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What are Cuthans?

More info here. mildly interesting read but I'd say an interesting picture (shown below)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/serpent_tribe/serpent_tribe02.htm




Can you say "Oduduwa theory" right there!!

Gnostic Succession (Dositheos to Bar Daisan)

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Ebionite and Elkesaite Succession (including first Church of Believers, Nazaraeans, Nasoreans, Nazarenes, Nosrei Ha Berit, Sampsaeans, etc.) . Eventually, some of these form the original Church (post-first family, that is, and rivals to the Pauline heresy). Some of these, such as the Sampsaeans, include members of the family bloodline, the desposynii, and they move on to Kurdistan. Some of these become a part of the Mandaean tradition. Some of these become a part of the Catharist Gnosis, eventually.


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The Daisaniyya of Edessa (Bardesanites), eventually bring us two important groups: The Batiniyya of Abdallah ibn Maymun, and the Yezidis. The latter were also influenced by the Sampsaeans (who had the cult of Shams, the Sun); and they were influenced by native cults, in Kurdistan; the Ashokhs. The later founder of the Yezidis (really the reformer of a much older cult), Sheikh 'Adi, came from Druze territory in the vicinity of Ba'albek. The Druzes in their turn, included native elements, but also included inspiration from the Nusairi, who go back to the original Keepers of the Covenant, the Nozrei-ha-Berit.


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Ophite Migrations, to the 8th Century C. E. Particularly in Mesopotamia, Syria, and Kurdistan.


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Harranian Pagans, Yezidis, Sufis, Isma'ili.


The two in bold, above interest me for many reasons; the first that it confirms, again, that The movement of Biblical Paul, is considered heresy by people who knew the truth, even then. That in itself confirms what the ancient Bible found in Palestine, recently affirms, the exact statement of Quran.

On the Ismaili, it tells us that at some point, after the death of Ismail (AS), the first born of Ibrahim (AS), Makka get its introduction into idolatry, which lasted until Allah raised a Messenger, Prophet among them, to guide them, reintroduce them to the deen of their forebearers, and call mankind worldwide to the same.

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Is 33 lager your favourite beer? I drank Gp rum before sending this signal, hope no misspellings? Just kidding. Thanks for the link

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Cuthans are a Tribe of The samaritans, who were called cuthim in the chaldee dialect according to the Talmud and they were so called in a spirit of derision. They were termed sorcerers because they taught in cutha, their original place of abode and afterward in samaria, the kabala. Casper, Melchior and Balthasar, the chosen arch-priest are shining lights among the eastern Magus. They were both kings and Teachers - The first priest teachers of this glorious knowledge and from these samaritan Cuthans - from these omnipotent priests of the fountain of light, who were called Nerga, according to the Traditions of Talmud, originated the Gypsies, Who through degeneracy lost the consecration of their primordial power.


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i just came across this quote supposedly made by gaddafi, lord knows when.

is he to be taken seriously?

excerpts of a speech attributed to qadhafi in kano,nigeria .translation found in tariq's book "unknown arabs"

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ان اجدادكم عرب اتو من اليمن منذ اكثر من خمسة آلاف سنة الى هذه البقاع ، العرب هم الذين وصلوا الى افريقيا وهم الذين استوطنوا افريقيا وهم الذين سموا (قانا) التي يسمونها (غانا) . (قانا) هذه جنة هذه كلمة عربية . لانها جنة (وغينية) جنينة جنة صغيرة والعرب هم الذين اطلقوا هذه التسميات ، وصلوا الى المحيط الاطلسي ، واستوطنوا هذه الديار ، اصلكم عرب وأهلكم عرب وانتم قبائل عربية .

القبائل اليمنية التي هي موجودة الآن على خط الاستواء . إن قبائل الهوسا هي قبائل (الحاسة) الموجودة في ليبيا وفي النيجر وفي نيجيريا وفي افريقيا ، وان لغة الهوسا هي لغة عربية قديمة ، وأن اللغة السواحلية هي لغة عربية ، وان قبائل الفولاني هي قبائل عربية ، وان قبائل يورب اى اوروبا بمعنى عروبة هي قبائل عربية ، وان قبائل التبو وقبائل القرعان عربية ، والزغاوة عربية ، والتوارق عربية ، وكل هذه القبائل التي تسكن من جنوب الجزيرة العربية الى المحيط الاطلسي في الصحراء هذه كلها قبائل عربية وامريكا تعرف هذا . ان المؤرخون الغربيين يعرفون هذا وبالتالي يريدون تدمير الجنس العربي والعنصر العربي . ان الذي يشن الآن هو حرب بالاضافة الى انها صليبية هي حرب عنصرية عرقية ضد العنصر . ضد العرق العربي ، ضد السامية لان العرب هم الساميون
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Your forefathers were Arabs from Yemen who settled here over five thousand years ago. The Arabs arrived in Africa, settled in Africa and gave the name of jana to what today is called Ghana. Jana, an arabic word, means a small paradise. The Arabs gave all the names you hear when they reached the atlantic Ocean. Your origins are Arab and so are your kith and kin. You are the yemeni tribes residing now on the equator. The hausa tribe is the hausa tribe you find in libya, in niger, and in nigeria. The hausa language is an ancient arabic language as is swahili. The fulani is an Arab tribe and so is the yoruba, or euroba meaning arabism,the tibbu and kor'raan is an arab tribe, the zaghawa is an arab tribe and the tuareq. All the tribes inhabiting the sahara from the south of teh arabian peninsula to the atlantic are arab and america knows this, the western historians knows this and that is why they wish to annihilate these people. the war being waged at the present is not only a crusade but also a racist ethnic war against arab

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Bullshit.Cuthan ko, arabia ni.I laugh in 'Euroba'.Ghaddafi is really trying to agitate for this united Arab and African state.He is the one with a grand plan to be the overall African King.Arabs and African's are not the same.When did Ghana become Jana? I agree with Tuareg and Hausa.But Yoruba is impossible.We are the natives of Nigeria.The traditional culture is unique.We had our own traditional religion before Islam or Christianity.We know our tradition, so ghadaffi cannot come and hoodwink us into joining his madness.The day an Arab becomes king of Africa, then we have become bastards.Who is causing genocide in sudan, somalia and all those African countries? Arabs.So to Mr. Ghaddafi. We sa thanks but no thanks.Tell that to the hausa's and fulani's that have lost their culture because of religion.

^^you forgot gaddafi is already the african king of kings (no idea what that means).

my own is if he can just go easy on the nigerian executions we keep hearing about?

oju lo nroju saanu nah.

lord have mercy.

i no even wan comment on euroba.


the word yoruba don suffer for people's hand sef.

yeruba, Yoruba, euruba, yaraba, etc etc. Dem just dey kick am around like ball.

An aspect of Yoruba history claims they came from Nimrod of Babel. The pronounce it "Lamurudu"

who knows.








ibn batuta's travels:

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Probably the travelling islamic salesman was lamurudu, not the whole Yoruba group.Our tradition, language and culture is very unique and different.It cannot be traced or associated with any other.The over 100 different gods and all sorts show you that its a well established culture and a strong one.Forget the religious interpretation and focus on the traditional.When people want you to accept something foreign they try to find something you can relate with.

yea i read that oduduwa is not really yoruba. he was a foreigner and a descendant of lamurudu from d middle east.
he arrived in yoruba land and became d ruler maybe because he was powerful. and all yoruba ppl claim to be his children. he was a foreigner. we didn't descend from him.

samuel johnson wrote a book on d history of yorubas and mentioned this in it.