slimdick:

Well, what makes you think a church in Yenogoa has a branch in Aba? I attend a Megachurch in Lagos that has no branch anywhere in Lagos and beyond. So, if I relocate to a place like Edo State, should I then not look forward to where I can enjoy Godly family experience?

Look for church

asuustrike2009:

Am not adding to the scriptures either. The Bible didn't say you should remain in one denomination or that you can't change. The Bible said we should work out our salvation. Salvation is a personal thing

Ure out of context

godofuck231:

Ure out of context

It's you that is out of context by calling someone a prostitute

Omuneizzy6:
Nairalanders i need your help, i got baptised in my former church ''Exceeding Faith Mission'' in Yenagoa LGA of Bayelsa state. but due to relocation i moved to Aba, Abia state. Where i started attending ''The Redeemed Christian Church Of God(RCCG) there i am committed and devoted in services.
One of the pastors asked me if am baptised, i said Yes but that was in my former church. Though i have no certificate to prove it but i know i was baptised on that date. The pastor said for me to become a full member and get trained i need to get baptised under their mansion. But i asked the pastor do we baptise second time? He said not at all but i just need to get baptised to become their full bouyant member and get trained. Please am confuse. Should i go for the baptism or leave...... Please help

Bros you have been baptised, no need for second baptism. The first one has done the job, the second is fruitless, but to fulfil all righteousness based on that church doctrine you can go and do another one if you wish

Apina:

Stop propagating ignorance, there's nothing like "rebaptism".
Note: Baptism must be done using the baptismal formula which is in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit. Anything outside that is total hogwash.

Brother,
I'm not trying to "propagate" anything other than the way I have known churches to function in regard to membership in America. That is not to disregard the original baptism illustrated by Christ Himself. I think you have misunderstood me...sorry about that

PitexyBaba:
Consult Your Bible For Geniue Answer... Thank Me Later. Happy Sunday To U All.

Please, stop telling people to consult Bible. Some don't know how to.. Some consult and use their educational intelligence to analyze, leading dem to deeper troubles

godofuck231:


Maybe you should try dying twice, to be submerged in water has a powerful significance, pls try and visit the basilica in Rome and read about this, the Catholic Church is not just full of fornicating priests, there is more

Brother,
I don't necessarily want to experience "death" at all....but it's gonna happen one way or another as stated in
1 Corinthians 15:54 KJV
So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

I am not promoting Catholicism (nor their method of baptism) in any way, shape or form. I completely understand baptism by submersion and am not belittling or nullifying the powerful act.
I was speaking about backslidden Christians (maybe through having left the church for several years, pregnancy out of wedlock, drugs, alcohol, adultery, fornication etc.,) who FEEL LED by the Holy Spirit to make a public proclamation of a rededication/recommitment to Christ through re-baptism

Omuneizzy6:
Nairalanders i need your help, i got baptised in my former church ''Exceeding Faith Mission'' in Yenagoa LGA of Bayelsa state. but due to relocation i moved to Aba, Abia state. Where i started attending ''The Redeemed Christian Church Of God(RCCG) there i am committed and devoted in services.
One of the pastors asked me if am baptised, i said Yes but that was in my former church. Though i have no certificate to prove it but i know i was baptised on that date. The pastor said for me to become a full member and get trained i need to get baptised under their mansion. But i asked the pastor do we baptise second time? He said not at all but i just need to get baptised to become their full bouyant member and get trained. Please am confuse. Should i go for the baptism or leave...... Please help

Better goan find a way to worship whichver God u believe in. Stay away from businessmen of gods..

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LOL...I'm sorry...but I just had to do that...lol
Just wondering...did you have to say that (cute comment) to me or would it have been easier to just address the OP?
Anyhow, thanks for the compliment my brother

MsNgo40:


Brother,
I'm not trying to "propagate" anything other than the way I have known churches to function in regard to membership in America. That is not to disregard the original baptism illustrated by Christ Himself. I think you have misunderstood me...sorry about that

Thanks for the clarification, I didn't know u were speaking from a personal point of view and not by any means saying what is. But for the sake of posterity, there's no term as re-baptism in Christianity, you are either baptised or u are not.

