Can anybody help me with some information about this?
I know nobody has data to waste lol but if you can, please skip to 3:40 to see the masquerade I'm talking about
I stumbled across it on Youtube and it's one of the most graceful masquerade dances I've ever seen. But I'd like to know more about the origin, the mask, the dance steps, etc.
midnighter: Can anybody help me with some information about this?
I know nobody has data to waste lol but if you can, please skip to 3:40 to see the masquerade I'm talking about
I stumbled across it on Youtube and it's one of the most graceful masquerade dances I've ever seen. But I'd like to know more about the origin, the mask, the dance steps, etc.
midnighter: Can anybody help me with some information about this?
I know nobody has data to waste lol but if you can, please skip to 3:40 to see the masquerade I'm talking about
I stumbled across it on Youtube and it's one of the most graceful masquerade dances I've ever seen. But I'd like to know more about the origin, the mask, the dance steps, etc.
I'll explain a bit. The tiv culture is one that is deeply rooted in the supernatural, deeply superstitious and animistic. Growing up in Benue state, one of the prime beliefs that held sway with the tiv cultural sub group was the prime existence of water or marine spirits. Hence it was not uncommon to hear people describe say a woman's beauty with reference to marine or water spirits. Also, the tiv are avid hunters and the glamorization of the art of hunting and/or animals is something they take great pride in. You will see this in the slow snakelike wiggle of their dance steps and in the many masks (animal) they use for their masquerades. This might be unrelated but legend has it that the green snake (Ikyaren) was particularly helpful to the early forbears of the tiv race when they tried crossing a river during a war/disaster aeons ago. Thus, it is prohibited, I'd say almost a taboo, to this day for any tiv son or daughter to kill the green snake. This is perhaps the origin of the much celebrated swange dance of the tiv people. PS: I'm not Tiv. My position is entirely based on my experience living amongst them in the early years of my life. As such, a complete rendition of events may be slightly different from what I've said here.
I'll explain a bit. The tiv culture is one that is deeply rooted in the supernatural, deeply superstitious and animistic. Growing up in Benue state, one of the prime beliefs that held sway with the tiv cultural sub group was the prime existence of water or marine spirits. Hence it was not uncommon to hear people describe say a woman's beauty with reference to marine or water spirits. Also, the tiv are avid hunters and the glamorization of the art of hunting and/or animals is something they take great pride in. You will see this in the slow snakelike wiggle of their dance steps and in the many masks (animal) they use for their masquerades. This might be unrelated but legend has it that the green snake (Ikyaren) was particularly helpful to the early forbears of the tiv race when they tried crossing a river during a war/disaster aeons ago. Thus, it is prohibited, I'd say almost a taboo, to this day for any tiv son or daughter to kill the green snake. This is perhaps the origin of the much celebrated swange dance of the tiv people. PS: I'm not Tiv. My position is entirely based on my experience living amongst them in the early years of my life. As such, a complete rendition of events may be slightly different from what I've said here.
The masquerade dance is just a form of entertainment employed by the tiv people.
I happen to have witnessed it when i was a lil younger. There was a man near my area that usually performed the dance. Many people would gather to watch the performance. He'll be dancing to the music and may sometimes charge at people in other to make them panic. Most people often said that the masquerade is an actual spirit that possesses supernatural power.
Growing up our parents forbade us from watching it, bcus they thought it was a demonic stuff.
Ahdunns: The masquerade dance is just a form of entertainment employed by the tiv people.
I happen to have witnessed it when i was a lil younger. There was a man near my area that usually performed the dance. Many people would gather to watch the performance. He'll be dancing to the music and may sometimes charge at people in other to make them panic. Most people often said that the masquerade is an actual spirit that possesses supernatural power.
Growing up our parents forbade us from watching it, bcus they thought it was a demonic stuff.
I'll contact the man to get more info.
Cool but what did they think was demonic about it?
Is it really in the nature of a mamiwater/ female masquerade to charge?
Cool but what did they think was demonic about it?
Is it really in the nature of a mamiwater/ female masquerade to charge?
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The custome used by the dancers are sometimes scary.... Especially the masks, which are made to look as if it were a real mamiwater's face, which bears a crown..
Also it is not in the mamiwater's masquerade nature to charge, but It is done just 4 the entertainment purpose.
Lastly.... I think the video on your thread is that of the "swange dance/kwaghir"(entertainment) and not that of the masquerade stuff.
