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Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by georgiana: 2:12pm On Feb 22, 2018
A 45-year-old former member of the Jehovah’s Witness has gruesomely killed her entire family before taking her own life, after she was reportedly shunned by members of the church.
According to the news report, the woman identified as Lauren Stuart, 45, fatally shot her husband and adult children in a murder-suicide last week at their Keego Harbor home.
Following a 911 call by a concerned relative, police arrived at the house Friday morning to find the bodies of the woman, husband Daniel Stuart, 47; son Steven Stuart, 27; and daughter Bethany Stuart, 24.
Friends said they believe the 45-year-old mom was driven to kill after she was shunned by the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the religion she was raised practicing, according to the Detroit Free Press.
Read more: http://naijachurchnews.com/woman-shunned-jehovah-witnesses-kills-self-family/

Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by GentleMoney: 2:15pm On Feb 22, 2018
Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by SOFTENGR: 2:22pm On Feb 22, 2018
Pishure or idontbilivit
Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by true2god: 5:19pm On Feb 22, 2018
georgiana:
A 45-year-old former member of the Jehovah’s Witness has gruesomely killed her entire family before taking her own life, after she was reportedly shunned by members of the church.
According to the news report, the woman identified as Lauren Stuart, 45, fatally shot her husband and adult children in a murder-suicide last week at their Keego Harbor home.
Following a 911 call by a concerned relative, police arrived at the house Friday morning to find the bodies of the woman, husband Daniel Stuart, 47; son Steven Stuart, 27; and daughter Bethany Stuart, 24.
Friends said they believe the 45-year-old mom was driven to kill after she was shunned by the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the religion she was raised practicing, according to the Detroit Free Press.
Read more: http://naijachurchnews.com/woman-shunned-jehovah-witnesses-kills-self-family/
The 8 so-called 'elders' in Brooklyn Street NY, the headquarters of the JW, should be blamed for the poison they usually administer into the psyche of their followers; they are indirectly responsible for this woman's evil action.

May the souls of the deceased rest in peace.

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Niflheim(m): 10:40am On Feb 27, 2018
@SOFTENGR,

These are the pictures you requested for:

And these are the links for the 2 photos.....................................https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/keego-harbor-jehovahs-witness-mom-triple-murder-suicide/351559002/


The second link:............................................................https://nypost.com/2018/02/21/woman-shunned-by-jehovahs-witnesses-kills-entire-family-cops/

Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by agwom(m): 10:47am On Feb 27, 2018
hmm
Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by NemoDatQuod(m): 12:50pm On Sep 17, 2022
@True2god.

Are you really true to God? If you are, you would have studied your copy of the bible and you would have read and understood where God told His followers, through Paul thus :
1 Corinthians 5:11 — The New King James Version (NKJV)

11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

A Christian would know this command from God. The question you need to ask yourself is why is it that you, who most likely identify as Christian, did not know that God commanded you not to associate with and hang out with someone who claims to be Christian and practice any of the above things. If you had known , you would not have put the blame on " The 8 so-called 'elders' in Brooklyn Street NY, the headquarters of the JW".

Though you did not mean to, you effectively blamed God for administering "poison into the psyche of His followers".

I have maximum respect for the JW. They teach ONLY what is in the scriptures, no matter how difficult it is. They simply teach what the bible says without adding or removing. They believe the scriptures to be the word of God and hence do not think they have a right to be selective on what they believe from God and what they do not believe.

true2god:

The 8 so-called 'elders' in Brooklyn Street NY, the headquarters of the JW, should be blamed for the poison they usually administer into the psyche of their followers; they are indirectly responsible for this woman's evil action.

Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Courz: 1:53pm On Sep 17, 2022
I know this story. And this isn't the only case. There are other cases of Murder suicide because of this religion. There are many people who committed suicide due to the Isolation this religion promotes. Once you disagree with their doctrines and leave the Cult, you are isolated immediately. It is a dangerous Cult that destroys dreams and families. It is solely responsible for a lot of needless deaths due to incorrect, twisted Bible interpretations. Nothing more nothing less. This is how you know something is terribly wrong with this religion.

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:58pm On Sep 17, 2022
Courz:
I know this story. And this isn't the only case. There are other cases of Murder suicide because of this religion. There are many people who committed suicide due to the Isolation this religion promotes. Once you disagree with their doctrines and leave the Cult, you are isolated immediately. It is a dangerous Cult that destroys dreams and families. It is solely responsible for a lot of needless deaths due to incorrect, twisted Bible interpretations. Nothing more nothing less. This is how you know something is terribly wrong with this religion.

