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Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 9:43am On May 01, 2015
[Quran 2:158] Lo! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (as the pagan custom is). And he who doeth good of his own accord, (for him) lo! Allah is Responsive, Aware.

I won't be surprised if tomorrow the bold is re-translated. Many hadiths have been removed on the internet to protect islam.

Veneration of the Black-stone

The pagan gods of pre-Islamic Arabia were worshiped in the form of rectangular stones or rocks. For example, the pagan deity 'Al-Lat', mentioned in Qur'an 53:19, and believed by pre-Islamic pagans to be one of the daughters of Allah, was once venerated as a cubic rock at Ta'if in Saudi Arabia. An edifice was built over the rock to mark it apart as a house of worship.
Al-lat stood in al-Ta'if, and was more recent than Manah. She was a cubic rock beside which a certain Jew used to prepare his barley porridge (sawiq). Her custody was in the hands of the banu-'Attab ibn-Malik of the Thayif, who had built an edifice over her. [...]She is the idol which God mentioned when He said, "Have you seen Al-lat and al-'Uzza (Surah 53:19)?
Kitab Al-Asnam (The Book of Idols), p 14

This paganism is part of islam today. Allah loves paganism but hates the Jews and Christians

Praying 5 Times Towards Mecca

Pagans prior to Islam would pray five times per day towards Mecca.[4] Muhammad retained for Islam, this pre-Islamic practice, sanctioning it with a story of a night trip to heaven on a mythical beast called al-Buraq. In heaven, the Hadith tells us that Allah demanded 50 prayers per day per Muslim. Upon advice from Moses, Muhammed bargains with Allah and successfully reduces it to five prayers per day.

Zoroastrians are also expected to recite their (kusti) prayers at least five times a day having first cleansed themselves by washing (ablution). So even today, this is not a practice unique to Islam. But, contrary to the Muslims, they pray in the direction of the Sun (at each time of the day) and/or of the Holy Fire (if they are in a Fire Temple).

Allah loves paganism but hates the Jews and Christians

Fasting on the 10th of Muharram

Muhammad's pagan tribe, the Quraish, fasted on the 10th of Muharram. Though optional, Muhammad retained this pagan practice too.
Narrated 'Aisha: 'Ashura' (i.e. the tenth of Muharram) was a day on which the tribe of Quraish used to fast in the pre-lslamic period of ignorance. The Prophet also used to fast on this day. So when he migrated to Medina, he fasted on it and ordered (the Muslims) to fast on it. When the fasting of Ramadan was enjoined, it became optional for the people to fast or not to fast on the day of Ashura.
Sahih Bukhari 5:58:172

Allah loves paganism but hates the Jews and Christians.

Tawaf between Safa and Marwa

Doing Tawaf between Safa and Marwa is an Islamic ritual associated with the pilgrimage to Mecca. Safa and Marwa are two mounts, located at Mecca. This ritual entails Muslims walking frantically between the two mounts, seven times. This was originally a pagan pre-Islamic practice. Muhammad retained it for Islam, sanctioning it with yet another Qur'anic revelation.[7]
Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " (2.158)
Sahih Bukhari 2:26:710

Allah loves paganism but hates the Jew and Christians

Requirement of Ihram

Ihram is a state a Muslim enters into for his pilgrimage to Mecca. It involves a series of procedures like ritual washing, wearing 'Ihram garments', etc. Ihram was originally a pagan requirement for worshipping idols during pre-Islamic times. Muhammad retained this practice for Islam. Muslims assume Ihram to perform the Hajj or Umrah.
Narrated 'Urwa: I asked 'Aisha : ...But in fact, this divine inspiration was revealed concerning the Ansar who used to assume “Ihram” for worshipping an idol called “Manat” which they used to worship at a place called Al-Mushallal before they embraced Islam, and whoever assumed Ihram (for the idol), would consider it not right to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa.
Sahih Bukhari 2:26:706

Allah loves paganism but hates the Jews and Christians

Circumambulation 7 Times

In the Islamic ritual of Tawaf, Muslims go around the Kaaba 7 times. In the Hindu marriage rite of Satphere, the married couple goes around a fire also 7 times. In both of these rituals, religious phrases are repeated during the circumambulation.

