jeruzi:
Wow! So antiIsrael protester can show us another location in the world for Israel.

Ranchhoddas:
Please why do Nigerian Christians support Israel even when they do evil?

Why do you think God supports them?

jeruzi:
Well, in the world everything has become relative. So I ask, what do you call evil? That a group of people are trying hard to settle down in their own land, and they are being resisted. Being resisted, they fight back; is that evil? Please, lets leave religion now, if they do not own that land nor settle there, where on earth then would they settle. this is not because I am a Christian. I just want to know.

Ranchhoddas:
It's not their land.
At least no more their land than that of the Palestinians.

If I came to your house and told you to leave because my ancestors lived there centuries ago would you leave?

A two-state state solution has been proposed for long and Israel has opposed it at every turn.
If you want peace you have to make sacrifices.
Why has Israel refused that?

Once again it's not their land.

jeruzi:
I get your view now. You agree it's their land, but because of other occupat that came in due to the time laps, they should settle for the two state policy. Some claim that the land is altogether not theirs.

Ranchhoddas:
It is not their land.

jeruzi:
Hmmm. I thought you mentioned earlier that their ancestors dwelt there. How is it no longer their land. If you get to know that your dad had ten hectares of land in your village, and it is being occupied by someone else, won't you fight for it?

Ranchhoddas:
Not my dad.
My ancestors thousands of years ago.

No I won't.

jeruzi:
I will assume that you won't fight for it just like you said. It's getting clearer. So they should lose the land because it's been a long time since their ancestors dwelt their. Hope you know their is a fight also in Asia for an Island that they are both (Japan, Skorea, ) laying claim to; this is all because of ancient histories. Being is not a reason to let go. Where should the large population if Israel live if they let go?

jeruzi:
I will assume that you won't fight for it just like you said. It's getting clearer. So they should lose the land because it's been a long time since their ancestors dwelt their. Hope you know their is a fight also in Asia for an Island that they are both (Japan, Skorea, ) laying claim to; this is all because of ancient histories. Being is not a reason to let go. Where should the large population if Israel live if they let go?

Ranchhoddas:
Where were they living all these years?

Empiree:
Remember Uganda was also suggested for them to live before UN, formerly the league of nations and the british decided Palastine land for them. If they had succeded given them Uganda, what do you think Ugandans would be doing by now?.

And you said to leave religion aside, do you know that Israel keeps using religion to back up their point?. As someone said earlier, where were they living before they moved to middle east?.

jeruzi:
The region propose was not good enough for settler from Europe, not for the weather but for the inhabitant of that land and the wild animal. It was kenya and they had to reject it. That religous book is the major history book they have.So they are only follow their history and tracing back their root. You asked about where they had lived: study "pogrom" and you will what bedeviled them everwhere they had lived. If you face persecution everywhere and you know your father's hous, won't return?

Empiree:
As someone said earlier, where were they living before they moved to middle east?.

jeruzi:
That's is a good question. Looking at history, you would see for yourself that; the Jew had been persecuted everywhere they lived because they had no place of their own. Go through the history and see. Is that what you want them to repeat when they know their root?

drakeli:
Go back and do your history homework. Who were living in Jerusalem, the city of David before Arab moved in , now calling themselves Palestinians.

Back to your question. Jews were driven out of Jerusalem for revolting against the Romans. They sought refuge in Europe and North African. After the fall of Roman Empire, Jerusalem fell in the hand of Muslims led by Saladin and was occupied by Arabs. Note that throughout these time, there was nothing like Palestinians. They were Arabs from Arab countries. The name Palestinian is a political creation by Arabs to fight the Jews in their ancestral land. When David, Solomon, Josiah, Saul were king in Jerusalem, where were the Arabs? In fact then, there was no Islam.

Jews have taken back what belonged to them thousands of years before Islam back. If the Arabs calling themselves political Palestinians can’t go back to the country of origin of their ancestors settlers, they should live in peace with the Jews.

drakeli:


Even qoran acknowledge it that Jerusalem is the land of Jews. Abi Quran is a liar ni?

Ranchhoddas:
So the solution to persecution is persecution of others right?
The Palestinians that they want to displace are not humans right?

jeruzi:
the intention, and the assumptions are different. The Jews only want to settle back in their original settlement in peace. What you now call persecution is just a resistance against the aggression of the arabs. The so called Arabs never wanted Israel on that land, it was their inbility to jointly flush them out that gave room to their acceptance to acknowledge "the existence of the state of Israel" and then the two state solution. So what you call today aggression, persecution, or evil, is only a reaction to the force applied by the arabs.

jeruzi:
the intention, and the assumptions are different. The Jews only want to settle back in their original settlement in peace. What you now call persecution is just a resistance against the aggression of the arabs. The so called Arabs never wanted Israel on that land, it was their inbility to jointly flush them out that gave room to their acceptance to acknowledge "the existence of the state of Israel" and then the two state solution. So what you call today aggression, persecution, or evil, is only a reaction to the force applied by the arabs. Also, Israel is willing to allow them settle among them in peace.

Empiree:
Can you tell us how the Holy Land was theirs from the beginning?

Ranchhoddas:
The only reason the Arabs have been unable to "flush" Israel out is Western interference.
The original aggressors were the invading Israelis.
What you call Arab aggression was a reaction to the original invasion. They could have settled in peace elsewhere. If they wanted part of that land, the least they could have done was to accede to the conditions and demands of their would-be hosts.

Ranchhoddas:
The only reason the Arabs have been unable to "flush" Israel out is Western interference.
The original aggressors were the invading Israelis.
What you call Arab aggression was a reaction to the original invasion. They could have settled in peace elsewhere. If they wanted part of that land, the least they could have done was to accede to the conditions and demands of their would-be hosts.

Ranchhoddas:
The only reason the Arabs have been unable to "flush" Israel out is Western interference.
The original aggressors were the invading Israelis.
What you call Arab aggression was a reaction to the original invasion. They could have settled in peace elsewhere. If they wanted part of that land, the least they could have done was to accede to the conditions and demands of their would-be hosts.

jeruzi:
If you look at history, there were attempts to settle some place else,but the hosts where hostile at some point, so they had to return to THEIR OWN land, where history tells the world: as many as would care to listen, that they "live", both in th Holy Bible, and the quran

jeruzi:
It is a well know truth written in the Holy Bible which holds so much of Israel's history, and the quran also has it written in it that it was given to them by God. It is not new of men to alway want to connect back to their origin. They possessed it by war, conquering the original inhabitant. Is it now bad for them to return and settle in peace?

Ranchhoddas:
So forceful occupation and displacement of thousands of people, women and children among them is the way to go about it right.

Raintaker:
Lol, so much ignorant Christaains on this thread, imagine someone saying there was nothing like Palestine during David's or whoever's reign.
So you didn't know that the Philistine mentioned in whatever religion book you guys use is the Palestine of today?
Just a change of pronunciation over so many years.



One other guy said, their ancestors got the land by fighting off the original inhabitants and killing them, so that makes it their land.

So when the offspring of the initial inhabitants reclaimed their land and re-established their, they've done something wrong right?
But when it comes to the Israelis, you lot claim they are back to reclaim their land hence their present day aggression.



It's really pitiable how you lots reason, bunch if 2-faced hypocritical Christians.