have to follow it. |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by anibirelawal(m): 7:17am On Dec 16, 2017 |
Mynd44:It is a gradual process, if we can win this fight,it may later slide to total removal of the silly dress code. |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by anibirelawal(m): 7:37am On Dec 16, 2017 |
Mynd44:Let me put it this way, wearing of hijab is obligatory for a muslima in her everyday life,not occasional. on my observation, i am yet to see any obligatory dressing code of other religion. the differences are clear. 2 Likes |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by Mynd44: 7:51am On Dec 16, 2017 |
anibirelawal:Uncle, you clearly said no one has forced hijabs on people and I told you that it is false. Then you come to say no other religion has a dress code. The Celestial Church has a dress code and says wearing black is forbidden. If we want to go by that, they cant even go around the call to bar nonsense. This young lady knew the dress code and still decided to register for law school knowing fully well that Law School is not a right. Until that dress code is lifted, everyone has to abide by it if not, stay home. But to ask for the rule to change for hijabis is laughable 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by Caseless: 8:52am On Dec 16, 2017 |
Mynd44:read the judgement cited in the article. Lose sight of her religion, then you'd see she's not "wronged" the laws. Courts have consistently held that, having regards to chapter 24:30-31 of the Holy Quran, a Muslim female has the unfettered right to wear her hijab anywhere. The Court of Appeal Ilorin Division in the Unreported case of *THE PROVOST, KWARA STATE COLLEGE OF EDUCATION, ILORIN & 2 ORS VS BASHIRAT SALIU & 2 ORS Appeal No CA/IL/49/2006, delivered on the 18th day of June, 2009, per Hussein Mukhtar, JCA,held at page 15 – 16 of the lead judgement thus: “The foregoing verses of the Glorious Qur’an and Hadiths have left no room for doubt on the Islamic Injunction on women’s mode of dress, which is clearly in conformity with not only the Respondent’s veiled dress but also the controversial article J of the 3rd Applicants’ dress code. The use of veil by the respondents, therefore qualifies as a fundamental right under Section 38 (1) of the Constitution”. The Court of Appeal further held per Massoud AbdulRahman Oredola, JCA at page 2 of the concurrent judgement; “The right of the Respondents to wear their Hijab, veil within the School campus and INDEED ANYWHERE else is adequately protected under our laws. Human rights recognizes and protects religious rights. Section 38 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria guaranteed freedom of religion to all and sundry. Thus things that lawfully constitute OPEN MANIFESTATION, PROPAGATION, WORSHIP, TEACHING, PRACTICE AND OBSERVANCE of the said religion are equally and by extension similarly guaranteed and protected by the Constitution. Indeed the Hijab, Niqab or Burqa, being part and parcel of Islamic code of dressing and by whatever standard a dignified or vividly decent one cannot be taken away by any other law other than the Constitution” Just last year, 2016, Justice Falola of the Osun State High Court restated the law as pronounced in the Court of Appeal decision above while delivering judgement in the case of Sheikh Oyinwola & Ors V The Governor of Osun state & Ors SUIT NO. HOS/M.17/2013 delivered on the 3rd of June, 2016. Bound by the time honoured principle of Judicial Precedent, the court held that the use of Islamically prescribed head cover called Hijab by the Muslim Female Students in all Primary and Secondary Schools in Osun State forms part of their fundamental rights to freedom of religion, conscience and thought as contained in Section 38 of 1999 Constitution of Federal Republic of Nigeria (as amended) and also declared that Article 8.2(v) of the “Guidelines on Administration and Discipline in Osun State Public Schools“ issued by the Ministry of Education prohibiting Muslim females from wearing hijab in public schools is not only discriminatory against Muslim female students but also uncalled for, inconsistent with Section 38 of 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and a clear violation of the fundamental rights of Muslim female students in Public Schools in Osun State to freedom of religion and therefore null, void and of no effect whatsoever. A month after, A specially constituted panel of the Court of Appeal sitting in Lagos on Thursday, July 21, 2016 unanimously reaffirmed its decision delivered in 2009 at Ilorin, Kwara state Division. It reversed the judgment of a Lagos State High Court in Ikeja which on October 17, 2014 banned the use of hijab in Lagos State public primary and secondary schools. The appellate declared in a unanimous judgment on Thursday that the ban was discriminatory against Muslim pupils in the state. It accordingly reinstated the use of hijab in Lagos schools. |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by Caseless: 9:07am On Dec 16, 2017 |
