I follow McHammer on twitter and recently, I noted he was talking about Jay Z and what not. I didn't really pay much attention to it, but then I saw a video where Hammer took some shots at Jay z. Basically he called Jay Z hellboy, devil worshipper and in the end, baptised a JayZ look alike in the video.

Okay, I said to myself.  A quick search shows that Jayz for no apparent reason took some shots at Hammer in one or two songs (So appalled and good friday)

Jay Z made said he lost 30 million dollars, and unlike Hammer he spent another as he cannot go broke, or something along those lines. I guess hammer perceived this as an insult and hence made a song in reply.


Now, I am not exactly a big fan of diss records to be honest and I can't help but wonder, why do grown men have to result to things like these to be honest.   .   .  So Jay Z is rich, yeah we know that but do you really have to keep flossing this and waxing lyrical about this on every track?  For God's sake he is about to be a father (rumours suggest beyounce is pregnant) and about to touch 50 years.

Hammer on the other hand, should probably have not replied in my own opinion. After all, he was the original "big pimping" way before any rapper out there was doing it. Again, in the eyes of many like me and those who understand the history of rap, he is a legend and should not have stoop so low to make a song that the new generation of hiphop lovers will probably describe as weak.

What ever the case, it is a bit weird hearing two rappers who are meant to be old and wise taking a shot at each other like they are still in their youth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ykRq1V3ZcQ

Lol. . .Give them O4kaa,Streetwise, Genuflect and other acclaimed rap battle-lords here 20 yrs, they'd prolly be dissing themselves like this too

Dissing keeps their hip-hop game going I s'pose 

Like, seriously? Jay Z's flossing is becoming unbearable, like who doesn't have money in rap these days ? Drake ain't even started yet and he's dropped all lyricism and started his own brand of flossing. Heck, I even have more money than Drake. . . Serious

@El

Do you acrually thing Jay has a personal thing with MC Hammer??
That negro is hiphop's walking punchline. . .

The last beef Jay-Z was in was the race war against Cristal.

Calling MC Hammer broke is just like saying George Bush is daft, it's engrained in popular culture . . . MC Hammer is just using it to get people talking.
To think he even has a twitter page.

And there's nothing wrong with talking bout being rich same way there's nothing wrong with Kanye spending his first album talking bout being broke.
You rap about things you can relate to, and he does relate to the G-4 pilots.

Can't touch this rotflmao how times change!

As usual eldee standing up for Jayz while missing the point.  I am a fan of hammer but I have remained objective so far, can you do the same?

No one likes to be the butt of any joke.  Period.  Surely, jayz can make another punchline without referring to hammer if he is a purveyor of punchlines like you want us to believe.  No? 

Let's call a spade, a spade jare. It was a punch below the belt line. Very crude if you ask me.

As per talking about riches, while there is nothing wrong with it, but it breaks every unwritten rules of hip-hop due to the fact that it has been done to death. After rapping about flossing, maybach, chilling in St Tropaze with shirt off while smoking cigar and similar lines, what is left?  You see THAT is the problem.  But as a jayz fan I bet you won't see it so. 

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It may be worth adding that hammer is not broke, he reinvented himself and doing okay, but you don't hear that in the media.

El razur u say uve been objective? Really. . .

Let other posters decide that. .

@topic
jayz is a rap god. . . .he hasnt been flossing all his life,so if he chooses to floss 4rm now til he retires, i see nothn wrong wiv that. . . .

El razur u say uve been objective? Really. . .

Let other posters decide that. .

@topic
jayz is a rap god. . . .he hasnt been flossing all his life,so if he chooses to floss 4rm now til he retires, i see nothn wrong wiv that. . . .

Smh. Please point out where I have been biased so far? Anyone can post wild claims, but at least support it. I stated in my original post that hammer should not have replied as there wasn't a need for it, equally I pointed out stuff about jayz too. Nah wah o, nairaland ain't no place for fair ground.

Guy i only said let people judge ur comments. . .
I didnt -1 ur post,so chill. . .

Guy i only said let people judge ur comments. . .
I didnt -1 ur post,so chill. . .

guys pls give me a link to download raps and instrumentals online

Bleep dat ish about hammer. Its not the first time that he's been used to describe a broke person. Why didnt he diss the production crew on white chicks wen he was made as a reference for a broke nigga. He just makin so much noise cuz hova called his name out in a song. . The line was even the biggest punch on the whole song IMO. 'i lost thirty mil but i gained another thirty/ cuz unlike hammertime, thirty million cant hurt me'. . Shikena.!

ElRazur:

As usual eldee standing up for Jayz while missing the point.  I am a fan of hammer but I have remained objective so far, can you do the same?

No one likes to be the butt of any joke.  Period.  Surely, jayz can make another punchline without referring to hammer if he is a purveyor of punchlines like you want us to believe.  No? 

Let's call a spade, a spade jare. It was a punch below the belt line. Very crude if you ask me.

As per talking about riches, while there is nothing wrong with it, but it breaks every unwritten rules of hip-hop due to the fact that it has been done to death. After rapping about flossing, maybach, chilling in St Tropaze with shirt off while smoking cigar and similar lines, what is left?  You see THAT is the problem.  But as a jayz fan I bet you won't see it so. 

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It may be worth adding that hammer is not broke, he reinvented himself and doing okay, but you don't hear that in the media.

