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Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 8:03pm On Jan 08
​Referring to "Allahu" as "Olohun" Is not Allowed.​
Shaikh Muhammad ibn Saaleh al-`Uthaymeen ﺭﺣﻤﻪ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ in “ Sharh Lum`atul-`Itiqaad” said:
“The Names of Allaah are not affirmed by the intellect - they can only be affirmed by Revelation. The Names of Allaah are based upon Revelation and as such, their affirmation is dependent upon what is reported in the revealed texts concerning them. Therefore, nothing can be added to them nor subtracted. This is because the intellect is not able to itself ascertain which names Allaah is most deserving of. So it is obligatory to depend upon the revealed texts for determining that. Also, naming Allaah with that which He did not name Himself or rejecting what He did name Himself with, is a crime against Him and a perpetration of His right. Thus, abiding by the proper etiquettes with regard to that is obligatory.”
--end of quote
Shaikh Muhammad ibn Saaleh al-`Uthaymeen ﺭﺣﻤﻪ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ further said in “Al Qawaa'idul-Muthlaa”:
Allaah's Names are tawqeefiyyah (meaning a kind of knowledge that is restricted to textual evidence); there is no place for intellectual free-thinking regarding them. Based upon this, we must suffice ourselves with what is found in the Book and the Sunnah, without adding or taking anything away. This is because the intellect will not be able to grasp the understanding of Allaah's Names that He rightfully deserves, so then we must suffice ourselves with textual evidences only.
This is due to Allaah's statement:
﴿ﻭَﻻَ ﺗَﻘْﻒُ ﻣَﺎ ﻟَﻴْﺲَ ﻟَﻚَ ﺑِﻪِ ﻋِﻠْﻢٌ ﺇِﻥَّ ﺍﻟﺴَّﻤْﻊَ ﻭَﺍﻟْﺒَﺼَﺮَ ﻭَﺍﻟْﻔُﺆَﺍﺩَ ﻛُﻞُّ ﺃُﻭﻟـﺌِﻚَ ﻛَﺎﻥَ ﻋَﻨْﻪُ ﻣَﺴْﺆُﻭﻻً ﴾
{And follow not (O man, i.e., say not or do not or witness not) that of which you have no knowledge. Verily, the hearing, and the sight, and the heart of each of those ones will be questioned (by Allaah)}
[Surah al-Israa’ (17): 36]
And He ﺗﻌﺎﻟﻰ also has said:
﴿ﻗُﻞْ ﺇِﻧَّﻤَﺎ ﺣَﺮَّﻡَ ﺭَﺑِّﻲَ ﺍﻟْﻔَﻮَﺣِﺶَ ﻣَﺎ ﻇَﻬَﺮَ ﻣِﻨْﻬَﺎ ﻭَﻣَﺎ ﺑَﻄَﻦَ ﻭَﺍﻹِﺛْﻢَ ﻭَﺍﻟْﺒَﻐْﻰَ ﺑِﻐَﻴْﺮِ ﺍﻟْﺤَﻖِّ ﻭَﺃَﻥ ﺗُﺸْﺮِﻛُﻮﺍْ ﺑِﺎﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﻣَﺎ ﻟَﻢْ ﻳُﻨَﺰِّﻝْ ﺑِﻪِ ﺳُﻠْﻄَـﻨﺎً ﻭَﺃَﻥ ﺗَﻘُﻮﻟُﻮﺍْ ﻋَﻠَﻰ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﻣَﺎ ﻻَ ﺗَﻌْﻠَﻤُﻮﻥَ ﴾
{Say (O Muhammad ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ ): “(But) the things that my Lord has indeed forbidden are Al-Fawaahish (great evil sins and every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse) whether committed openly or secretly, sins (of all kinds), unrighteous oppression, joining partners (in worship) with Allaah for which He has given no authority, and saying things about Allaah of which you have no knowledge .”}
[Surah al-A`raaf (7): 33]
Furthermore, to ascribe a name to Allaah the Exalted that He did not ascribe to His own Self, or to deny something He has named Himself, would be a serious crime against Him. So one must behave in the appropriate manner in this affair and stick to what is found in established textual evidences only.
--end of quote
Shaikh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah ﺭﺣﻤﻪ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ in “ Majmoo` al-Fataawa” (5/26) said:
“The Sifaat (Attributes) of Allaah - the Mighty and Majestic - are tawqeefiyyah
(i.e. only to be spoken of in accordance with a text). Thus, nothing is affirmed for Allaah, except that which Allaah affirmed for Himself, or was affirmed for Him by His Messenger ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ . Likewise, nothing is denied for Allaah - the Mighty and Majestic - except that which He denied for Himself, or was denied for Him by His Messenger ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ . This is because no one knows better about Allaah, than Allaah – the Most High Himself, and there is no one of the creation who knows better about the Creator than Allaah’s Messenger ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ .”
--end of quote
Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Empiree: 9:18pm On Jan 08
What's the problem here?.

