Masha Allah

Late prophet Muhammad self loved porn tinz while alive

I don't need to ask Muslims why they behave the way they do. The type of life that was lived by the founder of islam is the prototype for all Muslims to follow
So in the same way that the founder of islam was noted for attacking helpless civilian populations and killing their men to capture the women as sex slaves, today's Muslims are doing the same just like their spiritual founder attacked the poor Jews early in the morning on their way to their farms.

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Secondly, unless you're trying to play word games, you'll know that pornographic addiction cannot exist without masturbation and the fact that islamic scholars are divided over an issue doesn't invalidate such a divisive issue. It is only unanimity that counts when it comes to condemnation of a practice as haram.

Newnas:


You should ask them. I'm not their member so I don't know their justification for what they're doing.

I've told you what is in the Qur'an.



Firstly, that report is unverified.

Secondly, it doesn't include porn. You're the one who's including it. And I've explained to you that they're different. If you choose to be adamant then I have no power to twist your heart.

There are different editions and different page numberings.

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In this edition the numbering is different:

RealLordZeus:

Actually what he posted was not true
@ TheExecutioner, the Christ I believed in is not a liar, definitely you are not his true follower.
Here is the exact page of the text

TheExecutioner:
There are different editions and different page numberings.

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In this edition the numbering is different:

Why not screenshot the exact page of your own edition so we can all see showing details like heading and page number. Thanks in advance

TheExecutioner:
I don't need to ask Muslims why they behave the way they do. The type of life that was lived by the founder of islam is the prototype for all Muslims to follow
So in the same way that the founder of islam was noted for attacking helpless civilian populations and killing their men to capture the women as sex slaves, today's Muslims are doing the same just like their spiritual founder attacked the poor Jews early in the morning on their way to their farms.

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Secondly, unless you're trying to play word games, you'll know that pornographic addiction cannot exist without masturbation and the fact that islamic scholars are divided over an issue doesn't invalidate such a divisive issue. It is only unanimity that counts when it comes to condemnation of a practice as haram.

Hmmm! Seems you enjoy manipulating things to suit your own purpose quoting article out of context to confuse ppl!.

The Muslims set out for Khaybar in May 628, Muharram 7 AH.[32] According to different sources, the strength of the Muslim army varied from 1,400 to 1,800 men and between 100 and 200 horses. Some Muslim women (including Umm Salama) also joined the army, in order to take care of the wounded.[33] Compared to the Khaybarian fighting strength of 10,000, the Muslim contingent was small, but this provided an advantage, allowing them to swiftly and quietly march to Khaybar (in only three days[34]), catching the city by surprise. It also made Khaybar overconfident.[35] As a result, the Jews failed to mount a centrally organized defense, leaving each family to defend its own fortified redoubt.[10][28] This underestimation of the Muslims allowed Muhammad to conquer each fortress one by one with relative ease, claiming food, weapons, and land as he went.[36] One Muslim reported:"We met the workers of Khaybar coming out in the morning with their spades and baskets. When they saw the apostle and the army they cried, 'Muhammad with his force,' and turned tail and fled. The apostle said, 'Allah Akbar! Khaybar is destroyed. When we arrive in a people's square it is a bad morning for those who have been warned.'"[37]

The Jews, after a rather bloody skirmish in front of one of the fortresses, avoided combat in the open country. Most of the fighting consisted of shooting arrows at a great distance. On at least one occasion the Muslims were able to storm the fortresses. The besieged Jews managed to organize, under the cover of darkness, the transfer of people and treasures from one fortress to another as needed to make their resistance more effective.[10]

Neither the Jews nor the Muslims were prepared for an extended siege, and both suffered from a lack of provisions. The Jews, initially overconfident in their strength, failed to prepare even enough water supplies for a short siege.[38] Early in the campaign, the Muslims' hunger caused them to slaughter and cook several asses which they had taken during their conquest. Yet no one in the Muslim army had eaten that meat as Muhammad didn't see the men were at the point of starve to allow it. Muhammad, who had determined that the eating of horse, mule, and ass meat was forbidden, made the exception that one can eat forbidden foods so long as scarcity leaves no other option.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar

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Even with what you quote, you unconsciously extolled the virtues of the Holy Prophet, He is not someone that will murder ppl during the night. The context of that Hadith is the battle of Khaybar and not a murderous attack as you described above.

Now let's look at the below verses in your Bible
1.(Joshua 6:17, 21;
Joshua 6:17-21 New International Version (NIV)

17 The city and all that is in it are to be devoted[a] to the Lord. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall be spared, because she hid the spies we sent. 18 But keep away from the devoted things, so that you will not bring about your own destruction by taking any of them. Otherwise you will make the camp of Israel liable to destruction and bring trouble on it. 19 All the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron are sacred to the Lord and must go into his treasury.”