Missing the point?? Nah, I'm arguing against your point.
Why won't you accept that MC Hammer is the pop culture synonym for broke just like Amy Winehouse/Whitney Houston = Crackhead??
It's not a 'punch below the belt' . . .it's everyday talk, Bush=Daft, Osama=Bomber, Mohammed Ali=Champ, Ether=Diss, R Kelly= Peado, JFK=Sniped Down . . . you don't use these words thinking 'I'm hailing this guy' or 'I hate Amy'.

Even in movies and TV shows . . . I remember hearing 'Are we Martha Stewart broke or MC Hammer broke??' on White Chics, why didn't he do a diss song for that?? Is that a below the belt one too??
Nikki Minaj, Drake, Fresh Prince of BelAir and many other brands use MC Hammer's name as punchlines for jokes. . . you deciding to use this as a cheap excuse to criticise Jay-Z's money talk is what I find hilarious.

Now money talk . . . what unwritten rule of rap does it break?? Have you heard Diamonds Are Forever (Remix)??
Oh, so we should ban gangster rap too because it has been done to death?? And yeah, we should stop Usher from singing love songs because Luther Vandross overdid it?? Be objective man . . .

Rules of rap and lyrics are clear . . . self expression is the main thing.
He's expressing the life he lives, with Reasonable Doubt it was drug dealing, now it's being part of corporate America.
I rate him over that Ice Cube that's still acting like he lives in Compton . . . freaking phonies.

Jay-Z in war of words with MC Hammer?You make Jigga look dumb with your title.It should be the other way round.Hammer is the reason rappers diversify their business interests.God don't like broke-a$$ dudes so let Hammertime go phuck himself for tryin' to take a cheap shot.

Much ado about nothing.

Hammer should stop forcing his religious views on people abeg.

Apparently the beef started when Hammer was parlaying with Kanye West during Jesus Walks period, and Hammer asked Kanye about "Hellboy" and word got back to Jay-Z that Hammer is talking slick.

Hammer been hating for a minute.

Eldee,

Me I see your point. While every one may have taken shot at him, and use him to epitomise or symbolise being broke. I think there is a limit to one can take, and I am guessing Hammer reached the limits hence his reaction towards Jay Z. Having said that, I still of the belief that taking shot at such age is pointless in my opinion.


Ibime,

That is another dimension, but from the little info I gathered when I posted the thread, all indication suggest Jigga took the first shoot.

Every Tom, D-i-ck and Ifeanyi needs Jay-Z to start or resurrect their rap careers lol is it today?? . I mean just check out this nucca

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9-HMcuRurw[/flash]

A-40:

Every Tom, D-i-ck and Ifeanyi needs Jay-Z to start or resurrect their rap careers lol is it today?? . I mean just check out this nucca

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9-HMcuRurw[/flash]

Holy Crap??!! Thats SoftPorn. . . What a waste of bandwidth

^^ You sef see wetin i dey talk! I hope he takes Jamie Foxx's advice and stick to phucking cos its pretty clear he is not good at anything else. Very soon even Obesere go dey beef Jay-Z

Even The Sun newspaper is picking up on the story.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/3208849/Jay-Z-is-given-a-Hammer-blow.html

Also Jay Z have no plan to reply. Good on him I think.

http://www.soulculture.co.uk/blogs/jay-z-reacts-to-mc-hammer%E2%80%99s-diss-record/

ElRazur:

Eldee,

Me I see your point. While every one may have taken shot at him, and use him to epitomise or symbolise being broke. I think there is a limit to one can take, and I am guessing Hammer reached the limits hence his reaction towards Jay Z. Having said that, I still of the belief that taking shot at such age is pointless in my opinion.

Nah, he didn't reach the limit, he just found a cash cow, I think him blowing it out of proportion is just daft.

First of all, who is MC?

And Why does everyone perceive Jay-Z in this "everlasting" light? Dude is over, done with, and faded. Drake is in town, gba be!

See two arugbo wey wan dey fight. Agbaya meji

Drake ko Puff Puff ni

Go and hug a tree during an hurricane.

Make me?Groupies of nowadays sha . . . . . . . But come ooo you take style resemble my former classmate Ronke.

Royaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Hehehe no be only Drake na Tractor mscheeww even Nikki Minaj is better than the nucca

eldee:

Nah, he didn't reach the limit, he just found a cash cow, I think him blowing it out of proportion is just daft.

Here we go again, objectivity thrown out of the window.

I already mentioned to you that he is doing well for himself, but I guess you will rather hold on to the news of the 90s and believe that he is STILL bankrupt. As to how a song he made and even edited the video himself (Owns a few production companies) is acting like a cash cow is beyond me.

The point is simple, there wasn't a need for Jigga to mention him in such manner. Take it or leave. Mc Hammer got it wrong by replying. (I am not gonna argue that he is well within his right to make a diss record, you know just like how you try to give justifications for Jay Z)

Also, I noted you tried to deflect attention on to Ice Cube in your previous post, nice try. But that is another one for another day.

MC Hammer?? He should've just faced his ministerial work and let "dissing dogs diss" . . .

Eldee, don't mess with Ice Cube o - he's not ya average MC at all . . . one of the most respected in the game . . . you can't blame him for his boldness and guts.