0monnak0da:


The logical problem with your submission is this:

You should be argung that the schools should be scrapped.

Unity schools are not the mechanism for providing secondary school education for the majority of pupils as this also is not within the purview of the Federal governent.
Secondary school education is a state goverment function.

In our wisdom we decided decades ago to have Unity schools and the terms of engagementt were clear from the outset. To start bringing in emotive arguments like one child putting another dow is churlish.
The shools are set up fundamentally on a quota syste philosophy to foster unity. If we disagree with that premise then scrap them. They were never intended as centres of excellence for our brightest and best but as a means of National Integration.
The financial argument is that if the schools were scrapped the money would and should be shared equally to all the states. It is not by any means a meritocracy. The Unity schools have a small quota for National Merit and that quota woul from the figures I see entirely be taken by southern states.There is no cut off mark for the National Merit quota on a state by state basis.

The thing is National Merit as it is called exists but it is a minority percentage so people can debate what is the optimaal level for National Merit

Next is n environmental quota to provide for the Host state and neighbouring states and then the State quota.

So For example State quota may be 60 or 70 % . Environmental quota 20% and National Merit 10% .
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The total slots of Unity school admissions is less than 0.01% of secondary school provision in Nigeria so there are many alternatives and at any rate these are the only National secondary schools. There is no oint for these schools to exist or Ohhanaeze states can opt out and ask for their share of the money to be given to them.


I am a full chamion of meritocracy and fights against destructive quotta systems but not for Unity schools.We should either scrrap them or allow uninterested states to opt out.

The reality is the Federal money that goes into these states cannot be appropriated for a few states no matter how clever the kids are. That simply is not the role of the FG.

connkg:


In summary, is merit exclusive of Quota System?
Can Quota System be practised after equal performance tests? Does a cultural interchange only occur when performance levels are different? I do not think the current practice was the original idea.
Everything you wrote DOES NOT negate merit. QS and merit are not mutually exclusive.
Do not confuse QS with low performance.

Firstpage:


Scumbag! you are not even bold enough to quote me. So you don't know that in Unity schools, Students from Anambra are more than students from Zamfara? the joke is on your dumb ass. 'Unity' schools are founded on the basis of unity just like 'world' cup, diversity is the aim. If not, teams like saudi arabia, iran, new Zealand would never qualify for world cup.

joudini:
This clown drawing parallels with FIFA world cup doesn't realise that despite representatives from all continents, merit is maintained and that is why you have UEFA having 13 countries outside the host and you have CONCACAF with 3 direct slots.

This clown...hahahahahaha.

NafeesaAA:


Why is it that only Igbos wail about the inequal cut off mark for admission into Unity Schools? Are they the only tribe in Nigeria. Is it by force to send your Children to Unity Schools?

There are only 104 federal unity schools in Nigeria.

Meanwhile there are tens of thousands of secondary schools in Nigeria - State and public owned, why not send your highly intelligent kids there. Better still why not lobby your governors to set up dis-unity schools in your region, and set up whatever criteria you like for admission.

QuotaSystem:


A remarkable majority of quotasystem products are a lot better than half-baked, barely literate products of state and LG owned institutions; this is a fact and the proof is right here on nairaland.

Chukazu:


In that case, it will be just to increase the slot allotted the states with the highest cut-off.

There are better things we can do to increase overall access and interest for education...not the way FG is going about it

If some people don't want to go to school, you don't force it.

maasoap:

A judge recalled him, pure and simple. If the police refused to comply with with judgement that included promotion and payment of backlog of arrears, the man would still go back to court. Police authorities have got no options than to comply.
Now, go back to the case and judge's verdicts, you will understand what went wrong with the case that led to the acquittal of that policeman. It was unfortunate that he was freed, the judge had no choice.

joudini:


Do you have any sense at all? What are they supposed to do on this case that they haven't been doing as a cultural organization?

What is the correlation between the demands for an equitable educational justice with the political drivel you have up there?

Pathetic filth.

joudini:


The problem is that you are shortsighted, and so are your kind. By willingly allowing yourself to play fairly in an unjust system, you provide conditions for your continued repression by the system.