What you watched there is neither Tiv mamiwater nor Swange, it is called Tsuwe-tsere, a cat dance. It originates from s Tiv hunter who went on a hunting expedition but could not get a game. On his way home, he stumbled over a wild cat, took it home and gave to his wife to prepare. The taste was so great that he decided to celebrate it with his friends he had invited to join him in the meal. You can see the dance steps of the cat �, the cat �' face worn as mask and the cat �'s head drawn on the dancer's back.
phylshan: What you watched there is neither Tiv mamiwater nor Swange, it is called Tsuwe-tsere, a cat dance. It originates from s Tiv hunter who went on a hunting expedition but could not get a game. On his way home, he stumbled over a wild cat, took it home and gave to his wife to prepare. The taste was so great that he decided to celebrate it with his friends he had invited to join him in the meal. You can see the dance steps of the cat �, the cat �' face worn as mask and the cat �'s head drawn on the dancer's back.
The masquerade I want to know about is at 3:40 but thank you for the information
WHY DO YOU HAVE A SPIRITUAL HUSBAND OR WIFE :the truth none has told you
Some people while in a prayer houses will be informed they are been disturbed by a spiritual wife or husband. Haven heard about it, he and the pastor would rush into conclusion calling it an evil spirit. Next is to start abracadabra prayers, casting and loosing to no avail – otu abụghị n’ezi. The pastor will be blowing the microphone making noise like a lunatic, the congregation belief deliverance is taken place: to no avail _ otu abụghị n’ezi. Kill her, the pastor said. Let her die and leave. I asked, how possible? Is it possible I ask? Can you kill a spirit? Have you heard or seen where one killed a spirit if not in the church where they kill spirit with mouth and microphone, yet things remains same and sometimes get worse yet? Now listen, let me teach you wisdom: saying the truth because truth is life _ eziokwu bụ ndụ. This is why it set the captive free. The moment you know the truth. The truth you know must surely set you free. As a human being, use event as seen in the land of the living to judge event as seen in the spiritual realm. Sometimes, as it’s here on earth, so it’s in the realm of spirit As its in the spiritual realms so it’s in the physical plane. Take for example you see a woman and engaged to her as a young man. After some while, both of you happen to marry happily. Marriage you must remember comes upon an agreement between two opposite parties. Now, after a while, you travel to another space for a mission, another destination where you now find comfort. If you forget calling to say hi to the wife, how will she feel? Answer! What if you are not calling or have lost contact, passion for her and she kept looking after you? Haven gotten to reach out to you, you pretend not knowing her and denied haven nothing to do with her. No matter what she does, you kept pushing her away and ignore all signs and signals. What do you expect the woman to do? Would you not do anything mad if you were in her shoes? Of course you will! If you can as a legitimate wife, you are not against the law if you must suffer him anyhow without wasting his life.
This is what happens between those who got married to mariners before earthly visit. Stop been fooled by Christians and their ignorant teachings. They are spiritual ignorant. All of them whom you call man of God are ofeke in spiritual matters. They are ignorant about spiritual affairs. They are pretenders and deceivers. The reason you must be careful about their false teachings. They only shout and make noise like lunatic. They only know how to make noise not knowing that our spiritual engagement asked for quietness, peace of mind and solitude. The very moment they should spent with wisdom are given for selfishness. The reason wisdom is far seen from them. They lack truth. They know nothing about spirituality and wisdom. Pastors are ofeke (fools) when it comes to spiritual matters. They know absolute nothing as e dey happen in the realm of spirits. They know nothing but go on deceiving people. They must pay the prize at the end of it all. It’s written, you shall reap what you sowed. That’s to say, you shall reap deception as a deceiver. For crying out loud, this people are not deceiving animals. They are deceiving human being. The image of the gods. Turning black what nature has made to be white for their selfish interests. Causing disunity, hatred, disaster between nature and mankind, bridging the gap between spirits and mankind. Why people suffer today! They must reap what they sowed at the end of it all. Wisdom shall judge them! So what is the remedy? this is what a spiritualist will help you do. He/she will first engage you on a spiritual consultation to know if truly you are a mariner perhaps the cause of your problems and encounter. Because it’s not necessarily mariners who encounter spiritual wives. A witch can as well manifest herself as a spiritual wife to cause ruin to someone’s life. Nevertheless, If you are and it happens that you are suffering as a result of spiritual wife/husband, the spiritualist shall consult further, knowing what must be done. It’s then the wife/husband will have to name his or her prize owing to your position, agreement and periodic in the marine. Hence all mariners doesn’t share same position and agreement are differently. Upon this information, he get to inform you about what to be done. No matter what, it must involve a sacrifice! We call it marine ritual settlement – ịkwa ibu mmiri nye ndị ọgbọ na uke. During this sacrifices you have to accept him or her back. We call it ‘ịkwa ibu udo na abụghị ibu nkewa’ a sacrifice for peace not separation. When properly done, he/she will assist you in all aspects of life been in union. That’s the reason for sect (i di n’otu ndị mmiri). Odogwuakataaka: That’s to say if he is good to go. Should he/she is wicked, so jealous. We e plead him or her to accept some things which he refused. If he do, good. If not, we can then upon ọfọ na ogu talk about separation. This you must know asked for wisdom hence his/her stubbornness might be as a result of her workforce, duty, services to deliver. Do you know that these mariners (marine husband and wife’s) are destiny helpers? The very reason they are sometimes filled with jealous and must be treated with caution otherwise one’s life and destiny are placed on danger zone at the cost of services in the name of deliverance. Many are suffering this today! Know whom you run to at the cost of spiritual matters.
