Russia’s coast guard ships on Sunday intentionally carried out acts of aggression against the ships of the Ukrainian Navy that were engaged in planned relocation from the port of Odesa to the port of Mariupol of the Sea of Azov, the Ukrainian Navy said.
On November 25, Ukrainian Navy ships, consisting of two small armored artillery boats and a raid tug, carried out a planned deployed from the port of Odessa to the port of Mariupol of the Azov Sea.
“However, contrary to the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea and the Treaty between Ukraine and the Russian Federation on Cooperation in the Use of the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait, Russian ships – Sobol class patrol boats, the Don coast guard ship, Mangust-class patrol boats, and the Suzdalets corvette – carried out openly aggressive actions against the ships of the Ukrainian Navy,” the Ukrainian Navy said in a statement on Facebook on Sunday morning.
The Russian border ship “Don” mounted an intentional ram attack on a Ukrainian Navy tugboat whose main engine was damaged. It also damaged shell plating and guard railing of the Ukrainian vessel, and its life raft was lost.
TheRussian Federal Security Service (FSB), for its part, says three Ukrainian navy vessels, which crossed the marine border on Sunday morning, are heading for Kerch strait that separates Crimea from mainland Russia.
“This morning at around 7 a.m. Moscow time, three vessels belonging to Ukrainian armed forces violated the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea… to enter Russian territorial waters,” read a statement from Russia’s federal security agency FSB, which is responsible for maintaining the country’s borders.
The Ukrainian Navy states that “the invaders’ dispatcher service refuses to ensure the right to freedom of navigation, guaranteed by international agreements.”
It is also noted that Russia has once again demonstrated its aggressive nature and complete disregard for the norms of international law.
https://defence-blog.com/news/russias-coast-guard-ships-intentionally-rammed-ukranian-navy-vessel.html

I believe the FSB version of the story.

For those needing geographical assistance...

Crimea is a Russian territory.The Ukrainians are wrong.

Porky somehow has declared martial law. Seems he's playing games and doesn't want drop the reins of power come March. The dude knows he's going to fail at the polls what better way to scare and restrict the people by using these events to his advantage. This events were deliberately orchestrated to get a reaction from the Kremlin and now they've actually gotten one. Two gun boats and a tugboat have been seized. Did anyone notice, the 2 Ukrainian gunboats were given to Ukraine by the US a few months ago.

aiir2303:
Porky somehow has declared martial law. Seems he's playing games and doesn't want drop the reins of power come March. The dude knows he's going to fail at the polls what better way to scare and restrict the people by using these events to his advantage. This events were deliberately orchestrated to get a reaction from the Kremlin and now they've actually gotten one. Two gun boats and a tugboat have been seized. Did anyone notice, the 2 Ukrainian gunboats were given to Ukraine by the US a few months ago.

More reason not to park those boats near any key naval Assets of the mother Bear. NFC is on a whole new level.

aiir2303:
Porky somehow has declared martial law. Seems he's playing games and doesn't want drop the reins of power come March. The dude knows he's going to fail at the polls what better way to scare and restrict the people by using these events to his advantage. This events were deliberately orchestrated to get a reaction from the Kremlin and now they've actually gotten one. Two gun boats and a tugboat have been seized. Did anyone notice, the 2 Ukrainian gunboats were given to Ukraine by the US a few months ago.

Immediately I saw the news, I was laughing because the dude is going to lose the election next year and he needed the martial law.
Why don’t the dude introduce the law 2014 ?

aiir2303:
Porky somehow has declared martial law. Seems he's playing games and doesn't want drop the reins of power come March. The dude knows he's going to fail at the polls what better way to scare and restrict the people by using these events to his advantage. This events were deliberately orchestrated to get a reaction from the Kremlin and now they've actually gotten one. Two gun boats and a tugboat have been seized. Did anyone notice, the 2 Ukrainian gunboats were given to Ukraine by the US a few months ago.

