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Journalist Killed During Interrogation Inside Saudi Embassy In Turkey by quickly: 8:48pm On Oct 15, 2018
Journalist from Saudi in Turkey met his untimely death while trying to get documents to marry a turkish woman.


He was last seen entering walking into the consulate, but they say there is none of him walking out. The Saudis, while insisting that he left the consulate safely, have not offered any evidence.

Mr. Khashoggi’s fiancée waited for him outside the consulate for hours.

The journalist had been a serious critic of Saudi government.

What information does he have for him to be butchered like a cow.

People say he had dealings with the crown prince

The prince has shown little tolerance for critics of the Saudi government, and many of those who have spoken out have been jailed. So it is reasonable to assume that he was not a fan
Did Saudi agents abduct or kill Mr. Khashoggi?
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Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia in Paris in April. The crown prince, 33, has worked hard to portray himself as a reformer, but Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance could undermine those efforts.


This is where the mystery begins. Turkish officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, have said that their government has detailed evidence of a gory assassination, which they say the Saudi leadership ordered.

The day Mr. Khashoggi disappeared, 15 Saudi agents flew into Istanbul on two private jets chartered by a company with close ties to the crown prince and the Saudi Interior Ministry, the Turks say. The agents waited for Mr. Khashoggi inside the consulate and killed him within two hours of his arrival, the Turkish officials contend.




Among the Saudi agents was a doctor who specialized in autopsies, and the group had brought a bone saw into the consulate, which it used to dismember Mr. Khashoggi, according to the Turkish officials. But the Turks have not yet made public their findings, some of which may come from secret electronic surveillance.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, a personal friend of Mr. Khashoggi’s, has repeatedly demanded an explanation from the Saudis but has not made specific accusations.

Prince Mohammed and other Saudi officials have denied any knowledge of Mr. Khashoggi’s whereabouts, insisting without evidence that he left the consulate


Experts have pointed to another, more cynical possible explanation for Turkey’s reticence about releasing evidence: It may quietly seek some kind of deal with Saudi Arabia that could prevent full disclosure.

Turkey and Saudi Arabia are regional rivals on opposite sides of an ideological feud over Brotherhood-style political Islam. But until now, the two countries have worked hard to bridge their disagreements, in the interest of working together on areas of common interest, like the Syrian civil war.

Laboring under an economic crisis brought on by excessive borrowing, Turkey can ill afford a long-running conflict with a wealthy trading partner like Saudi Arabia. It might even welcome Saudi aid or investment.

What might a deal look like?
Many analysts with experience in the region speculate that the Saudi royal court could pin Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance or death on a “rogue element” within the Saudi security services.

Turkey could accept that explanation, both sides could move on, and the world would never learn the truth about what evidence, if any, the Turkish authorities had.

Whose side is Trump on?
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President Trump arriving at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland on Saturday.CreditAl Drago for The New York Times
President Trump has given mixed signals about his interest in the Khashoggi case.

On the one hand, he has pointedly noted that Mr. Khashoggi was not a United States citizen and that his disappearance occurred far from American soil. He has also repeatedly ruled out cutting off arms sales to Saudi Arabia, on the grounds that those contracts bring money and jobs to the United States.

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On the other hand Mr. Trump vowed over the weekend that there would be “severe punishment” if Saudi Arabia were proved to have killed Mr. Khashoggi.

That threat drew an extraordinary pushback from the Saudis. If Saudi Arabia “receives any action, it will respond with greater action,” the Foreign Ministry said in a statement, citing the oil-rich kingdom’s “influential and vital role in the global economy.”

Saudi Arabia “affirms its total rejection of any threats and attempts to undermine it, whether by threatening to impose economic sanctions, using political pressures, or repeating false accusations,” the Foreign Ministry said.

The possibility of a rift between Mr. Trump and Prince Mohammed over Mr. Khashoggi is remarkable, because the Trump administration has embraced Saudi Arabia as its premier Arab ally. Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and Middle East adviser, Jared Kushner, 37, has grown especially close to Prince Mohammed, a near-contemporary in age.

This is all the more striking because Mohammed bin Salman has made strenuous efforts to promote himself to the West as an agent of moderate liberalisation and reform. The most iconic manifestation of this was last September’s announcement that women in the kingdom would finally be allowed to drive. But what should also be remembered is that, at around the same time, the women who fought for this right were being variously imprisoned, intimidated into silence and smeared as foreign agents.

This came as part of a wider crackdown as hundreds of clerics, activists and businessmen were arrested. Scores of members of the Saudi elite were rounded up and subjected to a supposed “anti-corruption” shakedown, conducted without any recognisable due process, in the notorious Ritz-Carlton episode.

In other words, irrespective of what has happened to Khashoggi, it was already abundantly clear that bin Salman’s purported liberalisation drive was little more than an exercise in PR. Very limited social reforms have taken place, and big economic reforms have been promised (often implausibly), but in political terms the tyranny has intensified, and all changes are aimed squarely at solidifying absolute monarchical rule.