20 When the trumpets sounded, the army shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the men gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so everyone charged straight in, and they took the city. 21 They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys

2. Deuteronomy 20:16-17
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 New International Version (NIV)

16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded

Later texts even criticise the Israelites for their failure to obey the command (Psalm 106:34-42).
Psalm 106:34-42 King James Version (KJV)

34 They did not destroy the nations, concerning whom the Lord commanded them:

35 But were mingled among the heathen, and learned their works.

36 And they served their idols: which were a snare unto them.

37 Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,

38 And shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood.

39 Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions.

40 Therefore was the wrath of the Lord kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance.

41 And he gave them into the hand of the heathen; and they that hated them ruled over them.

42 Their enemies also oppressed them, and they were brought into subjection under their hand

TheExecutioner:
[s]I don't need to ask Muslims why they behave the way they do. The type of life that was lived by the founder of islam is the prototype for all Muslims to follow
So in the same way that the founder of islam was noted for attacking helpless civilian populations and killing their men to capture the women as sex slaves, today's Muslims are doing the same just like their spiritual founder attacked the poor Jews early in the morning on their way to their farms.[/s]

Now you're fleeing from the topic you created. Shows that you've acknowledged that you're upon falsehood.

[s]Secondly, unless you're trying to play word games, you'll know that pornographic addiction cannot exist without masturbation and the fact that islamic scholars are divided over an issue doesn't invalidate such a divisive issue. It is only unanimity that counts when it comes to condemnation of a practice as haram.[/s]

Empty.

gravity4:

As a Christian I'm beginning to see Islam as the true Religion

Shut the mess up, lie lie kill you dia.
No be only true religion na truce oblivion .

Newnas:


Now you're fleeing from the topic you created. Shows that you've acknowledged that you're upon falsehood.





Empty.

17.81. And say: "The truth has come, and falsehood has vanished. Surely falsehood is ever bound to vanish by its very nature. "

Israel was simply fulfilling Divine Providence by occupying the land promised to their ancestors and protecting themselves from annihilation, unlike one randy goat fake "prophet" who only knew how to terrorise poor, defenceless villagers on their way to their farms.

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Tiny Israel conquered 6 Nations just like they humiliated 9 Agbaya Arab nations not long ago

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RealLordZeus:

Hmmm! Seems you enjoy manipulating things to suit your own purpose quoting article out of context to confuse ppl!.



Even with what you quote, you unconsciously extolled the virtues of the Holy Prophet, He is not someone that will murder ppl during the night. The context of that Hadith is the battle of Khaybar and not a murderous attack as you described above.

Now let's look at the below verses in your Bible
1.(Joshua 6:17, 21;
Joshua 6:17-21 New International Version (NIV)

17 The city and all that is in it are to be devoted[a] to the Lord. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall be spared, because she hid the spies we sent. 18 But keep away from the devoted things, so that you will not bring about your own destruction by taking any of them. Otherwise you will make the camp of Israel liable to destruction and bring trouble on it. 19 All the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron are sacred to the Lord and must go into his treasury.”

20 When the trumpets sounded, the army shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the men gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so everyone charged straight in, and they took the city. 21 They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys

2. Deuteronomy 20:16-17
Deuteronomy 20:16-17 New International Version (NIV)

16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded

Later texts even criticise the Israelites for their failure to obey the command (Psalm 106:34-42).
Psalm 106:34-42 King James Version (KJV)

34 They did not destroy the nations, concerning whom the Lord commanded them:

35 But were mingled among the heathen, and learned their works.

36 And they served their idols: which were a snare unto them.

37 Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,

38 And shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood.

39 Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions.

40 Therefore was the wrath of the Lord kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance.

41 And he gave them into the hand of the heathen; and they that hated them ruled over them.

42 Their enemies also oppressed them, and they were brought into subjection under their hand

gravity4:

As a Christian I'm beginning to see Islam as the true Religion

In Sha Allah, soon you will realize the truth,
May Allah guide you to the right path ..

TheExecutioner:

Israel was simply fulfilling Divine Providence by occupying the land promised to their ancestors and protecting themselves from annihilation, unlike one randy goat fake "prophet" who only knew how to terrorise poor, defenceless villagers on their way to their farms.