Complete and utter rubbish. If you're going to straight-out lie like a Putin bot then at least make it believable.

The two gunboats attacked and seized as they were traveling to their own coastline were the Berdiansk and Nikopol, two Gyurza class patrol boats built in Ukraine, by a shipyard owned by Poroshenko himself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyurza-M_class_artillery_boats

The Ukrainian Navy is small enough as it is without losing two key patrol boats, it will hit them hard.

seunny4lif:

Immediately I saw the news, I was laughing because the dude is going to lose the election next year and he needed the martial law.
Why don’t the dude introduce the law 2014 ?

Of course bro....The dude is smart. What more pretext do you need to move the election dates, restricting people's right to protest and giving the government more powers to censor the media

AbujaBlue:
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Complete and utter rubbish. If you're going to straight-out lie like a Putin bot then at least make it believable.

The two gunboats attacked and seized as they were traveling to their own coastline were the Berdiansk and Nikopol, two Gyurza class patrol boats built in Ukraine, by a shipyard owned by Poroshenko himself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyurza-M_class_artillery_boats

The Ukrainian Navy is small enough as it is without losing two key patrol boats, it will hit them hard.

Hey western MSM conditioned NPC pre-programmed f**l , it's like your delusions are on overdrive like those swamp creatures in Washington wearing the exceptional garbs of hypocrisy.
This ain't the first time Ukrainian vessels have been passing through this straight so what happened this time around

aiir2303:

Hey western MSM conditioned NPC pre-programmed f**l , it's like your delusions are on overdrive like those swamp creatures in Washington wearing the exceptional garbs of hypocrisy.
This ain't the first time Ukrainian vessels have been passing through this straight so what happened this time around

This is exactly what happened! See the picture below. A Russian tanker blocked the only path through the strait (don't tell me, imperialists photo shopped that ship in place. Hah! ).

The two patrol boats turned back and were attacked, engines disabled and seized. The tug boat was rammed - there is a Russian video of that incident already out there.

An economic blockade is already in place. It takes an ordinary cargo ship a week to get through what used to be a journey of a few hours. Typical behaviour of a bully.

To be honest, I was tempted to leave you to your paranoid ramblings and conspiracy theories, but there gets a point when the utter spiel you spout at the behest of your puppetmaster needs to be challenged for the sake of Nairalanders, even at the risk of feeding the troll.

AbujaBlue:


This is exactly what happened! See the picture below. A Russian tanker blocked the only path through the strait (don't tell me, imperialists photo shopped that ship in place. Hah! ).

The two patrol boats turned back and were attacked, engines disabled and seized. The tug boat was rammed - there is a Russian video of that incident already out there.

An economic blockade is already in place. It takes an ordinary cargo ship a week to get through what used to be a journey of a few hours. Typical behaviour of a bully.

To be honest, I was tempted to leave you to your paranoid ramblings and conspiracy theories, but there gets a point when the utter spiel you spout at the behest of your puppetmaster needs to be challenged for the sake of Nairalanders, even at the risk of feeding the troll.

Hey pre-programmed NPC stop sounding like you ran into error reading your programming . For every events there's always there's just about more than one narrative and yours is sounding more like those DC swamp rats which the like to push theirs almost on every body telling us about the big bad Russian narrative.
If we're to examine these events and if we're to be honest we know that these two nations aren't even seeing eye to eye on anything especially after 2014 when this puppet was installed by the west.
So there's bound to be conflict on anything theyre both involved in especially if one senses that the other is trespassing on its territory.
Now let's look examine this other side of the story before you jump to conclusions by labeling the Russian state a bully almost by default which youve been wired to do without looking at facts and the complexities of the situation at hand.
We know that theUkranian vessels were sailing between two Ukrainian ports: from Odessa in the Black Sea to Mariupol in the Azov Sea. The only waterway that connects these is the Kerch Strait between Crimea and mainland Russia. Kiev says it notified Moscow in advance that its navy ships would be sailing through the area. Moscow denies that it was given warning.
While both Russia and Ukraine have freedom of navigation in the Kerch Strait under a 2003 treaty, there are detailed technical rules on how vessels should pass through the narrow, complex waterway. All traffic in the area is controlled by the Crimean sea port of Kerch, and every ship should contact the facility, report her route and destination, and receive permission to sail through the Strait.