: A spirit such as marine wife/husband might proof stubborn owing to agreement reached before your earthly coming. When we come across such like spirit person’s, we plead with him /her to allow you enjoy your earthly life as you wish. Remember, all these are done upon agreement, I as a priest stand to negotiate this as a third party upon ritual sacrifices. It’s not a thing we do by force as seen in the churches. Shouting with a microphone to draw attention of the people, proving how much we can speak in tongues and grammars. It’s never done that way for your safety, success, happiness and longevity. Because it’s not all about today but tomorrow: the case must be handled with care. This is the very reason igbo adage says ‘oké dibịa gbaa àjà, ọ dịka ewere nyee ndị mmụọ n’aka’ when a great/experienced priest performed ritual exercise, it looks like the items was given hand to hand to the spirits. The result remains positive, settling all matters and causing light on one’s path.
If you must work on spiritual ignorance to disintegrate what shouldn’t be disintegrated, the subject (human) must suffer the penalty. One true information people lack in spiritual matters remains the fact that spirits are not at lost (loosing end) in any matter as it involve humanity. The reason you must be careful and stop playing with your spiritual life. Haven known these, I have to state it finally that spiritual husband and wife are not evil. If they are, that’s to say you are evil also hence you are a mariner. If you are not a mariner, you can’t get married to a mariner as a wife or husband. The difference between you and him /her is only that you had the opportunity to exist on earth as a human being after pre-existence as a mariner in waters. The lineage continues as you bear forth children on earth: especially, a case whereby you are a mariner and your earthly husband/wife is also a mariner, all your earthly children shall be mariners. It’s divine It’s a nature mandate! It’s written and can’t be changed. You can’t change what nature has caused to be neither will you condemn it. Who are you to judge? Do you judge upon wisdom or ignorant? Who are you to condemned what nature has made to be? How many years do you have to exist here on earth? How many years do you think these matter have lasted, involving billions of people born and yet to be born? Is it why you are here? All these are meant for pastors to answer. People who dwelt on ignorant, causing ruin to people’s life and destiny. Sending people to early graves and are happy doing that hence it put food on their table. Judgement await us all! Ife onye metere, o weere isi ya buru (evil men do, leave with them and after them). Wise man think and talk about tomorrow, a fool (ofeke) talk about today. Today has only but 24hours in it, tomorrow is indefinite. Don’t be deceived! WhatsApp08103253857 #echoesoftruth1.website2.me
Judeudochukwu: WHY DO YOU HAVE A SPIRITUAL HUSBAND OR WIFE :the truth none has told you
Some people while in a prayer houses will be informed they are been disturbed by a spiritual wife or husband. Haven heard about it, he and the pastor would rush into conclusion calling it an evil spirit. Next is to start abracadabra prayers, casting and loosing to no avail – otu abụghị n’ezi. The pastor will be blowing the microphone making noise like a lunatic, the congregation belief deliverance is taken place: to no avail _ otu abụghị n’ezi. Kill her, the pastor said. Let her die and leave. I asked, how possible? Is it possible I ask? Can you kill a spirit? Have you heard or seen where one killed a spirit if not in the church where they kill spirit with mouth and microphone, yet things remains same and sometimes get worse yet? Now listen, let me teach you wisdom: saying the truth because truth is life _ eziokwu bụ ndụ. This is why it set the captive free. The moment you know the truth. The truth you know must surely set you free. As a human being, use event as seen in the land of the living to judge event as seen in the spiritual realm. Sometimes, as it’s here on earth, so it’s in the realm of spirit As its in the spiritual realms so it’s in the physical plane. Take for example you see a woman and engaged to her as a young man. After some while, both of you happen to marry happily. Marriage you must remember comes upon an agreement between two opposite parties. Now, after a while, you travel to another space for a mission, another destination where you now find comfort. If you forget calling to say hi to the wife, how will she feel? Answer! What if you are not calling or have lost contact, passion for her and she kept looking after you? Haven gotten to reach out to you, you pretend not knowing her and denied haven nothing to do with her. No matter what she does, you kept pushing her away and ignore all signs and signals. What do you expect the woman to do? Would you not do anything mad if you were in her shoes? Of course you will! If you can as a legitimate wife, you are not against the law if you must suffer him anyhow without wasting his life.