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Tiny Israel conquered 6 Nations just like they humiliated 9 Agbaya Arab nations not long ago

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Its either you are a lover of falsehood or you are confused.
1. You pull out a non existent article about the Prophet encouragement on masturbations, I proved you wrong, asking for a counterclaim
2. Your colleague argued about the Prophet conduct of the battle of Khaybar, I also prove him wrong by showing it is not a massacre but a battle in which the Jews outnumbered the Muslims, yet you adamantly stated that it's killing of peaceful people.
3. Mass murder in the Bible was Promise Fulfilment but the battle of Khaybar where the Jew outnumbered the Muslims was an act of Terrorism! Does this sound sensible
4. You are gloating over a war that cost thousands of Palestinians lives and still affecting them, yet Muslim are the violent ones.
Please have a rethink

gravity4:

As a Christian I'm beginning to see Islam as the true Religion

Alhamdulilah. May Allah guide you and us (Ameen)

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RealLordZeus:

Its either you are a lover of falsehood or you are confused.
1. You pull out a non existent article about the Prophet encouragement on masturbations, I proved you wrong, asking for a counterclaim
2. Your colleague argued about the Prophet conduct of the battle of Khaybar, I also prove him wrong by showing it is not a massacre but a battle in which the Jews outnumbered the Muslims, yet you adamantly stated that it's killing of peaceful people.
3. Mass murder in the Bible was Promise Fulfilment but the battle of Khaybar where the Jew outnumbered the Muslims was an act of Terrorism! Does this sound sensible
4. You are gloating over a war that cost thousands of Palestinians lives and still affecting them, yet Muslim are the violent ones.
Please have a rethink

TheExecutioner:

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That particular conflict was the battle of Khaybar! I have provided an extract and a link to in that regard! Read it up and stop living in delusion.
You keep going circles, you have to pick a stand, The Muslims, are they violent or not?
In your earlier post, you said there were violent, I provided some biblical verses about the true meaning of violence.
You change your stance and said they were cowards and six Muslim nations were defeated by the Jews
Now you are rambling that they are coward.
Pick a premise!
I suspect you might be a kid as your argument are incoherent, so do not be surprise if I decide to ignore you.
But if can come up with logical issues, I will definitely give you a reply

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RealLordZeus:

That particular conflict was the battle of Khaybar! I have provided an extract and a link to in that regard! Read it up and stop living in delusion.
You keep going circles, you have to pick a stand, The Muslims, are they violent or not?
In your earlier post, you said there were violent, I provided some biblical verses about the true meaning of violence.
You change your stance and said they were cowards and six Muslim nations were defeated by the Jews
Now you are rambling that they are coward.
Pick a premise!
I suspect you might be a kid as your argument are incoherent, so do not be surprise if I decide to ignore you.
But if can come up with logical issues, I will definitely give you a reply

TheExecutioner:

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I will forgive your limited knowledge, the Hadith is not an history book of a sort. However historians captured the event of that war and I've provided the proof
In order to uphold the truth, I will repost the link to the article
Link = https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar
Further text: Haykal, Muhammad Husayn. Ch. "The Campaign of Khaybar and Missions to Kings". The Life of Muhammad. Shorouk International, 1983.


The Muslims set out for Khaybar in May 628, Muharram 7 AH.[32] According to different sources, the strength of the Muslim army varied from 1,400 to 1,800 men and between 100 and 200 horses. Some Muslim women (including Umm Salama) also joined the army, in order to take care of the wounded.[33] Compared to the Khaybarian fighting strength of 10,000, the Muslim contingent was small, but this provided an advantage, allowing them to swiftly and quietly march to Khaybar (in only three days[34]), catching the city by surprise. It also made Khaybar overconfident.[35] As a result, the Jews failed to mount a centrally organized defense, leaving each family to defend its own fortified redoubt.[10][28] This underestimation of the Muslims allowed Muhammad to conquer each fortress one by one with relative ease, claiming food, weapons, and land as he went.[36] One Muslim reported:"We met the workers of Khaybar coming out in the morning with their spades and baskets. When they saw the apostle and the army they cried, 'Muhammad with his force,' and turned tail and fled. The apostle said, 'Allah Akbar! Khaybar is destroyed. When we arrive in a people's square it is a bad morning for those who have been warned.'"[37]

The Jews, after a rather bloody skirmish in front of one of the fortresses, avoided combat in the open country. Most of the fighting consisted of shooting arrows at a great distance. On at least one occasion the Muslims were able to storm the fortresses. The besieged Jews managed to organize, under the cover of darkness, the transfer of people and treasures from one fortress to another as needed to make their resistance more effective.[10]

Neither the Jews nor the Muslims were prepared for an extended siege, and both suffered from a lack of provisions. The Jews, initially overconfident in their strength, failed to prepare even enough water supplies for a short siege.[38] Early in the campaign, the Muslims' hunger caused them to slaughter and cook several asses which they had taken during their conquest. Yet no one in the Muslim army had eaten that meat as Muhammad didn't see the men were at the point of starve to allow it. Muhammad, who had determined that the eating of horse, mule, and ass meat was forbidden, made the exception that one can eat forbidden foods so long as scarcity leaves no other option.[31]

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If you decided that proof is not enough and will insist on an Hadith, then you should quote me with the biblical verses for The Six day war of 1967

For you to know how lame your post sounds!
1. I requested for your copy of your purported article on masturbations, you are yet to provide it since morning.
2. You labelled the Muslims as violent people, I showed you a mass murder instigating verse in the Bible. You did not refute it but reply that it's God way of fulfilling promises to his people. Now I will like you to answer this questions
i. Are you indirectly accepting that your own God is the author of those mass murders
ii. If Yes! Are you not violent in your own way too

3. Regarding the Khaybar battle, I've provided evidence that it's not a massacre of peaceful folks as you described, but a battle between a lesser number of Muslims and larger amount of Jews, but you remain adamant choosing what you want to believe, I don't have control over that. Even Jesus Christ was reported in Mark 4:12 KJV: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand.

