TayserMahiri:
What is even the point of praying. Isnt God so awesome he knows exactly what you are thinking and want ?

I usually dont pray because God might tell me arghh dude I know all that am working on it !

Muafrika2:


You are on point.

Prayer is necessitated by the fact that we have opposition . Three are powers of this world continually petitioning God against you. Just as in the case of Job ...

TayserMahiri:


No sis. There are no powers actively petitioning God. Thats only a belief. However, if you believe in such then you see everything in that sense. Even when you pray for the stain in your dress to go away and it doesnt after washing, you will see it as powers working against you. The truth is that prayer does not do ANYTHING. NOTHING. A prayer is as useless as nipples in men. Its only function is to be reassuring and give hope. Not bad, but I wish christians could understand that and stop asking foolish questions. No one listens to prayers. And we can test that. Thats why most people find themselves asking the question of your topic. An then they have to do with a response as bogus as you gave in the original post Your answer was just some meaningless point. Anyone who wanted a response to that question was left like whaaa? Hio nayo ni kusema nn?

Muafrika2:

I don't think you believe what you wrote.

I don't believe in atheism. Its just a idealism that most atheists have decided to propagate for whatever reason. The need to hate God maybe.

Sure, some people are yet to encounter God and they are searching, but atheism? No.

Muafrika2:
TayserMahiri

Not militant? That's exactly what you exude. And why am convinced your atheism is driven by hate.

I don't really engage with the God is there/not there debates coz I think it's a waste of time.

Muafrika2:
People ask themselves this question all the time.

The real question is; is there any thought in your head that is hidden from God?

Why then, would you convince yourself, that it's hidden from God, when that thought happens to be a prayer?

Food for thought ...

bloodofthelamb:


God still hears and answers prayer... When you think and speak according to His good will in Christ. He will answer.

TayserMahiri:


God then doesnt hear and answer prayers from anyone who is not in christ according to your narrow view. All the traditionalists, hindus, Budhists etc have no one to answer their prayers.

bloodofthelamb:


The prayer of a sinner is a "taboo" to the LORD.

Demonic spirits are there to answer now. "If there is no light, there must be darkness."

Doctufos: Homo Sapiens III 15: 12-17

12. Sacrifices are useless and prayers are for
the weak. But he who wants to be great will use
his head to think deep, be his own god and do
good to his fellow human beings.
13. Let everyone know that demons are not
universally real, but they are created by the
minds of the fearful ones and they are tormented
alone by them.
14. Therefore let no one make you fear such that
you unconsciously create a demon of them in
your mind.
15. And you see that which you have created
appearing to you in your dreams daily, then you
say, this demon is my tormentor.
16. Meditate when solution seems not to be at
hand and refrain from the worship of the gods.
17. For no god answers prayers except by
coincidence.

TayserMahiri:


Any examples of those non-sinners whose prayers impress God? Are you one of them?

OtemAtum:

Muafrika2:

True Christians don't worship gods. Only one, through his son. That's why we say prayers in the name of Jesus.

The gods are actually what we call the demons. You write about many of them in your stories ...

OtemAtum:


The gods are not demons. Demons don't exist except in your heads and imaginations. For example, Yahweh, one of the gods and Allah, one of the gods are not demons. They are just mere creations of God Almighty.

TayserMahiri:


No sis. There are no powers actively petitioning God. Thats only a belief. However, if you believe in such then you see everything in that sense. Even when you pray for the stain in your dress to go away and it doesnt after washing, you will see it as powers working against you. The truth is that prayer does not do ANYTHING. NOTHING. A prayer is as useless as nipples in men. Its only function is to be reassuring and give hope. Not bad, but I wish christians could understand that and stop asking foolish questions. No one listens to prayers. And we can test that. Thats why most people find themselves asking the question of your topic. An then they have to do with a response as bogus as you gave in the original post Your answer was just some meaningless point. Anyone who wanted a response to that question was left like whaaa? Hio nayo ni kusema nn?

bloodofthelamb:


Those who have receive the gift of righteousness through faith have gone from being sinners to being the righteousness of The Living God.

For we in Christ our prayer is a delight to God.

Muafrika2:

True Christians don't worship gods. Only one, through his son. That's why we say prayers in the name of Jesus.

The gods are actually what we call the demons. You write about many of them in your stories ...

TayserMahiri:

lol, classic 'garbage in garbage out'. You said nothing

bloodofthelamb:


I did not expect you to understand spiritual realities and truth. sorry!

bloodofthelamb:


I did not expect you to understand spiritual realities and truth. sorry!

Muafrika2:

@Tayser

What he said, ^^

TayserMahiri:


Meaning?

Muafrika2:

You're just a troll trying hard to convince us you are an atheist. If you feel the need to insult Christians and show obvious contempt toward God, you don't have to engage in a pretend discussion. Just open a thread and knock yourself out. Se.un won't mind.

TayserMahiri:

What reality and what truth?

TayserMahiri:


Why dont you believe what I wrote? cus im not too militant? If so, Its just that I appreciate that many people need gods in their lives as has been the case for millenia. Not that I believe an iota of religion, except maybe love and a few other shyt, which I dont need religion to have anyway. For me it comes from a deeper sense than any god would demand. And I dont think anything surpasses that, even God, if he existed, would be awed by such a deep sense of good that comes from within, and not from some fake promise of heaven or punishment in hell.
You cant believe in atheism because you are a christian. In some sense its the same way an atheist does not understand how christians cant smell the bulsht in their religion. There is that cognitive dissonance.
A christian believes the existence of God is unquestionable/obvious while an atheist thinks thats nonsense, if the premise for it is just faith/belief. Like, a christian says there is God, then an atheist asks him, how do you know that? Then the christian says I believe it. Very bad !

Atheists dont hate God/ gods (at least thats the case for me). However, when God is used to propagate nonsense, like to attack science or to drive bigotry, then I usually (and most atheists do) get merciless on God and his fans! An example is Bishop Boniface Adoyo who led a futile campaign to have fossils not displayed at the national museum because evolution does not support God. Really, God in such a case has to be shown to be what he is, a creature fearful of being busted.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2006/sep/10/theobserver.kenya

shadeyinka:


1. Many Christians don't just "claim a believe" in God but they have personal subjective experiences to back it up.
2. Christians know that God isn't Physical in nature, that is why no one can bring Him into a laboratory to scrutinize Him
3. Prayers isn't just for Asking. Prayers is for Praise, Adoration, Confession, Thanksgivings etc
4. No Christian can force the hands of God either in prayers or from some other activity.

If we are to force scientific reasoning to the question of the existence of God, we would arrive that God does intact exist. The question then would be WHO is this God!

1. Our Universe has a beginning
2. The scientific Laws of nature originated after this Origin
3. Laws cannot create them self
4. Laws are useless without coordination of the laws into systems
5. If the Universe had a beginning, what initiated it?
6. The evidence of design is too great to be ignored. For life would be impossible without it
7. Instinct in animals show that they have been preprogrammed.
8 A program code can never write/assemble itself by chance. It takes intelligence to assemble a program code.
9. Whoever/Whatever initiated the Universe must not be subject to the laws he created.

If the answer can be proved as Yes to this 9 question, then God does exist.

The proper question should be Who is this God who created everything.

Atheism is first a personal choice just as Theism is a personal choice.

■ People ask themselves this question all the time. The real question is; is there any thought in your head that is hidden from God? Why then, would you convince yourself, that it's hidden from God, when that thought happens to be a prayer? Food for thought ...