At around 7am Moscow time (4am GMT) on Sunday, two artillery boats and a tugboat belonging to the Ukrainian Navy crossed the Russian maritime border in the Black Sea and headed to the Kerch Strait.
These ships had not followed the procedure, said the Russian Federal Security Service responsible for maintaining order at the border.Meanwhile, around 11:30am Moscow time (08:30am GMT), two more Ukrainian vessels departed the Azov Sea port of Berdyansk and approached the Kerch Strait from the other side, but then turned back and returned to port.

A giant bulk freighter accompanied by several Russian military vessels blocked the only passage through the Kerch strait for security reasons. The Russian military also scrambled aircraft, while the situation remained tense. Videos from the site showed Russian Ka-52 gunships cruising under the Crimea Bridge. Later, they were joined by several Su-25 strike fighters.
meWorld News
Tense standoff around Kerch Strait between Russia & Ukraine: How it developed
Published time: 26 Nov, 2018 01:05
Edited time: 26 Nov, 2018 13:48
Tense standoff around Kerch Strait between Russia & Ukraine: How it developed
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The waters near the Crimean peninsula were the site of a tense standoff between Russian and Ukrainian ships that involved a chase, some gunfire, and fighter jets, followed by strong statements from Moscow and Kiev.
The Ukranian vessels were sailing between two Ukrainian ports: from Odessa in the Black Sea to Mariupol in the Azov Sea. The only waterway that connects these is the Kerch Strait between Crimea and mainland Russia. Kiev says it notified Moscow in advance that its navy ships would be sailing through the area. Moscow denies that it was given warning.

While both Russia and Ukraine have freedom of navigation in the Kerch Strait under a 2003 treaty, there are detailed technical rules on how vessels should pass through the narrow, complex waterway. All traffic in the area is controlled by the Crimean sea port of Kerch, and every ship should contact the facility, report her route and destination, and receive permission to sail through the Strait.


Schematic movements of Ukrainian vessels (yellow) near Kerch Strait © Google Maps / edited
At around 7am Moscow time (4am GMT) on Sunday, two artillery boats and a tugboat belonging to the Ukrainian Navy crossed the Russian maritime border in the Black Sea and headed to the Kerch Strait.


These ships had not followed the procedure, said the Russian Federal Security Service responsible for maintaining order at the border.


© FSB
The Russian officers repeatedly asked the Ukrainian vessels to leave Russia's territorial waters, but they ignored those requests. The ships also entered waters that had been temporarily closed to navigation.


Meanwhile, around 11:30am Moscow time (08:30am GMT), two more Ukrainian vessels departed the Azov Sea port of Berdyansk and approached the Kerch Strait from the other side, but then turned back and returned to port.


© FSB
A giant bulk freighter accompanied by several Russian military vessels blocked the only passage through the Kerch strait for security reasons. The Russian military also scrambled aircraft, while the situation remained tense. Videos from the site showed Russian Ka-52 gunships cruising under the Crimea Bridge. Later, they were joined by several Su-25 strike fighters.


Ukrainian vessels continued their journey despite warnings from the Russian authorities. The Ukrainian Navy said the military vessels were sailing from the port city of Odessa to the Azov port of Mariupol as part of a scheduled routine transfer and claimed that it warned the Russian authorities about the trip in advance.

The FSB denounced the actions of the Ukrainian vessels as "provocation." A video released by Russian authorities shows the Ukrainian vessels maneuvering in close proximity to the Russian ones.