How about non-Arabic speaking people?.

There is no doubt that Allah is proper Name of the Creator,

But there is nothing wrong to call Him by local Names known to the people,

For as long as The Names mean Creator of Heavens and earth.

There is absolutely noting wrong for Yoruba speaking folks invoking allah by Olohun.

Olohun is nothing but Creator of The WHole Universe.


Allah said in Surah Isra 110


Yusuf Ali

Say: "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between."


Mohsin Khan

Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Invoke Allah or invoke the Most Beneficent (Allah), by whatever name you invoke Him (it is the same), for to Him belong the Best Names. And offer your Salat (prayer) neither aloud nor in a low voice, but follow a way between.


Sahih International

Say, "Call upon Allah or call upon the Most Merciful. Whichever [name] you call - to Him belong the best names." And do not recite [too] loudly in your prayer or [too] quietly but seek between that an [intermediate] way.



Sura 7:180


Mohsin Khan


And (all) the Most Beautiful Names belong to Allah, so call on Him by them, and leave the company of those who belie or deny (or utter impious speech against) His Names. They will be required for what they used to do.


So these Shuyukh you mentioned are Arabic speaking. It is easy for them to say this if indeed the fatwa attributed to them was fact.

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 10:49pm On Jan 08
Empiree:
What's the problem here?.

How about non-Arabic speaking people?.

There is no doubt that Allah is proper Name of the Creator,

But there is nothing wrong to call Him by local Names known to the people,

For as long as The Names mean Creator of Heavens and earth.

There is absolutely noting wrong for Yoruba speaking folks invoking allah by Olohun.

Olohun is nothing but Creator of The WHole Universe.


Allah said in Surah Isra 110


Yusuf Ali

Say: "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between."


Mohsin Khan

Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Invoke Allah or invoke the Most Beneficent (Allah), by whatever name you invoke Him (it is the same), for to Him belong the Best Names. And offer your Salat (prayer) neither aloud nor in a low voice, but follow a way between.


Sahih International

Say, "Call upon Allah or call upon the Most Merciful. Whichever [name] you call - to Him belong the best names." And do not recite [too] loudly in your prayer or [too] quietly but seek between that an [intermediate] way.



Sura 7:180


Mohsin Khan


And (all) the Most Beautiful Names belong to Allah, so call on Him by them, and leave the company of those who belie or deny (or utter impious speech against) His Names. They will be required for what they used to do.


So these Shuyukh you mentioned are Arabic speaking. It is easy for them to say this if indeed the fatwa attributed to them was fact.









Your answer is in the write-up.. Read it again
Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Empiree: 11:38pm On Jan 08
Sura Rum 22

"And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variations in your languages and your colours: verily in that are Signs for those who know."



All these languages have their word for Creator so whats the big deal?

The sheikh doesn't speak language other than Arabic. Hence, it is easy for him to say what he said. There is nothing wrong calling allah by Olohun. You are Yoruba man. Yoruba is word for Creator.

Don't start telling people not to say "olohun"

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 12:01am On Jan 09
Empiree:
Sura Rum 22

"And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variations in your languages and your colours: verily in that are Signs for those who know."



All these languages have their word for Creator so whats the big deal?

The sheikh doesn't speak language other than Arabic. Hence, it is easy for him to say what he said. There is nothing wrong calling allah by Olohun. You are Yoruba man. Yoruba is word for Creator.

