justcool:

@thehomer,

The title of this thread is deceiving. You should have named this thread, "A History of man's perception of God" not "A History of God".

Thanks

Sweetnecta:

@the poser; suddenly your guy, the narrator lump Islam with his difficulty with the Bible.

this is strange, considering that Islam declares its uniqueness from both Judaism and Christianity, and we never say that our God is the Author of the Bible, a book sprinkled with confusion and contradictions.

Have you ever examined the Quran and see that there is no similarity between it and the Bible?

I understand; you guys dont read arabic, and the christian arabs will rather hang their hope on a man who was unable to know everything, rather than follow guidance from a man [as] from them telling them to turn to the God that is always existing.


Islam does not give an indication that the earth begins just the other day, as the Bible wrongly said, if your narrator is rightly quoting from it.

thehomer:

A pretty engaging video on the monotheistic God of Judaism and Christianity and by extension, Islam. With such knowledge, the reasons why this God was so different in the New Testament and many passages in the Old Testament become clear.

Here's a link to the video.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlnnWbkMlbg?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0[/flash]

seyibrown:

. . . . and who are 'J', 'E' and 'P'?

Purist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis

Purist:

Quite revealing indeed. As someone said on youtube. . . "this explains the multiple personality disorder that God has in the bible. He acts like different people, because he was different people."

TCD:

Pls give me a link to the video page on Youtube or better the Title of the video so I can search it out. I'm on mobile and can't see embeded videos. Thanks

H$LBroker:

God is good, he created everything including you

Sweetnecta:

@TheHomer: « #4 on: Today at 07:19:11 AM »Since Christian God is in Triune, Allah will not be the same as the Christian God. The answer is no.

Of course Jesus son of Mary [as] and Muhammad [as] are Messengers and Prophets of Allah, the non-Triune Deity Who is One Lord God The Creator.

Sweetnecta:

You thehomer dont believe God exist anyway. Maybe I am wrong in this assumption.

Sweetnecta:

Karen Armstrong in her quest recently believed there is God. You need to get her views on Islam. She is not a radical rejector like your ilk. Her problem emanated from her being 17 year old girl going into the convent, and probably in less than 7 years later based on the raging femininity in her discovered that she needed a man.

Sweetnecta:

I saw her interview with Texan Moyers on PBS, yesterday along with others in the past including NPRs. At best, like most orientalist experts, she mixed falsehood with truth.

Sweetnecta:

Islam stands alone. We are not part of the derivitive[s] of neither Judaism, which she spoke about in what you posted, nor Christianity that is obviously a form of Judaism.

thehomer:

I disagree with the claim of deception. The video was about the origins of the Christian and Jewish God and by extension, the Muslim God. I mentioned this in the body. If it were about say the Pantheistic God, then it would have been misleading.

Sweetnecta:

@the poser; suddenly your guy, the narrator lump Islam with his difficulty with the Bible.

Sweetnecta:

@TheHomer: « #15 on: Yesterday at 08:56:46 PM »It is your lack of belief that will engineer your thought and conscience to the extend that you can ignorantly believe that 1 Complete God has to be formulated from axiom of ancient multiple gods or god.

Sweetnecta:

New information for you. I am certain that if you didnt know that before, it is now an information you cant deny. Some day, you will know that you and your ilk did not come out of an ape. There is A Creator Who actually created you that you come out of your momma's tommie as a modern man. He created Adam completely matured,ready to be a father of babies. This is a testament to the Power of our Creator.

Sweetnecta:

I have known about her for over a decade. She was part of many religious documentary miniseries. Most people will have a problem in one area, but broad stroke the whole mansion with the same paint. I remember a christian just this past week saying to me that because the muslims wear long robes, he thinks they are no educated, while one of the Iranian Ayatollah's has a Ph. D. in Classical German Philosophy, something former President George Bush could never have been able to acquire.

Sweetnecta:

You almost made sense with your temper tantrum until you added the myths. Again, it shows your poor judgment of reality. Shared personality is Odumegu Ojukwu to Nigeria. No where was he the head of state of Nigeria, but Biafra. See what I mean? Illusion and reality are two different things. You and Karen are in some strata of illusion. Thank God, you are both on earth, even then. The Mercy of God extends and covers all.

vedaxcool:

Who could have stated the fact the way it is? How can any sensible or rational person without proof of any kind just throw caution to the wind and merge Islam with the theories of Judaism and Christianity?

Sweetnecta, one thing I know of this hommer guy is his over Ignorance when it comes to Islam.

vedaxcool:

Going thru the Documentary we come to the conclusion that the Jews/Hebrews never had any god until they mixed up with other people, as he asserted with Elohim, Yaweh, as being derivatives of gods from other Lands, the Question emerges how is it possible for an entire race not to have a god of their own? One thing the author of the entire bogus nonsense failed to note is the fact that even if we were to agree with his notion, then he must be able to provide the god the Isrealites worshipped before the advent of JEDP or whatever that theory is.

Now on Islam, the author including the Op(whose Ignorance of Islam is universally acknowledged) failed to Point how ideas of the OT and The NT came into Islam and thru what medium and at what time.
The first point the Ignorant herd of atheist do is to claim that Muhammad PBUH copied from the bible(Just like the Op said in the thread about what happens to people when the die) Now, wt no form of evidence, these herd of Ignoramus will claim we have proven that Muhammad PBUH copied the bible. Note this claim actually was propounded by Christians and Jews, which the atheist accept uncritically (being less logical than Agnostics we couldn't expect any less from them), it funny how this unthinking men will easily follow people they claim are irrational. Talk about intellectual laziness this dudes will come up tops. No where will this herd tell you that Muhammad could not read nor write talkless of copying from the bible. But trust people like homer they always prove things without proving things (Take it as a sort of their religion). No where will this 'herds' tell you that ALLAH in censures certain ideas the biblical Yawehetc. Like look at this verse:

Surah 50:38. We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in Six Periods, nor
did any sense of weariness touch Us.