Omuneizzy6:
Nairalanders i need your help, i got baptised in my former church ''Exceeding Faith Mission'' in Yenagoa LGA of Bayelsa state. but due to relocation i moved to Aba, Abia state. Where i started attending ''The Redeemed Christian Church Of God(RCCG) there i am committed and devoted in services.
One of the pastors asked me if am baptised, i said Yes but that was in my former church. Though i have no certificate to prove it but i know i was baptised on that date. The pastor said for me to become a full member and get trained i need to get baptised under their mansion. But i asked the pastor do we baptise second time? He said not at all but i just need to get baptised to become their full bouyant member and get trained. Please am confuse. Should i go for the baptism or leave...... Please help

I had the same issue when I joined rccg, the rccg pastor said any baptism, even if its by immersion, is not recognized by rccg, he said other church baptism is void in rccg, I simply remained a floor member, because double baptism is unscriptural.

That's one of the errors in rccg I don't like. A big error.

so I advise u to serve your God as a floor member or join another church.

Xbee007:

You sound like a very pained individual. I hope my comment didn't make you cry cos I was here on Friday and numerous unprovoked Christian's comment on Muslim's thread were unbefitting of human with empathy. I am just surprised Muslims were not returning the favor.

Pained?
For what?
For telling you your problem?
I'm not even into religious/less religious, so i wonder where my bitterness would be coming from.
Christians does bash themselves.
They condemns ignominious and inglorious acts done in their religion and even by their pastors.
But that can't happen in your religion because of your extreme bitterness.
Christian section is open for everyone and anyone can go there, mock, insult, bash them. At the end everyone would laugh off and move on.
Because you can't take all those shiiits from others, reason why your section is closed for you guys only.


I can't feel pained cause I'm not your rival.
Just telling you your problem which you need to know.

Blessograo:

I'm a Christian but please don't start a religious war with Muslims, better still keep peace and everything balanced and let's all respect our different religions, we don't need to trash each other, the government have put enough enemity btwn us we don't need to damage ourselves further. Love!

I'm not religious.
So I don't know what you meant by religious war.

MsNgo40:


Brother,
I don't necessarily want to experience "death" at all....but it's gonna happen one way or another as stated in
1 Corinthians 15:54 KJV
So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

I am not promoting Catholicism (nor their method of baptism) in any way, shape or form. I completely understand baptism by submersion and am not belittling or nullifying the powerful act.
I was speaking about backslidden Christians (maybe through having left the church for several years, pregnancy out of wedlock, drugs, alcohol, adultery, fornication etc.,) who FEEL LED by the Holy Spirit to make a public proclamation of a rededication/recommitment to Christ through re-baptism

I was literally speaking,you can't become born again twice, you only beg for forgiveness, not become born again like it's a thing of fantasy, " I feel like being born again" time to get baptised, it not like so stated

asuustrike2009:

It's you that is out of context by calling someone a prostitute

OK my apologies "a religious prostitute" I meant

godofuck231:


OK my apologies "a religious prostitute" I meant

We are saying the same thing "religious prostitute". He has the liberty to attend or move from one church to another. If am to analysize this issue of religious prostitution, you and I might fall guilty.

godofuck231:


I was literally speaking,you can't become born again twice, you only beg for forgiveness, not become born again like it's a thing of fantasy, " I feel like being born again" time to get baptised, it not like so stated

I think I understand what u are trying to say. That's why I was saying that in some particular cases....a person may feel the need to recommit his/her life to Christ. This can become a very sticky topic...but I was saying that I don't think God would be angry if a person decided to publicly do it again...that's all. Of course, one wouldn't want to make a mockery out of the baptismal act. But the honest truth is....as Christians strive for perfection, we have times where we fall...sometimes very deep falls. Some people are just so appreciative of God's forgiveness, grace and care...during those times of "falling", that they want to make a public display of their gratitude.
I don't know that the word "begging" would be an accurate portrayal of the act of forgiveness. One "asks" for forgiveness and the Lord grants it...
Thanks for clarifying.