Don't start telling people not to say "olohun"

Bro.. It's not about language.. Read the post again
Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Empiree: 12:06am On Jan 09
ShaheedBinAliyu:


Bro.. It's not about language.. Read the post again
you are wasting your time on this. If it is not about language, why are you condemning the use of "Olohun"?

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 12:10am On Jan 09
Empiree:
you are wasting your time on this. If it is not about language, why are you condemning the use of "Olohun"?


The name of prophets, ALLAH's name (s) , histories told.. Everything is ibadah.. We must not alter it. .
Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Empiree: 12:11am On Jan 09
ShaheedBinAliyu:



The name of prophets, ALLAH's name (s) , histories told.. Everything is ibadah.. We must not alter it. .
keep wasting ur time over irrelevancy

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 12:14am On Jan 09
Empiree:
keep wasting ur time over irrelevancy

If you do understand aqeedah or you are practicing Islam.. You would understand
Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Raintaker(m): 6:54am On Jan 09
ShaheedBinAliyu:


If you do understand aqeedah or you are practicing Islam.. You would understand
Saheed bn Aliyu do not be confused and do not be among those who restrict Allah's worship to the Arabs.
Allah is the lord of the world and he owns everything.

Check out this quranic verse
Alhamdulilahi Robil Alamin
Maliki Yaomi Deen.

English:Glory be to Allah the Lord of the world , the owner of the day of Judgement.
Look at those 3 words referring to Allah in the above.
The ayahs above are both in suratul Fatiah.

Back to linguistics:Olohun in Yoruba means the owner of everything, so what am I saying in essence?
Olohun encompasses the meaning of rabbil Alamin and Maliki Yaomi din, refer to the English translation above.
So, your proposition holds no water, it is utterly baseless.
Do not be confused and always seek explanations whenever you are confused.
Allah is not an Arab God alone, Allah is the lord of the worldsand he owns everything.
The Yorubas have always believed in one true God in heaven who created all things.

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 7:04am On Jan 09
Raintaker:
Saheed bn Aliyu do not be confused and do not be among those who restrict Allah's worship to the Arabs.
Allah is the lord of the world and he owns everything.

Check out this quranic verse
Alhamdulilahi Robil Alamin
Maliki Yaomi Deen.

English:Glory be to Allah the Lord of the world , the owner of the day of Judgement.
Look at those 3 words referring to Allah in the above.
The ayahs above are both in suratul Fatiah.

Back to linguistics:Olohun in Yoruba means the owner of everything, so what am I saying in essence?
Olohun encompasses the meaning of rabbil Alamin and Maliki Yaomi din, refer to the English translation above.
So, your proposition holds no water, it is utterly baseless.
Do not be confused and always seek explanations whenever you are confused.
Allah is not an Arab God alone, Allah is the lord of the worldsand he owns everything.
The Yorubas have always believed in one true God in heaven who created all things.

ALLAH said HIS name is ALLAH.. He also told us more of HIS name. . Calling HIM by the name HE doesn't told us HE answers to IS same thing as Tashreey.

Also same thing applies to the name of prophets..


Call HIM the name HE answers to.. Is that so hard to do? Call HIM ALLAH.. Is that so bad to say?


Why would you leave something that is clear for something that is wrong.. ...
Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Rashduct4luv(m): 7:50am On Jan 10
I am sick and tired of this shaheed Abi kini. Can't you even use your medulla oblongata for once?
.
The Arabic Bible uses same "Allah" as we use for their God, is it the same Allah that Muslims worship?
.
Ọlọhun is not the name of a deity.
Can you explain the meaning of Allah? Not in Yoruba or English o! Arabic cos I don't want you to say Ọlọhun again.
.
I was even thinking you will say those Sheikhs said using Ọlọhun is haram.
I can't even believe you can quote Salafs, are these Salafs too on your "kullu bidi'atin Kufr" Manhaj? Or you are just picking whatever goes with you from them? Later you can call them Kaafir.
.
Calling something Haram or Halal is not your Field. Please go back to Madrasah or go to work! Enough with this Jabatawisky theory!