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RealLordZeus:

I will forgive your limited knowledge, the Hadith is not an history book of a sort. However historians captured the event of that war and I've provided the proof
In order to uphold the truth, I will repost the link to the article
Link = https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar
Further text: Haykal, Muhammad Husayn. Ch. "The Campaign of Khaybar and Missions to Kings". The Life of Muhammad. Shorouk International, 1983.


The Muslims set out for Khaybar in May 628, Muharram 7 AH.[32] According to different sources, the strength of the Muslim army varied from 1,400 to 1,800 men and between 100 and 200 horses. Some Muslim women (including Umm Salama) also joined the army, in order to take care of the wounded.[33] Compared to the Khaybarian fighting strength of 10,000, the Muslim contingent was small, but this provided an advantage, allowing them to swiftly and quietly march to Khaybar (in only three days[34]), catching the city by surprise. It also made Khaybar overconfident.[35] As a result, the Jews failed to mount a centrally organized defense, leaving each family to defend its own fortified redoubt.[10][28] This underestimation of the Muslims allowed Muhammad to conquer each fortress one by one with relative ease, claiming food, weapons, and land as he went.[36] One Muslim reported:"We met the workers of Khaybar coming out in the morning with their spades and baskets. When they saw the apostle and the army they cried, 'Muhammad with his force,' and turned tail and fled. The apostle said, 'Allah Akbar! Khaybar is destroyed. When we arrive in a people's square it is a bad morning for those who have been warned.'"[37]

The Jews, after a rather bloody skirmish in front of one of the fortresses, avoided combat in the open country. Most of the fighting consisted of shooting arrows at a great distance. On at least one occasion the Muslims were able to storm the fortresses. The besieged Jews managed to organize, under the cover of darkness, the transfer of people and treasures from one fortress to another as needed to make their resistance more effective.[10]

Neither the Jews nor the Muslims were prepared for an extended siege, and both suffered from a lack of provisions. The Jews, initially overconfident in their strength, failed to prepare even enough water supplies for a short siege.[38] Early in the campaign, the Muslims' hunger caused them to slaughter and cook several asses which they had taken during their conquest. Yet no one in the Muslim army had eaten that meat as Muhammad didn't see the men were at the point of starve to allow it. Muhammad, who had determined that the eating of horse, mule, and ass meat was forbidden, made the exception that one can eat forbidden foods so long as scarcity leaves no other option.[31]

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If you decided that proof is not enough and will insist on an Hadith, then you should quote me with the biblical verses for The Six day war of 1967

For you to know how lame your post sounds!
1. I requested for your copy of your purported article on masturbations, you are yet to provide it since morning.
2. You labelled the Muslims as violent people, I showed you a mass murder instigating verse in the Bible. You did not refute it but reply that it's God way of fulfilling promises to his people. Now I will like you to answer this questions
i. Are you indirectly accepting that your own God is the author of those mass murders
ii. If Yes! Are you not violent in your own way too

3. Regarding the Khaybar battle, I've provided evidence that it's not a massacre of peaceful folks as you described, but a battle between a lesser number of Muslims and larger amount of Jews, but you remain adamant choosing what you want to believe, I don't have control over that. Even Jesus Christ was reported in Mark 4:12 KJV: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand.

TheExecutioner:

Your own source about The Six days war of 1967 was a blog compiled in the 2000s,
A 2017 article written by a journalist was right on a war that happened 50 years ago but you rejected the works of known historians including a properly referenced Wikipedia article. Your case is somehow.
You ask me to provide a written article by the Companions about the war of Khaybar that happens around 2000 years ago, but you can't provide a first hand documentary of The Six days war that happened 52 years ago instead relied on blogs and articles.

From your own point of view, Your blogs and articles are correct source while a properly referenced Wikipedia with the work of many historians are not correct! Where did that epiphany come from! Does it sound sensible?

The work you wrongly quoted on masturbations, did you know when it was compiled.

Stop wanking in ignorance

Now let's agree that you are right!
Consider the below about your New testament

The Muratorian Canon, which is believed to date to 200 A.D., is the earliest compilation of canonical texts resembling the New Testament.