Circumambulation is to go in circles around a particular object. In Islam, worshippers and pilgrims do this around the Ka'aba at Mecca. Pre-Islamic pagans used do it to please the moon god Hubal, the 360 deities and Allah (who was merely one among the many deities worshipped there). Muhammad himself used to do it, even before the 360 idols inside the Ka'aba were removed.

Judaism and Christianity (the religions of those who are considered People of the Book) do not practice ritual circumambulation to please God. Two other faiths which do are Hinduism and Buddhism, religions older than Islam and accused by Islam of “paganism” and practicing idolatry.

Allah loves paganism but hates the Jews and Christians
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by Uyi168: 9:46am On May 01, 2015
Bleep allah...bloodsucker
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 10:12am On May 01, 2015
Islam is a religion where the Satan is worshiped as God.

Allah pretended to be the God who sent the bible prophets to deceive mankind.

Satan became an adversary to God because he wanted to overthrow God and be worshiped as God. He has achieved being worshiped as God through islam.

He condemned the bible so as to establish his own, the quran.

Islam is Satan's biggest achievement in the world.

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Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by true2god: 10:25am On May 01, 2015
I am waiting for the muslim brotherhoods in the house to come and clear the air.

Tatar, 9ja4life, abuamam, abuzola, rilwayne or riliwanu and other members of the muslim brotherhood please come and defend your prophet and your religion.
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by AvaterFolytaf(m): 11:17am On May 01, 2015
Firstly,Where are the evidences?
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 11:26am On May 01, 2015
AvaterFolytaf:
Firstly,Where are the evidences?

What are you saying? You saw quranic quotes and many hadiths, yet you are asking for evidences. What evidence are you looking for?
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 11:36am On May 01, 2015
Allah hates the Jews and Christians but loves the way of the pagans.

"Abu Huraira reported Allah's
Messenger (may peace be upon
him) as saying: The last hour
would not come unless the
Muslims will fight against the
Jews and the Muslims would kill
them until the Jews would hide
themselves behind a stone or a
tree and a stone or a tree would
say: Muslim, or the servant of
Allah, there is a Jew behind me;
come and kill him; but the tree
Gharqad would not say, for it is
the tree of the Jews." -- (Sahih Muslim 6985).

[Sahih Bukhari 4.52.177]: "Allah's
Apostle said, The Hour will not
be established until you fight
with the Jews, and the stone
behind which a Jew will be
hiding will say: 'O Muslim!
There is a Jew hiding behind me,
so kill him'."
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by Rilwayne001: 11:48am On May 01, 2015
grin grin dayummmn.
Truthman no doubt is a joker.
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 12:11pm On May 01, 2015
Rilwayne001:
grin grin dayummmn.

Truthman no doubt is a joker.

Smh!
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by mustymatic(m): 2:30pm On May 01, 2015
truthman2012:
Allah hates the Jews and Christians but loves the way of the pagans.

"Abu Huraira reported Allah's
Messenger (may peace be upon
him) as saying: The last hour
would not come unless the
Muslims will fight against the
Jews and the Muslims would kill
them until the Jews would hide
themselves behind a stone or a
tree and a stone or a tree would
say: Muslim, or the servant of
Allah, there is a Jew behind me;
come and kill him; but the tree
Gharqad would not say, for it is
the tree of the Jews." -- (Sahih Muslim 6985).

[Sahih Bukhari 4.52.177]: "Allah's
Apostle said, The Hour will not
be established until you fight
with the Jews, and the stone
behind which a Jew will be
hiding will say: 'O Muslim!
There is a Jew hiding behind me,
so kill him'."

YOU ARE INDEED A JOKER

Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 3:04pm On May 01, 2015
mustymatic:

YOU ARE INDEED A JOKER

You think those very serious evidences pointing to islam as continuation of paganism is a joke?

Even allahh knew and said in the quran that all of those practices have pagan origin and you are joking. It shows you do not love your own soul.