Judas Iscariot committed suicide {Matthew 27:5} because he remembered Jesus saying:

“No man who has put his hand to a plow and looks at the things behind is well-suited for the kingdom of God" Luke 9:62

So why did he committed suicide?
Did Jesus teach them suicide?

NO!
People commiting suicide felt they've become hopeless without God's approval! smiley

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Dtruthspeaker: 5:48pm On Sep 17, 2022
NemoDatQuod:
...They teach ONLY what is in the scriptures, no matter how difficult it is. They simply teach what the bible says without adding or removing...

You lie here!

We all have seen how words used can be bent into a lie without even touching the words.

Not to talk of their removal of the words "and these 3 are one" in their Bible.

So you see, you lie.

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Dtruthspeaker: 5:51pm On Sep 17, 2022
NemoDatQuod:
...They teach ONLY what is in the scriptures, no matter how difficult it is. They simply teach what the bible says without adding or removing...

You lie here!

We all have seen how words used can be bent into a lie without even touching the words.

Not to talk of their removal of the words "and these 3 are one" in their Bible.

So you see, you lie.

See, even this guy confirms it

Courz:
I It is a dangerous Cult that destroys dreams and families. It is solely responsible for a lot of needless deaths due to incorrect, twisted Bible interpretations. Nothing more nothing less.

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Courz: 6:18pm On Sep 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Judas Iscariot committed suicide {Matthew 27:5} because he remembered Jesus saying:

“No man who has put his hand to a plow and looks at the things behind is well-suited for the kingdom of God" Luke 9:62

So why did he committed suicide?
Did Jesus teach them suicide?

NO!
People commiting suicide felt they've become hopeless without God's approval! smiley

Your Cult is a doomsday Cult and a Death Cult. Your Cult is responsible for many needless deaths and the blood of these people remain on Watchtower's hands. Watchtower is Blood guilty and they will pay for it. Nowhere will you read in the Bible where Christians were shunned to the point of committing suicide and Murder. For that to happen in your Cult means something is wrong with your doctrines. Something is wrong with your religion. You are in an Antichrist Cult that seeks to replace the position of Jesus. I will continue to sound this to your hearing. Your Jehovah is Satan and it is about time people know this. And it is no wonder where Satan dwells, needless deaths follow. What kind of religion has consequences for leaving it? That is a Cult.

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Blue86(m): 6:23pm On Sep 17, 2022
Everybody is welcomed with open hands by the Lord Jesus, if one assembly discard you, there are many others, except if you are brainwashed that the assembly that discarded you is the only true assembly there is, and there is no other.
Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by NemoDatQuod(m): 6:28pm On Sep 17, 2022
I am glad you did not refute what God said in the 1st Corinthians I quoted. I take it you agree with God that a Christian should not pall around with those who claim to be their brothers/sisters and who engage in what God described in that 1st Corinthians. So it is the duty of a Christian to "shun" such persons. It is not the poison dished out by the so called eight in NY, as stated by the OP.

Your silence shows that you are in agreement with that one, right? When the truth is pointed out to you, you owe yourself a responsibility to acknowledge that truth. That way, you make that truth your own and ensure that you repudiate the associated falsehood wherever else it arises. So, start by acknowledging the truth of what God stated in the scriptures first, before you raise additional accusations. Or do you want to state as your opinion ( without any evidence) that the command in 1st Corinthians has been doctored?

Secondly, I am not a peddler. If you want to have a constructive conversation ( not proud shouting match of "my voice is bigger than yours" ), raise an issue where you think JW has misinterpreted the scripture or twisted it as you have accused them of doing without proffering evidence. State which verse and chapter they've twisted in their bible. State the name of that their "special" bible. Then quote the same scripture from another bible that you trust. Then we can have a respectful conversation.

Repeating fallacies and hearsay is different from undertaking a diligent, disciplined study and arriving at your own independent conclusions.

To be a truth speaker, as your handle suggests, you have to first be ready and willing to make out time to research the truth. You also need to be someone who is open to acknowledge the truth when he sees it.

You consciously did not acknowledge the truth you saw in that 1st Corinthians, because it did not fit into your narrative. Instead, you went after another fallacy and lie because you did not have a valid response to the truth you saw. God is not about which church you go to or which pastor(or "man of god" ) you make your god. God is about truth and truth is based on facts(John 17:3, NIV: Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent).