It was not until the 5th century that all the different Christian churches came to a basic agreement on Biblical canon. The books that eventually were considered canon reflect the times they were embraced as much the times of the events they portray.
Source: https://www.history.com/topics/religion/bible

The earliest text of the New Testament was compiled 200 years after the death of Jesus Christ!
Even those were still not of acceptable standard and still went through numerous revision which is still ongoing to the present times.
Since you state that articles that are written or compiled by historians are false, can we conclude that your Bible is a sham (Apologies to reasonable Christians following the thread, I'm simply follow his irrational deduction)
If you can agree to that, then we can discard the articles!

I will gladly wait for your answer to this, but please in a manner that Jesus Christ would have, you are a Christian and will like to behave like Christ right? .
The Christ I know will not use derogatory manner of speech, so henceforth start behaving like him and learn how to speak with people properly

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RealLordZeus:

Your own source about The Six days war of 1967 was a blog compiled in the 2000s,
A 2017 article written by a journalist was right on a war that happened 50 years ago but you rejected the works of known historians including a properly referenced Wikipedia article. Your case is somehow.
You ask me to provide a written article by the Companions about the war of Khaybar that happens around 2000 years ago, but you can't provide a first hand documentary of The Six days war that happened 52 years ago instead relied on blogs and articles.

From your own point of view, Your blogs and articles are correct source while a properly referenced Wikipedia with the work of many historians are not correct! Where did that epiphany come from! Does it sound sensible?

The work you wrongly quoted on masturbations, did you know when it was compiled.

Stop wanking in ignorance

Now let's agree that you are right!
Consider the below about your New testament

The earliest text of the New Testament was compiled 200 years after the death of Jesus Christ!
Even those were still not of acceptable standard and still went through numerous revision which is still ongoing to the present times.
Since you state that articles that are written or compiled by historians are false, can we conclude that your Bible is a sham (Apologies to reasonable Christians following the thread, I'm simply follow his irrational deduction)
If you can agree to that, then we can discard the articles!

I will gladly wait for your answer to this, but please in a manner that Jesus Christ would have, you are a Christian and will like to behave like Christ right? .
The Christ I know will not use derogatory manner of speech, so henceforth start behaving like him and learn how to speak with people properly

TheExecutioner:

It is now obvious you are not mature enough to engage in a discussion
1. You purposely choose to ignore my last question if to consider the Bible a sham because it is written about 2000 years ago
2. You quote an Hadith out of context but you termed a full report as false because it is written by historians
3. Your source of alleged masturbations instructions, you failed to provide
4. Your evidence for the six days wars was historical archived materials which I agree with but you don't want to accept another historical archived materials because it contradict your purpose.


Like I said earlier, I don't have control over your heart but stop making a fool of yourself in public, no matter how clear the truth is, you won't be able to understand.
You are no more longer worthy of my time as it's very clear you are incapable of sensible opinions! Your view and experience of life is very limited.

In conclusion, I will leave you with the whole references about the Wikipedia article on the Khaybar battle. If you can like, you can discredit all those authors, call them dimwits, they include Muslims, Christian and Atheists.
Last word of advice, Try to live a Christ-like life and see how your life will be.


You were right about the error in date, that was a slip, my mind was on the bible dating. Thanks for the correction


Regards


References as promised, I apologize to other readers for bringing such unnecessary texts here but I will like him to discredit all this authors, calling them dim wits as usual