Having been made to know with clear proof that allahh is an arabian idol and satan hid under that name to deceive, will still tell God you didn't know?

Since you and others have nothing to refute the OP, what a reasonable person should do is to reconsider his stand in islam. You have no basis to claim you worship the true God.
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by mustymatic(m): 3:45pm On May 01, 2015
truthman2012:


You think those very serious evidences pointing to islam as continuation of paganism is a joke?

Even allahh knew and said in the quran that all of those practices have pagan origin and you are joking. It shows you do not love your own soul.

Having been made to know with clear proof that allahh is an arabian idol and satan hid under that name to deceive, will still tell God you didn't know?

Since you and others have nothing to refute the OP, what a reasonable person should do is to reconsider his stand in islam. You have no basis to claim you worship the true God.
I have all the basis bro. and JESUS is nothing but a prophet of the GOD I worship ,even d Bible has no basis that JESUS is god, technically ur d one wt no basis
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by unik12: 4:11pm On May 01, 2015
not surprise birds of thesame feathers will always flock together
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by Ifeann(f): 4:22pm On May 01, 2015
AvaterFolytaf:
Firstly,Where are the evidences?

Do u want him to show u a video tape of mohammed reciting all this or dig up mohammed to come and confess. Its in the quran and hadiths.

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Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by Ifeann(f): 4:26pm On May 01, 2015
mustymatic:

YOU ARE INDEED A JOKER

Islam and it strong association with paganism.
For example;
1. Mohammed's Pagan father was called Abdullah, which means slave of Allah long before Mohammed started Islam.
2. The crescent moon and star is seen high above almost every mosque not to mention the moon god was allegedly one of the 360 gods of the kabba.
3. The muslim obsession with black clothes.
4. The Islamic black flag.
5. The kissing of the black stone done by Muslims which was started by Mohammed for no apparent reason.
6. The circling of the kabba.
7. Compulsory pilgrimage for Muslims which was done by pagans in mecca before Islam.
8. Bowing down and facing mecca when praying. Etc
9. Cultural Superstitions and unfounded hate for wall geckos, dogs(mans best friend), cats etc
All these are some of the red flags that indicate that there maybe more to Islam than meets the eye. These pagan practises are not seen in Judaism and Christianity which Mohammed claims are people of the book and says he is one of their "prophets". Could Islam be the worlds largest monotheistic pagan religion. Let's look at more evidence.
Muhammad was born of pagan parents. His father,Abdullah and his mother,Amina were both pagans and they used to worship many idols. His entire childhood (probably up to his teen) was spent in paganism.
Today, many Muhammadans will find it extremely hard to digest this fact. However,Muhammad's pagan origin is disclosed by Hisham ibn al-Kalbi.
On page 17 of his important work,Kitab al-Asnam(The Book of Idols)he writes:
'We have been told that the Apostle of Allah once mentioned al-Uzza saying,
"I have offered a white sheep to al-'Uzza,while I was a follower of the religion of my people."
In the statement above Muhammad clearly admits his past adherence to paganism
- the then religion of the Quraysh.
When Muhammad became an adult and started to attend the annual assembly of poets at Ukazhe was deeply impressed and moved by the thoughts, eloquence, sentiment, freethinking and humanism expounded by many of those poets.
He started questioning the idol-worshipping and began to start preaching a new concept of one God,the creator-similar to the concepts of the Jews and the Christians of that time.
Nonetheless, he was confused as to which god ought to be his God. Allah,at that time, was the supreme god of the pagan Quraysh. From Muhammad's perspective, their only fault was that besides Allah,they used to worship as the intercessors with Allah the supreme god, other smaller gods/goddesses like: Hubal, Al-lat, Al-Uzza, Manat…etc.
So, at the start of his new concept of an almighty creator,Allah was out of his mind. Besides, at that time the magicians, the soothsayers, the sorcerers, and even the Satan worshippers used to vow byAllah. Thus, Muhammad,at the very beginning, found it utterly despicable to make Allah his God (ilah).
During those pagan days the people of Yemen used to worship another deity whose name was Ar-Rahman. Muhammad,for a while, adopted the name Ar-Rahman for God in place ofAllah. Coincidentally,Ar-Rahman was also the Jewish word Rahmana which was a name for God in the Talmudic period.
(Noldeke: The Koran, The Origins of the Koran, p.53).
Muhammad cleverly thought that by using the word Ar-Rahman he ought to be able to attract to his new ‘religion’, theJewsas well as some pagans.
*** Please note that no where in the Quran does Allah say that he has 99 additional names including Ar-Rahman.
In fact these 'names' are Allah's ATTRIBUTES/ SIFAT and NOT NAMES ***
So, when he declared himself to be the messenger ofAr-Rahman,theMeccans,too, were at a loss and confused. The Meccans did not know of any Ar-Rahman,other than the Ar-Rahman of al-Yamamah (some writers say Ar-Rahman,was atYemen).
When we read, with an unbiased mind, the first50 Suras(in chronological order)of theQuran,we note Muhammad’s confusion regrading Lord, Allah and Ar-Rahman. He was quite unsure of whom he should consider as hisGod (Ilah).
Here is a summary of the first50 Suras regarding Muhammad’s idea of hisGod:
Only Lord—68, 92, 89, 94, 100, 108, 105, 114, 97, 106, 75 (11 Suras)
Ar-Rahman, Lord—55, 36 (2 Suras)
Ar-Rahman, Allah, Lord—20
Allah, Lord—96, 73, 74, 81, 87, 53, 85, 50, 38, 7, 72, 25, 35, 56, 26, 27, 28, 17 (18 Suras)
This demonstrates Muhammad’s initial vacillation, confusion and ignorance of the affairs of hisGod (Ilah).
The Quran also confirms that when he started to preach his brand of faithMuhammadwas lost, confused and did not know much of religion. Here is what the Quranwrites:
93.7 And He found thee wandering,and He gave thee guidance.
12.3We do relate unto thee the most beautiful of stories, in that We reveal to thee this (portion of the)Qur'an:before this,thou too was among those who knew it not
42.52And thus have We, by Our Command, sent inspiration to thee:thou knewest not (before) what was Revelation, and what was Faith;but We have made the(Qur'an)a Light, wherewith We guide such of Our servants as We will; and verily thou dost guide (men) to the Straight Way ,-
*** Previously,Muhammad,as aPAGAN,was heedless of earlier revelations ***
Initially,Muhammad even eulogized the important gods (or idols) of the pagans by agreeing with the Quraysh- at some point that these gods were the intercessors ofAllah(The Satanic Verses).On the same page Hisham ibn al-Kalbi writes:
TheQuraysh were wont to circumambulate theKa'baand chant:
53.19ByAllat and al-'Uzza,
53.20AndManah,the third idol besides.
53.21 Verily they are the most exalted females/cranes[Gharaniq]
53.22 Whose intercession is to be sought.
These were also called"the Daughters of Allah: al Lat, al Uzza & al Manat"and were supposed to intercede beforeAllah.
Muhammad,in a moment of desperation and weakness, to try and bring his Quraysh tribe to his way of thinking, compromised his monotheism by allowing himself to state that he received theABOVE'revelation'fromAllah.
The above represent theSATANIC VERSEScontroversy, where by Satan allegedly was able to easily mislead Muhammad into allowing his followers to have partners withAllah,as they had under paganism; that is to allow the three daughters ofAllah to share his divine throne by being intercessors between humanity andAllah.
When Muhammad realised that he had compromised his Monotheism,he later very conveniently, ABROGATED verses 21 & 22 and replaced them with the following:
53.19Have ye seenLat. and 'Uzza,
53.20And another, the third (goddess),Manat?
53.21What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?
53.22Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair
53.23These are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!
*** To cover up the fact that he had compromised his monotheism,Muhammad found that the bestSCAPE GOAT is to very conveniently blame the unsuspecting :SATAN.
As u do more research on Islam you see more evidence for yourself.
For more info visit: http://www.inthenameofallah.org /Muhammad%20the%20Pagan.html
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 4:37pm On May 01, 2015
mustymatic:

I have all the basis bro. and JESUS is nothing but a prophet of the GOD I worship ,even d Bible has no basis that JESUS is god, technically ur d one wt no basis

Let it be registered in your mind that islam has been proved to be paganism with clear evidences, which you cannot refute. What Muhammad succeeded in doing was to stop people from worshiping their various idols and forced allahh, his fathers' idol on them all. He claimed allahh, which Mutaleb and Abdullai (known pagans) have been worshiping is the true God. How can an idol become the true God?

