Response to Pastor Chris Oyakhilome about eating in the dream

By

Biodun Adeyanju

Pastor @ Champions Church

biodunadeyanju1@gmail.com

08055212130



We know in parts and we prophesy in part.(1Cor.13:9) While Pastor Chris is a man of God that I deeply love and respect (someone I look up to) the mystery of eating in the dream is far beyond the submission of the MOG on this subject matter

First, Pastor Chris quoted (Acts 10:9-15) as the only place in the scripture where God fed people in the dream.


It is good for us to know that the vision that Peter had did not come through dreams, but through a spiritual medium of communication called trance. There is a clear wall of differences between these two spiritual experiences. (Num.24:4-6; Acts10:10).The interpretation of this spiritual phenomenon was a message about the inclusion of the Gentiles in the plan of redemption. God was using this message to kill the discrimination mindset in the heart of Peter against non-Jewish nations( Acts11:5-12). It is therefore not a dream neither does it have anything to do with Satan. However, God can use dreams as channels of communication if He pleases to do so.(Gen.20:3; 31:11; Matt.2; Acts2:17-21)

Also, the use of Isaiah 29: 7-9 by Pastor Chris was completely taken out of context. Let us look at what these verses say and interpret them accurately and accordingly

And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel,
even all that fight against her
and her munition, and that distress her, shall be as a dream of a night vision.
It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold, he eateth;
but he awaketh, and his soul is empty:
or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh;
but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite:so shall the multitude of all the nations be,that fight against mount Zion.


Ariel signifies bravery and courage, the character traits of a Lion. These character profiles typify the dominion or the leadership qualities of a tribe called Judah who occupied the city of Jerusalem at that time.(Gen.49: 8-12). God was using the dream in question as an allegory to explain how the enemies or the confederate of nations that stood against Jerusalem were going to be defeated. For instance, just like eating in the dream does not replace physical appetite when one wakes up, so also, the evil machinations of these nations will not come to material reality. It is like having strategies without having the power to execute them.

These verses I must say, do not in anyway portend or deny the reality of eating in the dream as figment of human imagination. Bible did not say that sir. (2Tim.2:15) God was using an allegory (Gal.4:24) to represent the defeat of the enemy in Isaiah29:7-9

Having said these, Christians must know that faith does not deny the fact, but rather, it only establishes the wholesome truth. (Jn.8:32) We cannot establish the victory of the cross against the enemy, if we do not know the strength and the weaknesses of the enemy we are dealing with. (2Cor.2:11)

Satan we must understand, is a spiritual entity that uses tactics and subtlety to defeat his opponents. He specializes in using diplomacy rather than military campaign to hold his enemies captive. (Gen.3:1-4; 2Cor.11:3) This adversary also locates his victim through ignorance(2Cor.2:11). Satan works by consistent strategy from the beginning (1Jn.3:. He is very adhering in his approach to defeat man. For instance, if we could recognize that Adam lost dominion through the eating of a forbidden fruit, which is food, it is suffice to say that Satan still uses the same tactics today to rob people of their glorious destinies in Christ. (Gen.3:1-3). No wonder, Jesus the last Adam introduced communion as one of the tools or weapons of destroying the works of the devil in the lives of the saints. Communion remits sins; the principal weapon of Satan that manipulates and establishes the defeat of man in the pursuit of his endeavors (1Jn3:8; Matt.26:26;1Cor.11:23-end).

To buttress the power of nutrition as a medium of spiritual transactions, when Abraham gave tithe to Melchizedek, it was wine and bread that the this priest of Salem used to strike the covenant of universal possession with Jewish progenitor. (Gen.14:18-20). Food therefore is a vital force of enacting and sealing covenant in Biblical and ancient days (Gen.26:26) Even David the man of God acknowledged that the strength of a natural man is traceable to the content of his physical and spiritual nutrition (Psa.103:4; Jn6:48-53).

The word of God in the New Testament also recognizes the table of the devil; the nutritional contents deployed by the forces of darkness to transmit misfortune into the lives of men.(1Cor.10:21; Lk.4:2)

How does Satan administer this table?

