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Fabricated Hadith: by Elbinawi: 10:01am On Sep 04, 2018
Fabricated Hadith:

On the day of judgment God will put His Foot in hell to push Evil doers and then it will say, 'Qat! Qat!'
~Bukhari V8 Book 78 p654

Dear Bukhari,

God does not have a leg like yours and mine. And why will God, the Almighty, put his "leg" in Hell Fire? Why? Where are the Angels responsible for Hell?

Bloodthirsty Wahhabi savages love fabricated Hadiths like this. They use these fabricated Hadiths to legalize murderous terrorism to slaughter the innocent in the name of Islam.

The Quran is the ultimate Book of guidance. Any Hadith that contradict the Quran should be burnt and discarded. The Holy Quran categorically condemned the killing of the innocent and symbolized it with the killing of the whole humanity.

Bloodthirsty Wahhabi savages who are allied to the West uses these fabricated Hadiths to excommunicate Muslims from Islam to legalize the shedding of their blood. Takfirism (excommunication) is the central pillar of evil Wahhabism.

Conclusion:

Dear Bukhari,

I will never worship a god that has a leg.

Thank You!

#ElbinawiTweets

Re: Fabricated Hadith: by Rashduct4luv(m): 11:44am On Sep 04, 2018
This is so cantankerous and preposterous of you.

All your posts are usually asinine. Well, what tantrums can you throw except to misinterpret text with your filthy reason?

We believe Allah has foots, hands , face and every other parts He mentioned (in Qur'an and Sunnah) and all those parts are not like that of any of His creations.

Maybe you need to start putting on your thinking cap and stop the hatred for anything "wahabi" related. Na Wahabophobia go kill shias sha!
Re: Fabricated Hadith: by Nobody: 7:07pm On Sep 04, 2018
Whoever says Allaah has legs like yours and mine(as you've said in your statement) has likened Allaah to his creation which is kufr since Allaah says "There is nothing like him". Whoever says Allaah does not have legs has also committed kufr because of the numerous proofs from the shareeah texts that says he has legs.

The ones who are upon the truth are those that affirms that he has legs without saying " it looks like yours and mine", without saying "he doesn't have at all" and not saying "how exactly does it look like".

What is expected of you is to believe he has legs and forget about what it looks like and how it is....


So dear op you lied on bukhari, it didn't say " it looks like yours and mine".

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Re: Fabricated Hadith: by Empiree: 3:25am On Sep 11, 2018
Albaqir don get banned again grin
Re: Fabricated Hadith: by submit: 8:08am On Sep 11, 2018
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Re: Fabricated Hadith: by submit: 8:14am On Sep 11, 2018
# Why would a sensible Muslim follow the hadith of a character (Abu Hurairah) who was highly suspected, accused and caught of lying? Is that verse of Quran not enough when Allah says He will most certainly fill hell with Satan and those that follow him?

# Whether Allah has a literal leg or metaphoric leg, whether His alleged leg is like human or not, why would He put his leg/foot into hell to fill it?
Re: Fabricated Hadith: by sino(m): 11:56am On Sep 11, 2018
submit:
# Why would a sensible Muslim follow the hadith of a character (Abu Hurairah) who was highly suspected, accused and caught of lying? Is that verse of Quran not enough when Allah says He will most certainly fill hell with Satan and those that follow him?
Why would a sensible Muslim hold opinion from a single source about another Muslim who happens to be dead and cannot defend himself and believe that such opinion is true?!

The hadith in question does not contradict the verse in any way, it is additional information with regards to the events of judgement day.


# Whether Allah has a literal leg or metaphoric leg, whether His alleged leg is like human or not, why would He put his leg/foot into hell to fill it?

Your understanding that Allah puts His leg/foot to fill hell is the problem, first, you haven't been able to stop yourself from anthropomorphic tendencies with regards to Allah's attributes, secondly, do you think the statement in the hadith means Allah's leg/foot would be burnt in hell?!

This question is like asking why Allah (SWT) says he created Adam (As) with both of His hands in the Qur'an (Q38:75). Your answer to the above question would help in answering your question appropriately.
Re: Fabricated Hadith: by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:42am On Sep 12, 2018
We ask Allah to grant us understanding and may He never lead us astray in any matter of Aqeedah!
Re: Fabricated Hadith: by AlBaqir(m): 8:55am On Sep 12, 2018
sino:

The hadith in question does not contradict the verse in any way, it is additional information with regards to the events of judgement day.