At midnight, the FSB released a statement, saying that Russian warships had to open fire after the three Ukrainian ships ignored "legal demands to stop" and continued "performing dangerous maneuvers."

Three Ukrainian sailors were wounded and given medical assistance, while the ships were seized. The group of ships that were heading to the strait from the Azov Sea turned back to their port.

RT

That's the basic gist and anyone can decide to pick a side but no one should come in here sounding like a NPC. Spitting rubbish like the one person is acting like a big bully, that Russia is destabilizing the region, the classic Russian act of aggression etc
So please save us the drivel and focus on those like you whose brains can't do without a Lil' bit of DC swamp tickling

[quote author=aiir2303 post=73326211]

Hey pre-programmed NPC stop sounding like you ran into error reading your programming . For every events there's always there's just about more than one narrative and yours is sounding more like those DC swamp rats which the like to push theirs almost on every body telling us about the big bad Russian narrative.
If we're to examine these events and if we're to be honest we know that these two nations aren't even seeing eye to eye on anything especially after 2014 when this puppet was installed by the west.
So there's bound to be conflict on anything theyre both involved in especially if one senses that the other is trespassing on its territory.

Now let's look examine this other side of the story before you jump to conclusions by labeling the Russian state a bully almost by default which youve been wired to do without looking at facts and the complexities of the situation at hand.

We know that theUkranian vessels were sailing between two Ukrainian ports: from Odessa in the Black Sea to Mariupol in the Azov Sea. The only waterway that connects these is the Kerch Strait between Crimea and mainland Russia. Kiev says it notified Moscow in advance that its navy ships would be sailing through the area. Moscow denies that it was given warning.
While both Russia and Ukraine have freedom of navigation in the Kerch Strait under a 2003 treaty, there are detailed technical rules on how vessels should pass through the narrow, complex waterway. All traffic in the area is controlled by the Crimean sea port of Kerch, and every ship should contact the facility, report her route and destination, and receive permission to sail through the Strait.

At around 7am Moscow time (4am GMT) on Sunday, two artillery boats and a tugboat belonging to the Ukrainian Navy crossed the Russian maritime border in the Black Sea and headed to the Kerch Strait.
These ships had not followed the procedure, said the Russian Federal Security Service responsible for maintaining order at the border.Meanwhile, around 11:30am Moscow time (08:30am GMT), two more Ukrainian vessels departed the Azov Sea port of Berdyansk and approached the Kerch Strait from the other side, but then turned back and returned to port.

A giant bulk freighter accompanied by several Russian military vessels blocked the only passage through the Kerch strait for security reasons. The Russian military also scrambled aircraft, while the situation remained tense. Videos from the site showed Russian Ka-52 gunships cruising under the Crimea Bridge. Later, they were joined by several Su-25 strike fighters.


The waters near the Crimean peninsula were the site of a tense standoff between Russian and Ukrainian ships that involved a chase, some gunfire, and fighter jets, followed by strong statements from Moscow and Kiev.
The Ukranian vessels were sailing between two Ukrainian ports: from Odessa in the Black Sea to Mariupol in the Azov Sea. The only waterway that connects these is the Kerch Strait between Crimea and mainland Russia. Kiev says it notified Moscow in advance that its navy ships would be sailing through the area. Moscow denies that it was given warning.

While both Russia and Ukraine have freedom of navigation in the Kerch Strait under a 2003 treaty, there are detailed technical rules on how vessels should pass through the narrow, complex waterway. All traffic in the area is controlled by the Crimean sea port of Kerch, and every ship should contact the facility, report her route and destination, and receive permission to sail through the Strait.


At around 7am Moscow time (4am GMT) on Sunday, two artillery boats and a tugboat belonging to the Ukrainian Navy crossed the Russian maritime border in the Black Sea and headed to the Kerch Strait.

These ships had not followed the procedure, said the Russian Federal Security Service responsible for maintaining order at the border.

