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Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 4:50pm On Dec 06, 2019
Masturbation is sin whether some people you call *pastor* say *it is not sin or not*
Sexual thoughts/desire/urge is not sin whether married or single because we are not in-charge of what enters into our minds
however dwelling in sexual thoughts and wanting to satisfy it *by yourself* is sin whether married or single.
dwelling in sexual thoughts about your sexual intimacy with your wedded spouse or even desiring to engage in more sexual intimacy with your wedded spouse is not sin because you are married and it is permissible for married couple to engage in sexual intimacy hence it is a holy thought for married couple when they are desiring their own wedded spouse not another person, image, toys, fingers e.t.c. and this thought does not require personal squeezing of your sexual organs or fingering/romancing your body to satisfy your sexual appetite.
Having sex with yourself either by yourself or with sexual images, videos or toys is masturbation and it is sin whether you are married or single.
Sexual intimacy starts from the mind, images in your mind or physical eyes-focus to cuddling, kissing, romance and penetration between the sexual organs (vagina and pennis) of wedded husband and wife not mouth/anus/finger-penetration, toys, finger, condoms, contraceptives, withdrawal-methods, abortion-pills e.t.c. thus sexual intimacy for wedded couple must be open to procreation "And Adam *knew* Eve his wife and she conceived and bare Cain and said I have gotten a man from the Lord" (Genesis 4:1).
Knowledge here defines *sexual intimacy* which brought forth *conception*.
If couples are not ready for *conception* they are to abstain from sexual intimacy *within the peak/fertile days of the woman* which is 12 days out of the 28-days women cycle time-frame rather than introduce ideas, styles, medications, instruments that endanger the sanctity of marital purity. Self-control as one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is manifests more in marriage than when you are still single.
Sexual intimacy is defined between 2-persons (a wedded husband and wife) who are in the same geographical location thus "the man and his wife were naked and they were not ashamed" (Genesis 2:25) not with nude pictures, texts and videos.

Sexual intimacy for those who are wedded in the Christian method *must* be
*marital(between 1-man and 1-woman joined by a Priest/Pastor on the behalf of Jesus Christ Crucified; Genesis 2:25)*,
*procreative(open to pregnancy without any form or method of contraceptive/abortion; Genesis 4:1)*,
and
*unitive(acceptable/agreeable/uniting to the man and woman's soul, spirit and body in "union with the purity of God"; Hebrews 13:4)*
Great Grace Brethren!!!
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by falcon01: 5:20pm On Dec 06, 2019
you see o e often bullsh*t of Religion, Masturbation is an Autonomous process once you hit puberty you gotta release that urge in you by sex or masturbation. and if you force yourself not to, your body must find a way to Do it bu wet dream it's in you its something you must do if you are healthy.

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Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ScepticalPyrrho: 5:47pm On Dec 06, 2019
A "god" who allows million of children to die of starvation and diseases cares about where I put my diçk?

Use your head OP.

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Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 8:06pm On Dec 06, 2019
falcon01:
you see o e often bullsh*t of Religion, Masturbation is an Autonomous process once you hit puberty you gotta release that urge in you by sex or masturbation. and if you force yourself not to, your body must find a way to Do it bu wet dream it's in you its something you must do if you are healthy.
It is not true.
For the past 22-years(March 1997 till date), I have never had sexual intercourse with any human being or spirit but as a kid I lived in the sinfulness of fornication and pornography between 7-11 years however I have never masturbated from childhood/birth till date.
This is the power of God's grace through Jesus Christ Crucified *to destroy sin and give us his life of consistent holiness in exchange* who delivered me completely since March 1997 through my reception of His body, blood, soul and Divinity in the Eucharist in the Catholic Church even as the Holy Spirit uses other non Catholic Gospel teachers to help me grow in grace and in the knowledge of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Great Grace Brethren!!!

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Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 8:09pm On Dec 06, 2019
ScepticalPyrrho:
A "god" who allows million of children to die of starvation and diseases cares about where I put my diçk?

Use your head OP.