This is what happens between those who got married to mariners before earthly visit. Stop been fooled by Christians and their ignorant teachings. They are spiritual ignorant. All of them whom you call man of God are ofeke in spiritual matters. They are ignorant about spiritual affairs. They are pretenders and deceivers. The reason you must be careful about their false teachings. They only shout and make noise like lunatic. They only know how to make noise not knowing that our spiritual engagement asked for quietness, peace of mind and solitude. The very moment they should spent with wisdom are given for selfishness. The reason wisdom is far seen from them. They lack truth. They know nothing about spirituality and wisdom. Pastors are ofeke (fools) when it comes to spiritual matters. They know absolute nothing as e dey happen in the realm of spirits. They know nothing but go on deceiving people. They must pay the prize at the end of it all. It’s written, you shall reap what you sowed. That’s to say, you shall reap deception as a deceiver. For crying out loud, this people are not deceiving animals. They are deceiving human being. The image of the gods. Turning black what nature has made to be white for their selfish interests. Causing disunity, hatred, disaster between nature and mankind, bridging the gap between spirits and mankind. Why people suffer today! They must reap what they sowed at the end of it all. Wisdom shall judge them! So what is the remedy? this is what a spiritualist will help you do. He/she will first engage you on a spiritual consultation to know if truly you are a mariner perhaps the cause of your problems and encounter. Because it’s not necessarily mariners who encounter spiritual wives. A witch can as well manifest herself as a spiritual wife to cause ruin to someone’s life. Nevertheless, If you are and it happens that you are suffering as a result of spiritual wife/husband, the spiritualist shall consult further, knowing what must be done. It’s then the wife/husband will have to name his or her prize owing to your position, agreement and periodic in the marine. Hence all mariners doesn’t share same position and agreement are differently. Upon this information, he get to inform you about what to be done. No matter what, it must involve a sacrifice! We call it marine ritual settlement – ịkwa ibu mmiri nye ndị ọgbọ na uke. During this sacrifices you have to accept him or her back. We call it ‘ịkwa ibu udo na abụghị ibu nkewa’ a sacrifice for peace not separation. When properly done, he/she will assist you in all aspects of life been in union. That’s the reason for sect (i di n’otu ndị mmiri). Odogwuakataaka: That’s to say if he is good to go. Should he/she is wicked, so jealous. We e plead him or her to accept some things which he refused. If he do, good. If not, we can then upon ọfọ na ogu talk about separation. This you must know asked for wisdom hence his/her stubbornness might be as a result of her workforce, duty, services to deliver. Do you know that these mariners (marine husband and wife’s) are destiny helpers? The very reason they are sometimes filled with jealous and must be treated with caution otherwise one’s life and destiny are placed on danger zone at the cost of services in the name of deliverance. Many are suffering this today! Know whom you run to at the cost of spiritual matters.