Your understanding that Allah puts His leg/foot to fill hell is the problem, first, you haven't been able to stop yourself from anthropomorphic tendencies with regards to Allah's attributes, secondly, do you think the statement in the hadith means Allah's leg/foot would be burnt in hell?!

This question is like asking why Allah (SWT) says he created Adam (As) with both of His hands in the Qur'an (Q38:75). Your answer to the above question would help in answering your question appropriately.


grin grin For the first time in donkey years, sino want us to rationalize the so-called hadith. Unfortunately, according to your manhaj, it must be treated LITERALLY.


# Al-Uthaymin (d. 1421 A.H) states:

"It is obligatory to leave the text of the Quran and the tradition upon their LITERAL MEANINGS without changing them at all, because God revealed the Quran in a clear, Arabic language and the Prophet spoke Arabic...The LITERAL MEANING of the verse is that God has two LITERAL HANDS. Therefore this must be affirmed for him."

Source: Muhammad ibn Salih al-Uthaymin, Majmu Fatawa wa Rasali, ed. by Fahd ibn Nasir  ibn Ibrahim al-Sulayman,  29 vols (Riyadh: Dar al-Watan, 1413 - 1431 AH), V (1414AH), 11-12



# Besides, there is no "fill in the gap" in the noble verse we've pointed out. The verse is crystal clear.  Allah who created man and Jinn knew their population; and He knew and created the size of hell that will fill their numbers. And He states clearly that "He will fill the hell with Satan and his troops from among men and jinn".

Therefore, it is preposterous to accept a pseudo information from a liar that hell will be crying "I am not yet filled up; I am still not satisfied; I need more" and that Allah's foot will fill the space.


# And you talk about we not getting anthropomorphic ideas out of our head. grin grin That's really funny.

Absolutely you are not accusing us of believing in that nonsense about God. You are simply "begging us" not to interpret the hadith or your tafasir towards that line.

Unfortunately, you cannot eat your cake and have it. Your Salafi ulama said it is OBLIGATORY for you to believe in the LITERAL MEANING of the text of the Quran and hadith (in opposition to other Ahlu Sunnah Ulama that believe in metaphoric meanings).

Meaning that:

* Salafi God has LITERAL two hands

* Salafi God has LITERAL leg(s)/foot

* Salafi God has LITERAL eyes, face and chin

* Salafi God is LITERALLY in the heavens and rose LITERALLY on the throne or chair

OR

Salafi God is LITERALLY above the heavens; and the ABOVE is not by the meaning of "status" but by the meaning of "height"; therefore, 7 heavens and earth are BELOW Him. Unfortunately, an hadith says in respect to Q.57:3 that: "nothing is above Him and nothing is Below Him" https://www.sunnah.com/tirmidhi/48/112

Yet, Salafi God is still ABOVE all things, as in height.

* Salafi God even LITERALLY descend to the lowest heavens to hear the prayers of His servants. A situation where He is IN-Between the heavens and the earth; that is, something is above Him and something below Him.

* And Salafi God created man LITERALLY in His own image. And that false book called Bible also states the same thing.


In short, LITERALISM of God points to no other meaning except ANTHROPOMORPHISM.
Re: Fabricated Hadith: by AlBaqir(m): 8:57am On Sep 12, 2018
Empiree:
Albaqir don get banned again grin

Am getting bored of nairaland antispam bot ban. seun should try and improve the website to accommodate lots of things (especially Arabic text).
Re: Fabricated Hadith: by AlBaqir(m): 9:18am On Sep 12, 2018
AbdelKabir:


The ones who are upon the truth are those that affirms that he has legs without saying " it looks like yours and mine", without saying "he doesn't have at all" and not saying "how exactly does it look like".

What is expected of you is to believe he has legs and forget about what it looks like and how it is....


# When your ulama said it is OBLIGATORY to believe in LITERAL MEANING of Quranic and Hadith texts, and your hadith via Abu Hurairah confirmed:


* that Allah LITERALLY created Adam in His own image
https://sunnah.com/muslim/45/152


* And another hadith says He has FIVE FINGERS ( https://sunnah.com/urn/44900 ) in addition to eyes, face, chin, leg, foot that MUST BE INTERPRETED LITERALLY.


Yet, you want us not to believe those features is like "yours and mine", then, you are either confused or deviating from LITERALISM of your ulama.

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Re: Fabricated Hadith: by Empiree: 11:00am On Sep 12, 2018
AlBaqir:


Am getting bored of nairaland antispam bot ban. seun should try and improve the website to accommodate lots of things (especially Arabic text).
Exactly. His antispam police is rascist against Arabic grin

Definitely should improve it
Re: Fabricated Hadith: by sino(m): 12:31pm On Sep 12, 2018
AlBaqir:



grin grin For the first time in donkey years, sino want us to rationalize the so-called hadith. Unfortunately, according to your manhaj, it must be treated LITERALLY.