The Russian officers repeatedly asked the Ukrainian vessels to leave Russia's territorial waters, but they ignored those requests. The ships also entered waters that had been temporarily closed to navigation.


Meanwhile, around 11:30am Moscow time (08:30am GMT), two more Ukrainian vessels departed the Azov Sea port of Berdyansk and approached the Kerch Strait from the other side, but then turned back and returned to port.

A giant bulk freighter accompanied by several Russian military vessels blocked the only passage through the Kerch strait for security reasons. The Russian military also scrambled aircraft, while the situation remained tense. Videos from the site showed Russian Ka-52 gunships cruising under the Crimea Bridge. Later, they were joined by several Su-25 strike fighters.


Ukrainian vessels continued their journey despite warnings from the Russian authorities. The Ukrainian Navy said the military vessels were sailing from the port city of Odessa to the Azov port of Mariupol as part of a scheduled routine transfer and claimed that it warned the Russian authorities about the trip in advance.

The FSB denounced the actions of the Ukrainian vessels as "provocation." A video released by Russian authorities shows the Ukrainian vessels maneuvering in close proximity to the Russian ones.

At midnight, the FSB released a statement, saying that Russian warships had to open fire after the three Ukrainian ships ignored "legal demands to stop" and continued "performing dangerous maneuvers."

Three Ukrainian sailors were wounded and given medical assistance, while the ships were seized. The group of ships that were heading to the strait from the Azov Sea turned back to their port.

RT

That's the basic gist and anyone can decide to pick a side but no one should come in here sounding like a NPC. Spitting rubbish like the one person is acting like a big bully, that Russia is destabilizing the region, the classic Russian act of aggression etc
So please save us the drivel and focus on those like you whose brains can't do without a Lil' bit of DC swamp tickling

Really? That's the best you can do? It's clear when the argument is lost when you revert to 1. Casting insults and more untruths, just like your bully-boy master would; 2. plagiarising by posting a wall of copy and pasted state propaganda by your revered Russia Today and pass it as your own. You didn't even bother to remove the photo captions provided by the FSB. Hahaha. What's next? That the two Russian tourists visited Salisbury for the cathedral's 123 foot spire?You have not 'picked any side'. Your brain is conditioned to blindly follow Russian propaganda. Perhaps they'll notice one day and send a small monthly stipend your way? Keep up the good work, comrade.

Here is the irrefutable evidence of deliberate ramming on the Kerch Strait, from a Russian source..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CrZOt6otLw

First I give you a photograph of the Russian blockade, and now the video of ramming. This is what's called hard evidence. I don't need to copy and paste a wall of text from Kyiv Post to prove a point.

And you should not be harsh on the USA. Their commander-in-chief is Putin's puppet, just like you. Which is why he completely ignored the whole Kerch incident. Even Turkey took a stronger stance on Russia than the USA: '“As a country sharing a Black Sea coast, we underline that passage through Kerch Strait should not be blocked.”

I knew the Ukronazi bastards must have been following a scripted order from their masters in Washington.


From The Saker's Vineyard

It is worth mentioning that on Sunday the Urkonazis sent a few more ships obviously to aid the ships intercepted by the Russians, but as soon as the Russians closed the passage and Russian Su-25s and Ka-52 appeared in the skies, they quickly stopped and eventually left the scene.  Did they do that under order or because they did not want to die?  We will never find out I suppose.

First, let me remind you that we are talking about armed and military vessels, not fishing boats.  Second, the Ukronazis have been daydreaming about bringing this bridge down even before it was built.  So how where the Russians to know that these ships were not packed with explosives?  Third, let me remind you that a few months ago the Ukronazis did send a few tiny military vessels under the bridge. 

That first time, they did ask for permission and even had a Russian pilot on board helping them to cross the narrow passage.  Yet the regime in Kiev presented that a major “victory” against the Moskal’s.  This time around tried to sneak by without asking. If the Russians had left them pass, what do you think they would have done the next time?