Please know that Satan is called the anti-Christ or the exact opposite of Christ. He uses the existing laws of God that he perverts to take advantage of man 1Jn2:22;4:3). The laws of God are universal laws. (Heb.11:3) It is available and accessible to all sundries. Whatever is written is available to all; both for doctrinal formation and for mystical applications .(Matt.4:6;1Tim.4:1-2) Satan often takes advantages of these laws to afflict both Christians and no-Christians a like. (Matt.4:6; Job1:8- 10; Gen.3:1-5)

For instance, If God could feed people with their own flesh and blood in warfare, (Isa.49:24-26) If God could use food as a prophetic symbol in dreams (Gen.41:1-endIf God could appear to man in dreams and seal his ears with instructions (Job 33:15-17; Gen.20:3) who says that Satan cannot do the-same? (Lk.4:2)

Jesus whose name is called the truth exposed the operation of Satan through the vision of the night that comes through sleep. “While men slept, the enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat” Dream invasion is a channel that Satan uses to plant his evil seeds in people’s lives. Satan often uses the state of unconsciousness or dreams to plant evil seeds in people’s lives. (Matt.4:2; 13:25).

Regardless of the antics and manipulations of Satan, I must reiterate this fact that Christians have authority to destroy the works of the devil (1Jn3:8; Lk.10:18-30; Eph.4:27; 2:6-8; 1:20-end). There is nothing Satan can bring into your life that the power in the name of Jesus and His blood cannot destroy. Jesus has given us the communion as an antidote of whatever you eat in the dream (Jn.6:48-53; 2King4:39-41). We don’t need to fear at all, all we need to do is to exercise our authority over the forces of darkness.

Neither Jesus nor His disciples denied the existence and devices of Satan and his demons. Thanks be to God who causes us to triumph over the works of darkness 2Cor.2:11,14; 1Jn5:4; 2Tim.1:7-9)

To say therefore that eating in the dream is just a figment of ones imagination cannot be 100% correct. One needs to discern and allow the Holy Spirit to give the exact interpretation of what is going on in the realms of the unseen; a realm too deep for one mind to comprehend. There’s no omniscient man, otherwise, God won’t be necessary (1Sam16:6-7).

In conclusion, i encourage Christians to be seekers of truth by searching scriptures themselves. Spiritual maturity comes with deliberate hard work. Lastly, let's not forget the warning to be sober and vigilant in 1Peter 5:8. Eph.4:14; 2Tim3:15

Shalom.

Some matters of spirituality should be left by pastors as it it's not everything that needs interpretation from their own ideas.

IMHO this is spot on!

lalasticlacla as e dey hot...make we drop am on Sunday!

Please this shouldn't be seen as an affront against Pastor Chris but as an opportunity for us to grow more in grace as we search more into Gods words!

God bless us all!

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Response to Pastor Chris Oyakhilome about eating in the dream

By

Biodun Adeyanju

Pastor @ Champions Church

biodunadeyanju1@gmail.com

08055212130



We know in parts and we prophesy in part.(1Cor.13:9) While Pastor Chris is a man of God that I deeply love and respect (someone I look up to) the mystery of eating in the dream is far beyond the submission of the MOG on this subject matter

there are no scriptural evidence to this your assertion. Rather, the scripture affirms that all power have been given to the believer. That simply means there is nothing beyond the power of the believer, you already know this. Pastor Chris is a believer. It's not possible that there is any mystery in eating of dreams in the first place. It's just simply dream that's all, there is nothing to be afraid of.

First, Pastor Chris quoted (Acts 10:9-15) as the only place in the scripture where God fed people in the dream.
It is good for us to know that the vision that Peter had did not come through dreams, but through a spiritual medium of communication called trance.
There is a clear wall of differences between these two spiritual experiences. (Num.24:4-6; Acts10:10).

from your analysis, pastor Chris never saw Peters vision as a trance but a dream, let's say you are right here

Also, the use of Isaiah 29: 7-9 by Pastor Chris was completely taken out of context. Let us look at what these verses say and interpret them accurately and accordingly

It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold, he eateth;
but he awaketh, and his soul is empty:
or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh;
but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite:so shall the multitude of all the nations be,that fight against mount Zion.

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So, in what way pastor Chris took this scripture out of context? Like you said, the scripture was used as an allegory to explain how the enemies stood against Jerusalem, the allegory still applies to real life situation. When one eats or drinks in the dream as a hungry man he wakes up to meet himself in that hungry state inspite the fact that he ate in the dream. Meaning, eating in the dream has no effect to the human physical body in anyway or what evidence does he have that he ate in the dream?
If it cannot affect the physical body how then can eating in dream affect the spirit?
Do you understand what it means for someone to start mentioning spirit? That means it has nothing to do with this physical world.
Remember, Jesus told Nicodemus I'm telling you physical things you are not understanding, how then will you understand when i tell you spiritual things? John 3:12.
It must affect the physical first for people to see before you can say that the spiritual exist, it's as simple as that.
It's like you are going to court of law without evidence, no one will listen to you.