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Fundamentalist: 7:05am On Jan 12
ShaheedBinAliyu:
​Referring to "Allahu" as "Olohun" Is not Allowed.​
Shaikh Muhammad ibn Saaleh al-`Uthaymeen ﺭﺣﻤﻪ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ in “ Sharh Lum`atul-`Itiqaad” said:
“The Names of Allaah are not affirmed by the intellect - they can only be affirmed by Revelation. The Names of Allaah are based upon Revelation and as such, their affirmation is dependent upon what is reported in the revealed texts concerning them. Therefore, nothing can be added to them nor subtracted. This is because the intellect is not able to itself ascertain which names Allaah is most deserving of. So it is obligatory to depend upon the revealed texts for determining that. Also, naming Allaah with that which He did not name Himself or rejecting what He did name Himself with, is a crime against Him and a perpetration of His right. Thus, abiding by the proper etiquettes with regard to that is obligatory.”
--end of quote
Shaikh Muhammad ibn Saaleh al-`Uthaymeen ﺭﺣﻤﻪ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ further said in “Al Qawaa'idul-Muthlaa”:
Allaah's Names are tawqeefiyyah (meaning a kind of knowledge that is restricted to textual evidence); there is no place for intellectual free-thinking regarding them. Based upon this, we must suffice ourselves with what is found in the Book and the Sunnah, without adding or taking anything away. This is because the intellect will not be able to grasp the understanding of Allaah's Names that He rightfully deserves, so then we must suffice ourselves with textual evidences only.
This is due to Allaah's statement:
﴿ﻭَﻻَ ﺗَﻘْﻒُ ﻣَﺎ ﻟَﻴْﺲَ ﻟَﻚَ ﺑِﻪِ ﻋِﻠْﻢٌ ﺇِﻥَّ ﺍﻟﺴَّﻤْﻊَ ﻭَﺍﻟْﺒَﺼَﺮَ ﻭَﺍﻟْﻔُﺆَﺍﺩَ ﻛُﻞُّ ﺃُﻭﻟـﺌِﻚَ ﻛَﺎﻥَ ﻋَﻨْﻪُ ﻣَﺴْﺆُﻭﻻً ﴾
{And follow not (O man, i.e., say not or do not or witness not) that of which you have no knowledge. Verily, the hearing, and the sight, and the heart of each of those ones will be questioned (by Allaah)}
[Surah al-Israa’ (17): 36]
And He ﺗﻌﺎﻟﻰ also has said:
﴿ﻗُﻞْ ﺇِﻧَّﻤَﺎ ﺣَﺮَّﻡَ ﺭَﺑِّﻲَ ﺍﻟْﻔَﻮَﺣِﺶَ ﻣَﺎ ﻇَﻬَﺮَ ﻣِﻨْﻬَﺎ ﻭَﻣَﺎ ﺑَﻄَﻦَ ﻭَﺍﻹِﺛْﻢَ ﻭَﺍﻟْﺒَﻐْﻰَ ﺑِﻐَﻴْﺮِ ﺍﻟْﺤَﻖِّ ﻭَﺃَﻥ ﺗُﺸْﺮِﻛُﻮﺍْ ﺑِﺎﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﻣَﺎ ﻟَﻢْ ﻳُﻨَﺰِّﻝْ ﺑِﻪِ ﺳُﻠْﻄَـﻨﺎً ﻭَﺃَﻥ ﺗَﻘُﻮﻟُﻮﺍْ ﻋَﻠَﻰ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﻣَﺎ ﻻَ ﺗَﻌْﻠَﻤُﻮﻥَ ﴾
{Say (O Muhammad ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ ): “(But) the things that my Lord has indeed forbidden are Al-Fawaahish (great evil sins and every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse) whether committed openly or secretly, sins (of all kinds), unrighteous oppression, joining partners (in worship) with Allaah for which He has given no authority, and saying things about Allaah of which you have no knowledge .”}
[Surah al-A`raaf (7): 33]
Furthermore, to ascribe a name to Allaah the Exalted that He did not ascribe to His own Self, or to deny something He has named Himself, would be a serious crime against Him. So one must behave in the appropriate manner in this affair and stick to what is found in established textual evidences only.
--end of quote
Shaikh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah ﺭﺣﻤﻪ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ in “ Majmoo` al-Fataawa” (5/26) said:
“The Sifaat (Attributes) of Allaah - the Mighty and Majestic - are tawqeefiyyah
(i.e. only to be spoken of in accordance with a text). Thus, nothing is affirmed for Allaah, except that which Allaah affirmed for Himself, or was affirmed for Him by His Messenger ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ . Likewise, nothing is denied for Allaah - the Mighty and Majestic - except that which He denied for Himself, or was denied for Him by His Messenger ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ . This is because no one knows better about Allaah, than Allaah – the Most High Himself, and there is no one of the creation who knows better about the Creator than Allaah’s Messenger ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ .”
--end of quote

This is an evidence of ignorance by you and jabata . there is no doubt that you quoted the shaykh out of context.