Throwback:


Hahaha!

You have come back to be disgraced, and I will disgrace you today.

The first African Judge at ICJ/World Court was Isaac Forster of Senegal. Even your fellow clansmen revealed that information themselves while trying to disprove me.

Secondly, the thread was about an Igbo being president of the ICC and not just a judge. So I countered with a Yoruba who was also President of a superior ICJ/World Court, and he was the first African to hold such an esteemed judicial position.

At no time did I ever say Taslim Olawale Elias was the first African or Nigerian Judge at ICJ. No he was not.

What is my business discussing judges when your clansmen were gloating about their own President. Did anyone gloat when the same Chile Osuji was just a judge at ICC as I suppose he was before he became president?
So why would I want to boast about Elias being a judge at ICJ when I could boast as I did about him being the first African President of such a superior World Court.

It was too sorrowful to accept as the clansmen's joy turned into agony.

InyinyaAgbaOku:


At thr end of the day, you don't have a point.
An Igbo man was the first Nigerian to represent the nation at the Hague and you are here typing trash.
Choke on that.

The war is the only thing that made Yorubas try to see Igbos bark, so, fold those your UI and Unilag story too and keep it in the dustbin where it belongs cos you haven't convinced anyone since you started peddling that crap

Throwback:


At the end of the day, I made a factual point that turned their joy to sorrow. While you are gloating about an Igbo ICC president in 2018 that is inferior, we Yorubas already had a superior World Court/ICJ President in 1982 without making noise.

No proud Igbo has been able to meet up to the challenge I gave when your fellow clansman made an outlandish claim that while Igbos were receiving education, Yorubas were illiterate farmers.

I first reminded the clown that Igbos did not even have a secondary school until 1925, many decades after many towns had secondary schools.

Then came my challenge that he-she clown should name 10 Igbo Lawyers and 10 Igbo Doctors contributing to the growth of Igboland before 1900, while I will name 20 of each discipline for the Yorubas before 1900.

I was forced to reduce it to 5each, and then later just 3 university graduates in Igboland as at 1900, just so that the clown can save face and redeem some pride.

Till today, no single boastful Igbo has been able to meet up to a challenge that is mission impossible. Considering that there were many Yoruba Lawyers, Doctors, Engineers and even a Mathematics university graduate before same 1900, who I reckon were the illiterate farmers at a time the Igbos were already advancing in an imaginary education.

I hereby throw you the very same challenge but to mention just 2 Igbo university graduates in Igboland as at 1900, seeing you are also a proud, boastful and delusional Igbo.

0monnak0da:

The day has not yet come when an Aboki would lecture me you do not have the range or depth. Whatever you might think you have achieved academically you would be a poor ersatz by my side so do not go there.

What you said is still there. Clear as mud.

If we accept that people are not intrinsially inferior then ultimately it all ust come down to culture.
We are educationally backward in Nigeriia, you asserted earlier. That must be relative to somewhere else. .
I argue that that too is down to culture.
That international differencee though is no where near the intranational difference that we have in Nigeria( i.e. North/South). Yet for decades the chief Justice of Nigeria has been from the Nortth. Does this reflect the graduation data from our law school or quality?.

Even such discriminatory practice as well as quota systems etc are all part of CULTURE ,if you don't know.


The cultural issues that produce backwardness educationally for Nigeria are quite different from those in the North though they act synergistically to produce the profound backwardness that we see in the North.
The academic mindset in the south is competitive from day one. If you see a southerner in a British University 9 times out of 10 he is hustling whereas a Northerner is there on scholarship or because he has rich parents.
A northerner who achieves a PhD is celebrated and a celebrity not so down south.
Fury and bluster will not change this and the quota system only makes you lazy. I have been to school with Southerners and Northerners and yes there are 1 or two from the North who I have met outside Nigeria,again one or two, in academia but also I have met hundreds of Ibos and Yorubas etc. And even when I do meet such Northerners usually they are Kwara,Kogi and such like.Yes there are a few from further up north but none of them has excelled more than southerners and this again ,I believe, is cultural.