Apina:

Thanks for the clarification, I didn't know u were speaking from a personal point of view and not by any means saying what is. But for the sake of posterity, there's no term as re-baptism in Christianity, you are either baptised or u are not.

No problem and ok

herich:


I'm not religious.
So I don't know what you meant by religious war.

Then shush and don't disrespect any religion

MsNgo40:


LOL...I'm sorry...but I just had to do that...lol
Just wondering...did you have to say that (cute comment) to me or would it have been easier to just address the OP?
Anyhow, thanks for the compliment my brother

well your comment was well thought out, n on a more meaningful thread (there's a dearth of those on NL these days), would be so at home, therefore i couldn't help but compliment it. N i am too lazy to write another post to berate d op when i could easily join both into one...have a nice day sista

Blessograo:

Then shush and don't disrespect any religion

Disrespect?
Who is disrespecting your religious problem (intolerance)
I just admonished you guys on the need to tolerate other religion s, and you're already here mentioning war and disrespect.


Disguise yourself here(not my problem)
But people already know your type.

Have a nice day.

MsNgo40:


I think I understand what u are trying to say. That's why I was saying that in some particular cases....a person may feel the need to recommit his/her life to Christ. This can become a very sticky topic...but I was saying that I don't think God would be angry if a person decided to publicly do it again...that's all. Of course, one wouldn't want to make a mockery out of the baptismal act. But the honest truth is....as Christians strive for perfection, we have times where we fall...sometimes very deep falls. Some people are just so appreciative of God's forgiveness, grace and care...during those times of "falling", that they want to make a public display of their gratitude.
I don't know that the word "begging" would be an accurate portrayal of the act of forgiveness. One "asks" for forgiveness and the Lord grants it...
Thanks for clarifying.

Is sorit sorit! Thank kiu

asuustrike2009:

We are saying the same thing "religious prostitute". He has the liberty to attend or move from one church to another. If am to analysize this issue of religious prostitution, you and I might fall guilty.

No go there, in short no fu*k o, na catholic I be since birth

godofuck231:


No go there, in short no fu*k o, na catholic I be since birth

I non get your time

asuustrike2009:

I non get your time

Lol

Omuneizzy6:
Please am confuse. Should i go for the baptism or leave...... Please help

If you like get water baptized at every church you pass, none of that will cause you to become born-again, not until you heed the Gospels of Jesus Christ Himself.

Man was born flesh and blood from his mother's womb. Jesus Christ told you this in His Gospel, affirming what God said in the beginning when He pointed out that man was made from the clay of this earth, not spirit - Genesis 2 vs 6 - 7. So in order to become a citizen of the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom where only those who are born of spirit can gain access, a first step in becoming a Son of God and eventually a partaker in the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God, one must first be born-again. And as broken down carefully in His Gospel by Jesus Christ, one must first be born-again before one can then become a citizen of the Kingdom of God.

1 There was a man named Nicodemus, one of the Pharisees. He was an important Jewish leader.
2 One night he came to Jesus and said, “Teacher, we know that you are a teacher sent from God. No one can do these miraculous signs that you do unless they have God’s help.”
3 Jesus answered, “I assure you, everyone must be born again. Anyone who is not born again cannot be in God’s kingdom.”
4 Nicodemus said, “How can a man who is already old be born again? Can he go back into his mother’s womb and be born a second time?”
5 Jesus answered, “Believe me when I say that everyone must be born from water and the Spirit. Anyone who is not born from water and the Spirit cannot enter God’s kingdom.
6 The only life people get from their human parents is physical. But the new life that the Spirit gives a person is spiritual.
7 Don’t be surprised that I told you, ‘You must be born again.’
8 The wind blows wherever it wants to. You hear it, but you don’t know where it is coming from or where it is going. It is the same with everyone who is born from the Spirit.” - John 3 vs 5 - 8

○ Born of Water — Is an acknowledgment of the message spread by John the Baptist whose call for repentance as found in Matthew 3 vs 2 Jesus Christ was reiterated beginning at the start of His own Kingdom mission, "Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand" found in Matthew 4 vs 7 & Mark 1 vs 15.

