uniquelyspecial:

Oga, that's the nature of the job. It's a universal thing. No be Nigeria suppose stop am

wwwihy:
Some ASUU members are thieves
Some are rogues
We want progress in this country, but don't want transparency and accountability
Why are you happy on collecting two or three salaries at a time?
Why are you bent on taking the space that are supposed to be occupied by others?

contigiency:


Buhari will implement all those people in the bolded statement before he finishes his tenure. It's stage by stage. For now, ASUU must join until they have their own university where they can enjoy all the autonomy in this world.

Afamed:

Because it will put an end to a lecturer receiving multiple salary from different fed govt Universities. Dr Ogumola Uche Musa is a lecturer in ABU he receives his monthly salary as a staff member of ABU, he goes to Unizik as a visiting lecturer earns another salary comes to UNAAB as a consultant, and earns another salary all at the detriment of his students waiting for him at ABU to receive lecture as he only comes to lecture 3/6 days before the exam

Afamed:

You are right the independent of University should be respected fully so ASUU should therefore stop taking salary from Federal government. They should also stop receiving research funding from government.
Or can you be claiming independent when you solely still rely on FG to build structure, pay staff salary and research funding all coming from FG?

Ibegtodiffer:

Other than Privately owned Universities, which University in the world doesn't get funding from her government? The funding from FG is remotely the reason Nationals pay less for education than foreigners. It's not a favour. @Afamed, you use to make sense before na! What happened to you?

Ibegtodiffer:


ASUU can not equate FG in terms of sponsorship of propaganda. But there's a limited understanding of ASUU position. Note that FG never gives a dime to ASUU! Of all the monies given to University Council or Management, all ASUU gets is salary. Prof. Hafiz works as a neurologist (less than 100 in the entire country) in a renown Teaching hospital, he teaches Medical students (Clinicals) in a University as well. Pls, which of these salaries is he criminally earning?

Ibegtodiffer:

No lecturer gets full salary from more than one University at a time. Moreover, FG can put an end to Lecturers Visiting other Universities. They can simply direct NUC not to consider visiting lecturers during accreditation. All it will take is for FG to recruit new qualified hands. But FG will never do that. You know why? It is actually cheaper for FG to pay for visiting than recruiting new lecturers.

Afamed:

Keep quiet. You can't be claiming of being independent and still want finance from FG. Abi ASUU own version of independency is only when they don't register under IPPIS?

Ibegtodiffer:


Bro, you didn't answer my question o! But the reason is simple. You don't have the answer. Think about this; IPPIS is designed for civil servants. Civil servants legally retire at the age of 60. Universities and Research institutions staff retire at 65 & 70 (if you've been a Professor for 15 years). What do you think will happen to University staff that are above 60 years, upon enrollment in to IPPIS?

Ibegtodiffer:


ASUU can not equate FG in terms of sponsorship of propaganda. But there's a limited understanding of ASUU position. Note that FG never gives a dime to ASUU! Of all the monies given to University Council or Management, all ASUU gets is salary. Prof. Hafiz works as a neurologist (less than 100 in the entire country) in a renown Teaching hospital, he teaches Medical students (Clinicals) in a University as well. Pls, which of these salaries is he criminally earning?

ornicus:


It says a lot about the so called teachers of ASUU that they cannot communicate their so called position coherently.

Same way most of them could not transfer knowledge to save their lives

Only time they can communicate in clear terms is when they are telling small girls they want to kiss them violently.

No one will support ASUU on this. You are not special employees. You are government employees who do not want transparency and audit trail. You cannot tell us that Nigerian universities are more complicated than world class enterprises, which use oracle (that is what ippis) actually is.

Ibegtodiffer:


To some extent, I agree with you. But take note that Nigeria is a country, governed by laws. If you were an academic, is it correct to accept a position that directly contravenes the law establishing a University? Don't you think it's wrong to do the right thing, the wrong way? By the way, the issue on ground is not refusal of IPPIS! It's just that IPPIS does not capture some peculiar conditions. The contention is that IPPIS needs to accommodate those peculiarities.
On the issue of morality:
it's true that there are lecturers that have morality issues. But it must be noted that their attitude of chasing "small girls" is not because they are lecturers. It's because they are like that. So even if they weren't lecturers, they will still be who they are. I had very good teachers back in those days. And I believe you did as well. It will be unfair to make generalisation.