Mutaleb an idolater named his son Abdullai, meaning servant of allahh. This shows allahh was his idol. This same allahh Muhammad went to worship when islamic Gabriel appeared to him and told him he was going to be the prophet of allahh they have been worshiping as an idol. Can't you sense deception? So, so simple.

allahh was one of the 360 idols inside Kaaba. Every family had their own idol there and Muhammad's family own was allahh, which has become your true God now.
May God deliver you and others in your position in Jesus name.

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Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by tartar9(m): 5:19pm On May 01, 2015
truthman2012:


Let it be registered in your mind that islam has been proved to be paganism with clear evidences, which you cannot refute. What Muhammad succeeded in doing was to stop people from worshiping their various idols and forced allahh, his fathers' idol on them all. He claimed allahh, which Mutaleb and Abdullai (known pagans) have been worshiping is the true God. How can an idol become the true God?

Mutaleb an idolater named his son Abdullai, meaning servant of allahh. This shows allahh was his idol. This same allahh Muhammad went to worship when islamic Gabriel appeared to him and told him he was going to be the prophet of allahh they have been worshiping as an idol. Can't you sense deception? So, so simple.

allahh was one of the 360 idols inside Kaaba. Every family had their own idol there and Muhammad's family own was allahh, which has become your true God now.
May God deliver you and others in your position in Jesus name.

Allah is the Arabic name for God,it was used by Arab christians even before the establishment of Islam by the Holy Prophet Muhammad(SAW) and they still use it.
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by mustymatic(m): 5:22pm On May 01, 2015
truthman2012:


Let it be registered in your mind that islam has been proved to be paganism with clear evidences, which you cannot refute. What Muhammad succeeded in doing was to stop people from worshiping their various idols and forced allahh, his fathers' idol on them all. He claimed allahh, which Mutaleb and Abdullai (known pagans) have been worshiping is the true God. How can an idol become the true God?

Mutaleb an idolater named his son Abdullai, meaning servant of allahh. This shows allahh was his idol. This same allahh Muhammad went to worship when islamic Gabriel appeared to him and told him he was going to be the prophet of allahh they have been worshiping as an idol. Can't you sense deception? So, so simple.

allahh was one of the 360 idols inside Kaaba. Every family had their own idol there and Muhammad's family own was allahh, which has become your true God now.
May God deliver you and others in your position in Jesus name.

JESUS IS NOT GOD!!!
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 6:13pm On May 01, 2015
tartar9:
Allah is the Arabic name for God,it was used by Arab christians even before the establishment of Islam by the Holy Prophet Muhammad(SAW) and they still use it.

Allah does not necessarily mean the true God. The Arabs call whatever idol they worship allahh (Quran 6:136). That is why satan hid under the word 'allah' to deceive the muslims.

We know without any iota of doubt that Mutaleb's allahh was an idol because he was a pagan. Then he named his son Abdullai (servant of allah), meaning he was serving allahh as a pagan. Or which allahh was he serving as a pagan? The true God? No is the answer.

The Arab Christians' allah is the true God of the bible because He has all the attributes of the bible God, the Father of our Lord Jesus.

Mutaleb allah does not beget neither is he begotten. It is one of the idols inside Kaaba.

Quote the OP paragraph by paragraph and refute them if you can. It is impossible for any muslim to do so.
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by tartar9(m): 7:38pm On May 01, 2015
truthman2012:


Allah does not necessarily mean the true God. The Arabs call whatever idol they worship allahh (Quran 6:136). That is why satan hid under the word 'Allah' to deceive the muslims.