# Al-Uthaymin (d. 1421 A.H) states:

"It is obligatory to leave the text of the Quran and the tradition upon their LITERAL MEANINGS without changing them at all, because God revealed the Quran in a clear, Arabic language and the Prophet spoke Arabic...The LITERAL MEANING of the verse is that God has two LITERAL HANDS. Therefore this must be affirmed for him."

Source: Muhammad ibn Salih al-Uthaymin, Majmu Fatawa wa Rasali, ed. by Fahd ibn Nasir  ibn Ibrahim al-Sulayman,  29 vols (Riyadh: Dar al-Watan, 1413 - 1431 AH), V (1414AH), 11-12



# Besides, there is no "fill in the gap" in the noble verse we've pointed out. The verse is crystal clear.  Allah who created man and Jinn knew their population; and He knew and created the size of hell that will fill their numbers. And He states clearly that "He will fill the hell with Satan and his troops from among men and jinn".

Therefore, it is preposterous to accept a pseudo information from a liar that hell will be crying "I am not yet filled up; I am still not satisfied; I need more" and that Allah's foot will fill the space.


# And you talk about we not getting anthropomorphic ideas out of our head. grin grin That's really funny.

Absolutely you are not accusing us of believing in that nonsense about God. You are simply "begging us" not to interpret the hadith or your tafasir towards that line.

Unfortunately, you cannot eat your cake and have it. Your Salafi ulama said it is OBLIGATORY for you to believe in the LITERAL MEANING of the text of the Quran and hadith (in opposition to other Ahlu Sunnah Ulama that believe in metaphoric meanings).

Meaning that:

* Salafi God has LITERAL two hands

* Salafi God has LITERAL leg(s)/foot

* Salafi God has LITERAL eyes, face and chin

* Salafi God is LITERALLY in the heavens and rose LITERALLY on the throne or chair

OR

Salafi God is LITERALLY above the heavens; and the ABOVE is not by the meaning of "status" but by the meaning of "height"; therefore, 7 heavens and earth are BELOW Him. Unfortunately, an hadith says in respect to Q.57:3 that: "nothing is above Him and nothing is Below Him" https://www.sunnah.com/tirmidhi/48/112

Yet, Salafi God is still ABOVE all things, as in height.

* Salafi God even LITERALLY descend to the lowest heavens to hear the prayers of His servants. A situation where He is IN-Between the heavens and the earth; that is, something is above Him and something below Him.

* And Salafi God created man LITERALLY in His own image. And that false book called Bible also states the same thing.


In short, LITERALISM of God points to no other meaning except ANTHROPOMORPHISM.
Rationalizing a narration for better understanding is not the same as giving different interpretation/translations for Allah's names and attributes, mind you, I always employ proper rational in explaining my understanding of any concept in the religion.

Write epistles from morning till night, it doesn't change the fact that my stand with regards to Allah's names and attributes is the same as those of the Prophets, the companions including the ahl-l-bayt (blessings of Allah be upon them all) which is affirmation without anthropomorphism. I had asked you to bring your evidence(s) for those you follow, wherein it is stated that you must interpret/translate these attributes CLEARLY STATED IN THE QUR'AN AND AUTHENTIC TRADITIONS (INCLUDING SHI'AH NARRATIONS) to mean different thing entirely, but up till now, you haven't!

Why not address my questions instead of this long story you are writing?! Did the narration suggests that Allah's leg/foot will be burnt in hell?! When Allah (SWT) used 2 hands in the Qur'an with regards to the creation of Adam (as), was it a mistake?! If you translate/interpret 2 hands to mean another thing, what is your evidence for such translation/interpretation? was it the Prophet (SAW)?! Was it Ali (ra)?! Did the Prophet (SAW) not teach the Qur'an the proper way to his companions, including the ahl-l-bayt?! Why is it so difficult for you to bring evidences for this translation/interpretation of yours from these aforementioned individuals?!

Back to the issue, I ask again how does the narration contradict the verse of the Qur'an?! Did the narration state that Allah (SWT) did not know the number of those who will fill hell? Does the verse say hell already knew the quantity of those that will fill it?! If the narration states that Allah (SWT) put His leg/foot in hell, and hell says enough, enough, in your weird understanding, it therefore means Allah's leg/foot is going to burn like the sinners in hell?! Are there no angels in hell?! Are they also in hell to fill hell and are being burnt in it?!

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