: A spirit such as marine wife/husband might proof stubborn owing to agreement reached before your earthly coming. When we come across such like spirit person’s, we plead with him /her to allow you enjoy your earthly life as you wish. Remember, all these are done upon agreement, I as a priest stand to negotiate this as a third party upon ritual sacrifices. It’s not a thing we do by force as seen in the churches. Shouting with a microphone to draw attention of the people, proving how much we can speak in tongues and grammars. It’s never done that way for your safety, success, happiness and longevity. Because it’s not all about today but tomorrow: the case must be handled with care. This is the very reason igbo adage says ‘oké dibịa gbaa àjà, ọ dịka ewere nyee ndị mmụọ n’aka’ when a great/experienced priest performed ritual exercise, it looks like the items was given hand to hand to the spirits. The result remains positive, settling all matters and causing light on one’s path.
If you must work on spiritual ignorance to disintegrate what shouldn’t be disintegrated, the subject (human) must suffer the penalty. One true information people lack in spiritual matters remains the fact that spirits are not at lost (loosing end) in any matter as it involve humanity. The reason you must be careful and stop playing with your spiritual life. Haven known these, I have to state it finally that spiritual husband and wife are not evil. If they are, that’s to say you are evil also hence you are a mariner. If you are not a mariner, you can’t get married to a mariner as a wife or husband. The difference between you and him /her is only that you had the opportunity to exist on earth as a human being after pre-existence as a mariner in waters. The lineage continues as you bear forth children on earth: especially, a case whereby you are a mariner and your earthly husband/wife is also a mariner, all your earthly children shall be mariners. It’s divine It’s a nature mandate! It’s written and can’t be changed. You can’t change what nature has caused to be neither will you condemn it. Who are you to judge? Do you judge upon wisdom or ignorant? Who are you to condemned what nature has made to be? How many years do you have to exist here on earth? How many years do you think these matter have lasted, involving billions of people born and yet to be born? Is it why you are here? All these are meant for pastors to answer. People who dwelt on ignorant, causing ruin to people’s life and destiny. Sending people to early graves and are happy doing that hence it put food on their table. Judgement await us all! Ife onye metere, o weere isi ya buru (evil men do, leave with them and after them). Wise man think and talk about tomorrow, a fool (ofeke) talk about today. Today has only but 24hours in it, tomorrow is indefinite. Don’t be deceived! WhatsApp08103253857 #echoesoftruth1.website2.me
Masquarade are more than entertainment. There's a lot of education, history and philosophy behind the artform. Watch closely. Also use the proper name of the masquarade. 'Mami Wata' is not the name, and without the name you will loss the purpose.
OruExpress: Masquarade are more than entertainment. There's a lot of education, history and philosophy behind the artform. Watch closely. Also use the proper name of the masquarade. 'Mami Wata' is not the name, and without the name you will loss the purpose.
That's what the video called it, moreover I am not from Benue and nobody here has corrected the name.
Why can't you yourself tell me what it's called instead of coming and blowing a load of hot air
midnighter: That's what the video called it, moreover I am not from Benue and nobody here has corrected the name.
Why can't you yourself tell me what it's called instead of coming and blowing a load of hot air
Hope you find a way not to take offense. I'm not from benue and don't know the name, but I believe I said something valuable and you should be able to consider it without being personally offended.
Hope you find a way not to take offense. I'm not from benue and don't know the name, but I believe I said something valuable and you should be able to consider it without being personally offended.
Well since you didn't actually address the topic in the OP I thought you were being deliberately antagonistic. Thank you for your input anyway
Judeudochukwu: WHY DO YOU HAVE A SPIRITUAL HUSBAND OR WIFE :the truth none has told you
Some people while in a prayer houses will be informed they are been disturbed by a spiritual wife or husband. Haven heard about it, he and the pastor would rush into conclusion calling it an evil spirit. Next is to start abracadabra prayers, casting and loosing to no avail – otu abụghị n’ezi. The pastor will be blowing the microphone making noise like a lunatic, the congregation belief deliverance is taken place: to no avail _ otu abụghị n’ezi. Kill her, the pastor said. Let her die and leave. I asked, how possible? Is it possible I ask? Can you kill a spirit? Have you heard or seen where one killed a spirit if not in the church where they kill spirit with mouth and microphone, yet things remains same and sometimes get worse yet? Now listen, let me teach you wisdom: saying the truth because truth is life _ eziokwu bụ ndụ. This is why it set the captive free. The moment you know the truth. The truth you know must surely set you free. As a human being, use event as seen in the land of the living to judge event as seen in the spiritual realm. Sometimes, as it’s here on earth, so it’s in the realm of spirit As its in the spiritual realms so it’s in the physical plane. Take for example you see a woman and engaged to her as a young man. After some while, both of you happen to marry happily. Marriage you must remember comes upon an agreement between two opposite parties. Now, after a while, you travel to another space for a mission, another destination where you now find comfort. If you forget calling to say hi to the wife, how will she feel? Answer! What if you are not calling or have lost contact, passion for her and she kept looking after you? Haven gotten to reach out to you, you pretend not knowing her and denied haven nothing to do with her. No matter what she does, you kept pushing her away and ignore all signs and signals. What do you expect the woman to do? Would you not do anything mad if you were in her shoes? Of course you will! If you can as a legitimate wife, you are not against the law if you must suffer him anyhow without wasting his life.