1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by TVSA: 8:30pm On Dec 06, 2019
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ochibuogwu5:
Masturbation is sin whether some people you call *pastor* say *it is not sin or not*
Sexual thoughts/desire/urge is not sin whether married or single because we are not in-charge of what enters into our minds
however dwelling in sexual thoughts and wanting to satisfy it *by yourself* is sin whether married or single.
dwelling in sexual thoughts about your sexual intimacy with your wedded spouse or even desiring to engage in more sexual intimacy with your wedded spouse is not sin because you are married and it is permissible for married couple to engage in sexual intimacy hence it is a holy thought for married couple when they are desiring their own wedded spouse not another person, image, toys, fingers e.t.c. and this thought does not require personal squeezing of your sexual organs or fingering/romancing your body to satisfy your sexual appetite.
Having sex with yourself either by yourself or with sexual images, videos or toys is masturbation and it is sin whether you are married or single.
Sexual intimacy starts from the mind, images in your mind or physical eyes-focus to cuddling, kissing, romance and penetration between the sexual organs (vagina and pennis) of wedded husband and wife not mouth/anus/finger-penetration, toys, finger, condoms, contraceptives, withdrawal-methods, abortion-pills e.t.c. thus sexual intimacy for wedded couple must be open to procreation "And Adam *knew* Eve his wife and she conceived and bare Cain and said I have gotten a man from the Lord" (Genesis 4:1).
Knowledge here defines *sexual intimacy* which brought forth *conception*.
If couples are not ready for *conception* they are to abstain from sexual intimacy *within the peak/fertile days of the woman* which is 12 days out of the 28-days women cycle time-frame rather than introduce ideas, styles, medications, instruments that endanger the sanctity of marital purity. Self-control as one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is manifests more in marriage than when you are still single.
Sexual intimacy is defined between 2-persons (a wedded husband and wife) who are in the same geographical location thus "the man and his wife were naked and they were not ashamed" (Genesis 2:25) not with nude pictures, texts and videos.

Sexual intimacy for those who are wedded in the Christian method *must* be
*marital(between 1-man and 1-woman joined by a Priest/Pastor on the behalf of Jesus Christ Crucified; Genesis 2:25)*,
*procreative(open to pregnancy without any form or method of contraceptive/abortion; Genesis 4:1)*,
and
*unitive(acceptable/agreeable/uniting to the man and woman's soul, spirit and body in "union with the purity of God"; Hebrews 13:4)*
Great Grace Brethren!!!
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Re: Masturbation Is Sin by peteradoga3(m): 9:00pm On Dec 06, 2019
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ochibuogwu5:

1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
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Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 5:50pm On Dec 07, 2019
His Death and Resurrection: The Cross is carried by *those who have been condemned to die* under the *roman rule and empire*
Taking up one's cross as a Christian does not relate to the temptations, labours, trials, difficulties of our individual lives
rather
*accepting that you have died with Jesus Christ* inside his body on the tree of Calvary and have *received the new life of Christ Jesus Crucified* as a replacement of *our old-dead-self/flesh inside Christ on the Cross*
As long as we are Christians, there is only one Cross.
That Cross is the Cross upon which Christ Jesus died, paid the full prize of sin *once and forever* to the Father and gave out *a new life/flesh* which is his own to *anybody who will believe that what He did on Calvary is for him/her*
This new life was breathed-out on the tree of Calvary when He *expired*. It is this new life that tore the temple curtain from top to bottom, opened the tombs of the righteous who died before Jesus Crucifixion after his resurrection, went down to the unrighteous who died before His Crucifixion and were held down in the prison of Hades then proclaimed the gospel to them thereby setting the captives of the tyrant free, opened the grave on resurrection morning, revealed his resurrected being for forty days towards His disciples, ascended to the Father and pleaded for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon the Church and continues to abide/manifest within the Church till date in each Christian even group of believers as He will continue till His second glorious coming.

Anybody who has not accepted what Jesus Christ Crucified did on the Cross of Calvary for *every human being both born and unborn* as the only means of salvation and is not *willing to receive the LIFE; He gave-out when He died on the Cross* is not a Christian and is not *carrying his/her Cross* no matter the amount of trials, difficulties, challenges, persecutions, sicknesses, diseases e.t.c he/she is facing currently.

