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Trump Executive Order To End Illegal Birthright Citizenship by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:04am On Oct 31, 2018
Trump Executive Order to End Illegal Birthright Citizenship
October 30, 2018 By Editor

President Trump said in a newly released interview he plans to sign an executive order ending so-called "birthright citizenship" for babies of non-citizens born on U.S. soil — a move that would mark a major overhaul of immigration policy and trigger an almost-certain legal battle.

Birthright citizenship allows any baby born on U.S. soil to automatically be a U.S. citizen.

The policy, which stems from a disputed but long-recognized interpretation of the 14th Amendment, has given rise to what Trump considers abuse of the immigration system. Trump told "Axios on HBO" that the U.S. is the only country in the world "where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States … with all of those benefits."

Despite Trump's claim, the U.S. is not the only nation to have birthright citizenship, but the policy is rare outside of the Americas. Trump called birthright citizenship "ridiculous" and said that "it has to end."

Under current policy, anyone born in the U.S. – regardless of whether they are delivered by a non-citizen or undocumented immigrant – is considered a citizen. The interpretation has been blamed for so-called 'birth tourism' and chain migration.

The 14th Amendment states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Trump, should he pursue the executive order, would face court challenges, and it remains unclear whether he could prevail. Many legal scholars would argue such a change requires a constitutional amendment. But some conservatives argue the existing amendment holds room for interpretation.

Michael Anton, a former national security adviser for Trump, pointed out in July that "there's a clause in the middle of the amendment that people ignore or they misinterpret – subject to the jurisdiction thereof."

"What they are saying is, if you are born on U.S. soil subject to the jurisdiction of the United States – meaning you're the child of citizens or the child of legal immigrants, then you are entitled to citizenship," Anton told Fox News' Tucker Carlson in July. "If you are here illegally, if you owe allegiance to a foreign nation, if you're the citizen of a foreign country, that clause does not apply to you."

The interview was released after Trump told Fox News that Central American migrants who are approaching the U.S.-Mexico border in caravans are "wasting their time" and vowed, "they are not coming in."

Trump spoke to "The Ingraham Angle" hours after the Pentagon announced it would deploy some 5,200 troops to the southern border in what the commander of U.S. Northern Command described as an effort to "harden the southern border" by stiffening defenses at and near legal entry points.

"When they are captured, we don't let them out," Trump told host Laura Ingraham. "We're not letting them out … We're not catching, we're not releasing … We're not letting them into this country."

Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals judge James C. Ho, who was appointed by Trump, has argued that it would be "unconstitutional" to change how the 14th amendment was written and that the line subject to debate applies to the legal obligation of all foreigners and immigrants to follow U.S. law, Axios reported.

http://federalistpress.com/trump-executive-order-to-end-illegal-birthright-citizenship.php?
Re: Trump Executive Order To End Illegal Birthright Citizenship by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:21am On Oct 31, 2018
I could see Abbeybailey peeping through this thread. He must be wetting his pants by now. tongue

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Re: Trump Executive Order To End Illegal Birthright Citizenship by AntiWailer: 1:44am On Oct 31, 2018
The eediot is just appealing to his illiterate base ahead of mid term elections.

AN EXECUTIVE ORDER can not overwrite a constitution.

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Re: Trump Executive Order To End Illegal Birthright Citizenship by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:02am On Oct 31, 2018
AntiWailer:


The eediot is just appealing to his illiterate base ahead of mid term elections.

AN EXECUTIVE ORDER can not overwrite a constitution.

That's how they said he could not win the presidential election. undecided

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Re: Trump Executive Order To End Illegal Birthright Citizenship by AntiWailer: 2:43am On Oct 31, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


That's how they said he could not win the presidential election. undecided

Altering constitution with Executive order is different from a Presidential Contest.

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Re: Trump Executive Order To End Illegal Birthright Citizenship by wirinet(m): 7:13am On Oct 31, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


That's how they said he could not win the presidential election. undecided
What is the correlation between winning the elections and altering the constitution? Trump and his supporters probably need a brain transplant in order to learn anything new.