As John explained in his conversation with the Pharisees, to be born of water — baptized — there is a need for repentance, a visible transition from following God's Old Law of Moses to following God's New agreement of peace —Jesus Christ. In verse 8 of the passage below, John instructs the Pharisees to change their hearts and show by the way that they live that they have in fact changed from following the Old Way to following the New way — Jesus Christ.

7 Many Pharisees and Sadducees came to where John was baptizing people. When John saw them, he said, “You are all snakes! Who warned you to run from God’s judgment that is coming?
8 Change your hearts! And show by the way you live that you have changed.
9 I know what you are thinking. You want to say, ‘but Abraham is our father!’ That means nothing. I tell you, God could make children for Abraham from these rocks.
10 The ax is now ready to cut down the trees. Every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
[b]11 “I baptize you with water to show that you have changed your hearts and lives. But there is someone coming later who is able to do more than I can. I am not good enough to be the slave who takes off his sandals. - Matthew 3 vs 7 - 11

Suffice to say, the kind of repentance God desires is not simply an abandoning of one's sinful ways but more importantly, an abandoning of the hold the Old Law had on one to embrace instead a full commitment to following and abiding by the direct teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ alone. Once one is baptized in water after this, one is said to have concluded the work of obedience necessary for one to be Born of water.
○ Born of Spirit(Eternal Life) - In John 3 vs 16, Jesus Christ elucidated that all those who believe in Him will receive Eternal Life in place of the condemnation of Death which they formerly lived under as a result of God's judgment against sinners of Old - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. The Spirit of Eternal life, the spirit those who are in fact born again are born of, as described by Jesus Christ in the context of John 3 vs 1 - 21 is not a passive spirit. Rather, He is an uncontrollable invasion of those of the individual who is born of Him — a possession so to speak. This can be vividly seen in what Jesus Christ said of those who are born of the Spirit of Life in John 3 vs 5 - 8

7 A woman from Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give me a drink.”
8 (For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.)
9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “How is it that you, a Jew, ask for a drink from me, a woman of Samaria?” (For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.)
10 Jesus answered, “You don’t know what God can give you. And you don’t know who I am, the one who asked you for a drink. If you knew, you would have asked me, and I would have given you living water.”
11 The woman said, “Sir, where will you get that living water? The well is very deep, and you have nothing to get water with.
12 Are you greater than our ancestor Jacob? He is the one who gave us this well. He drank from it himself, and his sons and all his animals drank from it too.”
13 Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again.
14 But anyone who drinks the water I give will never be thirsty again. The water I give people will be like a spring flowing inside them. It will bring them eternal life.”
15 The woman said to Jesus, “Sir, give me this water. Then I will never be thirsty again and won’t have to come back here to get more water.” - John 4 vs 7 - 15

In the above passage, Jesus Christ equally describes the Spirit of Eternal life as living water on the inside of those who drink from Him again implying that one does not get a passive spirit but a conscious spirit wielding power inside of them when born of Spirit.

The born-again process is clearly not of the mind but of acts of obedience and also of invasion by the controlling power of the Spirit of Eternal Life who then guides one into the Kingdom of God where eventually — if one continues in submission and obedience — one is able to become a son of God, moving on to attain righteous by seeking first the Kingdom of God(holiness) and God's righteousness as commanded by Jesus Christ. However, none of this will be possible if one is not first born-again. So, ask yourself today, are you born-again? Can you confirm today that the Spirit of Eternal life has invaded your person and is actively working in you pushing you in whichever direction He chooses? or are you pretending to be born again in order to fit into the religious circles of men?