The shaykh was referring to Tawqifiyyah in Tawheed Al asma wasiffat .

This is ignorance, confirm ignorance ,

Kai complete ignorance

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by kombats: 9:48am On Jan 12
As Muslims, this is one of the greatest challenges we face, THE INTERPRETATION AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE QUR'ANIC VERSES OR THE QUR'AN AS A WHOLE. People sometimes explain the Qur'an/Islamic teachings the way they understand it. Sometimes proper research is needed to understand the Qur'an as Islam strongly encourages the search for knowledge.
The OP interpretation and quotes doesn't necessarily means he's right/wrong but when you try to interprets or translates the Qur'an word for word for proper understanding you have to interpret ALLAH, AR RAHMAN, AR RAHIM, etc.
Remember, All action will be judge according to intentions.
ALLAH KNOWS BEST.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Candlelight07(m): 9:49am On Jan 12
i'm beginning to wonder if Islam is what is being preached here or Arabic, Ko ye mi mor o...cus this extremism is getting beyond

Allahul Musta'an

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Toks2008(m): 9:50am On Jan 12
ShaheedBinAliyu:


If you do understand aqeedah or you are practicing Islam.. You would understand

What is the hype? Allaah is GODs name in one language and Jehovah is also the name of same Allaah in another language.

Please let's discuss something else.

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Toks2008(m): 9:52am On Jan 12
Candlelight07:
i'm beginning to wonder if Islam is what is being preached here or Arabic, Ko ye mi mor o...cus this extremism is getting beyond

Allahul Musta'an

O su emi naa....Anyways just check my signature to read more on this.

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by vroy(m): 9:54am On Jan 12
ShaheedBinAliyu:

ALLAH said HIS name is ALLAH.. He also told us more of HIS name. . Calling HIM by the name HE doesn't told us HE answers to IS same thing as Tashreey.

Also same thing applies to the name of prophets..


Call HIM the name HE answers to.. Is that so hard to do? Call HIM ALLAH.. Is that so bad to say?


Why would you leave something that is clear for something that is wrong.. ...
olohun means owner of everything then who is Allah is he not owner of everything?
please dont use ur qola shykh to coz commotion

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by vroy(m): 9:55am On Jan 12
Toks2008:


O su emi naa....Anyways just check my signature to read more on this.
That how they behave all they know is sheikh say this sheikh say that

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by aksule(m): 10:11am On Jan 12
If care is not taken, the rules governing Islam as a religion and as being interpreted by the scholars may eventually found us asking whether other people not Muslims were not created by Allah. Gradually Arabic language of Arabs is made superior to your own language even to address your creator.

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Demmzy15(m): 10:13am On Jan 12
Mods shouldn't have pushed this guy's thread to frontpage

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by personal59(m): 10:35am On Jan 12
Demmzy15:
Mods shouldn't have pushed this guy's thread to frontpage


am still saying it Seun needs to change the Islam page supermods

same way he push a highly controversial post out last week

supermod please what's ur intention?

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:54am On Jan 12
Demmzy15:
Mods shouldn't have pushed this guy's thread to frontpage
.
Exactly, Sissie should beware of this OP.

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by sino(m): 10:55am On Jan 12
Demmzy15:
Mods shouldn't have pushed this guy's thread to frontpage

I agree with you, and I also would have thought that he is to be perpetually banned! He grossly misrepresents Islam and Muslims, he is ignorant and doesn't know...

To the topic, the fatwa posted by the op doesn't equate to the understanding presented by the poster, Arabic is a language chosen by Allah (SWT) doesn't restrict the meaning and interpretation of Islam to Arabic! How would we even understand Allah's names and attributes if we do not translate it to our own native language?! Allah (SWT) he the all Knowing and All Hearing, there is not language which is strange to Him, and Allah (SWT) sent messengers to different tribes speaking their native language! Below is an excerpt from a paper titled "One God, Many Names".

