eldee:

Groupie (n):
Synonyms - Chiogo, fanatic, teeny-bopper, buff.

A young woman, involved in obsessive adoration of entertainers such as musicians, actors, athletes, and even political figures. Behaviors are juvenile and influenced oftentimes by crush-like emotions or lustful sentiments, and often infringe the rights of the figure experiencing the attentions of a frenzied fanatic.

Also ignores simple facts like the minor flaws of their favourite celebrities.

This is how people fail exams. You were asked to look up 'sarcasm' and you went looking up your word. FAIL!!
But wow! the dictionary has my name in it, how cool!! 

I wonder who I'm a groupie to. . . .I have a crush on Jay-Z?? **Dies** Or is it Drake? Who did I 'adore' on this thread? You stay making zero sense.
Well, I understand you making stuff up to save face after all it is a "teenybopper" who called you out on your BS. You'll get over it, though.

eldee:

There are good rappers and then there are those that are out to steal your shine.
J. Cole is of em. . .

Isn't J. Cole a 'good rapper'? If he wasn't a good rapper would you be worried about him stealing your shine? This type of thinking doesn't help hip-hop. Around when Nas dropped Illmatic, EVERYONE wanted to collabo with him. Wu, Mobb Deep, Dr. Dre, etc. Yeah, avoid hungry rappers. Bullsh!t.

Help a lil' nigga from the Ville get some shine. Give the upcoming rappers a chance. Being with a real good rapper inspires you. You want to hold your own. You don't want to be brushed aside.
Jay wouldn't have spit fire on the Watcher 2 if he didn't feel threatened by Rakim. We heard the wack stuff he had on that same album. Neither would he have spit fire on Brooklyn's Finest or Black Republicans.

If you want a good rapper, get The Game or sumn, not this hungry upstart whose main objective in life is to outshine your arse like Eminem did back in the days.

Why did Talib Kweli feature Mos Def (good rapper) BOTH Jay Elect and J. Cole (hungry rappers)? He made a dope joint and was owned by at least TWO of them. Yeah, he should go and kill himself.

oh, and btw, so even hungry upstarts shouldn't feature themselves? Well thank God not everyone thinks like you, or else we wouldn't have had Mos/Talib or Life's a B!atch.

@hax
You're making it sound like it's a crime to be trashed on a track.
I don't need a hiphop history lesson to tell me that being with a good rapper inspires you.
I did mention Rick Ross holding his ground against Nas didn't I??

Now if you're going to feature a rapper like Eminem on a track, you know it's going to make the song better, but you also know there's a chance that you'll get outshined on the song . . . some people are ready to take the risk, cool.

You yourself talked about J.Cole tearing Jay-Z apart on A Star is Born, isn't Blueprint III still the biggest rap album of last year??
Stop making a mountain out of a molehill abeg, people get murked on songs, it's talked about for ages, but it doesn't take anything away from anyone, but to say we need to stop discussing it is plain B.S.

Collabo battles are among the most heavily discussed topics in hiphop, it takes more than you to take it away.
Now if Drake does a collabo with J. Cole, he will most likely get trashed, and that might be the end of all the talk about who's better . . . and it will most definitely be discussed, there's nothing wrong with that.

PLAGIARISED FREAKS! especially eldee

chiogo:

This is how people fail exams. You were asked to look up 'sarcasm' and you went looking up your word. FAIL!!
But wow! the dictionary has my name in it, how cool!! 

I wonder who I'm a groupie to. . . .I have a crush on Jay-Z?? **Dies** Or is it Drake? Who did I 'adore' on this thread? You stay making zero sense.
Well, I understand you making stuff up to save face after all it is a "teenybopper" who called you out on your BS. You'll get over it, though.

Hehehe . . . you actually think I take you serious?? More deluded than I thought.
You, kay2900 and hax said share the same point of view, compare my replies to both of you

Anywayz . . . there are different traits of a groupie in my definition, pick the one that best suits you.

Mobinga:

PLAGIARISED FREAKS! especially eldee

WOW!!! I'll take that as a compliment.

@hax

I'm not going to let this lead into one of those long topics where the basis of the whole debate is lost.

Some rappers don't like getting owned on tracks, J.Cole has publicly come out to say that he wouldn't let himself get murked, LL Cool J famously rewrote his verse in order not to get murked on a track, Nas used Renegade as his one of the few punchlines on Ether . . . people talk about them, I don't know what exactly you're getting at.
Even songs like Run This Town where all three verses were self-service, everyone came out to say Kanye killed it.

Most collaborations are friendly battles, I don't care if you don't see it like that, most rappers do, most fans do, most critics do too.
Nine times out of ten most rappers would rather they beat the Eminems and J. Coles on tracks, and nine times of of ten it turns out to be a better song, but that doesn't remove the fact that you got owned on that track.

Nigeria beating Brazil in 96 doesn't make us better than them, but does that mean it won't be discussed at length??
You're just making a big thing out of sumn you can't change . . .

You justifying the fact that you talked about A Star is Born is hilarious in itself, it's almost like you're sorry for doing it . . . I'm not pissed with you son.

If Drake kills J. Cole on that track, it will always be brought up anytime someone brings up the topic of who's better.
Each time Nas' compared to anyone, people always bring up The Firm.

Cole fixed Jay z on a star is born but thats no big deal. You know Jay z is so good now that if he features anybody he(jay z) will be killed. Cudi woulda have killed him had he rap on 'Already gone'. Cassidy killed him on 'cold as ice'. If he does a collabo with ruggedman he will also get murked. Its time we got used to Jay z getting killed on a track!

Drake wont dare.
It's a big game he playin'
Like he reachin out to the dude Cole.
They both kno there's a subliminal rivalry btw them,
and Drake is smart enuff not to allow Cold Cole ice up the present flamy fame he got.
The catch of wat Drake said there was "i hope they willin"
eventually d collabo wont go down,or maybe t'will have just the other dude,and the
conclusion will be that Coldcole wasnt available-which pple will read as he aint WILLING.

And yea J.cole Renegaded Jay Z on that track!

oNe