9jaRealist:


These market are effectively organized as 'cooperatives'...

They have a market association which deals with the govt...
This market association is also supposed to be contracting with the PSPs).

The association levies each trader for PSP (and other charges)...
The relationship with the market is thus handled as ONE entity, not 100s of individuals.
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bossvinqualad25:
They should invite prolific giant cleaning services to come do the cleaning for them we are up to the task, check my signature

naptu2:


Are they a PSP?

bossvinqualad25:
we are a cleaning company that is poised on making our environment a better place

bigtt76:
Concession the markets to the private sector to manage and see how it would be mordernized and run successfully. All these shutting down each time will not help anyone.

naptu2:


Unfortunately, they did that with Tejuosho, Sura, etc. and were condemned for it (it's too expensive, it's a means to steal money, etc https://www.nairaland.com/412929/fashola-accused-tejuosho-market-scam-a#5688235 ), so what they did was to let the market associations run the markets (I guess they are also part of the private sector).

bigtt76:
Hmmmm! Yea the market associations are private but they tend to be skewed politically (well even the concessions will be skewed too) and also they might not have the required expertise to manage the sanity of the market. We too like wahala shaaa .....I don taya sef.

Please does anyone know if they've resolved and will operate tomorrow?

naptu2:


The system in Lagos at the moment is that there is a public-private partnership scheme in place.

Private sector participants (PSP) register with the government and the government assigns a district or districts to them. The PSP operators are in charge of waste disposal in their assigned districts. The PSP operators give residents/businesses a bill, the residents/businesses pay at the bank and the government and PSP operators share the proceeds.

Businesses (including markets) can select the PSP operator of their choice.

One of the reasons given for shutting the market is that they have not selected a PSP operator of their choice and they have not paid their LAWMA bill.

So, you probably have to register as a PSP in order to be able to help them.

This is a link to a list of registered PSPs.

https://www.lawma.gov.ng/psp-directory/

naptu2:


The leaders of the associations are usually elected by the traders, but I remember that there was a thread (years ago) about some traders that were protesting that the government wanted to impose new leaders on them, instead of the leaders that they elected.

I don't know if it has been resolved. This (that the market has been shut) is the most recent information that I have on the issue.

0monnak0da:

So the closure is justified? or what is your point?

I really do not get the meaning of this?
Who OWNS the market?
Markets serve the public and the public suffer when they are shut down
If the market do not or cannot organize themselves then government should clean it and levy them

There is no justification in punishing the local residents many of whom may not have affordable alternatives

If the place is not suitable for a market it should move but it is a public space and the ulttimate responsibility is with the government
I really do not know why we insist on complicating simple things

By the way I do not know what you mean by cooperative or the the relevance of all the stuff you have written
The local government should clean the market and charge them. for it

9jaRealist:


This is akin to saying that if a non-doctor sets up a clinic, government shouldn’t shut it down because it’s “punishing” local residents...
The rule is that each market association retain PSPs to clean the market, if these folks refuse to follow the rules they DESERVE punishment.

Public health is NOT a joke, and affects the GREATER SOCIETY one way or another...
Sadly, so many Nigerians are used to patronizing FILTHY markets (food placed on floors, meat covered in flies, etc) and think it ‘normal’! SMH
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0monnak0da:
Your logic is bizarre
Firstly there is no law that says only doctors can set up "clinics".
Anyone can set up a clinic if they comply with the law
If the clinic is set up legally then it should not be shut down
Clinics are PRIVATE businesses. Oyingbo market is a public market
Your analogy is crazy

Who owns the market
Was it set up illegally

Are you from Lagos?
If you do not know find out who owns the market before you start talking rubbish.

0monnak0da:
Your logic is bizarre
Firstly there is no law that says only doctors can set up "clinics".
Anyone can set up a clinic if they comply with the law
If the clinic is set up legally then it should not be shut down
Clinics are PRIVATE businesses. Oyingbo market is a public market
Your analogy is crazy

Who owns the market
Was it set up illegally

Are you from Lagos?
If you do not know find out who owns the market before you start talking rubbish.

9jaRealist:


If it is a PUBLIC facility....
Why the b*tching when government decides to close its own facilities?

Anyway, a market is NOT just a space...
But the operations itself, and those are PRIVATE enterprises.

The PRIVATE use of PUBLIC facilities comes with rules/regulations...
If the "tenants" cannot obey such rules, they DESERVE to be punished accordingly. SMH
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9jaRealist:


The market was not set up "illegally" (a word I NEVER used)...
But the regulations is that market association retain PSPs for waste management.

Accordingly, if this market failed to do so, they DESERVE the punishment...
It's no different from a properly set-up clinic being shut down for disobeying the rules governing its operation.

DAMN! Some Nigerians are laws are like water and oil! SMH
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0monnak0da:

The issue is about those affected .
"government" is not an abstraction it is there for the people so government does not own stuff for spirits but for the people

Guy no vex o but please stop quoting me

You are not very bright and you really are a waste of my time

9jaRealist:


I ignore personal insults and attacks...
It merely betrays a lack of substance and a CRUDE upbringing.

Government does (or should) not exist for a small group, but for the generality of the population...
If the actions of a small group is putting the general population at risk, the government is RIGHT to act!
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0monnak0da:
Goodluck and bye bye

bigtt76:
Sad o! I just got back from the market now. There are lockup stalls there and a basement either for car par or something available to the traders to trade but we Africans, we like trading in the open. No sooner had the Lagos State environmental agents left than they continue on the streets. I guess they were well settled

naptu2:


Which market, Oyingbo or another market?

LAGOS MAINLAND LOCAL GOVERNMENT NEWS
OYINGBO MARKET UPDATE

..... Local Government Boss addresses issues.

..... Promise to work with Market stakeholders to get market re-open.

The Executive Chairman of Lagos Mainland Local Government, Hon. Mrs Omolola R. Essien, on Tuesday 26th Nov 2019 discussed, sympathized and warned market men and women in Oyingbo area of the council to desist from street trading, selling and keep their environment clean or face sanctions.

Hon. Essien gave the warning on the back of the locked oyingbo market at a meeting with the market men and women, she emphasized on the state of the environment which is not yet in accordance with the rules of the Lagos State Waste Management Authority ( LAWMA)

The chairman, who addressed the stakeholders in Yoruba language, said she had visited the market at least three times and always met it dirty.

She said the local government will try its best to get the market opened for business very soon but the market men and women all have huge roles to play to enable the market remain open afterwards.

Hon. Omolola Essien said any offender caught will henceforth be punished, as she would not listen to pleas from anybody.

Council treasurer, Mr Karounwi Rufai further buttressed the LGA boss point . He said "the state of the environment has become a big issue to the government and It is better for us to curb it now before it gets out of hand.

Reported by:
Toheeb A Dada
Chief Press secretary
Lagos Mainland LGA