RisenPhoenix:


How does IPPIS disrespect the privacy of universities sir? Please explain. Remember that all those universities required to register their lecturers for IPPIS are Federal run and funded. There can be no procedural independence when there is no financial independence.



Irrelevant sir. The FG pays the money, and they choose the means. Lecturers can resign if they don't like the mode of payment.



Also irrelevant. If politicians steal and cheat, this does not give the lecturers the right to cheat and steal. This whataboutism argument is all too common in Nigerian issues. As in "what about XYZ? If he can steal why shouldn't I?" The premise is wrong, the justification is wrong, the argument is irrelevant.

Just state a single viable reason as to why IPPIS is detrimental to education and we will agree with you.

Afamed:

Keep quiet. You can't be claiming of being independent and still want finance from FG. Abi ASUU own version of independency is only when they don't register under IPPIS?

maasoap:


It would be good if politicians are on IPPIS too but lecturers and politicians didn't get jobs on the same platforms. Political office holders and career officials are not the same anywhere in the world. You can only liken the lecturers to career officials in other MDAs.

revelation2013:


So you are supporting corruption? Tomorrow now you will say the country is so corrupt... This is a president trying to reduce multiple salaries and unemployment. Only one lecturer is collecting salaries in 5 universities. Is that not corruption. And there are unemployed masters and PhD holders who are being denied employment due to these crooks who already filled everywhere.

Amucha:

Please refer to the Tertiary institution Act

Amucha:


No corruption, they have proffered alternative platform similar to IPPIS that will address their peculiarities like retirement age, specialties, guest lecturing etc . FG should be open to theirs also. Moreover, please refer the Tertiary institution Act to know about university autonomy.

Amucha:


Nobody pays anybody in Nigeria. The money does not belong to the executives. The money belongs to Nigerians. So the executive shouldn't determine how they will be paid and how others should be. The tertiary institution act has since stipulated autonomy of the universities financially and other wise. The universities have peculiarities, the executives should not mortgage them.

RisenPhoenix:


Nobody is this naive. Government officials have been elected to their posts in part to make financial policy and give account to the electorate. If they are not permitted to formulate internal control policies to prevent fraudulent behaviour, then they are not doing their job correctly. IPPIS has no bearing on the academic autonomy of the tertiary institutions. Until you can prove otherwise, my belief is that the only peculiarities undermined by the introduction of IPPIS are the ones that perpetuate corruption.

maasoap:



I don't know the kind of autonomy which says that your employers can't streamline your salaries to curb corruption.
Every educated Nigerian knew exactly what our lecturers are running away from, don't deceive yourself.

ornicus:


Almost every large company in this country and most in the world. Nestle, total, Oando, shell , etc are running on either oracle or sap.

There is no peculiarity in a university environment that has not been met in much larger, and far more Complex environments where oracle was deployed.

It is the worst kind of mental laziness for lecturers to talk like this. Is this how they teach students in school? We cannot adopt this system because it will not work with some peculiar situations.

Amucha:



ASUU has proffered a similar platform to address her peculiarities, let FG be open to ASUU's also. FG must not use force all the time. This is democracy. Also refer the Tertiary institution Act

Amucha:


Countries, Nigeria inclusive are govern by Laws. Mere policies do not overshadow Laws. Nigerian Law has given Tertiary institution autonomy. Just like what happened in Kogi when the executive wanted to force the Judiciary into same platform as IPPIS. The Judiciary and her workers rejected it blatantly.

Amucha:



ASUU has proffered a similar platform to address her peculiarities, let FG be open to ASUU's also. FG must not use force all the time. This is democracy. Also refer the Tertiary institution Act

Amucha:


What is the work of the FG? Where did they get resources from? Who owns the resources? The resources belong to the people and not to politicians in government. Politicians in government should thread with caution. Moreover, read the Tertiary institution Act please

Afamed:

Stop making your ignorance fashionable

ornicus:



What platform please? Do let us know. I have heard the story of how assu, who I do not believe have developed or contributed to the development of any software platform are suddenly claiming they will develop their own indigenous personnel erp from scratch. So tell us about this.

RisenPhoenix:

Again. How does IPPIS undermine the universities' autonomy? Or are you trying to make us believe that ASUU's objection only lies in their strong desire to uphold Nigerian laws? Please don't let us be absurd here.