"Around 1906, a European anthropologist studied the Shilluk, one of these Nilotic tribes, and once asked a six-year old boy from the tribe who had created him. Without hesitation, the little boy answered, “Dywok (God) created me.” The anthropologist pressed further, asking what Dywok was like and where he came from. With childlike self-assurance, the boy quickly replied that he did not know, but his father surely would. To his astonishment, neither his father nor immediate kin had an answer, but the child kept inquiring until he finally brought the question before his tribal elders. They replied:

"Dywok, we only know that he exists. We know he made the sky that you see above, the stars, all the animals, and even people—both black and white—but who Dywok actually is, no one in Shilluk can say. For no one has seen him. What we know is this: Dywok is there and made everything. Even if you cannot see him, yet he is there…like the breeze that blows. Even if no one can see the breeze, yet it blows. No one has doubts about that."

The micro-religions are filled with telling names of God. “Creator” and “Maker” are virtually universa[/b]l. Native Americans had many names for God. The Cheyenne called him [b]“Creator of the universe” and “Lord of the entire heaven and earth.” The Californian Maidu called him “Ruler of the world.” The Fox called him “the Guide” and “the Good Spirit.” The Lenape called him “Our Creator,” “You to whom we pray,” “Pure Spirit,” and “You to whom we belong.” Some South African Bushmen and the pygmies of Gabon called him “the Lord of all things.” The Siberian Samoyeds knew him as “the Creator of life.” The Ainu of Japan called him “the Divine Maker of the worlds,” “the Divine Lord of heaven,” “the Inspirer,” and “the Protector.” The Wirdyuri of Australia called him “the Eternal,” and several Aboriginal tribes designated him as “the Great Builder” and “the Great Maker,” although certain Aborigines and African Bushmen held the Creator’s name to be inviolable (taboo) and imparted it only to adult male initiates, while concealing it from women, children, and outsiders.

Ancient civilizations also bear witness to a primordial knowledge of the One. Although the pharaonic Egyptians were highly polytheistic, their language contained abundant names and attributions for the Supreme Being distinct from the personified gods of their pantheon. Ancient Egyptian was replete with seemingly endless synonyms for God (Neter, Sha‘, Khabkhab, ¤ep^ep, Shesa, Sedga, Saj, Nethraj, Nekhbaj, Khetraj, Itnuw, and so forth). There were names for “the Creator” (Kewen, Kun, Ne^ef), “Creation’s God” (Nebirut), and “the Giver of forms” (Nebi). They invoked “the High God” (Neter ‘A), “the Lord” (Nebu), “the Divinity from preexistence” (Nun, ¤a^u), “the Divinely Merciful” (¤etefi), “the Divine Destroyer” (¤etem), “the God of truth and balance” (Sema Ma‘at), “the God of humankind” (Itmu), and “the Lord of all” (Neberdher).....
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God, the Most Beautiful Word in English

The English word “God” is a unique linguistic and theological treasure. It is pre-historic, extending into the Neolithic period and deriving from the proto-Indo- European root gheu (∂), meaning “to invoke” or “to supplicate.” “God” is a past participial construction, meaning “the one who is invoked” or “the one who is called upon.” Like Sanskrit, Persian, Urdu, and most of the European languages, English belongs to the Indo-European family. Our word “God”—proto- Indo-European Ghuto—corresponds linguistically to the Sanskrit past participle hūta (“invoked” or “called upon”), which appears in the Indic Vedas in the divine epithet puruhūta (“much invoked”). Etymologically, “God”—“the one who is invoked in prayer”—is remarkably close in meaning to the Biblical Elo¯ hîm and Alāhā and the Qur’anic Allah, which, as we have seen, convey the sense of “the one who is worshipped.” “God” is also virtually identical in connotation to the Native American Lenape word for the Supreme Being “You to whom we pray.” Supplication and worship are closely interrelated. The Prophet said in a well-known Tradition: “Supplication is the essence of worship.”