The truth is that the Ukronazi regime has been claiming for years now that it is at war against Russia, that Russia has invaded the Ukraine, that all those who oppose the regime or speak even the basic truth are “agents of the Kremlin/FSB. 

The funny thing is not just that this is the first time in Russian history that Russia is accused of waging a war which shes does not even participate in – it is even more hilarious that the Ukronazis claim to be at war with Russia but have a hissy fit when three of their (tiny) ships are arrested for violating the Russian border.  Is there a war going on or not?!  What the hell were they thinking when they tried to force their way through?!

How do you prove that the other guy is an “aggressor state”?  Simple – by forcing him to attack you.  Considering the “selective blindness” of the collective West, the fact that you hit the other guy first makes absolutely no difference whatsoever (again, see 08.08.08) - Georgian attack.

Next
Sanctions against Russia loading......90%
When US and all her allies have run out of Sanctions against Russia then WW3 will begin

seunny4lif:
Next
Sanctions against Russia loading......90%
When US and all her allies have run out of Sanctions against Russia then WW3 will begin

Spot on. Haba no one wants ww3 abeg o.

Zoharariel:
I knew the Ukronazi bastards must have been following a scripted order from their masters in Washington.


From The Saker's Vineyard

It is worth mentioning that on Sunday the Urkonazis sent a few more ships obviously to aid the ships intercepted by the Russians, but as soon as the Russians closed the passage and Russian Su-25s and Ka-52 appeared in the skies, they quickly stopped and eventually left the scene.  Did they do that under order or because they did not want to die?  We will never find out I suppose.

First, let me remind you that we are talking about armed and military vessels, not fishing boats.  Second, the Ukronazis have been daydreaming about bringing this bridge down even before it was built.  So how where the Russians to know that these ships were not packed with explosives?  Third, let me remind you that a few months ago the Ukronazis did send a few tiny military vessels under the bridge. 

That first time, they did ask for permission and even had a Russian pilot on board helping them to cross the narrow passage.  Yet the regime in Kiev presented that a major “victory” against the Moskal’s.  This time around tried to sneak by without asking. If the Russians had left them pass, what do you think they would have done the next time?

The truth is that the Ukronazi regime has been claiming for years now that it is at war against Russia, that Russia has invaded the Ukraine, that all those who oppose the regime or speak even the basic truth are “agents of the Kremlin/FSB. 

The funny thing is not just that this is the first time in Russian history that Russia is accused of waging a war which shes does not even participate in – it is even more hilarious that the Ukronazis claim to be at war with Russia but have a hissy fit when three of their (tiny) ships are arrested for violating the Russian border.  Is there a war going on or not?!  What the hell were they thinking when they tried to force their way through?!

How do you prove that the other guy is an “aggressor state”?  Simple – by forcing him to attack you.  Considering the “selective blindness” of the collective West, the fact that you hit the other guy first makes absolutely no difference whatsoever (again, see 08.08.08) - Georgian attack.

Thanks bro. Help me enlighten that NPC called @Abujablue he seems to be a ukroid neo-Natzi sympathizer

AbujaBlue:
Really? That's the best you can do? It's clear when the argument is lost when you revert to 1. Casting insults and more untruths, just like your bully-boy master would; 2. plagiarising by posting a wall of copy and pasted state propaganda by your revered Russia Today and pass it as your own. You didn't even bother to remove the photo captions provided by the FSB. Hahaha. What's next? That the two Russian tourists visited Salisbury for the cathedral's 123 foot spire?You have not 'picked any side'. Your brain is conditioned to blindly follow Russian propaganda. Perhaps they'll notice one day and send a small monthly stipend your way? Keep up the good work, comrade.

Here is the irrefutable evidence of deliberate ramming on the Kerch Strait, from a Russian source..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CrZOt6otLw

First I give you a photograph of the Russian blockade, and now the video of ramming. This is what's called hard evidence. I don't need to copy and paste a wall of text from Kyiv Post to prove a point.