Try and learn this; an executive order can never alter the constitution.

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Re: Trump Executive Order To End Illegal Birthright Citizenship by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:45pm On Nov 01, 2018
AntiWailer:


Altering constitution with Executive order is different from a Presidential Contest.
wirinet:

What is the correlation between winning the elections and altering the constitution? Trump and his supporters probably need a brain transplant in order to learn anything new.

Try and learn this; an executive order can never alter the constitution.

See what the Supreme Court actually said about birthright citizenship.

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/heres-what-the-supreme-court-actually-said-about-birthright-citizenship/?
Re: Trump Executive Order To End Illegal Birthright Citizenship by wirinet(m): 6:32pm On Nov 01, 2018
OLAADEGBU:



See what the Supreme Court actually said about birthright citizenship.

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/heres-what-the-supreme-court-actually-said-about-birthright-citizenship/?

You are giving us a very wide interpretation of the 14th amendments from conservative review. The constitution says something is white and you guys interprete it to be black because you claim the while is not pure white but a shade of grey, as grey has black in it.

This is what the 14th Amendment says;
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

You people interpret "subject to the jurisdiction thereof to mean a baby born in the US automatically becomes an illegal immigrant and not subject to the jurisdiction of the US. I have not heard a more absurd statement.

How is a baby born and living in the US not subject to the jurisdiction of the US? If Trump has said that babies of illegal immigrants born in the US and taken out of US (out of US jurisdiction ) would not be entitled to US citizenship automatically, I might understand, but to say a baby born by illegal immigrants that lived and grew up in the US is not entitled to citizenship is absurd according to US constitution.

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Re: Trump Executive Order To End Illegal Birthright Citizenship by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:16pm On Nov 05, 2018
wirinet:


You are giving us a very wide interpretation of the 14th amendments from conservative review. The constitution says something is white and you guys interprete it to be black because you claim the while is not pure white but a shade of grey, as grey has black in it.

This is what the 14th Amendment says;
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

You people interpret "subject to the jurisdiction thereof to mean a baby born in the US automatically becomes an illegal immigrant and not subject to the jurisdiction of the US. I have not heard a more absurd statement.

How is a baby born and living in the US not subject to the jurisdiction of the US? If Trump has said that babies of illegal immigrants born in the US and taken out of US (out of US jurisdiction ) would not be entitled to US citizenship automatically, I might understand, but to say a baby born by illegal immigrants that lived and grew up in the US is not entitled to citizenship is absurd according to US constitution.

The 14th Amendment was made in response of the Democrats' effort to deny freed African slaves from becoming American citizens. When African slaves were freed the Democrats insisted that they should be denied American citizenship and that was why the Republicans voted for the 14th Amendment which made them not only free but also American citizens since they have no other allegiance to other nations.

The 14th Amendment was for African Americans and not for Indian Americans since they were already citizens neither was it for any other migrant. It was subject to the jurisdiction of those not living in the liberal south. It was the Democrats that interpreted to be open for all immigrants born in America. I hope I am making some sense out of it. undecided

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Re: Trump Executive Order To End Illegal Birthright Citizenship by Caseless: 6:20am On Nov 06, 2018
Those idiots that leave Nigeria to go give birth in the US won't like this.
Re: Trump Executive Order To End Illegal Birthright Citizenship by Temple1288(m): 8:16am On Nov 09, 2018
That's the worst law in America. How do you get into a country give birth and become a citizen of that country?
Re: Trump Executive Order To End Illegal Birthright Citizenship by Temple1288(m): 8:23am On Nov 09, 2018
wirinet:

What is the correlation between winning the elections and altering the constitution? Trump and his supporters probably need a brain transplant in order to learn anything new.

Try and learn this; an executive order can never alter the constitution.


So Trump isn't familiar with new things? 60 million Americans don't know new things?

This is coming from 'onye isi oji' that's unpopular and irreverent.

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