References Edit

^ a b http://www.islamstory.com/غزوة-خيبر-1-2 Archived 2016-10-25 at the Wayback Machine
^ a b Lings (1983), p. 264
^ Lings (1983), p. 255-6
^ "Massacre in Medina", Segula Magazine (3)
^ "Ali". Encyclopædia Britannica Online.
^ Islamic Historical Novel: Perang Khaibar (Khaybar War) by Abdul Latip Talib, 2011 (Malaysia)
^ Stillman, Norman (1979). The Jews of Arab Lands: A History and Source Book. Philadelphia: Jewish Publication Society of America. p. 14. ISBN 0-8276-0198-0.
^ al-Halabi, Nur al-Din. "10". Sirat-i-Halbiyyah. 2. Uttar Pradesh: Idarah Qasmiyyah Deoband. p. 34.
^ Rubin, Uri (1990). The Assassination of Kaʿb b. al-Ashraf. Vol. 32. pp. 65–71.
^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m Veccia Vaglieri, L. "Khaybar", Encyclopaedia of Islam
^ Stillman 19
^ a b Stillman 18–19
^ a b Lewis 10
^ Stillman 14, 16-17
^ Watt, Muhammad at Medina, p. 34-37.
^ Nomani, Sirat al-Nabi, p. 368-370.
^ al-Halabi, Sirat-i-Halbiyyah (Vol. II, part 12), p. 19.
^ Lings, Muhammad: his life based on the earliest sources, p. 215-6.
^ Peterson, Muhammad: the prophet of God, p. 127.
^ a b Nomani (1979), vol. II, pg. 156
^ Urwa, Fath al-Bari, Vol. VII, pg. 363
^ Stillman 17
^ Zurqani, Ala al-Mawahib, Vol. II, p.196, Egypt
^ Ibn Ishaq, A. Guillaume, p. 665-666
^ Watt 189
^ Lings (1987), p. 249
^ Nomani (1979), vol. II, pg. 159
^ a b c Stillman 18
^ Watt (1956), pg. 93
^ al-Tabari (1997). The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam. Albany : State University Of New York. p. 116.
^ a b c P. Bearman; Th. Bianquis; C.E. Bosworth; E. van Donzel; W.P. Heinrichs (eds.). "Khaybar". Encyclopaedia of Islam, Second Edition. Brill Online. Retrieved April 18, 2012.
^ Watt 1956, pg. 341
^ Nomani (1979), vol. II, pg. 162
^ Haykal, Muhammad Husayn. Ch. "The Campaign of Khaybar and Missions to Kings". The Life of Muhammad. Shorouk International, 1983.
^ Lings (1983), pg. 263
^ a b al-Tabari (1997). The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam. Albany : State University Of New York. p. 117.
^ Spencer, Robert (14 August 2006). "Khaybar, Khaybar, O Jews". Human Events. 62 (27): 12.[permanent dead link]
^ Watt (1956), pg. 219
^ a b Watt (1956), pg. 218
^ "Sahih Bukhari". Archived from the original on 16 May 2013. Retrieved 24 May 2013.
^ al-Tabari (1997). The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam. Albany : State University Of New York. pp. 119–121.
^ Gibbon, D&F of Roman Empire Vol V. page 365
^ a b c Ibn Hisham. Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya (The Life of Muhammad). English translation in Guillame (1955), pp. 145–146
^ "The Conquest of Khyber". al-islam.org. 2013-11-10. Retrieved 18 July 2015.
^ "The Battle of Khaybar". a2youth.com. Retrieved 19 July 2015.
^ a b c d Sahih Muslim, 19:4450
^ a b Harun, Abdus Salam. M. English Translation of Sirat Ibn Hisham. Al-Falah Foundation.
^ a b Bukhari, Chap. Ghazwah Khaybar, Muslim, Naza’i. 3. The encounter between ‘Ali and marhab has been reported by different persons – some say they fought for the fort of Na’im while other relate it connection with the fort of Qamus. Bukhari has given different portions of the story but has not mentioned the name of the fort. Ibn Hisham relates that Marhab killed by Muhammad B. Maslama but report in the Sahih Muslim mentions ‘Ali while some verse by ‘Ali leave no doubt that he fought and killed Marhab. (Muslim, Kitab-ul-Jihad, tradition No. 1807).
^ al-Tabari (1997). The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam. Albany : State University Of New York. p. 120.
^ al-Tabari (1997). The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam. Albany : State University Of New York. p. 121.
^ a b Watt 1956), pg. 218
^ a b Haykal (2008), p. 400
^ Ibn Ishaq, Guillaume, p. 515.
^ Muhammad ibn Umar al-Waqidi. Kitab al-Maghazi. Translated by Faizer, R., Ismail, A., & Tayob, A. (2011). The Life of Muhammad, pp. 330-331. Oxford & New York: Routledge.
^ Nomani (1979), vol. II.
^ Waqidi/Faizer pp. 317, 323-324, 344.
^ Ibn Ishaq/Guillaume, pp. 515-516.
^ Ibn Saad/Haq, pp. 133, 143-144, 251-252.
^ Companions of Muhammad Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 57 :: Hadith 51
^ Jafri_
^ The Conquest of Khaibar, Witness-Pioneer.com Archived 2011-08-16 at WebCite
^ a b The Sealed Nectar, by Saifur Rahman al Mubarakpuri, pg 433
^ Sharan, Shlomo; Bûqay, Dāwid (2010). Crossovers: Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism. New Brunswick, New Jersey: Transaction Publishers. p. 6. ISBN 9781412844888.
^ a b c Rubenstein, Richard L. (2010). Jihad and Genocide. Lanham, Maryland: Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, Inc. p. 180. ISBN 9780742562035.
^ Emerson, Steven (2002). American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us. New York: The Free Press, Simon & Schuster, Inc. pp. 187–8. ISBN 0-7434-7750-2.
^ "Flotilla participants chanted Islamic battle cry invoking killing of Jews". Palestinian Media Watch. May 29, 2010.
^ a b Alagha, Joseph Elie (2006). The Shifts in Hizbullah's Ideology: Religious Ideology, Political Ideology, and Political Program. Amsterdam: Amsterdam University Press. p. 130. ISBN 9789053569108.
^ Hizbullah: We fired Khaibar-1 rockets at Hadera, Ynetnews, August 8, 2006
^
Yehoshua, Y. (July 10, 2013). "The Image Of The Jew In The Ramadan TV Show 'Khaybar' – Treacherous, Hateful Of The Other, Scheming, And Corrupt". MEMRI.
"Update: Dish Network Removed Dubai TV In May – Before Dubai TV, Other Arab Channels Began Airing Antisemitic Ramadan Drama Series 'Khaybar'". MEMRI. July 19, 2013.
^ Pontz, Zach (July 9, 2010). "Simon Wiesenthal Center Slams 'Khaybar' Miniseries After Video of Actors Spewing Hate Surfaces". Algemeiner.com.
^ Pontz, Zach (July 12, 2013). "ADL Blasts 'Vehemently Anti-Semitic' TV Show 'Khaybar' Currently Airing in Middle East". Algemeiner.com.
^ Ben Solomon, Ariel (July 11, 2013). "Ramadan series 'Khaybar' is a battle cry against Jews". Jerusalem Post.
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RealLordZeus:

It is now obvious you are not mature enough to engage in a discussion
1. You purposely choose to ignore my last question if to consider the Bible a sham because it is written about 2000 years ago
2. You quote an Hadith out of context but you termed a full report as false because it is written by historians
3. Your source of alleged masturbations instructions, you failed to provide
4. Your evidence for the six days wars was historical archived materials which I agree with but you don't want to accept another historical archived materials because it contradict your purpose.


Like I said earlier, I don't have control over your heart but stop making a fool of yourself in public, no matter how clear the truth is, you won't be able to understand.
You are no more longer worthy of my time as it's very clear you are incapable of sensible opinions! Your view and experience of life is very limited.

In conclusion, I will leave you with the whole references about the Wikipedia article on the Khaybar battle. If you can like, you can discredit all those authors, call them dimwits, they include Muslims, Christian and Atheists.
Last word of advice, Try to live a Christ-like life and see how your life will be.


You were right about the error in date, that was a slip, my mind was on the bible dating. Thanks for the correction


Regards


References as promised, I apologize to other readers for bringing such unnecessary texts here but I will like him to discredit all this authors, calling them dim wits as usual

References Edit

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^ Islamic Historical Novel: Perang Khaibar (Khaybar War) by Abdul Latip Talib, 2011 (Malaysia)
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^ al-Halabi, Sirat-i-Halbiyyah (Vol. II, part 12), p. 19.
^ Lings, Muhammad: his life based on the earliest sources, p. 215-6.
^ Peterson, Muhammad: the prophet of God, p. 127.
^ a b Nomani (1979), vol. II, pg. 156
^ Urwa, Fath al-Bari, Vol. VII, pg. 363
^ Stillman 17
^ Zurqani, Ala al-Mawahib, Vol. II, p.196, Egypt
^ Ibn Ishaq, A. Guillaume, p. 665-666
^ Watt 189
^ Lings (1987), p. 249
^ Nomani (1979), vol. II, pg. 159
^ a b c Stillman 18
^ Watt (1956), pg. 93
^ al-Tabari (1997). The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam. Albany : State University Of New York. p. 116.
^ a b c P. Bearman; Th. Bianquis; C.E. Bosworth; E. van Donzel; W.P. Heinrichs (eds.). "Khaybar". Encyclopaedia of Islam, Second Edition. Brill Online. Retrieved April 18, 2012.
^ Watt 1956, pg. 341
^ Nomani (1979), vol. II, pg. 162
^ Haykal, Muhammad Husayn. Ch. "The Campaign of Khaybar and Missions to Kings". The Life of Muhammad. Shorouk International, 1983.
^ Lings (1983), pg. 263
^ a b al-Tabari (1997). The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam. Albany : State University Of New York. p. 117.
^ Spencer, Robert (14 August 2006). "Khaybar, Khaybar, O Jews". Human Events. 62 (27): 12.[permanent dead link]
^ Watt (1956), pg. 219
^ a b Watt (1956), pg. 218
^ "Sahih Bukhari". Archived from the original on 16 May 2013. Retrieved 24 May 2013.
^ al-Tabari (1997). The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam. Albany : State University Of New York. pp. 119–121.
^ Gibbon, D&F of Roman Empire Vol V. page 365
^ a b c Ibn Hisham. Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya (The Life of Muhammad). English translation in Guillame (1955), pp. 145–146
^ "The Conquest of Khyber". al-islam.org. 2013-11-10. Retrieved 18 July 2015.
^ "The Battle of Khaybar". a2youth.com. Retrieved 19 July 2015.
^ a b c d Sahih Muslim, 19:4450
^ a b Harun, Abdus Salam. M. English Translation of Sirat Ibn Hisham. Al-Falah Foundation.
^ a b Bukhari, Chap. Ghazwah Khaybar, Muslim, Naza’i. 3. The encounter between ‘Ali and marhab has been reported by different persons – some say they fought for the fort of Na’im while other relate it connection with the fort of Qamus. Bukhari has given different portions of the story but has not mentioned the name of the fort. Ibn Hisham relates that Marhab killed by Muhammad B. Maslama but report in the Sahih Muslim mentions ‘Ali while some verse by ‘Ali leave no doubt that he fought and killed Marhab. (Muslim, Kitab-ul-Jihad, tradition No. 1807).