And you should not be harsh on the USA. Their commander-in-chief is Putin's puppet, just like you. Which is why he completely ignored the whole Kerch incident. Even Turkey took a stronger stance on Russia than the USA: '“As a country sharing a Black Sea coast, we underline that passage through Kerch Strait should not be blocked.”

It's not my fault that you won't use your head because NPC's can't. Everyone following this event critically would'nt jump into conclusions without a thorough understanding of the complex situation.
Now you've come up with the usual drivel of the liberal left accusing Trump of being Putin's puppet. Riddle me this, is this the actions of a puppet;

> quitting the INF treaty ( making the world more dangerous to live in)


> placing more sanctions on existing ones


>Bringing diplomatic relations to an all time low (worse than the cold war period). Even officials of the two countries appear cold with each other when they're meant to be working together and making the world safer. Even Mike Pence in the last ASEAN summit seemed to think he could look down and act tough (cause this all they talk about in the America Media) trying to intimidate Putin by behaving like a clown. Putin simply put him in his place by ignoring him by speaking speaking with John Bolton whose got more experience and composure in the art of diplomacy.


The world is getting to know people like you western Empire fan boys and know what y'all are all about with your Atlantic Council propaganda spouting outlet . Every discerning individual know all these provocations was way well in the works and it's execution has had the desired result. And I'll give you the evidence that they've been planning something like this all along. It's even stated by one Romanenko former Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, that an escalation around that area was brewing. And he's prediction took under four days in coming to fruition and we saw a major altercation. That's the link to the article in case youre in cloud of doubt

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.unian.info/politics/amp-10349364-ukrainian-general-predicts-big-war-with-russia-as-sea-of-azov-shipping-row-escalates-media.html

Porky has given himself the opportunity to hold on to power a little longer. And regards the earlier response I gave to you sure, I did copy and paste so that you'll see another narrative instead of the one you've deluded yourself with and I wouldnt have to start writing on long explanation where im pretty sure that even after reading you won't be able to learn cause you're an NPC . And it's pretty obvious isn't it, that I attributed it to "RT"(like this) or didn't you see the inscription down on the left of my response and according to their policy it's stated you can share with friends and I think this includes brainwashed ones also.

You even get time to lecture.
MSN zombies can’t change
Those are the same set of people that said Gadaffi was a bad leader just because AJ, CNN and BBC said so.

aiir2303:


It's not my fault that you won't use your head because NPC's can't. Everyone following this event critically would'nt jump into conclusions without a thorough understanding of the complex situation.
Now you've come up with the usual drivel of the liberal left accusing Trump of being Putin's puppet. Riddle me this, is this the actions of a puppet;

> quitting the INF treaty ( making the world more dangerous to live in)


> placing more sanctions on existing ones


>Bringing diplomatic relations to an all time low (worse than the cold war period). Even officials of the two countries appear cold with each other when they're meant to be working together and making the world safer. Even Mike Pence in the last ASEAN summit seemed to think he could look down and act tough (cause this all they talk about in the America Media) trying to intimidate Putin by behaving like a clown. Putin simply put him in his place by ignoring him by speaking speaking with John Bolton whose got more experience and composure in the art of diplomacy.


The world is getting to know people like you western Empire fan boys and know what y'all are all about with your Atlantic Council propaganda spouting outlet . Every discerning individual know all these provocations was way well in the works and it's execution has had the desired result. And I'll give you the evidence that they've been planning something like this all along. It's even stated by one Romanenko former Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, that an escalation around that area was brewing. And he's prediction took under four days in coming to fruition and we saw a major altercation. That's the link to the article in case youre in cloud of doubt

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.unian.info/politics/amp-10349364-ukrainian-general-predicts-big-war-with-russia-as-sea-of-azov-shipping-row-escalates-media.html