This is what Ohanaeze are bitter about and using the Unity school issue as a proxy battleground for.

I believe Unity schools should be sequestrated from the quota system debate but the reality is if we ran a genuine meritocracy over 80%of Northerners in FG elmpoyent cannot be there

To that extent the North is holding the country back

I do not need to Google Sanusi and his procured award

Telll me any other banker from the US Germany etc who has such reputation.

Bankers are conservative by nature ,They do not do OSCARS

so in the case of Sanusi rather than focus on his bogus award.

Tell us in a very short sentence

ONE THING SANUSI ACHIEVED

JUST ONE

QuotaSystem:
You should be ashamed of the bolded, blind generalizations and bigoted stereotypes are the hallmarks of the unlearned, so you're unwittingly defeating your own point by suggesting you're intellectually superior to every northerner on earth. Apparently this psychotic delusion of grandeur is not limited to the east.

With regard to Sanusi's achievement, I'm sure you're capable of basic research into the revolutionary banking reforms he oversaw, although I'll not make the mistake of holding my breath waiting for you to acknowledge his strides, considering you have established your prejudice and limited exposure by alleging his awards and honours from TIME, Forbes and The Banker as "procured and bogus". [/b]

0monnak0da:



Yes my academic background is indeed way above average.I am proud of that and to that extent I can beat my chest and repeat "the day has not come when an Aboki would lecture me." That is the bitter truth. Maybe if I wanted to study Hausa Arabic or Islamic Studies which won't happen
The standards we have are very different.

If you were a thinking person you would not focus on the proxy Time Award but ask what did he do to achieve the award.

I can tell you for free: Propaganda. He bought cheap publicity and made a lot of noise. Thaat is the simple truth.
Many of the things Time Magazine credited him with had either happened before he got into officce or quite simply were beyond the purview of the CBN governor

You see exactly what I am talking about Mr Aboki.

It should be " EMBOLDENED" not the BOLDED.

That is just an unpardonable solecism. If anyone was to do a lecture it would be me.


Like I said tell us what Sanusi achieved ,(One thing) and you have come up with a procured award founded on LIES.

Are you afraid to articulate it yourself. Why quoting TIME .

Tell us one thing he did

Did Sanusi have the power to order mergers of banks?

Tell us which banks merged under Sanusi

All the mergers are happened under Soludo. That was when the consolidation took place so save that lie for Time Magazine or CNN .

The CBN governor does not have the powers you credited to him. Those are political government functions and the proper credit for consolidation in the industry should go to Obasanjo's government because that is when they happened

The truth is Sanusi was disgraced out of office. He went to court and then quietly withdrew the case.
He is the only CBN governor to be so disgraaced in our history
The truth is Sanusi started DONATING money to his kin in Kano an unprecedented action for a CBN governor
The CBN governor ,not just in Nigera but all over the world is not a role for achieving awards .
The CBN governor does not have control over fiscal policy and so the credit gven to Sanusi is just fraudulent.

The truth is the man was an attention seeking egotistic politician who used propaganda to procure a dubious award.
All of them Okonjo-Iweala, Soludo and so on have been winning awards all over the place. That does not fool anybody.

Rather than point at the award tell us . WHAT DID DE DO . Keep it simple List only ONE THNG please

How can you with a straight face claim Sanusi ordered bank mergers. Can forced bank mergers occur without legislation. Who made the legislation and when? How can credit for that be given to any CBN governor? Have you ever lived anywhere outside Nigeria?
How often do you hear the names of the CBN governors anywhere the way we heard Sanusi's name?
The guy obviously wanted to use the office as a political platform but the reality is he did not have the authority to do the things now attributed to him or to donate money to his Kano people as he did and he was suspended and disgraced out of office.

The primary function of the CBN is a collegiate one not a function of the governor personally i.e Monetary policy.

QuotaSystem:
Olodo...bolded is now the simple past participle of the word "bold" and is acknowledged globally. Do your homework.

You see, pride always comes before a fall. This your misplaced delusion of intellectual superiority is what has ensured you've been outsmarted politically since the days of Afonja in the hands of Aboki. You're just a noisy empty barrel which is why you've been shouting about your mediocre education that will pale to nothingness beside my British honours degrees. I'm not a braggart but you need to be put in your place.