^ al-Tabari (1997). The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam. Albany : State University Of New York. p. 120.
^ al-Tabari (1997). The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam. Albany : State University Of New York. p. 121.
^ a b Watt 1956), pg. 218
^ a b Haykal (2008), p. 400
^ Ibn Ishaq, Guillaume, p. 515.
^ Muhammad ibn Umar al-Waqidi. Kitab al-Maghazi. Translated by Faizer, R., Ismail, A., & Tayob, A. (2011). The Life of Muhammad, pp. 330-331. Oxford & New York: Routledge.
^ Nomani (1979), vol. II.
^ Waqidi/Faizer pp. 317, 323-324, 344.
^ Ibn Ishaq/Guillaume, pp. 515-516.
^ Ibn Saad/Haq, pp. 133, 143-144, 251-252.
^ Companions of Muhammad Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 57 :: Hadith 51
^ Jafri_
^ The Conquest of Khaibar, Witness-Pioneer.com Archived 2011-08-16 at WebCite
^ a b The Sealed Nectar, by Saifur Rahman al Mubarakpuri, pg 433
^ Sharan, Shlomo; Bûqay, Dāwid (2010). Crossovers: Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism. New Brunswick, New Jersey: Transaction Publishers. p. 6. ISBN 9781412844888.
^ a b c Rubenstein, Richard L. (2010). Jihad and Genocide. Lanham, Maryland: Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, Inc. p. 180. ISBN 9780742562035.
^ Emerson, Steven (2002). American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us. New York: The Free Press, Simon & Schuster, Inc. pp. 187–8. ISBN 0-7434-7750-2.
^ "Flotilla participants chanted Islamic battle cry invoking killing of Jews". Palestinian Media Watch. May 29, 2010.
^ a b Alagha, Joseph Elie (2006). The Shifts in Hizbullah's Ideology: Religious Ideology, Political Ideology, and Political Program. Amsterdam: Amsterdam University Press. p. 130. ISBN 9789053569108.
^ Hizbullah: We fired Khaibar-1 rockets at Hadera, Ynetnews, August 8, 2006
^
Yehoshua, Y. (July 10, 2013). "The Image Of The Jew In The Ramadan TV Show 'Khaybar' – Treacherous, Hateful Of The Other, Scheming, And Corrupt". MEMRI.
"Update: Dish Network Removed Dubai TV In May – Before Dubai TV, Other Arab Channels Began Airing Antisemitic Ramadan Drama Series 'Khaybar'". MEMRI. July 19, 2013.
^ Pontz, Zach (July 9, 2010). "Simon Wiesenthal Center Slams 'Khaybar' Miniseries After Video of Actors Spewing Hate Surfaces". Algemeiner.com.
^ Pontz, Zach (July 12, 2013). "ADL Blasts 'Vehemently Anti-Semitic' TV Show 'Khaybar' Currently Airing in Middle East". Algemeiner.com.
^ Ben Solomon, Ariel (July 11, 2013). "Ramadan series 'Khaybar' is a battle cry against Jews". Jerusalem Post.
Bibliography Edit

Guillaume, Alfred. The Life of Muhammad: A Translation of Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah. Oxford University Press, 1955. ISBN 0-19-636033-1
Jafri, S.H.M. The Origins and Early Development of Shi'a Islam. Longman;1979 ISBN 0-582-78080-2
Lewis, Bernard. The Jews of Islam. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1984. ISBN 0-691-00807-8
Lings, Martin (1983). Muhammad: his life based on the earliest sources. Inner traditions international.
Nomani, Shibli (1970). Sirat al-Nabi. Karachi: Pakistan Historical Society.
Muhammad Husayn Haykal (2008). The Life of Muhammad. Selangor: Islamic Book Trust. ISBN 978-983-9154-17-7.
"The Conquest of Kyber." Restatement of History of Islam. N.p., n.d. Web. 17 Apr 2012.
Stillman, Norman. The Jews of Arab Lands: A History and Source Book. Philadelphia: Jewish Publication Society of America, 1979. ISBN 0-8276-0198-0
Ramadan, Tariq (2007). In the Footsteps of the Prophet. New York: Oxford University Press.
Spencer, Robert. "'Khaybar, Khaybar, O Jews.'." Human Events 62.27 (2006): 12. Academic Search Premier. Web. 24 Apr. 2012.
Ṭabarī. The History Of Al-Ṭabarī: Taʾrīkh Al-rusul Wa'l Mulūk. Albany : State University Of New York, 1985-2007. Print.
Montgomery Watt, W. (1956). Muhammad at Medina. Oxford University Press.
Montgomery Watt, W. (1964). Muhammad: Prophet and Statesman. Oxford University Pres