If Khashoggi has been disappeared or killed, it would be a sign of both aggressive and bad judgement on the part of the Saudi regime, but again, further proof of such a lack of judgement is unnecessary. The evidence already included the failed attempt to isolate Qatar until it gave up its independent foreign policy, the reported attempt to orchestrate an effective coup in Lebanon by kidnapping the country’s prime minister while he was visiting Riyadh and ordering him to resign (which he rescinded after returning home), and above all the disastrous intervention in Yemen’s civil war, which was supposed to last weeks or months but has instead degenerated into a three and a half year quagmire. Paranoid about the sustainability of its economic model, and about its geopolitical standing in the Middle East, Riyadh under bin Salman has thus been lashing out wildly in all directions. And one explanation for these continued, ill-judged responses to the kingdom’s underlying strategic concerns is that the 33-year-old prince has yet to face any consequences for his actions.

Jamal Khashoggi’s Disappearance: What We Know and Don’t Know
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Saudi officials arrive at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on Monday for an investigation into the Oct. 2 disappearance there of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi.CreditCreditTolga Bozoglu/EPA, via Shutterstock


Did Saudi agents abduct or kill Mr. Khashoggi?
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Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia in Paris in April. The crown prince, 33, has worked hard to portray himself as a reformer, but Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance could undermine those efforts.CreditChristophe Ena/Associated Press
This is where the mystery begins. Turkish officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, have said that their government has detailed evidence of a gory assassination, which they say the Saudi leadership ordered.

The day Mr. Khashoggi disappeared, 15 Saudi agents flew into Istanbul on two private jets chartered by a company with close ties to the crown prince and the Saudi Interior Ministry, the Turks say. The agents waited for Mr. Khashoggi inside the consulate and killed him within two hours of his arrival, the Turkish officials contend.

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Among the Saudi agents was a doctor who specialized in autopsies, and the group had brought a bone saw into the consulate, which it used to dismember Mr. Khashoggi, according to the Turkish officials. But the Turks have not yet made public their findings, some of which may come from secret electronic surveillance.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, a personal friend of Mr. Khashoggi’s, has repeatedly demanded an explanation from the Saudis but has not made specific accusations.

Prince Mohammed and other Saudi officials have denied any knowledge of Mr. Khashoggi’s whereabouts, insisting without evidence that he left the consulate freely.

If Turkey has evidence, why doesn’t it show it?
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Re: Journalist Killed During Interrogation Inside Saudi Embassy In Turkey by quickly: 9:44pm On Oct 15, 2018
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Re: Journalist Killed During Interrogation Inside Saudi Embassy In Turkey by quickly: 7:50pm On Oct 17, 2018
A Saudi mission that resulted in the apparent death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul was organized by a high-ranking officer with the General Intelligence Presidency, Saudi Arabia's main intelligence service, three sources familiar with the case told CNN.