Trials, tribulations, temptations and sicknesses can still affect any human being whether you are a Christian or not thus John 16:33 "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. *In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.*"
As a Christian when these issues come your way *submit to the NEW LIFE dwelling inside you now, He has overcome them before and He will continue to overcome them at his own time and method but those *issues are not cross or crosses* rather *they are temptations and tribulations*

There is only one-cross for Christians; the Cross of Jesus Christ which *defines our death inside the Crucified body of Jesus Christ and the replacement of our old-dead-self/flesh by His New Life* thus Colossians 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3:3 *For ye are dead*, and *your life is hid with Christ in God". 3:4 When *Christ, who is our life*, shall appear, then shall *ye also appear with him in glory*.

This is why any human being who claims to be a Christian cannot be producing any fruit that is *contrary to the lifestyle of Christ Jesus Crucified while he was inside his own mortal-body on earth* whether you are a baby Christian, growing Christian or adult Christian. Your babyhood *must* reflect the babyhood of Jesus Christ,
Growing Christian *must* reflect the growing phase of Christ and our adult Christian *must* reflect the adult phase of Christ Jesus Crucified.

Any gathering of human beings were the Cross, its meaning and effects as well as the encouragement to carry the Cross of Jesus Christ is not given *a major time-frame* is not a Christian gathering/fellowship/study/prayer/activity.

It is the death of Jesus Christ on the Cross of Calvary for human beings to *atone for our sins*, destroy the old-body of sin, erase all the written ordinances standing contrary against us, defeat the demons and devil *permanently* as well as *replace our old-dead-flesh with his own new flesh* that makes *Jesus* different and unique from *all the prophets of old*, other religion and every other religious leader in this age and in the age to come. This is why Paul said I share the gospel in the language of the Holy Spirit so that I do not *reduce the efficacy/power of the Cross* 1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, *lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.*
And
That all he wants to share with any group of human beings as long as the gospel is concerned is not just any type of Jesus (Miracle Jesus, Healing Jesus, Deliverance Jesus, Packaged Jesus e.t.c) but *Christ and Him Crucified*
1 Corinthians 2:2 For *I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified*.
It is the preaching of the gospel of Jesus Christ Crucified on the Cross of Calvary that brings about Salvation, Miracles, Deliverance, Healing, Prosperity, Holiness-as-a-consistent-lifestyle, Genuine-believers, Sound-teachers, Committed-brethren, generous-family, practical-loving/selfless-persons as a community of Jesus Christ followers
Thus Mark 16:20 "And they *went forth*, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and "confirming the word with signs following*. Amen.

Acts 4:33 And with *great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.* 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

When those who claim to be Christians stopped preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ death on the Cross of Calvary and His resurrection as *an incorruptible seed* then shifted towards human doctrines, leadership-tussle/politics, quest for arbitrary power/stage-drama, fame/popularity, preference-to-structural-buildings-over-human-souls, motivational-psychology, spiritualized-lust-for-money/mammon e.t.c;
The fruit of *genuine christianity* became rare however we thank God for His *current revival through the sudden upsurge of the gospel of Jesus Christ death on the Cross and His resurrection* in this our generation.
Great Grace Brethren!!!
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 5:53pm On Dec 07, 2019
Isaiah 30:19-26 Living Bible (TLB)
19 O my people in Jerusalem, you shall weep no more, for he will surely be gracious to you at the sound of your cry. He will answer you. 20 *Though he give you the bread of adversity and water of affliction, yet he will be with you to teach you—with your own eyes you will see your Teacher(Jesus Christ Crucified)*. 21 And if you leave God’s paths and go astray, you will hear a voice behind you say, “No, this is the way; walk here.” 22 And you will destroy all your silver idols and gold images and cast them out like filthy things you hate to touch. “Ugh!” you’ll say to them. “Be gone!”

23 Then God will bless you with rain at planting time and with wonderful harvests and with ample pastures for your cows. 24 The oxen and young donkeys that till the ground will eat grain, its chaff blown away by the wind. 25 In that day when God steps in to destroy your enemies, he will give you streams of water flowing down each mountain and every hill. 26 The moon will be as bright as the sun, and the sunlight brighter than seven days! So it will be when the Lord begins to heal his people and to cure the wounds he gave them.
THANK YOU JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED; MY TEACHER!!!
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 6:00pm On Dec 07, 2019
Luke 7 Living Bible (TLB)
1 When Jesus had finished his sermon he went back into the city of Capernaum.