The English word “God” in its present form is ancient and pre-Christian, having no hidden or implicit link with Trinitarian theology. Its earliest documented historical use is in the poem Beowulf, the oldest poem in the English language and the earliest European vernacular epic. Beowulf relates pre-Christian events from the early sixth century, a generation or so before the birth of the Prophet Muhammad. Western scholars often find Beowulf paradoxical, because it lacks distinctive Christian references but speaks constantly of God’s grandeur, taking every occasion to praise God and give him thanks. “God” in its present form is the most common word for the Creator in the epic, but the poem also contains scores of other magnificent divine names, which are so deeply embedded in its fabric that they cannot have been interpolated later by medieval monks. Although Beowulf refers to the creation, Adam, Noah, the Flood, the resurrection, judgment, heaven and hell, it contains no references to Mosaic or post-Mosaic Biblical events or to Christ, the crucifixion, Trinitarian dogma, saints, relics, or similar elements that one would expect to find, if there had been any subsequent medieval editing. The poem declares God’s oneness explicitly and extols his wise and merciful governance of the world and its people; it rejects and ridicules paganism as the work of the devil, and the epic’s hero, Beowulf—a brave and mighty but truly humble man of God—engages in constant combat with the diabolical forces of evil and destruction. Not just in its many words for God but in general, the religious vocabulary of Beowulf expresses with exactitude the crux of the spiritual and theological vision which Muslims find so precisely expressed in the Arabic language. Beowulf is a testimony to the English language’s unique richness and should inspire us, as English-speaking Muslims, with a deeper respect for our language and its inherent power to express not only our concept of the divine but the entire repertoire of primordial prophetic teaching."

Source: Dr. Umar Faruq Abd-Allah, One God Many Names, (Nawawi Foundation Paper, 2004)

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Dindondin(m): 11:19am On Jan 12
ShaheedBinAliyu:



Your answer is in the write-up.. Read it again
confused entity. Allah= Olorun, Ubangiji, Chineke, Osanobuwa or anything the name is called in your language.
You folks come here every Friday with different rubbish!

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by BunbleBee: 11:22am On Jan 12
Olorun,OLUWA = LORD

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by vladimiros: 11:29am On Jan 12
ShaheedBinAliyu:

ALLAH said HIS name is ALLAH.. He also told us more of HIS name. . Calling HIM by the name HE doesn't told us HE answers to IS same thing as Tashreey.

Also same thing applies to the name of prophets..


Call HIM the name HE answers to.. Is that so hard to do? Call HIM ALLAH.. Is that so bad to say?


Why would you leave something that is clear for something that is wrong.. ...

people are giving you intelligent replies . you ate still arguing

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by EazyMoh(m): 11:44am On Jan 12
Assalamu Alaikum,
The OP is clearly wrong, although I'd have loved if we corrected him more politely.
I understand his concern in trying to eradicate the danger of corrupting Allah's prestigious name and the names of his prophets and angels like the Christians did, to a point they become unrecognizable.
As noble as the above intention is, Islam doesn't work that way. Before you can prohibit something you are required to bring proof(s) to your claim. The verses you quoted never said we shall not address Allah in other languages.
In the contrary,
1.we have stories even in the Quran where people who did not understand Arabic not to talk of knowing God's name in Arabic called unto Him and He answered.
2. "Allah" the Arabic name has been used by Arabs to refer to the Creator of everything even before the coming of Islam. The prophet only adopted it to convey the message to the immediate Arab listeners. Allah is too Great to be restricted to a single language.
3. Islamic scholars all over the world. For example our Hausa scholars always address Allah as "Ubangiji" and nobody has challenged them with any proof that what they are doing is wrong.
4. What of referring to Allah as "God"? do you think that is also wrong?
Bissalam, and may Allah guide us aright.

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by gaskiyamagana: 11:52am On Jan 12
ShaheedBinAliyu:


Bro.. It's not about language.. Read the post again
This write up is very, very weak to convince or confuse us against calling Almighty Allah, OLORUN in Yoruba.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Referring To ALLAH By Other Names by Specyano(m): 12:05pm On Jan 12
this kind of people are those who make other people think d word is an idol..... the word Allah is an Arabic word, if u decide to give it another name in ur mother tongue and not deviating from d original meaning I see nothing wrong.

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