One of those sources described the officer as close to the inner circle of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. It is unclear whether the crown prince authorized an interrogation, abduction or killing. Several officials CNN spoke with said the mission could not have happened without the direct knowledge of the 33-year-old crown prince, the kingdom's de facto ruler, who is known by his initials "MBS."
A second source said the officer assembled and sent his own team to interrogate Khashoggi. They suspected Khashoggi of having ties to the kingdom's arch rival, Qatar, the source said. There has been no evidence to substantiate Khashoggi had such ties.
Trump sides with Saudis as clamor grows over Khashoggi's disappearance
Trump sides with Saudis as clamor grows over Khashoggi's disappearance
Another source told CNN the mission's organizer was not transparent about what he told Riyadh, which, the source said, explained why the government had no clear information for days.
It's not clear whether these elements will be included in the report ordered by the Saudi authorities into the affair. On Monday, sources told CNN that the report will acknowledge that Khashoggi died in a botched interrogation, one that was intended to lead to his abduction from Turkey.
A Turkish official told CNN on Tuesday that Khashoggi's body was cut into pieces after he was killed two weeks ago at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. The claim, which was first made to the New York Times earlier in the investigation into Khashoggi's fate, comes after Turkish officials searched the consulate for nine hours on Monday night. The Turkish official would not comment on the disposal method for the body.
On Tuesday, President Trump and US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the crown prince informed them that an investigation into the matter had begun and answers would be forthcoming shortly.
Passports suggest team had ties to Saudi government
Turkish officials have said privately that Khashoggi was killed in the consulate on October 2 after he arrived to obtain papers that would have allowed him to marry his Turkish fiancée, Hatice Cengiz. Saudi Arabia has previously insisted he left the building alive, but Cengiz says she never saw him again.
Previously, a source familiar with the ongoing investigation told CNN that Turkish authorities have audio and visual evidence that showed Khashoggi was killed inside the Saudi consulate. The evidence, which was described to the source by a Western intelligence agency, showed there had been an assault and a struggle inside the consulate.
Turkish authorities believe 15 Saudi men who arrived in Istanbul on October 2 were connected to the Khashoggi's disappearance. Turkish officials provided CNN with passport scans of seven men they suspect were part of the group. The passport scans were taken on the day of Khashoggi's disappearance.
CCTV footage shows Saudi Journalist Jamal Khashoggi entering the Saudi consulate on October 2.
CCTV footage shows Saudi Journalist Jamal Khashoggi entering the Saudi consulate on October 2.
One of the passport scans appears to belong to Salah Muhammad al-Tubaiqi, listed as the head of forensic medicine at the Saudi Ministry of Interior. Another member of the group identified by Turkish official media and appearing in the alleged passport scans is Muhammad Saad al-Zahrani, who has appeared on Saudi state TV alongside Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
Sabah, a pro-government private newspaper in Turkey, last week listed 15 names alongside photographs of men who authorities believe were flown into Istanbul from Riyadh. Eight of the 15 were identified by state news Anadolu Agency.
Two sources familiar with the investigation confirmed to CNN that the 15 men listed by Sabah were of interest in the ongoing criminal investigation launched by Turkish prosecutors.
Officials to search Saudi Consul General's residence on Wednesday
By the time Turkish investigators gained access to the consulate Monday evening, a fresh coat of paint had been applied "everywhere" inside the building, a Turkish official told CNN Tuesday. The source said Saudi Arabia must make "a genuine contribution" to the investigation of Khashoggi's disappearance in Istanbul.
A Saudi investigation delegation enters the Saudi Arabian consulate Monday before Turkish investigators arrive.
A Saudi investigation delegation enters the Saudi Arabian consulate Monday before Turkish investigators arrive.
Earlier Tuesday, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan suggested investigators were looking into possibility that evidence of toxic materials had been concealed.
"My hope is that we can reach conclusions that will give us a reasonable opinion as soon as possible, because the investigation is looking into many things such as toxic materials and those materials being removed by painting them over," Erdogan told reporters.
CNN saw a cleaning crew enter the main consulate building on Monday before Turkish officials arrived with a forensics team to begin their investigation. CCTV footage showed vehicles moving from the consulate building to the nearby Saudi consul general's residence on October 2.
An expected search Tuesday of the consul general's residence did not take place, according to a deputy police officer near the building who spoke to CNN's team in Istanbul. Investigators said the search will take place Wednesday, according to state broadcaster TRT.
Meanwhile, the consul general himself, Mohammed Otaibi, left Turkey on Tuesday, the semiofficial Anadolu news agency said.
International scrutiny heightens
Saudi Arabia has been under intense international pressure to explain Khashoggi's apparent death, which has created a diplomatic rift between Saudi Arabia and the West.
The G7 foreign ministers called for those responsible to be held accountable.
"We encourage Turkish-Saudi collaboration and look forward to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia conducting a thorough, credible, transparent, and prompt investigation, as announced."
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo visited Saudi Arabia on Tuesday for talks with King Salman, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, and Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir.
Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir, left, meets US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo Tuesday in Riyadh.
Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir, left, meets US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo Tuesday in Riyadh.
"My assessment from these meetings is that there is serious commitment to determine all the facts and ensure accountability, including accountability for Saudi Arabia's senior leaders or senior officials," Pompeo said Tuesday after meeting.
Pompeo will fly to Ankara, Turkey, on Wednesday to meet with Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu, State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert said.
CNN's Tim Lister and Clarissa Ward reported from Ankara. CNN National Security Analyst Peter Bergen reported from Washington, DC. Nic Robertson and Isil Sariyuce contributed reporting from Istanbul.
Re: Journalist Killed During Interrogation Inside Saudi Embassy In Turkey by quickly: 7:59pm On Oct 17, 2018
Mr Khashoggi, a Saudi dissident and US resident, has been missing since 2 October when he visited the Saudi consulate to obtain documents he needed to get married. He was reportedly killed soon after entering the building.

Crawford said a "very well-placed" source told her the audio recording included a conversation between Mr al-Otaibi and Mr Khashoggi, after which there was "a beating".

The source said the recording later revealed the journalist, who has been a critic of the regime, was "drugged" and "killed", before a Saudi forensics expert told others to put in headphones and listen to music while he took seven minutes to dismember the body.

Turkish media reported a 15-member Saudi "assassination squad" confronted the writer at the consulate and his screams could be heard throughout the building.

Yeni Safak, a strongly pro-government newspaper, said Mr al-Otaibi could be heard telling those allegedly torturing Mr Khashoggi: "Do this outside; you're going to get me in trouble."

Jamal Khashoggi enters the Saudi consulate in Istanbul
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Jamal Khashoggi enters the Saudi consulate in Istanbul
The newspaper said one of the Saudi "torturers" replied: "Shut up if you want to live when you return to (Saudi) Arabia."

The recording also revealed Mr Khashoggi had fingers cut off and was told to "shut up" or face being killed, Yeni Safak reported.

President Donald Trump says he has asked Turkey for audio and video intelligence if it exists.

Turkish forensic officials arrive to the residence of Saudi Arabia's Consul General Mohammad al-Otaibi in Istanbul
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Turkish forensic officers at the Saudi Arabian consul's house in Istanbul
On Wednesday afternoon, Turkish police went into the nearby Saudi consul's official residence after protracted negotiations with Riyadh over the terms of a search.

Around a dozen forensics officers carrying extensive equipment, went in to the building, where they will also search the garden, Crawford said.

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