2 Just at that time the highly prized slave of a Roman[a] army captain was sick and near death. 3 When the captain heard about Jesus, he sent some respected Jewish elders to ask him to come and heal his slave. 4 So they began pleading earnestly with Jesus to come with them and help the man. They told him what a wonderful person the captain was.

“If anyone deserves your help, it is he,” they said, 5 “for he loves the Jews and even paid personally to build us a synagogue!”

6-8 Jesus went with them; but just before arriving at the house, the captain sent some friends to say, “Sir, don’t inconvenience yourself by coming to my home, for I am not worthy of any such honor or even to come and meet you. Just speak a word from where you are, and my servant boy will be healed! I know, because I am under the authority of my superior officers, and I have authority over my men. I only need to say ‘Go!’ and they go; or ‘Come!’ and they come; and to my slave, ‘Do this or that,’ and he does it. So just say, ‘Be healed!’ and my servant will be well again!”

9 Jesus was amazed. Turning to the crowd he said, “Never among all the Jews in Israel have I met a man with faith like this.”

10 And when the captain’s friends returned to his house, they found the slave completely healed.

11 Not long afterwards Jesus went with his disciples to the village of Nain, with the usual great crowd at his heels. 12 A funeral procession was coming out as he approached the village gate. The boy who had died was the only son of his widowed mother, and many mourners from the village were with her.

13 When the Lord saw her, his heart overflowed with sympathy. “Don’t cry!” he said. 14 Then he walked over to the coffin and touched it, and the bearers stopped. “Laddie,” he said, “come back to life again.”

15 Then the boy sat up and began to talk to those around him! And Jesus gave him back to his mother.

16 A great fear swept the crowd, and they exclaimed with praises to God, “A mighty prophet has risen among us,” and, “We have seen the hand of God at work today.”

17 The report of what he did that day raced from end to end of Judea and even out across the borders.

18 The disciples of John the Baptist soon heard of all that Jesus was doing. When they told John about it, 19 he sent two of his disciples to Jesus to ask him, “Are you really the Messiah?[b] Or shall we keep on looking for him?”

20-22 The two disciples found Jesus while he was curing many sick people of their various diseases—healing the lame and the blind and casting out evil spirits. When they asked him John’s question, this was his reply: “Go back to John and tell him all you have seen and heard here today: how those who were blind can see. The lame are walking without a limp. The lepers are completely healed. The deaf can hear again. The dead come back to life. And the poor are hearing the Good News. 23 And tell him, ‘Blessed is the one who does not lose his faith in me.’”[c]

24 After they left, Jesus talked to the crowd about John. “Who is this man you went out into the Judean wilderness to see?” he asked. “Did you find him weak as grass, moved by every breath of wind? 25 Did you find him dressed in expensive clothes? No! Men who live in luxury are found in palaces, not out in the wilderness. 26 But did you find a prophet? Yes! And more than a prophet. 27 He is the one to whom the Scriptures refer when they say, ‘Look! I am sending my messenger ahead of you, to prepare the way before you.’ 28 In all humanity there is no one greater than John. And yet the least citizen of the Kingdom of God is greater than he.”

29 And all who heard John preach—even the most wicked of them[d]—agreed that God’s requirements were right, and they were baptized by him. 30 All, that is, except the Pharisees and teachers of Moses’ law. They rejected God’s plan for them and refused John’s baptism.

31 “What can I say about such men?” Jesus asked. “With what shall I compare them? 32 They are like a group of children who complain to their friends, ‘You don’t like it if we play “wedding” and you don’t like it if we play “funeral”!’[e] 33 For John the Baptist used to go without food and never took a drop of liquor all his life, and you said, ‘He must be crazy!’[f] 34 But I eat my food and drink my wine, and you say, ‘What a glutton Jesus is! And he drinks! And has the lowest sort of friends!’[g] 35 But I am sure you can always justify your inconsistencies.”[h]

36 One of the Pharisees asked Jesus to come to his home for lunch and Jesus accepted the invitation. As they sat down to eat, 37 a woman of the streets—a prostitute—heard he was there and brought an exquisite flask filled with expensive perfume. 38 Going in, she knelt behind him at his feet, weeping, with her tears falling down upon his feet; and she wiped them off with her hair and kissed them and poured the perfume on them.