Porky has given himself the opportunity to hold on to power a little longer. And regards the earlier response I gave to you sure, I did copy and paste so that you'll see another narrative instead of the one you've deluded yourself with and I wouldnt have to start writing on long explanation where im pretty sure that even after reading you won't be able to learn cause you're an NPC . And it's pretty obvious isn't it, that I attributed it to "RT"(like this) or didn't you see the inscription down on the left of my response and according to their policy it's stated you can share with friends and I think this includes brainwashed ones also.

seunny4lif:

You even get time to lecture.
MSN zombies can’t change
Those are the same set of people that said Gadaffi was a bad leader just because AJ, CNN and BBC said so.

Baba, It is not my duty to educate any zombie, and that's why you hardly see me arguing with them.

Once I drop the facts, I just bounce - and so whether or not they want to be objective & reason logically is left to them.

seunny4lif:

You even get time to lecture.
MSN zombies can’t change
Those are the same set of people that said Gadaffi was a bad leader just because AJ, CNN and BBC said so.

No vex bro. The hypocrisy of the guys is what boils my blood

seunny4lif:

You even get time to lecture.
MSN zombies can’t change
Those are the same set of people that said Gadaffi was a bad leader just because AJ, CNN and BBC said so.

No vex bro. The hypocrisy of the guys is what boils my blood

Spot on

Zoharariel:


Baba, It is not my duty to educate any zombie, and that's why you hardly see me arguing with them.

Once I drop the facts, I just bounce - and so whether or not they want to be objective & reason logically is left to them.

AbujaBlue:
Really? That's the best you can do? It's clear when the argument is lost when you revert to 1. Casting insults and more untruths, just like your bully-boy master would; 2. plagiarising by posting a wall of copy and pasted state propaganda by your revered Russia Today and pass it as your own. You didn't even bother to remove the photo captions provided by the FSB. Hahaha. What's next? That the two Russian tourists visited Salisbury for the cathedral's 123 foot spire?You have not 'picked any side'. Your brain is conditioned to blindly follow Russian propaganda. Perhaps they'll notice one day and send a small monthly stipend your way? Keep up the good work, comrade.

Here is the irrefutable evidence of deliberate ramming on the Kerch Strait, from a Russian source..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CrZOt6otLw

First I give you a photograph of the Russian blockade, and now the video of ramming. This is what's called hard evidence. I don't need to copy and paste a wall of text from Kyiv Post to prove a point.

And you should not be harsh on the USA. Their commander-in-chief is Putin's puppet, just like you. Which is why he completely ignored the whole Kerch incident. Even Turkey took a stronger stance on Russia than the USA: '“As a country sharing a Black Sea coast, we underline that passage through Kerch Strait should not be blocked.”

Sorry to say, but you're sounding exactly like what you've accused your opponent for. What makes you think that Russia would deliberately rammed Ukrainian ships without any iota of provocation from the Ukrainian side? Are you even listening to yourself and reading your one-sided narrative?

This isn't the first time the Ukrainians were using the straight, and no incidents like this has ever happened. So why now? You can ask yourself. Oh, you believe that Russia just woke out of bed and says: "hey, navy, let's ram into some Ukrainian ships for the fun of it, especially with EU's Moscow sanctions due for review come December. We need more of those sanctions, boys." I think that's the probable motive you believe is the actual reason why the Russians dammed and seized the two Ukrainian boats, right?

My friend, all nations are guilty of propaganda, and until you learn to reason independently and logically, you will just turn out to become what you accused others of. There is no logical reason why Russia should just rammed Ukrainian ships now unless something must have happened.Even the EU and NATO didn't go ballistic on the matter because they sometimes understand logic and are in better position to know the facts on ground, than someone calling it classic Russian bullying. Maybe you should learn how to keep an open mind and reason logically. Just like Russia, the government in Kiev is no Saint, and the quicker you realized it, the better for your sense of reasoning.