For instance, just like eating in the dream does not replace physical appetite when one wakes up, so also, the evil machinations of these nations will not come to material reality. It is like having strategies without having the power to execute them.

this your statement is very correct, exactly what I'm talking about. You are getting the truth but it seems at your otherside, you are allowing sentimental beliefs of spirits being powerful than reality this real world dominates your general beliefs.
The reality is, dreams are simply dreams and should be treated as such, nothing more.

We cannot establish the victory of the cross against the enemy, if we do not know the strength and the weaknesses of the enemy we are dealing with. (2Cor.2:11)

you are not getting that 2cor2:11 right. It was not talking about christians trying to establish the victory on the cross. The victory on the cross was already established by Christ right from the very day he said IT IS FINISH. Rather, it was saying that christians should forgive(if you read the previous verses).that forgiving whoever is the way not to be ignorant of the device of the devil .

Satan we must understand, is a spiritual entity that uses tactics and subtlety to defeat his opponents. He specializes in using diplomacy rather than military campaign to hold his enemies captive. (Gen.3:1-4; 2Cor.11:3) This adversary also locates his victim through ignorance(2Cor.2:11). Satan works by consistent strategy from the beginning (1Jn.3:. He is very adhering in his approach to defeat man. For instance, if we could recognize that Adam lost dominion through the eating of a forbidden fruit, which is food, it is suffice to say that Satan still uses the same tactics today to rob people of their glorious destinies in Christ. (Gen.3:1-3)

all these are just simply hyping the powerless devil, geared at making believers to afraid of the devil and afraid of the unknown so that they will have reasons to go to church perhaps for deliverance all the time. It's a satanic thing to do

No wonder, Jesus the last Adam introduced communion as one of the tools or weapons of destroying the works of the devil in the lives of the saints. Communion remits sins; the principal weapon of Satan that manipulates and establishes the defeat of man in the pursuit of his endeavors (1Jn3:8; Matt.26:26;1Cor.11:23-end).

so what's the relationship between communion and eating in the dream?
How does they correlate

To buttress the power of nutrition as a medium of spiritual transactions, when Abraham gave tithe to Melchizedek, it was wine and bread that the this priest of Salem used to strike the covenant of universal possession with Jewish progenitor. (Gen.14:18-20). Food therefore is a vital force of enacting and sealing covenant in Biblical and ancient days (Gen.26:26) Even David the man of God acknowledged that the strength of a natural man is traceable to the content of his physical and spiritual nutrition (Psa.103:4; Jn6:48-53).

I don't see any correlation with all these nutrition things with eating in the dream, you are propagating your personal fears
Let me cut it here, other things you wrote...
No head at all

We don’t need to fear at all, all we need to do is to exercise our authority over the forces of darkness

so, why are you now propagating your fears in the first place?

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It is good for us to know that the vision that Peter had did not come through dreams, but through a spiritual medium of communication called trance. There is a clear wall of differences between these two spiritual experiences. (Num.24:4-6; Acts10:10).The interpretation of this spiritual phenomenon was a message about the inclusion of the Gentiles in the plan of redemption. God was using this message to kill the discrimination mindset in the heart of Peter against non-Jewish nations( Acts11:5-12). It is therefore not a dream neither does it have anything to do with Satan. However, God can use dreams as channels of communication if He pleases to do so.(Gen.20:3; 31:11; Matt.2; Acts2:17-21)

For instance, if we could recognize that Adam lost dominion through the eating of a forbidden fruit, which is food, it is suffice to say that Satan still uses the same tactics today to rob people of their glorious destinies in Christ. (Gen.3:1-3).
Shalom.

Adding to what Paxonel has already said, dreams and trances are the same. Besides, the bone of contention is not whether God or the devil uses them as means to communicate but whether eating in dreams is of a spiritual negative consequence and the answer is no.

Second, Adam did not fall to satan because he ate food. That food after all was put there by God not satan. Adam fell because he disobeyed God and obeyed the devil. The bible says "you are a servant to the one you obey" and this is a spiritual law. So it had nothing to do with food. That is the same reason Jesus refused to turn stone to bread to eat when hungry. He later multiplied bread and ate while he fed people. Jesus only refused the request because it came from the devil.

I know you mean well through this post but you would only pass fear to yourself and other christians who are babes. And it is in an environment of fear that Satan thrives. Stay blessed.