39 When Jesus’ host, a Pharisee, saw what was happening and who the woman was, he said to himself, “This proves that Jesus is no prophet, for if God had really sent him, he would know what kind of woman this one is!”

40 Then Jesus spoke up and answered his thoughts. “Simon,” he said to the Pharisee, “I have something to say to you.”

“All right, Teacher,” Simon replied, “go ahead.”

41 Then Jesus told him this story: “A man loaned money to two people—$5,000 to one and $500 to the other. 42 But neither of them could pay him back, so he kindly forgave them both, letting them keep the money! Which do you suppose loved him most after that?”

43 “I suppose the one who had owed him the most,” Simon answered.

“Correct,” Jesus agreed.

44 Then he turned to the woman and said to Simon, “Look! See this woman kneeling here! When I entered your home, you didn’t bother to offer me water to wash the dust from my feet, but she has washed them with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You refused me the customary kiss of greeting, but she has kissed my feet again and again from the time I first came in. 46 You neglected the usual courtesy of olive oil to anoint my head, but she has covered my feet with rare perfume. 47 Therefore her sins—and they are many—are forgiven, for she loved me much; but one who is forgiven little, shows little love.”

48 And he said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”

49 Then the men at the table said to themselves, “Who does this man think he is, going around forgiving sins?”

50 And Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 2:30pm On Dec 08, 2019
Matthew 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 2:31pm On Dec 08, 2019
Those who say they live in God should live their lives as Jesus did.
(1 John 2:6)
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 2:35pm On Dec 08, 2019
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 2:39pm On Dec 08, 2019
Luke 3:8 *Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance*, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 3:49pm On Dec 08, 2019
If any human being receives Jesus Christ Crucified as a *seed* then Christ Jesus manifests *his lifestyle as 'a fruit' consistently* in him/her
Nobody can produce a fruit when he/she has not *received a seed*.
There is nobody who receives *a tomato seed and produces a guava-fruit*
"We are born-again by the *incorruptible seed* of the living word of God..." (1 Peter 1:23)

"Jesus Christ Crucified is the *only way*, the *only truth* and the *only life*, no human being can come to the Father *except through HIM"
(John 14:6)
Great Grace Brethren!!!
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 8:16pm On Dec 08, 2019
And now [brethren], I commit you to God [I deposit you in His charge, entrusting you to His protection and care]. And I commend you to the Word of His grace [to the commands and counsels and promises of His unmerited favor]. It is able to build you up and to give you [your rightful] inheritance among all God’s set-apart ones (those consecrated, purified, and transformed of soul). Amen. (Acts 20:32 amp)
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by Lightangel65: 10:05pm On Dec 08, 2019
ochibuogwu5:
Masturbation is sin whether some people you call *pastor* say *it is not sin or not*
Sexual thoughts/desire/urge is not sin whether married or single because we are not in-charge of what enters into our minds
however dwelling in sexual thoughts and wanting to satisfy it *by yourself* is sin whether married or single.
dwelling in sexual thoughts about your sexual intimacy with your wedded spouse or even desiring to engage in more sexual intimacy with your wedded spouse is not sin because you are married and it is permissible for married couple to engage in sexual intimacy hence it is a holy thought for married couple when they are desiring their own wedded spouse not another person, image, toys, fingers e.t.c. and this thought does not require personal squeezing of your sexual organs or fingering/romancing your body to satisfy your sexual appetite.
Having sex with yourself either by yourself or with sexual images, videos or toys is masturbation and it is sin whether you are married or single.
Sexual intimacy starts from the mind, images in your mind or physical eyes-focus to cuddling, kissing, romance and penetration between the sexual organs (vagina and pennis) of wedded husband and wife not mouth/anus/finger-penetration, toys, finger, condoms, contraceptives, withdrawal-methods, abortion-pills e.t.c. thus sexual intimacy for wedded couple must be open to procreation "And Adam *knew* Eve his wife and she conceived and bare Cain and said I have gotten a man from the Lord" (Genesis 4:1).
Knowledge here defines *sexual intimacy* which brought forth *conception*.
If couples are not ready for *conception* they are to abstain from sexual intimacy *within the peak/fertile days of the woman* which is 12 days out of the 28-days women cycle time-frame rather than introduce ideas, styles, medications, instruments that endanger the sanctity of marital purity. Self-control as one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is manifests more in marriage than when you are still single.
Sexual intimacy is defined between 2-persons (a wedded husband and wife) who are in the same geographical location thus "the man and his wife were naked and they were not ashamed" (Genesis 2:25) not with nude pictures, texts and videos.