Like I said regarding Emir Sanusi, if I were to hold my breath waiting for you to agree with TIME + Forbes and acknowledge his exploits, I'd be stone dead by now because your inherent bias and established prejudice renders you incapable of objective judgement.

Goodbye, you will be ignored henceforth unless you plan to start paying me tuition.

Alexk2:

you still don't get it. states with highest cut-offs are still well ahead in terms of the number of students that qualifies. The high cut-off mark is only not to overblow the capacity of those unity schools and not to shortchange any state or region...

0monnak0da:



Yes my academic background is indeed way above average.I am proud of that and to that extent I can beat my chest and repeat "the day has not come when an Aboki would lecture me." That is the bitter truth. Maybe if I wanted to study Hausa Arabic or Islamic Studies which won't happen
The standards we have are very different.

If you were a thinking person you would not focus on the proxy Time Award but ask what did he do to achieve the award.

I can tell you for free: Propaganda. He bought cheap publicity and made a lot of noise. Thaat is the simple truth.
Many of the things Time Magazine credited him with had either happened before he got into officce or quite simply were beyond the purview of the CBN governor

You see exactly what I am talking about Mr Aboki.

It should be " EMBOLDENED" not the BOLDED.

That is just an unpardonable solecism. If anyone was to do a lecture it would be me.


Like I said tell us what Sanusi achieved ,(One thing) and you have come up with a procured award founded on LIES.

Are you afraid to articulate it yourself. Why quoting TIME .

Tell us one thing he did

Did Sanusi have the power to order mergers of banks?

Tell us which banks merged under Sanusi

All the mergers are happened under Soludo. That was when the consolidation took place so save that lie for Time Magazine or CNN .

The CBN governor does not have the powers you credited to him. Those are political government functions and the proper credit for consolidation in the industry should go to Obasanjo's government because that is when they happened

The truth is Sanusi was disgraced out of office. He went to court and then quietly withdrew the case.
He is the only CBN governor to be so disgraaced in our history
The truth is Sanusi started DONATING money to his kin in Kano an unprecedented action for a CBN governor
The CBN governor ,not just in Nigera but all over the world is not a role for achieving awards .
The CBN governor does not have control over fiscal policy and so the credit gven to Sanusi is just fraudulent.

The truth is the man was an attention seeking egotistic politician who used propaganda to procure a dubious award.
All of them Okonjo-Iweala, Soludo and so on have been winning awards all over the place. That does not fool anybody.

Rather than point at the award tell us . WHAT DID DE DO . Keep it simple List only ONE THNG please

How can you with a straight face claim Sanusi ordered bank mergers. Can forced bank mergers occur without legislation. Who made the legislation and when? How can credit for that be given to any CBN governor? Have you ever lived anywhere outside Nigeria?
How often do you hear the names of the CBN governors anywhere the way we heard Sanusi's name?
The guy obviously wanted to use the office as a political platform but the reality is he did not have the authority to do the things now attributed to him or to donate money to his Kano people as he did and he was suspended and disgraced out of office.

The primary function of the CBN is a collegiate one not a function of the governor personally i.e Monetary policy.

NafeesaAA:
I repeat, the unity school is not a school for the academically gifted.

You obviously do not know that a high cut off is a function of high scores by candidates from their respective states.

I'll try to simplify the process of determining cut off marks to you. I'm not saying it is word perfect, but it suffices.

If Anambra has a slot for 25 and the least score of the 1st 25 is 60, then cut-off becomes 60 for Anambra to fill its own quota.
If Sokoto has a slot for 25 and the least score of the 1st 25 is 15, then the cut-off becomes 15 for Sokoto to fill its own quota.

Pleease, please and please, how has Sokoto cheated Anambra when Anambra fixed its own high scores by internal competition between fellow Anambrarians for their state slot, and by virtue of its academic superiority to Sokoto?

Chukazu:


I got everything.

The question also is why don't the federal government use quota system to balance the appointment of service chiefs in the military and para- military?