We know without any iota of doubt that Mutaleb's Allah was an idol because he was a pagan. Then he named his son Abdullai (servant of allah), meaning he was serving Allah as a pagan. Or which Allah was he serving as a pagan? The true God? No is the answer.

The Arab Christians' allah is the true God of the bible because He has all the attributes of the bible God, the Father of our Lord Jesus.

Mutaleb allah does not beget neither is he begotten. It is one of the idols inside Kaaba.

Quote the OP paragraph by paragraph and refute them if you can. It is impossible for any muslim to do so.
you are changing it now.firstly,you implied Allah means a god now it doesn't necessarily mean God which is also false,the word Allah can only be used for God or the Supreme being/Creator the one that can be used for a god is ilah.and also,you should recognize your logical fallacy of backing this up by saying he isn't the true God because He isn't a Holy trinity
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 8:06pm On May 01, 2015
tartar9:
you are changing it now.firstly,you implied Allah means a god now it doesn't necessarily mean God which is also false,the word Allah can only be used for God or the Supreme being/Creator the one that can be used for a god is ilah.and also,you should recognize your logical fallacy of backing this up by saying he isn't the true God because He isn't a Holy trinity

All this is distraction, refute the OP paragraph by paragraph.

I discovered many of my thread muslims could not refute including this one in question.

Also look at all these:

https://www.nairaland.com/2279859/true-story-abrahams-journey-mecca

Muslims ran away saying they have treated it before, which is a lie.


https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe

The only man that attempted this told a lie that the changes in allahh words was in Sharia Law. What does sharia law have to do with the many changes discovered in the quran?

https://www.nairaland.com/2249230/lessons-muhammads-ascension-heaven

No attempt on this by any muslims.
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by tartar9(m): 10:07pm On May 01, 2015
truthman2012:


All this is distraction, refute the OP paragraph by paragraph.

I discovered many of my thread muslims could not refute including this one in question.

Also look at all these:

https://www.nairaland.com/2279859/true-story-abrahams-journey-mecca

Muslims ran away saying they have treated it before, which is a lie.


https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe

The only man that attempted this told a lie that the changes in allahh words was in Sharia Law. What does sharia law have to do with the many changes discovered in the quran?

https://www.nairaland.com/2249230/lessons-muhammads-ascension-heaven

No attempt on this by any muslims.
my reply summarily refuted your claims.I am currently busy,refuting them paragraph by paragraph won't be possible for now.even when/if I do,it still wouldn't make any difference to a closed-minded people.
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 10:24am On May 02, 2015
tartar9:
my reply summarily refuted your claims.I am currently busy,refuting them paragraph by paragraph won't be possible for now.even when/if I do,it still wouldn't make any difference to a closed-minded people.

Liar! Running away.

What did you say to refute anything?

Do your close-minded people include the muslims who are following the thread as guests? Why not convince them so that they won't lose faith in islam.

No muslims have anything to debunk my threads. Even for other Christians' threads, you use lies to refute them and many of them you look away from, pretending you ignore them. Smh!
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 10:25am On May 02, 2015
mustymatic:

JESUS IS NOT GOD!!!

Because quran tells you lies about Him.

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Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by tartar9(m): 10:42am On May 02, 2015
truthman2012:


Liar! Running away.

What did you say to refute anything?

Do your close-minded people include the muslims who are following the thread as guests? Why not convince them so that they won't lose faith in islam.

No muslims have anything to debunk my threads. Even for other Christians' threads, you use lies to refute them and many of them you look away from, pretending you ignore them. Smh!
and how did you know if I am lying,your 'holy' spirit told you undecided
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 10:50am On May 02, 2015
tartar9:
and how did you know if I am lying,your 'holy' spirit told you undecided

Nonsense!
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by mustymatic(m): 3:53pm On May 02, 2015
truthman2012:

Because quran tells you lies about Him.
My brother the quran doesn't lie, I believe in Jesus too
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 5:55pm On May 02, 2015
mustymatic:

My brother the quran doesn't lie, I believe in Jesus too

If it doesn't lie, why is it inconsistent? It says something and changes it later. Why is that if not lies?