Sexual intimacy for those who are wedded in the Christian method *must* be
*marital(between 1-man and 1-woman joined by a Priest/Pastor on the behalf of Jesus Christ Crucified; Genesis 2:25)*,
*procreative(open to pregnancy without any form or method of contraceptive/abortion; Genesis 4:1)*,
and
*unitive(acceptable/agreeable/uniting to the man and woman's soul, spirit and body in "union with the purity of God"; Hebrews 13:4)*
Great Grace Brethren!!!
I can agree with pornography, and I don't see how these scriptures relate. They just do to fornication.
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 6:33am On Dec 09, 2019
MASTURBATION IS SIN: Masturbation is sin whether some people you call *pastor* say *it is not sin or not*
Sexual thoughts/desire/urge is not sin whether married or single because we are not in-charge of what enters into our minds
however dwelling in sexual thoughts and wanting to satisfy it *by yourself* is sin whether married or single.
dwelling in sexual thoughts about your sexual intimacy with your wedded spouse or even desiring to engage in more sexual intimacy with your wedded spouse is not sin because you are married and it is permissible for married couple to engage in sexual intimacy hence it is a holy thought for married couple when they are desiring their own wedded spouse not another person, image, toys, fingers e.t.c. and this thought does not require personal squeezing of your sexual organs or fingering/romancing your body to satisfy your sexual appetite.
Having sex with yourself either by yourself or with sexual images, videos or toys is masturbation and it is sin whether you are married or single.
Sexual intimacy starts from the mind, images in your mind or physical eyes-focus to cuddling, kissing, romance and penetration between the sexual organs (vagina and pennis) of wedded husband and wife not mouth/anus/finger-penetration, toys, finger, condoms, contraceptives, withdrawal-methods, abortion-pills e.t.c. thus sexual intimacy for wedded couple must be open to procreation "And Adam *knew* Eve his wife and she conceived and bare Cain and said I have gotten a man from the Lord" (Genesis 4:1).
Knowledge here defines *sexual intimacy* which brought forth *conception*.
If couples are not ready for *conception* they are to abstain from sexual intimacy *within the peak/fertile days of the woman* which is 12 days out of the 28-days women cycle time-frame rather than introduce ideas, styles, medications, instruments that endanger the sanctity of marital purity. Self-control as one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is manifests more in marriage than when you are still single.
Sexual intimacy is defined between 2-persons (a wedded husband and wife) who are in the same geographical location thus "the man and his wife were naked and they were not ashamed" (Genesis 2:25) not with nude pictures, texts and videos.

Sexual intimacy for those who are wedded in the Christian method *must* be
*marital(between 1-man and 1-woman joined by a Priest/Pastor on the behalf of Jesus Christ Crucified; Genesis 2:25)*,
*procreative(open to pregnancy without any form or method of contraceptive/abortion; Genesis 4:1)*,
and
*unitive(acceptable/agreeable/uniting to the man and woman's soul, spirit and body in "union with the purity of God"; Hebrews 13:4)*
Great Grace Brethren!!!
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 9:08am On Dec 09, 2019
THANK YOU JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED; MY CONSISTENT AND PERMANENT INTERCESSOR!!!

Jesus Christ life inside us now which has replaced our old-dead/crucified-life/flesh prays consistently and permanently within our hearts and with our mouths were necessary.

Hebrews 7:23-25 Living Bible (TLB)
23 Under the old arrangement there had to be many priests so that when the older ones died off, the system could still be carried on by others who took their places.

24 But Jesus lives forever and continues to be a Priest so that no one else is needed. 25 He is able to save completely all who come to God through him. Since he will live forever, he will always be there to remind God that he has paid for their sins with his blood.