Mynd44:From the beginning, you have been the one citing a religious sect(cele) as your example. I've maintained the law as my guide throughout. So, a guy telling you about an attack on Islam shouldn't be my issue. He saw you from a religious stance having cited "cele" , how Muslims forced people to wear hijab, if schools in enugu decides to enforce same rule against everyone in public schools, etc, these has shown your standpoint and expect the guy to see you from a bias position. This is not my fault. Because those 3 students took it, doesn't mean fridaus should. Have you been able to prove she did not wear the hijab at law school? Be explicit and tell me why a law school rule should be superior to our constitution. There are good Muslims and there are bad ones - so it is with every religion or organization. I have not seen this as an attack on Islam, but I don't want to see Christian define how we practice our religion; they should not be in competition with Muslims. And they feel we are doing something Islamic, they should initiate an Episcopal equivalence. Injustice to one should be seen as injustice everywhere. Not throwing up some religious sentiment. I do not advance religious argument in my discussion, if do that with me, I find an empty argument in you. Let's be logical. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by BetaThings: 4:26pm On Dec 16, 2017 |
princeade86: Christians have appointed themselves the regulator of religious practice Tell me anything Christians want that the Muslims have objected to Christians frown at - Islamic Banking - Wearing of Hijab in public schools - Sukuk Christians claim that Islamic Banking will give rise to agitation for Sango, Amadioha banking etc Which one is your own? Let people practise what they want and be happy? Christians are not ready for democracy. They want to dictate to others Stay in your own lane princeade86:Christian and short sighted arguments So why did you not reject Christmas, Easter Holidays because Amadioha worshippers will ask for holiday Why did you not reject your universities because there will be Egungun University 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by BetaThings: 4:35pm On Dec 16, 2017 |
Mynd44:Although you have saved me from span bots in the past, I must still say I am disappointed Is Firdaus forced? Can you prove it? Let the people forced speak up However you also need to look at the society. People cane their children, don't they? Is that not force too And are you saying Covenant does not force people to attend church service? Mynd44:They should speak up 7th Day Adventist got Gowon in his time to scrap Saturday work by government officials Incidentally Gowon added to the hours worked on Friday Mynd44: The dress code is obnoxious and should be struck down Law School is a right to Nigerians who pass the exam Can JAMB refuse me admission after I pass? Mynd44:No, until the constitution forbids religious freedom, the dress code is unconstitutional 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by BetaThings: 4:41pm On Dec 16, 2017 |
Ezechinwa: Proof? If you bring one against Islam, I will bring 5 against Christians 2 Likes |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by BetaThings: 4:46pm On Dec 16, 2017 |
oyiboeru: Nigerians Christians believe in one man, one wife and also One Nigeria, one religion (Christianity) 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by udatso: 8:24pm On Dec 16, 2017 |
Mynd44:You have just read how the constitution favours her and you still say this |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by udatso: 8:25pm On Dec 16, 2017 |
oyiboeru:I tire oooo. Abeg help me ask am |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by udatso: 8:29pm On Dec 16, 2017 |
olumidazz:so the constitution doesn't matter? |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by udatso: 8:31pm On Dec 16, 2017 |
omokab:Nice question. They keep saying that as if Muslims have opposed any set of people fighting for their right |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by udatso: 8:47pm On Dec 16, 2017 |
Caseless:God will bless you. You have just said it as it is. Couldn't have said it better 1 Like |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by Sokovilla(m): 7:39am On Dec 17, 2017 |
the dis believers during the time of the prophet did all they could to oppose Allah's course but they were defeated 'the dis believers of our time and the hypocrites will face their doom soon. 1 Like |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by Demmzy15(m): 5:21pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
BetaThings:I love this analogy! |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by mikolo80: 7:10pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
seguntijan:so if I form religion that goes about naked then I should be allowed abi also they don't need to take passport photographs since they're exposing themselves. common sense [quote] |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by mikolo80: 7:12pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
Hashimyussufamao:it's called being a professional lawyer. |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by Demmzy15(m): 7:23pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
mikolo80:Go form نه, anybody hold you ni |
Re: Position Of The Law On The Use Of Hijab/Veil In Public Institutions- O.G Chukkol by mikolo80: 7:25pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
Demmzy15:touche |
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