Why do they always use it to favor the North and undermine the East?

Alexk2:

now you're derailing from this primary issue here..meanwhile, I'm equally worried about the inequalities in the appointments by the fg but stop being sentimental; SS, SW, NC and SE are all affected not just the east pls....even some states in NW where the president come from are bitterly complaining over maginalization.

Chukazu:


No. It's just the East that is affected the most , check your fact .
I didn't just mention service Chiefs, I also talked about para- military . every other region is represented apart South East
I don't know what sentiment got to do with demand for fairness and equity ?

Do you really think the North would accept a president of Igbo extraction or Southerner appointing service Chiefs without a Northern content?

Alexk2:

I'm excitedly replying you bumper to bumper cos of your matured response; thanks.
Meanwhile, I'm not sure if it's true that the SE are the most affect cos I don't have "all" the facts needed to arrive at such conclusion...nontheless, I know very well that buhari appointments accross board is way too biased and unfair in every sense but mind you, I'll personally won't care at all if his govt have been living to expectation and working to make Nigeria great.
About you first question, the north don't have to like or accept an igbo president as long as that is what the majority want (through the ballot)....same way some dislike/reject buhari but the majority spoke at the ballot.
What you should worry about is the nature of politics been played by an average SE politicians(I'll call it local champion politics if you permit me). You can play that type of politics and win all states in you domain but never can it win a presidential election. While other geopolitical zones are forming alliances with each other, SE seems to be sleeping and sometimes like it happen in 2015, they'll put their eggs in one basket. No matter what is been promised and whoever made the promise, an igbo president cannot happen in Nigeria until southeast politicians change the game and embras others/Nigeria sincerly. Politics is a game of wit my brother.

Chukazu:


This is completely erroneous.i don't know how we make up this assumptions.

South East politics has always tilted towards the center, please check your facts.

And South East has always formed alliance more than you can imagine.even more so South East have had better partnership with the North more than any other southern region.

First and second republic government was between South East and North...in Leadership of TAFAWA BELEWA AND AZIKIWE; SHEHU SHAGARI AND ALEX EKWUEME.

Even in military we had Ebitu Ukaiwe and IBB.

This is the first time we are having an opposition party in government and South East duly voted for the ruling party PDP... Don't forget that ALEX EKWUEME was largely instrumental to the formation of PDP but he was schemed out of the party making way for OBASANJO and South West.

So nobody should use that"over flogged argument" of South East politics to deceive us.

The South East had their doubt about Buhari's Nepotism as a leader, that was why they never voted for him...and true to that concerns, Buhari has shown that the South East was right after all by not voting him and APC through his actions and utterances.

For a leader (supposed father of the nation ) to open his mouth and call and entire region "5% " shows how callous a person his is .
So we put our eggs in basket ,it was certainly the right basket.

Throwback:


At the end of the day, I made a factual point that turned their joy to sorrow. While you are gloating about an Igbo ICC president in 2018 that is inferior, we Yorubas already had a superior World Court/ICJ President in 1982 without making noise.

No proud Igbo has been able to meet up to the challenge I gave when your fellow clansman made an outlandish claim that while Igbos were receiving education, Yorubas were illiterate farmers.

I first reminded the clown that Igbos did not even have a secondary school until 1925, many decades after many towns had secondary schools.

Then came my challenge that he-she clown should name 10 Igbo Lawyers and 10 Igbo Doctors contributing to the growth of Igboland before 1900, while I will name 20 of each discipline for the Yorubas before 1900.

I was forced to reduce it to 5each, and then later just 3 university graduates in Igboland as at 1900, just so that the clown can save face and redeem some pride.

Till today, no single boastful Igbo has been able to meet up to a challenge that is mission impossible. Considering that there were many Yoruba Lawyers, Doctors, Engineers and even a Mathematics university graduate before same 1900, who I reckon were the illiterate farmers at a time the Igbos were already advancing in an imaginary education.

I hereby throw you the very same challenge but to mention just 2 Igbo university graduates in Igboland as at 1900, seeing you are also a proud, boastful and delusional Igbo.