Hebrews 7:23-25 King James Version (KJV)
23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 9:52am On Dec 09, 2019
Those born of the Spirit of Jesus Christ Crucified will continue to produce the fruits of Jesus *consciously or unconsciously*till eternity while those born of the flesh will continue to produce the fruits of the flesh *consciously or unconsciously* till they repent and believe in Jesus Christ Crucified or until their biological death (John 3:6)
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 3:38pm On Dec 09, 2019
Those seed that fell along the traveled road are the people who have heard the gospel; then the devil comes into their mind and carries away the message out of their hearts, that they may not believe (acknowledge Me as their Savior and devote themselves to Me) and be saved [here and hereafter]. (Luke 8:12)
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 3:44pm On Dec 09, 2019
“To what then shall I compare the men of this generation, and what are they like? They are like children who sit in the market place and call to one another, and they say, ‘We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not weep.’ For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon!’ The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ Yet wisdom is vindicated (shown to be true and divine) by all her children [by their life, character, and deeds]." (Luke 7:31-35)
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 3:46pm On Dec 09, 2019
And He said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.” (Luke 7:50)
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 3:59pm On Dec 09, 2019
And those upon the rock [are the people] who, when they hear [the Word], receive and welcome it with joy; but these have no root. *They believe for a while*, and in *time of trial and temptation fall away (withdraw and stand aloof)*. (Luke 8:13)
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 4:20pm On Dec 09, 2019
If you/I die now;
Are my going to heaven or hell-fire?
Are you going to heaven or hell-fire?
If the trumpet of the arch-angels blows now;
Are my going to heaven or hell-fire?
Are you going to heaven or hell-fire?

If you/I are(am) not sure of eternal life (Heaven) through faith in Christ Jesus Crucified, you/I are(am) sure of hell-fire!!!

Believe in Jesus Christ Crucified as Our individual God, Savior and Redeemer is *the only certainty into the kingdom of Heaven*

Repent *now and believe in Jesus Christ Crucified on the Cross of Calvary to save every human being from sin, the flesh, evil-world-systems, death, demons and satan as well as replace our crucified flesh with the new flesh of Jesus Christ which manifests holiness as a lifestyle consistently till eternity* so that you/me will not say "Had I known" after *biological death or the archangel trumpet sound*

There is *Grace to believe in Jesus Christ Crucified inside every human being whether born into Christian-family or any other religion*

The new life in Christ Jesus Crucified also enables any human being to live a complete sane/fulfilled life in this world within any righteous business, career, vocations or engagements; the Holy Spirit leads you through in this earthly existence.

Let us use the grace of God actively working inside us now we are still breathing to believe in Jesus Christ Crucified now before it is too late not minding the persecutions, temptations, enjoyments, pleasures, miracles, favours, promotions and distractions in our earthly surroundings because there will be no opportunity for any excuse at-all!!!

1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

Great Grace Brethren!!!
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 4:58pm On Dec 09, 2019
1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that *we might live through him*.
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 8:16am On Dec 10, 2019
Luke 10 Living Bible (TLB); DECEMBER 10TH
1 The Lord now chose seventy other disciples and sent them on ahead in pairs to all the towns and villages he planned to visit later.

2 These were his instructions to them: “Plead with the Lord of the harvest to send out more laborers to help you, for the harvest is so plentiful and the workers so few. 3 Go now, and remember that I am sending you out as lambs among wolves. 4 Don’t take any money with you, or a beggar’s bag, or even an extra pair of shoes. And don’t waste time along the way.[a]

5 “Whenever you enter a home, give it your blessing. 6 If it is worthy of the blessing, the blessing will stand; if not, the blessing will return to you.

7 “When you enter a village, don’t shift around from home to home, but stay in one place, eating and drinking without question whatever is set before you. And don’t hesitate to accept hospitality, for the workman is worthy of his wages!

8-9 “If a town welcomes you, follow these two rules:

(1) Eat whatever is set before you.

(2) Heal the sick; and as you heal them, say, ‘The Kingdom of God is very near you now.’