This verse was a direct refutation to what the bible claim God did after he created the earth. Again th Qur'an gave strong criticism of the OT and NT, which it termed corrupted.

vedaxcool:

The documentary posed a strong Lie when it says there was no evidence of Monotheist religion before Judaism, maybe he never heard of Akhenatan:
Akhenaten (pronounced /ˌɑːkəˈnɑːtən/;[1] often also spelled Echnaton, Akhnaton, or rarely Ikhnaton; meaning Effective spirit of Aten) was known before the fifth year of his reign as Amenhotep IV (sometimes given its Greek form, Amenophis IV, and meaning Amun is Satisfied), a Pharaoh of the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt, ruled for 17 years and died in 1336 BC or 1334 BC. He is especially noted for abandoning traditional Egyptian polytheism and introducing worship centered on the Aten, which is sometimes described as monotheistic or henotheistic. An early inscription likens him to the sun as compared to stars, and later official language avoids calling the Aten a god, giving the solar deity a status above mere gods. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten

Zoroastrianism is a monotheistic religion which was once one of the largest religions on Earth. Zoroastrianism was founded in either the early part of the 12-10th century BCE or possibly as early as the 18th Century BCE. The religion is based on the teachings and philosophies of Zoroaster. The Zoroastrians (or "Parsis" are sometimes credited with being the first monotheists and having had significant influence in the formation of current, larger world religions. Today, some figures put the number of adherents to Zoroastrianism at up to 3.5 million,[43] ranging from regions in South Asia and spread across the globe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotheism

vedaxcool:

Islam
Main articles: Tawhid and Hanif

The holy book of Islam, a religion considered by some as the most monotheistic, the Qur'an asserts the existence of a single and absolute truth that transcends the world; a unique and indivisible being who is independent of the creation.[17] The indivisibility of Allah (God) implies the indivisibility of Allah's sovereignty which in turn leads to the conception of the universe as just, coherent and moral rather than as an existential and moral chaos (as in polytheism). Similarly the Qur'an rejects the binary modes of thinking such as the idea of a duality of God by arguing that both good and evil generate from God's creative act and that evil forces have no power to create anything. Allah in Islam is a universal god rather than a local, tribal or parochial one; an absolute who integrates all affirmative values and brooks no evil.[18]

Tawhid constitutes the foremost article of the Muslim profession.[19] To attribute divinity to a created entity is the only unpardonable sin mentioned in the Qur'an.[18] Muslims believe that the entirety of the Islamic teaching rests on the principle of Tawhid (Oneness of God).[20]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotheism

On a final note the entire crap documentary of yours is all based on suppositions such as claiming the Isrealite started copying other people's god without even having one of their own, again it supposed that the Isrealite must copy other people's gods once they find themselves in any community different from theirs, Again it suppose that Islam must have some where some how copied the OT and NT, whose ideas are usually refuted and which I have show that Muhammad the founder of Islam could not read nor write, the burden of proof falls on you. etc, rather than hard core facts, the atheist commentator of the documentary showed my earlier assertion that atheist are hardly rational as they want us to think. To him he uncritically accepted the entire garbage because it suited his pre concieved idea about religion, in fact that seems to be the way of western thinking, they come up with an idea and find "evidence" that support that idea. We thought that atheist are supposed to deal with matters rationally, but like I have come to reliaze thay are simply below the peak of rationalism which leaves them always making claim by approximation/despiration. Hommer you need to start thinking instead of regurgitating what othes think.

thehomer:

The title of the clip is A History of God Part 1. It was made by the Youtube user Evid3nc3.

Krayola:

Just saw the whole video. Does a pretty good job of summarizing the first chapter or so. . . .But y'all should really read the book. That's like 1/10th of the whole story in the video.

Krayola:

haha. I have the book. Read it while in school. Pretty solid book. U guys should read it. But then again Y'll like to believe in magical stuff so it's probably not for u.

Sweetnecta:

@TheHomer; « #20 on: Today at 10:31:16 PM »apply the 'is more than coincidence can explain' creation and its Creator, a relationship you probably think does not exist or not in fullness of it as people like me proclaim it.

Karen's opinion, is just that. Her own opinion, quite different from the reality. Where ever you may be located on earth, there is something or somebody directly opposite you, whose feet or base will be directly pointing to yours. While neither of you fall away from the earth, yet the earth is moving in two intricate ways. The Holder of you in place is not you, not an unknown, but God Almighty Who has made all the forces acting on you and in you to be at equilibrium. Glory to Him.
It is a myth because you dont believe it. You want to see it am sure. A young child told her classmate once in response to the teacher who said God does not exist because you cant see Him, asking if anyone in the class had seen the brain of the teacher. On Youtube, a clear figure with wings in very brilliant light is recorded at it appears prostrated on the top of the Kaaba. Do Angels and Genie exist? You bet.

If you are truly a scientist, I wonder why you dont believe that there could be other beings, like aliens, which many call UFOs, and possible beings in other planets?