This is what happens between those who got married to mariners before earthly visit. Stop been fooled by Christians and their ignorant teachings. They are spiritual ignorant. All of them whom you call man of God are ofeke in spiritual matters. They are ignorant about spiritual affairs. They are pretenders and deceivers. The reason you must be careful about their false teachings. They only shout and make noise like lunatic. They only know how to make noise not knowing that our spiritual engagement asked for quietness, peace of mind and solitude. The very moment they should spent with wisdom are given for selfishness. The reason wisdom is far seen from them. They lack truth. They know nothing about spirituality and wisdom. Pastors are ofeke (fools) when it comes to spiritual matters. They know absolute nothing as e dey happen in the realm of spirits. They know nothing but go on deceiving people. They must pay the prize at the end of it all. It’s written, you shall reap what you sowed. That’s to say, you shall reap deception as a deceiver. For crying out loud, this people are not deceiving animals. They are deceiving human being. The image of the gods. Turning black what nature has made to be white for their selfish interests. Causing disunity, hatred, disaster between nature and mankind, bridging the gap between spirits and mankind. Why people suffer today! They must reap what they sowed at the end of it all. Wisdom shall judge them! So what is the remedy? this is what a spiritualist will help you do. He/she will first engage you on a spiritual consultation to know if truly you are a mariner perhaps the cause of your problems and encounter. Because it’s not necessarily mariners who encounter spiritual wives. A witch can as well manifest herself as a spiritual wife to cause ruin to someone’s life. Nevertheless, If you are and it happens that you are suffering as a result of spiritual wife/husband, the spiritualist shall consult further, knowing what must be done. It’s then the wife/husband will have to name his or her prize owing to your position, agreement and periodic in the marine. Hence all mariners doesn’t share same position and agreement are differently. Upon this information, he get to inform you about what to be done. No matter what, it must involve a sacrifice! We call it marine ritual settlement – ịkwa ibu mmiri nye ndị ọgbọ na uke. During this sacrifices you have to accept him or her back. We call it ‘ịkwa ibu udo na abụghị ibu nkewa’ a sacrifice for peace not separation. When properly done, he/she will assist you in all aspects of life been in union. That’s the reason for sect (i di n’otu ndị mmiri). Odogwuakataaka: That’s to say if he is good to go. Should he/she is wicked, so jealous. We e plead him or her to accept some things which he refused. If he do, good. If not, we can then upon ọfọ na ogu talk about separation. This you must know asked for wisdom hence his/her stubbornness might be as a result of her workforce, duty, services to deliver. Do you know that these mariners (marine husband and wife’s) are destiny helpers? The very reason they are sometimes filled with jealous and must be treated with caution otherwise one’s life and destiny are placed on danger zone at the cost of services in the name of deliverance. Many are suffering this today! Know whom you run to at the cost of spiritual matters.
: A spirit such as marine wife/husband might proof stubborn owing to agreement reached before your earthly coming. When we come across such like spirit person’s, we plead with him /her to allow you enjoy your earthly life as you wish. Remember, all these are done upon agreement, I as a priest stand to negotiate this as a third party upon ritual sacrifices. It’s not a thing we do by force as seen in the churches. Shouting with a microphone to draw attention of the people, proving how much we can speak in tongues and grammars. It’s never done that way for your safety, success, happiness and longevity. Because it’s not all about today but tomorrow: the case must be handled with care. This is the very reason igbo adage says ‘oké dibịa gbaa àjà, ọ dịka ewere nyee ndị mmụọ n’aka’ when a great/experienced priest performed ritual exercise, it looks like the items was given hand to hand to the spirits. The result remains positive, settling all matters and causing light on one’s path.