10 “But if a town refuses you, go out into its streets and say, 11 ‘We wipe the dust of your town from our feet as a public announcement of your doom. Never forget how close you were to the Kingdom of God!’ 12 Even wicked Sodom will be better off than such a city on the Judgment Day. 13 What horrors await you, you cities of Chorazin and Bethsaida! For if the miracles I did for you had been done in the cities of Tyre and Sidon,[b] their people would have sat in deep repentance long ago, clothed in sackcloth and throwing ashes on their heads to show their remorse. 14 Yes, Tyre and Sidon will receive less punishment on the Judgment Day than you. 15 And you people of Capernaum, what shall I say about you? Will you be exalted to heaven? No, you shall be brought down to hell.”

16 Then he said to the disciples, “Those who welcome you are welcoming me. And those who reject you are rejecting me. And those who reject me are rejecting God who sent me.”

17 When the seventy disciples returned, they joyfully reported to him, “Even the demons obey us when we use your name.”

18 “Yes,” he told them, “I saw Satan falling from heaven as a flash of lightning! 19 And I have given you authority over all the power of the Enemy, and to walk among serpents and scorpions and to crush them. Nothing shall injure you! 20 However, the important thing is not that demons obey you, but that your names are registered as citizens of heaven.”

21 Then he was filled with the joy of the Holy Spirit and said, “I praise you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, for hiding these things from the intellectuals and worldly wise and for revealing them to those who are as trusting as little children.[c] Yes, thank you, Father, for that is the way you wanted it. 22 I am the Agent of my Father in everything; and no one really knows the Son except the Father, and no one really knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”

23 Then, turning to the twelve disciples, he said quietly, “How privileged you are to see what you have seen. 24 Many a prophet and king of old has longed for these days, to see and hear what you have seen and heard!”

25 One day an expert on Moses’ laws came to test Jesus’ orthodoxy by asking him this question: “Teacher, what does a man need to do to live forever in heaven?”

26 Jesus replied, “What does Moses’ law say about it?”

27 “It says,” he replied, “that you must love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind. And you must love your neighbor just as much as you love yourself.”

28 “Right!” Jesus told him. “Do this and you shall live!”

29 The man wanted to justify his lack of love for some kinds of people,[d] so he asked, “Which neighbors?”

30 Jesus replied with an illustration: “A Jew going on a trip from Jerusalem to Jericho was attacked by bandits. They stripped him of his clothes and money, and beat him up and left him lying half dead beside the road.

31 “By chance a Jewish priest came along; and when he saw the man lying there, he crossed to the other side of the road and passed him by. 32 A Jewish Temple-assistant[e] walked over and looked at him lying there, but then went on.

33 “But a despised Samaritan[f] came along, and when he saw him, he felt deep pity. 34 Kneeling beside him the Samaritan soothed his wounds with medicine and bandaged them. Then he put the man on his donkey and walked along beside him till they came to an inn, where he nursed him through the night.[g] 35 The next day he handed the innkeeper two twenty-dollar bills[h] and told him to take care of the man. ‘If his bill runs higher than that,’ he said, ‘I’ll pay the difference the next time I am here.’

36 “Now which of these three would you say was a neighbor to the bandits’ victim?”

37 The man replied, “The one who showed him some pity.”

Then Jesus said, “Yes, now go and do the same.”

38 As Jesus and the disciples continued on their way to Jerusalem[i] they came to a village where a woman named Martha welcomed them into her home. 39 Her sister Mary sat on the floor, listening to Jesus as he talked.

40 But Martha was the jittery type and was worrying over the big dinner she was preparing.

She came to Jesus and said, “Sir, doesn’t it seem unfair to you that my sister just sits here while I do all the work? Tell her to come and help me.”

41 But the Lord said to her, “Martha, dear friend,[j] you are so upset over all these details! 42 There is really only one thing worth being concerned about. Mary has discovered it—and I won’t take it away from her!”
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 9:30am On Dec 10, 2019
Hebrews 11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 9:35am On Dec 10, 2019
1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 10:02am On Dec 10, 2019
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by Aaronsrod: 11:30am On Dec 10, 2019
My brother, you are clearly very stressed, depressed, angry, anxious and confused.

In your present state, no man would want to fight you. No woman would want to fokkk you.

Take yourself in hand and find relief before you seriously harm yourself or another human being.
Re: Masturbation Is Sin by ochibuogwu5: 11:48am On Dec 10, 2019
Ecclesiastes 11:8 But if a man live many years, and rejoice in them all; yet let him remember the days of darkness; for they shall be many. All that cometh is vanity.

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