https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by Bakrabas: 6:33pm On May 02, 2015
I can't blame the ignorant that posted the fallacy of ignoratio.you can't just interprets a stupid and nonsense interpretation. the site you quoted was designed by the enemies of Islam.

the holy book on earth without versions-----al- Qur'an

no edition

no interpolation

no contradiction

Qur'an 2 :116 and the (Jews, Christian and pagan) say: Allah has begotten a son(children or offspring). Glorified is He (exalted is He above all that they associate with Him). Nay,to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth, and all surrender with obedience (in worship) to him.

therefore Muslims warship the God of Jesus Christ

Islam is not paganism.

check the book of Zephaniah 3:9 where the said He will change the religion of the world so that you can warship Him with one language.


only religion of Islam fulfilled the zeph3:9.as the only world religion worshiping with one language... Arabic


go and read tefsir before you can interpret Al-qur'an

don't spoil it like bible
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 7:16pm On May 02, 2015
Bakrabas:
I can't blame the ignorant that posted the fallacy of ignoratio.you can't just interprets a stupid and nonsense interpretation. the site you quoted was designed by the enemies of Islam.

the holy book on earth without versions-----al- Qur'an

no edition

no interpolation

no contradiction

Qur'an 2 :116 and the (Jews, Christian and pagan) say: Allah has begotten a son(children or offspring). Glorified is He (exalted is He above all that they associate with Him). Nay,to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth, and all surrender with obedience (in worship) to him.

therefore Muslims warship the God of Jesus Christ

Islam is not paganism.

check the book of Zephaniah 3:9 where the said He will change the religion of the world so that you can warship Him with one language.


only religion of Islam fulfilled the zeph3:9.as the only world religion worshiping with one language... Arabic


go and read tefsir before you can interpret Al-qur'an

don't spoil it like bible



Don't derail the thread by introducing another topic.

Refute Op paragraph by paragraph if you can. Did you notice quran 2:158? It says allahh is worshiped as the custom of pagan. Why would the bible God return the world to paganism?

Your bible quote is your own misinterpretation.

Zephaniah 3:8-9
8. Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the Lord, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.

9. For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent.

You just quoted out of context. Verse 8 is taking about the day of judgement whie verse 9 is talking about the kingdom of heaven when only one language will be in use.

What is special about arabic? A language from Ishmael, the cast-out.

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Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by Bakrabas: 7:23pm On May 02, 2015
this is the Qur'an 2: 148.idiot where did you get your pagan
you can't spoil Qur'an like Bible


2:158. The Safâ and the Marwah (- the two eminences near Ka‘bah) are certainly (two) of the symbols of Allâh, so he who is on Pilgrimage to the House or performs ‘Umrah (- a visit to Ka‘bah), there is no blame on him to ­perform Tawâf (- to run between) the two (eminences), and he who remains thoroughly dutiful and chooses to do good deeds spontaneously, then surely (he will find) Allâh is Appreciative and rewards every good deed done. Surely, Allâh is All-Knowing.

Qur'an 53:19 is talking about the gods of idolaters
Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by truthman2012(m): 7:44pm On May 02, 2015
Bakrabas:
this is the Qur'an 2: 148.idiot where did you get your pagan
you can't spoil Qur'an like Bible


2:158. The Safâ and the Marwah (- the two eminences near Ka‘bah) are certainly (two) of the symbols of Allâh, so he who is on Pilgrimage to the House or performs ‘Umrah (- a visit to Ka‘bah), there is no blame on him to ­perform Tawâf (- to run between) the two (eminences), and he who remains thoroughly dutiful and chooses to do good deeds spontaneously, then surely (he will find) Allâh is Appreciative and rewards every good deed done. Surely, Allâh is All-Knowing.

Qur'an 53:19 is talking about the gods of idolaters

I didn't tell you 2:148 I said 2:158.

[Quran 2:158 Pickthal] Lo! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (AS THE PAGAN CUSTOM IS). And he who doeth good of his own accord, (for him) lo! Allah is Responsive, Aware.

http://quran.al-islam.org/

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