That is no way to be a truth seeker let alone truth speaker. A truth speaker follows the facts regardless of where it leads and he/she acknowledges it when it stares him in the face and is happy and willing to change their views based on the truth.

When you think you are that person, then we can have a respectful conversation.

I won't even give attention to the fact that you are comfortable calling someone you do not know "a liar", simply because you have differences of opinion and without you providing the evidence on why the person is a liar. You can have a different opinion without being nasty and calling someone a liar. Those who truly want to do good in life find it difficult to easily associate with demeaning words such as that.



Dtruthspeaker:


You lie here!

We all have seen how words used can be bent into a lie without even touching the words.

Not to talk of their removal of the words "and these 3 are one" in their Bible.

So you see, you lie.

See, even this guy confirms it






Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:40pm On Sep 17, 2022
NemoDatQuod:
I am glad you did not refute what God said in the 1st Corinthians I quoted. I take it you agree with God that a Christian should not pall around with those who claim to be their brothers/sisters and who engage in what God described in that 1st Corinthians. So it is the duty of a Christian to "shun" such persons. It is not the poison dished out by the so called eight in NY, as stated by the OP.

Your silence shows that you are in agreement with that one, right? When the truth is pointed out to you, you owe yourself a responsibility to acknowledge that truth. That way, you make that truth your own and ensure that you repudiate the associated falsehood wherever else it arises. So, start by acknowledging the truth of what God stated in the scriptures first, before you raise additional accusations. Or do you want to state as your opinion ( without any evidence) that the command in 1st Corinthians has been doctored?

Secondly, I am not a peddler. If you want to have a constructive conversation ( not proud shouting match of "my voice is bigger than yours" ), raise an issue where you think JW has misinterpreted the scripture or twisted it as you have accused them of doing without proffering evidence. State which verse and chapter they've twisted in their bible. State the name of that their "special" bible. Then quote the same scripture from another bible that you trust. Then we can have a respectful conversation.

Repeating fallacies and hearsay is different from undertaking a diligent, disciplined study and arriving at your own independent conclusions.

To be a truth speaker, as your handle suggests, you have to first be ready and willing to make out time to research the truth. You also need to be someone who is open to acknowledge the truth when he sees it.

You consciously did not acknowledge the truth you saw in that 1st Corinthians, because it did not fit into your narrative. Instead, you went after another fallacy and lie because you did not have a valid response to the truth you saw. God is not about which church you go to or which pastor(or "man of god" ) you make your god. God is about truth and truth is based on facts. That is no way to be a truth seeker let alone truth speaker. A truth speaker follows the facts regardless of where it leads and he/she acknowledges it when it stares him in the face and is happy and willing to change their views based on the truth.

When you think you are that person, then we can have a respectful conversation.

I won't even give attention to the fact that you are comfortable calling someone you do not know "a liar", simply because you have differences of opinion and without you providing the evidence on why the person is a liar. You can have a different opinion without the other opinion being a lie and without being nasty and calling someone a liar. Those who truly want to do good in life find it difficult to easily associate with demeaning words such as that.

Judas Iscariot is the first and foremost person who proved that there's no other group you can associate with by committing suicide as he felt his fellow disciples will not take him back.
So if such can only happen in a harmless group today then such a group must be same as that which Judas Iscariot couldn't afford to loose! smiley

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Courz: 6:47pm On Sep 17, 2022
Doomsday Cult. Satanic Cult masquerading as a Christian One with Occultism all over it with no value for human life and teaches its members to be Narcissistic, to lack a sense of self awareness, to lack empathy for people that leave the Cult and also remain delusional. They believe anyone that leaves the Cult will be destroyed by God at Armaggedon. You can see their members showed no remorse or concern over the death of this woman. Their rules are Law. Any Cult with no value for human life has Satan's handprint and footprint on it. Beware! Almighty God and Jesus exposed Watchtower in the Bible way back before they were born but Watchtower refuses to read or quote those verses to JWs where they were exposed and it is a good thing people reject them when they go Preaching.