If you must work on spiritual ignorance to disintegrate what shouldn’t be disintegrated, the subject (human) must suffer the penalty. One true information people lack in spiritual matters remains the fact that spirits are not at lost (loosing end) in any matter as it involve humanity. The reason you must be careful and stop playing with your spiritual life. Haven known these, I have to state it finally that spiritual husband and wife are not evil. If they are, that’s to say you are evil also hence you are a mariner. If you are not a mariner, you can’t get married to a mariner as a wife or husband. The difference between you and him /her is only that you had the opportunity to exist on earth as a human being after pre-existence as a mariner in waters. The lineage continues as you bear forth children on earth: especially, a case whereby you are a mariner and your earthly husband/wife is also a mariner, all your earthly children shall be mariners. It’s divine It’s a nature mandate! It’s written and can’t be changed. You can’t change what nature has caused to be neither will you condemn it. Who are you to judge? Do you judge upon wisdom or ignorant? Who are you to condemned what nature has made to be? How many years do you have to exist here on earth? How many years do you think these matter have lasted, involving billions of people born and yet to be born? Is it why you are here? All these are meant for pastors to answer. People who dwelt on ignorant, causing ruin to people’s life and destiny. Sending people to early graves and are happy doing that hence it put food on their table. Judgement await us all! Ife onye metere, o weere isi ya buru (evil men do, leave with them and after them). Wise man think and talk about tomorrow, a fool(ofeke) talk about today. Today has only but 24hours in it, tomorrow is indefinite. Don’t be deceived! WhatsApp08103253857 #echoesoftruth1.website2.me
s then the wife/husband will have to name his or her prize owing to your position, agreement and periodic in the marine. Hence all mariners doesn
uhmm existence is deeper than we tink...nice piece
@ Judeudochukwu, that was a wonder piece from you. I've gotten several replies to my prayers. In fact, all have been instantaneous but no victory over spirit wife. Sometimes, I don't see her for up to three months and when I do at most, no wet dreams.
There must be more to it than prayers. I'm a bit spiritually sensitive. Hence, whenever any strange spirit is around, I can if lucky sense them. Sometimes when I pray, I hear her say odeshi, ewo, e no enter. Anyway, I'm not backing out of prayers. An iron must bend for the other. No vex OP for d derail. I no too get data. I for watch am.
Modified: two weeks ago, a woman introduced herself and her several children to me as my enemy's (not me) spirit wife and children respectively. I woke up sad. Immediately, I closed my eyes, said few prayers and dreamt that most (maybe all) d children died.
Davoneskay: @ Judeudochukwu, that was a wonder piece from you. I've gotten several replies to my prayers. In fact, all have been instantaneous but no victory over spirit wife. Sometimes, I don't see her for up to three months and when I do at most, no wet dreams.
There must be more to it than prayers. I'm a bit spiritually sensitive. Hence, whenever any strange spirit is around, I can if lucky sense them. Sometimes when I pray, I hear her say odeshi, ewo, e no enter. Anyway, I'm not backing out of prayers. An iron must bend for the other. No vex OP for d derail. I no too get data. I for watch am.
Modified: two weeks ago, a woman introduced herself and her several children to me as my enemy's (not me) spirit wife and children respectively. I woke up sad. Immediately, I closed my eyes, said few prayers and dreamt that most (maybe all) d children died.
Interesting. Same thing that happened to me in my sleep. 2 kids and one fine pale skin looking White woman. I was told she is my wife and they are my kids. Two annoying looking humanoid boys. But they looked curious and innocent , though. Like you too,I woke up sad and prayed jare...I refused to accept..I rebuked it. Lol. Haven't seen the kids ever since, but I keep seeing a lady or young girl who uses different faces of known and unknown ladies to come and seduce me in the dream. But we keep praying anyways... Wahala no dey finish
Interesting. Same thing that happened to me in my sleep. 2 kids and one fine pale skin looking White woman. I was told she is my wife and they are my kids. Two annoying looking humanoid boys. But they looked curious and innocent , though. Like you too,I woke up sad and prayed jare...I refused to accept..I rebuked it. Lol. Haven't seen the kids ever since, but I keep seeing a lady or young girl who uses different faces of known and unknown ladies to come and seduce me in the dream. But we keep praying anyways... Wahala no dey finish
To overcome, one should be sexually chaste. Prayer alone won't solve it. They come and go. They'll leave when one is sexually pure n return when one begin to live sexually impure life. Did you know that several people battle this shiit?
but what did they think was demonic about it?