Serious question : Why do they have so much in common with dangerous Cults in the last picture below? And get this, All Cults shun their former members. Their former members are their Number One Enemy! They believe anyone that leaves the Cult has been disfellowshipped which isn't always true because there are presently JWs who have seen the lies of the Cult but can't leave because of the consequences. They are just in the Cult because of family. Their family will shun them if they leave. They don't speak to their family members for many years even till death. Some are rendered homeless. They will loose their jobs if their employers are JWs. You are not allowed to disagree with the Cult. Ever! Many have damned the consequences and left but their family relationships suffer. What kind of religion holds its members ransom by wanting to destroy Family relations and social circle? Using Emotional blackmail. If you're a diehard JW That listened to Watchtower to make friends with only JWs, you will feel the heat of the isolation the most if you choose to leave. The Cult is designed to isolate JWs then make them suffer isolation if they choose to leave. That's Satanic! Jesus will never do that! Even marriages are broken or start having problems simply because one person wants to leave or has left the Cult. The Cult is Number One and more important than anything else! That's why this woman killed herself and her family. It is because of this poison they spread that they are banned in many countries. They are extremists!

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by NemoDatQuod(m): 6:53pm On Sep 17, 2022
Millions of people throughout the earth stated that Covid -19 did not exist.

Did that make it true? In fact, a large number of those same deniers were themselves killed by the very disease whose existence they denied, because they were lax about it, given their erroneous belief. "See, even these guys confirm it". Did their belief/confirmation make it true that Covid-19 was not in existence and ravaging and killing million, just two years ago?

My suggestion to you is to remove that handle of "DtruthSpeaker". You do not have what it takes to seek the truth, let alone speak it if you find it. At least not yet. Your "truth" is currently based on what someone or others say. You do not even know who you are referring to in saying " See, even this guy confirm it". You don't know the person's agenda.

If you want the truth about something, you need to pay the price. (Remember the Iron Price in GOT?). smiley You buy(make out) time, spend it with discipline in studying, corroborating, putting your mental powers to use in reasoning and questioning and understanding what you are studying. Then you will arrive at the truth devoid of "See, even this guy confirms it". Then you can proudly take on the moniker of "Dtruthspeaker".




Dtruthspeaker:



So you see, you lie.

See, even this guy confirms it






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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Courz: 7:13pm On Sep 17, 2022
How they get their doctrines below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFMQnZbyRko
Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Dtruthspeaker: 7:31am On Sep 18, 2022
NemoDatQuod:
Millions of people throughout the earth stated that Covid -19 did not exist.

Did that make it true? In fact, a large number of those same deniers were themselves killed by the very disease whose existence they denied, because they were lax about it, given their erroneous belief. "See, even these guys confirm it". Did their belief/confirmation make it true that Covid-19 was not in existence and ravaging and killing million, just two years ago?

Change of post!

The issue is not about Covid whose Truth was established. (And there will be someone who says that there was no covid in the first place).

So nothing here.

NemoDatQuod:

My suggestion to you is to remove that handle of "DtruthSpeaker". You do not have what it takes to seek the truth,...

Now you attacked the man rather than the issue (Ad hominem).. Clear proof of nothing to say!

NemoDatQuod:

Your "truth" is currently based on what someone or others say. You do not even know who you are referring to in saying " See, even this guy confirm it". You don't know the person's agenda

Another Change of Post!

We are not about "my Truth" but talking about the Truth of Jws twisting and bending and removal of the Words in the Bible.

Then secondly, I know you know that one of the ways Truth is ascertained and received is by the testimony of the those who saw the fact in issue and by corroboration.

So, I know you, whose monika is one of the twin principles of fair hearing and yet are you far from being fair.

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Janosky: 6:20pm On Sep 18, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:

You lie here!

We all have seen how words used can be bent into a lie without even touching the words.

Not to talk of their removal of the words "and these 3 are one" in their Bible.

So you see, you lie.

See, even this guy confirms it
Dtruthspeaker:


Change of post!

The issue is not about Covid whose Truth was established. (And there will be someone who says that there was no covid in the first place).

So nothing here.



Now you attacked the man rather than the issue (Ad hominem).. Clear proof of nothing to say!



Another Change of Post!

We are not about "my Truth" but talking about the Truth of Jws twisting and bending and removal of the Words in the Bible.

Then secondly, I know you know that one of the ways Truth is ascertained and received is by the testimony of the those who saw the fact in issue and by corroboration.

So, I know you, whose monika is one of the twin principles of fair hearing and yet are you far from being fair.


Your 3 deities worshippers added "in heaven & this 3 are one".
The FRAUD of Johanine Comma exists ONLY in the 16th century TR manuscripts used for king James Bible and TR manuscripts Bibles.
Biblehub your fellow 3 deities worshippers have exposed the fact.
Oga, please carry your GIBBERISH outta here.

Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Dtruthspeaker: 6:29pm On Sep 18, 2022
Janosky:


[b]Your 3 deities worshippers added "in heaven & this 3 are one".
The FRAUD of...

God will settle all these things when He Comes so, no case here.

Secondly, John was Jewish and not Greek so your bible hub presentation would not be correct, just saying!
Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Janosky: 6:30pm On Sep 18, 2022
Blue86:
Everybody is welcomed with open hands by the Lord Jesus, if one assembly discard you, there are many others, except if you are brainwashed that the assembly that discarded you is the only true assembly there is, and there is no other.
Is 1 Corinthians 5:1-13 in your Bible?
Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Blue86(m): 6:37pm On Sep 18, 2022
Did you read the topic headline?
Janosky:

Is 1 Corinthians 5:1-13 in your Bible?

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Janosky: 6:57pm On Sep 18, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


God will settle all these things when He Comes so, no case here.

Secondly, John was Jewish and not Greek so your bible hub presentation would not be correct, just saying!

. Oga, Johanine Comma in king James Bible is a monumental FRAUD.

Let me show you another example.. John 10:33.
John wrote the Jews said to Jesus:
"You are a man making yourself a god", the same word @ 1 Corinthians 8:5, Acts 28:6,Acts 12:22.

But your 3 deities worshippers CHANGED that to capitalize letter G.

E dun tay tay your Trinity mentors dey do FRAUD inside holy Bible.

Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Dtruthspeaker: 7:01pm On Sep 18, 2022
Janosky:


. Oga, Johanine Comma in king James Bible is a monumental FRAUD.

Let me show you another example.. John 10:33.
John wrote the Jews said to Jesus:
"You are a man making yourself a god", the same word @ 1 Corinthians 8:5, Acts 28:6,Acts 12:22.

But your 3 deities worshippers CHANGED that to capitalize letter G.

E dun tay tay your Trinity mentors dey do FRAUD inside holy Bible.


God go settle all dis things wen He Come and d most important thing for us be say make we no dey guilty of doing any thing wey God don talk say He no like.
Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Janosky: 7:03pm On Sep 18, 2022
Blue86:
Did you read the topic headline?
Did you study 1 Corinthians 5:1-13,the holy scripture which treats the matter of the topic of the thread?
Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Janosky: 7:11pm On Sep 18, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


God go settle all dis things wen He Come and d most important thing for us be say make we no dey guilty of doing any way God don talk say He no like.
Luke 1:31-32 & John 5:22.
Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Blue86(m): 7:20pm On Sep 18, 2022
You mean the one led to a sister's death and macabre massacre of her family, is it to that end the scriptures you are quoting is made?
Janosky:

Did you study 1 Corinthians 5:1-13,the holy scripture which treats the matter of the topic of the thread?

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:22pm On Sep 18, 2022
Blue86:
Everybody is welcomed with open hands by the Lord Jesus, if one assembly discard you, there are many others, except if you are brainwashed that the assembly that discarded you is the only true assembly there is, and there is no other.
It's only Satan's organization that has nothing to do with disciplinary actions that's why Jesus referred to it as the broad road but in God's own organization you can't walk anyhow, Jesus emphasized on this by referring to pure worship as the narrow path {Matthew 7:13-14} so if your religion doesn't have disciplinary actions it's OK we know why it's so! Matthew 7:21-23 smiley

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:25pm On Sep 18, 2022
Blue86:
You mean the one led to a sister's death and macabre massacre of her family, is it to that end the scriptures you are quoting is made?
A couple died not by committing suicide but it was the spirit of God that struck both husband and wife dead! Act 5:11
So if you were alive back in the days of the Apostles would you have advised anyone to be a member of such a group? smiley

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Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by Blue86(m): 7:28pm On Sep 18, 2022
Thank God, you differentiated between suicide and judgement of God.
MaxInDHouse:

A couple died not by committing suicide but it was the spirit of God that struck both husband and wife dead! Act 5:11
So if you were alive back in the days of the Apostles would you have advised anyone to be a member of such a group? smiley
Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:29pm On Sep 18, 2022
Blue86:
Thank God, you differentiated between suicide and judgement of God.
Judas Iscariot committed suicide o and he also belong to the same group in fact he was one of the closest confidants of the founder of the group: An Apostle!
So you have no point! smiley

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